I do that to my Arabian gelding. If I want him in a certain spot that it behind him and there isnt a place for him to turn around. At first when I read the title I was like. "oh boy why not". He backs up very well to begin with so thats a relief lol. Wonderful video though. You are the first horse trainer that I actually care to watch. Your videos are (mostly) short and simple. All of the things I have fried with my gelding work wonders. Thank you
I noticed the horse just wanted to look behind him to see where he was backing. Warwick corrected him trying to look past Warwick, but the horse smartly worked it out and had a good look from his off side, just to see where he was going to be backed. I think it’s important to allow a horse a chance to see where they are being backed to give them more confidence.
Fantastic! I never thought about it that way. In fact, I had thought you might back a horse to get it thinking collection, so that you would have it thinking in that format when you walked forward.
I used to think backing/collection, too. It sort of made sense. But I think my most valued insight in all of Warwick's work is the transition/collection connection. I'm not a dressage rider but my horse goes on the forehand and the transition work has helped a lot.
I wonder how wide that trailer is. My mare is pretty wide, not as wide as this horse. I have difficulty putting her behind the divider, not because she's the problem, it's just her size and I have to squeeze the divider on her. I haven't attempted to even close it, because If I were a horse, I'd hate to barely have any room to wiggle. I have a 3 horse slant load.
I find the American trailers strange because of the lack of a ramp floats always have a ramp and that makes loading safer I’m the one who gets nervous traveling my horses I’ve seen too many accidents with floats and traffic that I have to be very careful that I don’t pass my nerves on to my horse and make him worried my current horse both loads and travels well so we must be doing some thing right together he’s not a nervous or worried horse in general morechecis layback and leans towards being lazy more than anything else being out of control would involve more energy than he cares to expend so he keeps himself very controlled if not in a actual coma he need a lot of sleep and gets it where he can even on the job but that doesn’t concern me too much as I find winding a horse up is way easier than cooling him down and getting a horse really desensitised to things around him can be very time consuming and I have other stuff I’d rather do with my time with him like improving my riding and teaching him new stuff which is always fun
I know you give horses credit for being very smart, so I'm wondering if you think horses (some horses at least) are capable of applying this squat/not squat behavior situationally. Meaning, squatting and bending hocks under saddle, if that's what you want, but not unsaddled in a trailer. I totally get what you're explaining here, and how you get the horse to eventually stay standing up in the back when you back him up in the trailer. My horse squats just like this, and it worries me for the same reason (a fairly steep drop down out of the trailer) but I don't have the sort of trailer I can practice in, or I would. Excellent point tho.
@@WarwickSchiller It's a very short two horse straight load with a manger in front, tack compartment below the manger. The divider pivots at the front so I can swing the divider to the side in back and stand next to my horse, but there is only room for him to take a couple actual steps back before he hits the back edge of the trailer floor. It's a perfectly good trailer but just not the working room you have in the video.
Any videos on backing out of a straight load where they want to turn around but can’t and it makes them scared? My horse has a great back and will back up for days. Have tried to go a little up the ramp each time and then back out but when she gets all the way in she gets scared and forced her chest into the pad and won’t back out. It’s dangerous for her to turn around. Please help!
I also lift the horses tail bc worried horses like this also jam the tail down, so I do a lot of unjamming the dock of the tail ,in and out of the float
Non horse-person here, but I enjoy these videos. Could somebody explain why it usually a good thing for a horse to bend their back when they back up? It looks pretty strange.
NatashaNogoodnik there are many reasons, but one of the main reasons starts with safety and the physical limitations of horses, they can't see behind themselves so backing up is scarey. Horses want to go forward.When you block a horses forward motion, they tend to go upward (rearing). If they rear up too quickly at a stand still, they tend to flip over. When a horses head is down they have troubles rearing up. That is why it is very important to keep a horses head down when training them to back up, you don't ever want a horse to get the idea to go up. When their head is up, some of them think 'up' a lot easier then back-up. Horses also tend to carry most of their body weight on their front legs, the hind legs are used for propulsion. When a horse backs up they need to learn to use their hind legs to carry their weight and the rider's weight so they can preform faster back up maneuvers. They become 'lighter' on their front legs so they can balance themselves on their back legs. If a horse is trained correctly, they will naturally round their back as a result of 'dumping' the weight on their hind quarters. Their heads also come down further naturally. This is all about the horse being balanced and ready (collected) to move in any direction quickly. The rounded back is easier to spot in sports like reigning and cutting. It is more subtle in pleasure riding or dressage, where the horse moves slower. Like a football player being defensive, he squats down on the ball of his foot. If a defensive football player were to try blocking the offense by standing up like a runner, the offense can knock him over very easily as his muscles are not ready to absorb weight in an attempt to balance, they are in a position to push him forward. Just like a football player, if the horse wants to remain agile and balanced he needs to prepare himself for the job by staying round to keep his center of gravity low and his muscles loaded like a spring.
