The first sign was the discoloration on the input shaft. Second clue is the new Improved Silent Engagement gear ratio. Some say you only ever hear ONE excessively brutal grinding/explody noise and the rest of the life of the transmission that gear ratio set is 100% silent. Never saps unnecessary parasitic engine horsepower or torque either, lmao. Seriously, if you have a fleeting interest, disoloration on the shaft whether biologically or metallurgically is always a sign something requires extra inspection. Also, dang, apparently them semi trucks will just emsmoothen a entire gear ratio, i guess dat trailer weight will do a proper number on enagaged gear teeth.
Yeah If you mean that cog edged looking drum sitting up against the housing wall then yeah I was wondering what it was for 'till you said. (2/Sep/2022-9:59pm🇦🇺EST)
One of my mechs forgot to put dope back in a 3 month old Fuller 8 after swapping the PTO for a new unit. Now we're swapping a reman for another reman. Dude is also on thin fucking ice.
Great content Ryan, who ever is editing these you are doing a fantastic job!! From 6 months ago to today, your content quality has increased 10 fold imo :)
@@truckingandfixing no it's not a good idea for you to upload any video. Your advice is should never be shared with anyone. You are a hack as a mechanic and give the rest of us a bad name.
Exactly. When he said "It's not a gear anymore" I kept looking at other gears trying to see what he was talking about, because I couldn't believe that that used to be a gear. Then it hit me. Yeah, talk about catastrophic failure.
I work at a diesel transmission shop and every once in a while i go inside the breakdown shop to see the older workers working, i see a bunch of crazy broken parts
If you find time I would love to see you explain how these work and show how you go through them and repair/ rebuild/ maintain them. I haven't found a video or article that explains how power goes through it with the range selector and the gear splitter.
hey man i’m a technical student and got done rebuilding a twin countershaft eaton a couple months ago. what could lead to this kind of failure? improper lubrication? driver error? thank you!
How does this happen? Must've had a 3' breaker bar on it just standing on it. In my experience Eaton Fuller are near indestructible 9,10,13,18 all fuckin bulletproof aside from having lost high range on a 10 speed in a 2000 Fl120. Shop said that specific model had a design flaw that had been rectified with new parts. Replaced & never another issue.
Rebuilt hundreds of those and surprisingly enough I would say a quarter of them I built look exactly like that it's funny some truck drivers just don't care until it won't go no more which really begs the question why is it always someone that doesn't own their truck has this happen funny people don't care when it's not their own shit
Looks like low fluid failure. Shaft is blued probably from a slipping out of adjustment clutch. Direct drive gears fail like than when the fluid level is low. Input bearing starves first. Could be wrong.
I've seen gears broke in half input shaft warpt and output shaft unexciting don't know how they did that and some gears melted together and to the casing. Don't think that transmission was rebuildable. At lease that rebuildable
So it came loose and over heated the input shaft because of the angle? These are normally very robust boxes. But i suppose they won't take that kind of thing.
does a check engine light tell you there's something wrong with the transmission? because i think i "grind" some gears going in from 5th to 2nd @ 70mph
Must have really been driven to the ground. You can really beat these transmissions. For 2 years straight I hardly ever used the clutch. And get pissed city driving a bunch. Literally hanging off the shifter grinding and forcing it into gear. No metal in the lube when it came time to check it. It was a 10 speed. They're tough.
Let me ask you buddy what is your opinion on super singles. My company originally had me in an older truck with a standard side by side tires and then last month they retired that truck and they ended up giving me a brand new one which is great but it's got the super singles on it. I don't really mind them and I haven't really noticed any big difference on the routes that I'm on but I just wanted to get your opinion on it.
Gotta 98ram2500( NV4500). It’s seen some farm abuse 🙄😬. 2nd owner of the truck. Since I gotten the truck If I take off in 2nd gear it’ll shake the remaining body panels off. Start in 1st it takes off just fine. Is it the transmission? Wouldn’t imagine it being in the clutch…
That's a either throw away transmission, or stuff all new parts in the case rebuild. I wouldn't trust any of those gears after that many metal chunks were floating around for God knows how long. The bearings are going to be shot too.
Probably hooked to a x15 cummins lol x15 and a 18 is the worst shifting pos ive ever drove and i think it’s mainly the overly computerized throttle pedal
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Me not ever seeing the inside of a transmission: “that don’t like too bad”
Ryan: “it’s a colossal failure”
Me: “Oop, nevermind”
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The first sign was the discoloration on the input shaft.
Second clue is the new Improved Silent Engagement gear ratio.
Some say you only ever hear ONE excessively brutal grinding/explody noise and the rest of the life of the transmission that gear ratio set is 100% silent. Never saps unnecessary parasitic engine horsepower or torque either, lmao.
Seriously, if you have a fleeting interest, disoloration on the shaft whether biologically or metallurgically is always a sign something requires extra inspection.
Also, dang, apparently them semi trucks will just emsmoothen a entire gear ratio, i guess dat trailer weight will do a proper number on enagaged gear teeth.
