How u figure the Yorktown class was 100 feet longer. The saipan class light carriers were less than 30 feet shorter than soryu and same weight. So no not Yorktown size at all
@ph89787 your second response has exactly zero to do with what u originally stated. Soryu is not yorktown size like you said it is over 100 feet smaller it is more saipan class light carriers are almost same lenght and weight NOT THE YORKTOWN
Fun fact, I actually have an artifact from the USS Raleigh. It’s a baseball medal awarded to the ships crew during a navy tournament in 1939. I can’t recall if she lost any crew during the attack, but I never knew it was Sōryū’s torpedo bomber that did the damage. I also have a silver sugar dish given as a gift during the launch ceremony of Hiryū, so my goal is to eventually have an artifact from every member of the Kido Butai. Cheers for covering such an often overlooked carrier of the IJN!
The cross section illustrated from 6:06 to 6:34 appears to be for the Hiryu because the "funnels" go to starboard, while the island is on the port side.
@JoshuaTootell of course, I don't doubt the wiseness of their secretiveness. I just lament that we, 80 years later, lack the pleasure of those documents.
@@JoshuaTootell true but also at that point it is un conditional surrender, it was just a fluke that they even got to keep their emperor. Just think that it was out of pompous narcissism that the official thought they had any military secrets worth destroying
It should be mentioned that in spite of the contorted path SORYU took in its design phase she turned out to be very effective as an offensive platform and the Japanese were very pleased at the result. She became the archetype for the later Japanese purpose-built fleet carriers including SHOKAKU and ZUIKAKU, which were enlargements on the SORYU design with more robust protection. Her sort-of-sister HIRYU that followed her had improvements on SORYU's design but the port side island located near amidships caused a number of problems for her flight operations compared to the earlier SORYU.
@@valhallasrevenge perhaps I was clear . I want to see more on countries that have small fleets. Poland, Greece and others. Every Chanel does the same navy's and even the same ships, it very old . I should've been a bit more clear on this , but I tried to post my comment without my glasses. My eyes aren't as good as they use to be.
@@waynedavis7245 i would like that as well. but looking at this from the point of view of the person making the video. the language barrier can very easily become a problem. i would personally love some videos on the Greek navy, since i have been to the country a few times. but if the only source for what the ship did is in either Greek, Turkish or Italian. without going to the navy archive and manually translating the documents, there isn't much that can be done. if said ship already has had the documents translated, that's another matter. but i'm not sure how often that happened.
@valhallasrevenge I agree with you. The language barrier probably is a large problem. I find for myself some of the smaller fleets very interesting. We just don't get a lot of content on them. Maybe we will in the future. Thanks for your reply. Stay safe out there.
Lexington and Saratoga both originally had 8 X 8 inch guns in 4 twin turrets. 2 before the Island and stack and 2 behind. So the carrier and cruiser combination was alive and well in America. The C in CV comes from C for cruiser and V for fixed wing aircraft.
Too many people assume that Adm. Ngumo withdrew from Pearl Harbor for tactical considerations, such as low fuel or fear of US submarines. That doesn't fit the pattern. From Pearl Harbor, to Savo Island, to Samar island, the Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN) consistently withdrew when there was no further armed opposition. The Japanese Army followed a corrupted version of the code of Bushido which allowed atrocities such as the Rape of Nanking. The IJN, on the other hand, seems to have followed the original code, in which it was considered dishonorable to kill an unarmed opponent. Just my two cents worth on the subject.
We sure remembered to say hello at Midway......
Fantastic research and commentary.
Soryu has a Yorktown sized hull with Ranger level protection.
How u figure the Yorktown class was 100 feet longer. The saipan class light carriers were less than 30 feet shorter than soryu and same weight. So no not Yorktown size at all
The Yorktowns were bigger.
@ Soryu and Hiryu were a contemporary design to the Yorktowns.
@@ph89787
Yes, but smaller.
@ph89787 your second response has exactly zero to do with what u originally stated. Soryu is not yorktown size like you said it is over 100 feet smaller it is more saipan class light carriers are almost same lenght and weight NOT THE YORKTOWN
The carrier Kaga was hurt worse at Midway. Hit by 4 or 5 bombs.
Fun fact, I actually have an artifact from the USS Raleigh. It’s a baseball medal awarded to the ships crew during a navy tournament in 1939. I can’t recall if she lost any crew during the attack, but I never knew it was Sōryū’s torpedo bomber that did the damage.
I also have a silver sugar dish given as a gift during the launch ceremony of Hiryū, so my goal is to eventually have an artifact from every member of the Kido Butai. Cheers for covering such an often overlooked carrier of the IJN!