People nowadays are ridiculously critical about every darn thing, even the most simplistic of topics. As you pointed out, if people would watch, digest, and then comment things would most likely be better. However, most people are lazy and just want to make a split second assumption on a topic they don't fully understand. And, for those of you who are offended by my analysis of your behavior let me point out that if you actually expanded your mind outside of yourself and paid attention to what is happening around you, not only would you be engaging your mind, you would also stop obsessing on trivial details that really are not going to enrich your life and actually pay attention to what Warwick is trying to teach you. Learning, isn't that why you are here?
My three year old cob has only just started to bite and went for my face twice because she wanted her feed and she also bit my mum when she was picking out her feet. Are there any suggestions to help stop this.
jerroe presentations Smack her on the nose when she tries to bite. I know that sounds cruel, but horse have a super high pain tolerance, and you don't have to wind right up, just do it hard enough to get her attention and let her know you don't like that. The colt I've been training tried to bite me the first day I worked with him. He got a smack and a loud "hey!" and hasn't done it since (it's been five years). Again, I know this sounds cruel, but it isn't. Horses bite and kick each other all the time for many reasons, a smack on the nose isn't going to hurt her, it will just get her attention
Lunge him, preferably right as you catch him before he bites. His neck will straighten out and he'll bare his teeth which is how you know he was going in for the bite. You step forward and make him run circles round you to show that you're in charge. Hitting him in the face will only make him head shy and fearful. I have never had experience of it fixing the issue. Horses are incredibly sensitive to touch and pain, they are good at hiding and ignore pain though. If you hit a horse in the face he will never forget.
I like your titles. Hell, kinda gets you to think like a horse. This one is like the rat video. The horse is learning where the edge of the trailer is. Or in this case where the edge isn't. He thinks he's about to step off with every step.
But that is exactly, what he is talking about. If you don`t see grooming as a social interaction but a cleaning job, then you very easily teach the horse to move your feet without even realising it. And that creates big problems when riding!
Is the reining work healthy and positive for the horses bodies -it seems violent aggressive and more for the humans pleasure in using the horse like a stock car or cool sports car -just my view on reining-and 3 day eventing and dressage-poor horses --animals in general in the world are so abused and used.Debra
Reining is not just a show sport- reining is used in herding cattle (or other animals, I suppose, or each other in the wild). A horse must be quick and agile to help the rider maneuver around in tight places to get the cattle back in line to where it is supposed to be heading. Yes, some horses perhaps never see a cow in their life and live for the show arena, BUT if they HAD to herd cattle, then they'd certainly be able to do so. The behaviors and movements demonstrated at shows are nothing more than natural behaviors a horse would do in the wild with each other or other animals or while traveling except set to cues that cause the horse to exhibit that behavior. Horseback riding is a lot like gymnastics but for horses instead of people. None of the things they do is something they CAN'T physically do, just something that has been enhanced and worked on to improve it. Gymnasts are naturally more balanced and flexible and agile than the average human, so too the horses that are ridden are more balanced, flexible, and agile than untrained horses. Yes, you might see an untrained horse do something a trained horse does, and perhaps even better than the trained horse, but the same too with humans- some humans can do things more naturally than other humans.
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Thank you, Warwick. You gave me the tools to help me teach my horse to back out of the trailer without worrying about it. Easily done now.
I really love you, real horseman very appreciated!
That explains the slow block like backing up of most horses you see at rodeos and such. Great video thanks
I do that to my Arabian gelding. If I want him in a certain spot that it behind him and there isnt a place for him to turn around. At first when I read the title I was like. "oh boy why not". He backs up very well to begin with so thats a relief lol.