Holy crap it took a double take to realize that once was a gear!!!!
Yeah same here. Thats hard to do
Def just looks like a bearing or something
Yeah If you mean that cog edged looking drum sitting up against the housing wall then yeah I was wondering what it was for 'till you said.
(2/Sep/2022-9:59pm🇦🇺EST)
Seen that happen before on Eaton 10spd transmissions, usually ran low on fluid and you loose 5th/10th gear
That's 4/9 it's an overdrive!
One of my mechs forgot to put dope back in a 3 month old Fuller 8 after swapping the PTO for a new unit. Now we're swapping a reman for another reman. Dude is also on thin fucking ice.
That's what happened to me, stupid PTO had a leak and I didn't catch it now I'm running this shit on 4th and 9th gear lol
It didn't fail. It RE-IDENTIFIED itself as a wheel hub. LOL
Haha so funny
Keep dropping shorts do 3 a day if possible for 2 months flood with content ryan
Good idea! 😀
Great content Ryan, who ever is editing these you are doing a fantastic job!! From 6 months ago to today, your content quality has increased 10 fold imo :)
@@truckingandfixing no it's not a good idea for you to upload any video. Your advice is should never be shared with anyone. You are a hack as a mechanic and give the rest of us a bad name.
@@nitemare18 what??
These shorts been very informative and fun to watch. Keep em coming
Thanks 🙏
My truck transmission after i finished CDL school 😂😂😂
Grind em till you find em or make your own in the end.
@@bryanmartinez6600 👍🚍👍
It looks like the pilot bearing seized
99% !
Gotta love the torque of a diesel
Hell yeah . Helped my old buddy pull n rebuild them transmissions n screws . Lotta old memories . Good stuff.
Gives a new meaning to "grinding gears" ⚙️ ⚙️ ⚙️ ⚙️ 🤣🤣🤣
When I notice the shadow of teeth left and that it was supposed to look like the other gears I just went WHOAAAAAAA
Exactly. When he said "It's not a gear anymore" I kept looking at other gears trying to see what he was talking about, because I couldn't believe that that used to be a gear. Then it hit me. Yeah, talk about catastrophic failure.
Why is more important to me.
Sir your input gear is now an input drum.
I work at a diesel transmission shop and every once in a while i go inside the breakdown shop to see the older workers working, i see a bunch of crazy broken parts
Love the videos! Just curious what is the labor rate at your shop?
Here it is - www.foxtruckandtractor.com/our-rates
If you find time I would love to see you explain how these work and show how you go through them and repair/ rebuild/ maintain them.
I haven't found a video or article that explains how power goes through it with the range selector and the gear splitter.
There are a lot of free Eaton videos, service and repair manuals online.
Had an Eaton Edurant do the same a month ago lol.
That looks like say goodbye to your fingers heaven
If it was moving the gears yes!! But stationary no danger really..the gears are sharp tho and will cut up hands n arms easily...
Thank you sir for making your videos very educational 👍🏽👍🏽
29 year Eaton Rep. That is a low lube failure. 100% Good video.
No sir . I have seen this happened to trans that had full oil level inside. This failure is related to clutch and pilot bearing
The transmissions that you saw with oil in them that looked like this had oil added to them after the failure. This is 100% a low lube failure.
hey man i’m a technical student and got done rebuilding a twin countershaft eaton a couple months ago. what could lead to this kind of failure? improper lubrication? driver error? thank you!
You must lead a extremely exciting life .
What speed is that Eaton?... I'm subscribing by the way man i like stuff like this
Catastrophic failure
That's what's its called.
Why did it fail,
@@bigiecheese919 the gear sheared all its teeth. Your guess is as good as mine.
Overload. Lack of oil. Garbage fuckin parts?
More videos like this but more longer pls great job as always
Well they don’t call us gear jammers for nothin 🤣
Looks like an eatin transmission
Eaton, correct!
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Lmfao "and enjoy it "
Looks like there was not enough oil
How does this happen? Must've had a 3' breaker bar on it just standing on it. In my experience Eaton Fuller are near indestructible 9,10,13,18 all fuckin bulletproof aside from having lost high range on a 10 speed in a 2000 Fl120. Shop said that specific model had a design flaw that had been rectified with new parts. Replaced & never another issue.
bruh the gear forgot to go to the dentist
Rebuilt hundreds of those and surprisingly enough I would say a quarter of them I built look exactly like that it's funny some truck drivers just don't care until it won't go no more which really begs the question why is it always someone that doesn't own their truck has this happen funny people don't care when it's not their own shit
My god who drove that truck a green horn hulk haha.
Boy I bet that spin up sounded great, like a sound barrier breakin zipper.
It identifies as a Bridgeport mill.
Looks like low fluid failure. Shaft is blued probably from a slipping out of adjustment clutch. Direct drive gears fail like than when the fluid level is low. Input bearing starves first. Could be wrong.