@@DragonShadowfire1 according to the USS Raleigh's Wikipedia page while she did have several sailors wounded during the attack, none were killed.
@@russelljohnson6267 cheers for the clarification! I remember that she did suffer casualties, but I couldn't remember if she lost any sailors/personal
@@DragonShadowfire1 no problem. I had to check since I wasn't sure myself.
I have seen several of your videos and have enjoyed them all. This one on Soryu was very informative. Thanks for doing splendid work on your videos.
The cross section illustrated from 6:06 to 6:34 appears to be for the Hiryu because the "funnels" go to starboard, while the island is on the port side.
Wouldn’t that depend on from witch end you were looking from?
Thank you for showing the eatly possibilities for _Soryu._ I've always found the various possibilities for Treaty-era carriers fascinating.
That picture of the Edsall with the huge splashes all around her always trips me out. Insane photo.
Great video. I always regret the Japanese were so secretive about its ships and have so few contemporary images of them.
So true like you gonna lose anyways, and it’s not like photos and blue prints are war crime worthy
Imagine giving away all your military secrets to the enemy...
@JoshuaTootell of course, I don't doubt the wiseness of their secretiveness. I just lament that we, 80 years later, lack the pleasure of those documents.
A LOT of records were destroyed by IJN between the surrender and occupation in 1945. Sad but understandable i suppose.
@@JoshuaTootell true but also at that point it is un conditional surrender, it was just a fluke that they even got to keep their emperor. Just think that it was out of pompous narcissism that the official thought they had any military secrets worth destroying
It should be mentioned that in spite of the contorted path SORYU took in its design phase she turned out to be very effective as an offensive platform and the Japanese were very pleased at the result. She became the archetype for the later Japanese purpose-built fleet carriers including SHOKAKU and ZUIKAKU, which were enlargements on the SORYU design with more robust protection. Her sort-of-sister HIRYU that followed her had improvements on SORYU's design but the port side island located near amidships caused a number of problems for her flight operations compared to the earlier SORYU.
Very interesting video. I really like the videos on the smaller navies.
Smaller?
@@largeman7243 5 bucks saying they are American
@@valhallasrevenge perhaps I was clear . I want to see more on countries that have small fleets. Poland, Greece and others. Every Chanel does the same navy's and even the same ships, it very old . I should've been a bit more clear on this , but I tried to post my comment without my glasses. My eyes aren't as good as they use to be.
@@waynedavis7245 i would like that as well. but looking at this from the point of view of the person making the video. the language barrier can very easily become a problem.
i would personally love some videos on the Greek navy, since i have been to the country a few times. but if the only source for what the ship did is in either Greek, Turkish or Italian. without going to the navy archive and manually translating the documents, there isn't much that can be done.
if said ship already has had the documents translated, that's another matter. but i'm not sure how often that happened.
@valhallasrevenge I agree with you. The language barrier probably is a large problem. I find for myself some of the smaller fleets very interesting. We just don't get a lot of content on them. Maybe we will in the future. Thanks for your reply. Stay safe out there.
I'm guessing being an AA gunner on the starboard side aft of the fennels was undesirable.
That’s why they get shielded AA guns
Great video
informative Her Aircraft certainly hammered Darwin and also I think WA
Very interesting topic plus size reminds me of Yorktown 😅 with a good history background.
once again a nice commentary.
Lexington and Saratoga both originally had 8 X 8 inch guns in 4 twin turrets. 2 before the Island and stack and 2 behind.
So the carrier and cruiser combination was alive and well in America. The C in CV comes from C for cruiser and V for fixed wing aircraft.
Heh - i was just reflecting the other day how Soryu sure seems like the 'also ran' in Midway lore.
Too many people assume that Adm. Ngumo withdrew from Pearl Harbor for tactical considerations, such as low fuel or fear of US submarines. That doesn't fit the pattern.
From Pearl Harbor, to Savo Island, to Samar island, the Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN) consistently withdrew when there was no further armed opposition. The Japanese Army followed a corrupted version of the code of Bushido which allowed atrocities such as the Rape of Nanking. The IJN, on the other hand, seems to have followed the original code, in which it was considered dishonorable to kill an unarmed opponent.
Just my two cents worth on the subject.
moar wooden shipwrecks
love the vids tho
The photo cited as Soryu should be her since her island wasn't as squat as the Shokaku twins and Unryu class.
Nice write-up and audio presentation. Better selections of imagery for the presentation.
JADAF Have a Sub named after her. I trust they've ready!
2:52 as a WOWs player i can confirm
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Ewww wow player wt naval is better
Since they remotely resemble HMS Courageous and her sister (minus the gun turrets) they should have been released instead.
Sorry U
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