Wonderful video though. You are the first horse trainer that I actually care to watch. Your videos are (mostly) short and simple. All of the things I have fried with my gelding work wonders. Thank you
I noticed the horse just wanted to look behind him to see where he was backing. Warwick corrected him trying to look past Warwick, but the horse smartly worked it out and had a good look from his off side, just to see where he was going to be backed. I think it’s important to allow a horse a chance to see where they are being backed to give them more confidence.
Another lightbulb moment. Thank you, Warwick.
I have learned so much from him!
That’s amazing, this technique must help so many people
This guy is good. Thank u for the videos
Thanks! I never thought of it.
Thank you. Very useful.
Fantastic! I never thought about it that way. In fact, I had thought you might back a horse to get it thinking collection, so that you would have it thinking in that format when you walked forward.
I used to think backing/collection, too. It sort of made sense. But I think my most valued insight in all of Warwick's work is the transition/collection connection. I'm not a dressage rider but my horse goes on the forehand and the transition work has helped a lot.
I wonder how wide that trailer is. My mare is pretty wide, not as wide as this horse. I have difficulty putting her behind the divider, not because she's the problem, it's just her size and I have to squeeze the divider on her. I haven't attempted to even close it, because If I were a horse, I'd hate to barely have any room to wiggle. I have a 3 horse slant load.
backing a horse up is important when you are training, a guide horse as a for a blind person that is a miniature horse to be a guide animal.
I like this concept
Brilliant!
I find the American trailers strange because of the lack of a ramp floats always have a ramp and that makes loading safer I’m the one who gets nervous traveling my horses I’ve seen too many accidents with floats and traffic that I have to be very careful that I don’t pass my nerves on to my horse and make him worried my current horse both loads and travels well so we must be doing some thing right together he’s not a nervous or worried horse in general morechecis layback and leans towards being lazy more than anything else being out of control would involve more energy than he cares to expend so he keeps himself very controlled if not in a actual coma he need a lot of sleep and gets it where he can even on the job but that doesn’t concern me too much as I find winding a horse up is way easier than cooling him down and getting a horse really desensitised to things around him can be very time consuming and I have other stuff I’d rather do with my time with him like improving my riding and teaching him new stuff which is always fun
I know you give horses credit for being very smart, so I'm wondering if you think horses (some horses at least) are capable of applying this squat/not squat behavior situationally. Meaning, squatting and bending hocks under saddle, if that's what you want, but not unsaddled in a trailer. I totally get what you're explaining here, and how you get the horse to eventually stay standing up in the back when you back him up in the trailer. My horse squats just like this, and it worries me for the same reason (a fairly steep drop down out of the trailer) but I don't have the sort of trailer I can practice in, or I would. Excellent point tho.
How do you not have a trailer you can practice in, if it's long enough to get in, its long enough to step them forward
@@WarwickSchiller It's a very short two horse straight load with a manger in front, tack compartment below the manger. The divider pivots at the front so I can swing the divider to the side in back and stand next to my horse, but there is only room for him to take a couple actual steps back before he hits the back edge of the trailer floor. It's a perfectly good trailer but just not the working room you have in the video.
@@epona9166 The one I show in the video is a six horse. All you have to do is one step abck, one step forward, until he no longer squats.
Any videos on backing out of a straight load where they want to turn around but can’t and it makes them scared? My horse has a great back and will back up for days. Have tried to go a little up the ramp each time and then back out but when she gets all the way in she gets scared and forced her chest into the pad and won’t back out. It’s dangerous for her to turn around. Please help!
I thot is was a catchy title.
The title for this one is good too.
I also lift the horses tail bc worried horses like this also jam the tail down, so I do a lot of unjamming the dock of the tail ,in and out of the float
Water, mud and sand is the best care for the fur! :)
Non horse-person here, but I enjoy these videos. Could somebody explain why it usually a good thing for a horse to bend their back when they back up? It looks pretty strange.
NatashaNogoodnik there are many reasons, but one of the main reasons starts with safety and the physical limitations of horses, they can't see behind themselves so backing up is scarey. Horses want to go forward.When you block a horses forward motion, they tend to go upward (rearing). If they rear up too quickly at a stand still, they tend to flip over. When a horses head is down they have troubles rearing up. That is why it is very important to keep a horses head down when training them to back up, you don't ever want a horse to get the idea to go up. When their head is up, some of them think 'up' a lot easier then back-up.
Horses also tend to carry most of their body weight on their front legs, the hind legs are used for propulsion. When a horse backs up they need to learn to use their hind legs to carry their weight and the rider's weight so they can preform faster back up maneuvers. They become 'lighter' on their front legs so they can balance themselves on their back legs.
