I was 15 years old , when my father bought me my first Laser Video Disc Player !! It was spring of 1983 !! It was the Pioneer LD - 1100 model top loading . And had the remote control. I remember he paid $800 plus tax . And my first movie was Psyco !! I have around 100 collected now. My last movie I bought was in 1994 !! The 4 box sets of Twin Peaks !! They were $100 a box with 4 disc in each box. The complete series was 12 disc !! 4 box sets for $400 !! I have never watched them yet !! My last player was the Pioneer CLD - 702 !! and was over $1,000 !! Plus tax !! It’s in storage now since 1996 !! Beautiful memories of my very very privileged childhood and teenage years !! Daddy bought me anything I really wanted and without question !! $500 every Friday for allowance and never did anything around the house for that cash money every single Friday afternoon after school !! Since I was 12 years old. That was $2,000 A month just for new clothes and shoes and makeup and very expensive handbags 👜 !! In today’s money that’s probably around $3,500 a month ?? Spending money each Friday afternoon !! 4 times a month every month since 1990 !! And stopped after he passed away !! Then I got a almost Vulgar amount of money and commercial real estate !! And 3 big brick houses !! 5,000 Square foot each house. That I rent out for $2,500 a month !! $7,500 a month in rent checks from my tenants . I was really lucky 🍀 Then my very own personal income. It’s not easy living on )12,500 a month !!
Great video; brings back some good memories. I was involved with the development of Philips laser disc technology in their reasearch labs in Eindhoven in 1974. I remember prototype players being demonstrated to an invited internal audience who were astonished by the image quality. You have to remember this was before VHS and the only competition was the Philips V2000 VCR.
Thank you for showing the LaserDisc some love!! Many of us still use our players today as many rare and obscure movies are not available on DVD. That and the VHS tape movies the rare ones are on are often terribly degraded. At least with LD, if it was cared for, the movie is as crisp and clear as the day it was pressed and that pressing may have been 30 or more years ago.
This is why I sought out and bought a Laserdisc player in 2018. There are so many things I enjoy that were only ever released in either VHS and Laserdisc. With VHS so badly degraded and getting incredibly rare and with no digital copies available let alone all the extras and other special abilities like crystal clear frame by frame video Laserdisc was the only viable option. Only problem is that I've got to replace all the capacitors on my player and do some preventive maintenance on the belts and motors. Hopefully I'll be able to recap it with ceramic or film capacitors.
Great video. This brings back fond memories of the early 90’s for me. A friend had a LD player, and we would rent movies on the weekend quite often. They were so much better than VHS, and a decade ahead of DVD. At the time having to flip the disk over didn't seem like a big deal.
Nice effort to keep the memory of LaserDisc alive, but almost all of this video's reasons for the LaserDisc "not taking off" are wrong. I know because I sold all of this equipment at the time, at a major video-equipment chain in a nice mall in a well-off area (therefore a good place to sell them). The real reason they didn't take off was that YOU COULDN'T RECORD ON THEM. In the '80s, people still bought VCRs to record things. There were no DVRs and no streaming, so if you weren't home when a show was on, you'd miss it. That was a major concern for consumers at the time; although, years later, it turned out that most people never recorded on their VCRs. People didn't seem to see the hypocrisy in buying CD players (which couldn't record) but not LaserDisc players (which, by the end of the '80s, could play CDs, and movies with Dolby Digital audio). However, LD players were more expensive of course. I loved LaserDiscs and pushed them every way I could, but most people didn't really care about quality any more than they do today. This video claims that manufacturers "refused" to market recordable LDs. WTF? That technology didn't even exist! It took YEARS to get recordable CDs to work, and CD-RWs were NEVER perfected. This video's claims about the weight and size of the discs being a factor are ridiculous. LaserDiscs in their sleeves are about 1/5 as wide as a bulky VHS tape, and are exactly the same size as vinyl record albums. This makes them very efficient to store, on shelves and racks that people already owned. The claim about damage is also ridiculous. With reasonable handling, they will last essentially forever. Video tapes not only wear out markedly with every play, but are easily damaged by magnetism from speakers, motors, or even the TV picture tubes of the day. They also stretch, eventually distorting the magnetic tracks on them and making them unplayable without massive image degradation and audio noise (on Hi-Fi tracks). And noise from spinning the discs? Come on. Not to mention that the sound on video cassettes was absolutely abysmal, compared to the LaserDisc's outstanding stereo and then Dolby Digital. Beta and VHS Hi-Fi were huge improvements, but LDs eventually had the same Dolby Digital audio that we use today.
I still have my LD player (3 actually) and hundreds of LDs, love the fact they have an analog audio track, sounds so much better then a digital track. It's really a shame LD died....you just can't beat analog audio.