Its a FRO series trans run low on oil and burn it up!! I get them to rebuild all the time every month!!
Seen those before
you just had more free neutrals hahaha
Grind it til you find it
Yeah work on them all the time for about 30 years and it's the main drive gear thats a gummer I call it off the input shaft
I believe this may have been the alternator that did this
Do you have a 13 spd for sale.
That almost looks machined on purpose! Wow!
So can this transmission be saved? Rebuilt? How much does it cost?
time for a recon
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seen this a lot with no or low oil
I've seen gears broke in half input shaft warpt and output shaft unexciting don't know how they did that and some gears melted together and to the casing. Don't think that transmission was rebuildable. At lease that rebuildable
So it came loose and over heated the input shaft because of the angle?
These are normally very robust boxes. But i suppose they won't take that kind of thing.
Got run dry on oil simple diagnosis
Damn son
does a check engine light tell you there's something wrong with the transmission? because i think i "grind" some gears going in from 5th to 2nd @ 70mph
Is it salvageable? Can it be repaired?
Automatic or manual?
Manual
Low lube. Rebuilt hundreds of those.
Seems like pilot bearing failed caused excessive play on the main drive gear and took out the trans/
So what ultimately failed to cause this?
Low fluid or very high hp truck running mountains without slowing down.
Lack of lube failure
Must have really been driven to the ground. You can really beat these transmissions. For 2 years straight I hardly ever used the clutch. And get pissed city driving a bunch. Literally hanging off the shifter grinding and forcing it into gear. No metal in the lube when it came time to check it. It was a 10 speed. They're tough.
Wow 😮
Can ya have it fixed by tomorrow?? I'm not in a hurry or anything! 😂
No problem pop another one in. One day job. Time is money.
Any idea what caused the failure?
Here 👉🏻Eaton transmission fell out of engine #shorts
ruclips.net/user/shortsNGo3V2hHXbk?feature=share
Trans hangs up in 5 gear 2006 379 Peterbilt what could cause this
Someone forgot to check their gear oil
Mr george, how much you pay the new guy?😂
So what caused it???
Cost to rebuild?
I work for UPS and I can tell you I get boxes very often that are from Eaton that have 150 pound clutches in them. Not very fun to move around
Let me ask you buddy what is your opinion on super singles. My company originally had me in an older truck with a standard side by side tires and then last month they retired that truck and they ended up giving me a brand new one which is great but it's got the super singles on it. I don't really mind them and I haven't really noticed any big difference on the routes that I'm on but I just wanted to get your opinion on it.
Why do my Rpm’s rev up going into 6-8 gear with little loss of power? Can it be transmission?
What would you say caused that failure? Would that be caused by? poor timing on the shift or pre selecting?
Eaton transmission fell out of engine #shorts
ruclips.net/user/shortsNGo3V2hHXbk?feature=share
If you can’t find it… grind it….
I want to know what caused it to fail
But where are the synchros?
Gotta 98ram2500( NV4500). It’s seen some farm abuse 🙄😬. 2nd owner of the truck. Since I gotten the truck If I take off in 2nd gear it’ll shake the remaining body panels off. Start in 1st it takes off just fine. Is it the transmission? Wouldn’t imagine it being in the clutch…
How's this happen ?
Here is a video explained it 👉🏻Eaton transmission fell out of engine #shorts
ruclips.net/user/shortsNGo3V2hHXbk?feature=share
Do you rebuild them or send them out?
How much did it cost the customer to get it fixed?
So was it towed with driveshaft still in. Or ran low or out of oil?
Wait, input shaft cooked. Not towed.
If you cant find em grind em.
Looks like my rc aluminium gear ⚙️ after a flogging
Probably only took minutes to wipe that gear….
I wonder what that sounded like. When your gearbox starts machining itself.
Eaton FRO?
Looks like he ran it without any fluid, trans Temps were higher than the dogg.
It would be nice to know what led to this particular failure.
Eaton transmission fell out of engine #shorts
ruclips.net/user/shortsNGo3V2hHXbk?feature=share
Probably just age and wear and tear. Transmissions don't last forever.
Look like it ran low on oil
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Lack of oil when the transmission it got hot it transmits the heat through the input shaft and that's why it has the color blue
I thought these were designed to be float shifted? Someone's not doing their job right by rev matching the gears!
This looks expensive.
That's a either throw away transmission, or stuff all new parts in the case rebuild. I wouldn't trust any of those gears after that many metal chunks were floating around for God knows how long. The bearings are going to be shot too.
Talk about rounding off the gears for the next guy. Good grief. 😧
Aw, id call that self-destruction.
Yup call Weller and swap it out.
Yhea....Weller...good idea....with all the Chinese stuff they use, 6 months tops
@@truthbetold2914 I've never had a single issue with any of their transmissions or PTO'S couldn't tell ya how many I've swapped out.
Probably hooked to a x15 cummins lol x15 and a 18 is the worst shifting pos ive ever drove and i think it’s mainly the overly computerized throttle pedal
Lack of oil