If a horse is trained correctly, they will naturally round their back as a result of 'dumping' the weight on their hind quarters. Their heads also come down further naturally.
This is all about the horse being balanced and ready (collected) to move in any direction quickly. The rounded back is easier to spot in sports like reigning and cutting. It is more subtle in pleasure riding or dressage, where the horse moves slower.
Like a football player being defensive, he squats down on the ball of his foot. If a defensive football player were to try blocking the offense by standing up like a runner, the offense can knock him over very easily as his muscles are not ready to absorb weight in an attempt to balance, they are in a position to push him forward. Just like a football player, if the horse wants to remain agile and balanced he needs to prepare himself for the job by staying round to keep his center of gravity low and his muscles loaded like a spring.
ckdesign Thank you for your clear explanation. Makes sense. Now, I'll have to watch the video again with that in mind.
People nowadays are ridiculously critical about every darn thing, even the most simplistic of topics. As you pointed out, if people would watch, digest, and then comment things would most likely be better. However, most people are lazy and just want to make a split second assumption on a topic they don't fully understand. And, for those of you who are offended by my analysis of your behavior let me point out that if you actually expanded your mind outside of yourself and paid attention to what is happening around you, not only would you be engaging your mind, you would also stop obsessing on trivial details that really are not going to enrich your life and actually pay attention to what Warwick is trying to teach you. Learning, isn't that why you are here?
My three year old cob has only just started to bite and went for my face twice because she wanted her feed and she also bit my mum when she was picking out her feet. Are there any suggestions to help stop this.
jerroe presentations Smack her on the nose when she tries to bite. I know that sounds cruel, but horse have a super high pain tolerance, and you don't have to wind right up, just do it hard enough to get her attention and let her know you don't like that. The colt I've been training tried to bite me the first day I worked with him. He got a smack and a loud "hey!" and hasn't done it since (it's been five years). Again, I know this sounds cruel, but it isn't. Horses bite and kick each other all the time for many reasons, a smack on the nose isn't going to hurt her, it will just get her attention
Lunge him, preferably right as you catch him before he bites. His neck will straighten out and he'll bare his teeth which is how you know he was going in for the bite. You step forward and make him run circles round you to show that you're in charge. Hitting him in the face will only make him head shy and fearful. I have never had experience of it fixing the issue. Horses are incredibly sensitive to touch and pain, they are good at hiding and ignore pain though. If you hit a horse in the face he will never forget.
fine, but what do you do to let the poor guy know when he's at the end and really needs to be careful of the step down? It's going to trick him.
They just feel it with their feet.
I like your titles. Hell, kinda gets you to think like a horse. This one is like the rat video. The horse is learning where the edge of the trailer is. Or in this case where the edge isn't. He thinks he's about to step off with every step.
Some people see grooming as a training stage on the way to riding a horse where as the two are not conected
But that is exactly, what he is talking about. If you don`t see grooming as a social interaction but a cleaning job, then you very easily teach the horse to move your feet without even realising it. And that creates big problems when riding!
All horses are different
not get off
Is the reining work healthy and positive for the horses bodies -it seems violent aggressive and more for the humans pleasure in using the horse like a stock car or cool sports car -just my view on reining-and 3 day eventing and dressage-poor horses --animals in general in the world are so abused and used.Debra
Reining is not just a show sport- reining is used in herding cattle (or other animals, I suppose, or each other in the wild). A horse must be quick and agile to help the rider maneuver around in tight places to get the cattle back in line to where it is supposed to be heading. Yes, some horses perhaps never see a cow in their life and live for the show arena, BUT if they HAD to herd cattle, then they'd certainly be able to do so. The behaviors and movements demonstrated at shows are nothing more than natural behaviors a horse would do in the wild with each other or other animals or while traveling except set to cues that cause the horse to exhibit that behavior.
Horseback riding is a lot like gymnastics but for horses instead of people. None of the things they do is something they CAN'T physically do, just something that has been enhanced and worked on to improve it. Gymnasts are naturally more balanced and flexible and agile than the average human, so too the horses that are ridden are more balanced, flexible, and agile than untrained horses. Yes, you might see an untrained horse do something a trained horse does, and perhaps even better than the trained horse, but the same too with humans- some humans can do things more naturally than other humans.
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