Analog audio is the only type of audio, lol. Digital music files are converted to an analogue waveform before it comes out of the speakers. That's why there are DACs or digital to analogue converters. The only analogue source that ever captivated me is the reel to reel tape, which is the ultimate analogue format. It's vastly superior to vinyl.
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I had a huge laserdisc collection it was hard to change to DVD but saw the upgrade in picture and sound built a new collection changed to Blu-ray started a new collection and finally changed to 4k Blu-ray which I'm currently changing all my Blu-ray's over. It's a pain but I still prefer physical media over streaming and still consider it the only guarantee to keeping your favourites free from being deleted by the studios or streaming sensors.
Nice, thank you. I watched a lot of my favourite movies on LD during the early 90s as a kid - T2, Jurassic Park, Navy Seals, Under Siege, Ghost in the Darkness, Fantasia etc. We also 'had' LD boxsets of Tom & Jerry, Star Trek TNG, Indiana Jones & Star Wars OT. A wonderful format to watch movies on with incredible disc 'sleeves' that mirror those of vinyl records.
I bought my first LD player in 1984. I still own approx. 1,700 LaserDiscs and 5 players. 3 different recordable LaserDisc formats were eventually released, although they were meant for Broadcast and Production applications, so they were very expensive. While 2 of these systems could only record onto a disc once (playable in any player), one could record onto the same disc millions of times.
Thank you for a great look back. As a former owner of hundreds of LASERDISCS, the biggest stumbling block amongst friends who happily lived with far inferior videotape, was that LASERDISCS could not record. But another big stumbling block was the format war LASERDISCS had against RCA's CED VIDEODISC system. RCA spent far more money marketing CED discs than Pioneer did for LASERDISCS. Even though the CED format gained some market share, it never sold enough to turn a profit for RCA, so RCA elected to stop selling and making CED Discs. When RCA killed the CED format, videodisc as a video format was considered dead in the mainstream media world. It took a while before people realized that LASERDISC was a completely different disc format and was very much alive. DVD was already on the horizon by the time LASERDISCS sales began to gain some traction. By then it was too late. DVD quickly overtook LASERDISC, and the rest is history.
@ColdFusion, terrific video. Now can you do one on the Beta and how it different and was replaced by VHS? I'm also curious as to what happened to this one as well, thank you!!!
Another awesome retro-tech video from CF. Really enjoyed it and learned about something new. I was born in early nineties but I never came across one of these giant granddad of CDs. And now CDs are also being deprecated. It's amazing to think how tech world has grown over the past few decades .
That's why I only watch movies on Punchcards. The releases take a bit longer though. There is currently not a big market for Punchcards and the production takes time, especially for hand-punched movies. They've just released Avatar on Punchcards. Sure, a few dozen indigenous tribes in New Guinea had to be removed becaue of deforestation. But the 4K is so worth it!
Very interesting and timely video! Oddly enough, just last month I took my Pioneer CLD-3070 LD player out of mothballs and fired it up. Still works. Still plays both sides automatically. Amazing piece of technology. Thanks for posting this.
I remember we used to rent 4 Laser Disc movies and they'd give you the machine over night for no extra charge to play them. We would transfer the movies to VHS so we could watch them later.
A few years ago, the university I work at was throwing their laser discs away. I grabbed a few and took them home to show them to my son, who was born in 1993 and has never known a world without Internet or smartphone. His facial expression was pure "WTF is THIS?" Should have taken a picture...pricelessly hilarious!
It never ceases to amaze me how ignorant the younger generations are. The fact that the world existed before them is a thought completely alien to them.
@@That_AMC_Guy It really blows my mind too. I remember a survey given to teenagers where they had to put in order the time these items were invented: -Car -Computer -Cell Phone -Airplane -Internet -Atom Bomb Would you believe that less than 15% could do it?
Great video Dagogo, the extent of research for old footage is amazing, you make it look so easy. Thankyou for making these videos, I enjoy every one of them.
Our Pioneer laser disc CLD-91 still working. Still quite a number of laserdiscs in the cabinet today. Unfortunately theyre all gathering dust. I might boxed them up soon to release space
Might I say that ‘LaserDisc’ was actually the Pioneer brand of the discs The standard name was ‘LaserVision’ (changed from DiscoVision) but later on LaserDisc became nomenclature like Kleenex vs tissue paper You can see it at 8:32 😄
Yup! Funny thing is that the LD and the 12 inch vinyl records have the same exact size and dimensions but vinyl is easier to handle and more durable, once your needle breaks, you can easily get a replacement stylus, as there are still lots available on the market unlike laser discs, if the optical lens break, then you will have a hard time looking for spares. I also have an LD player made by Kenwood sitting in the room collecting dust and I think it stopped working due to its old age but my 2 vinyl turntables still work flawless since the day I got them back in the good old days. I would love to make my laser disc work again, but I also have my DVD players 3 of them from Sony, and a friend once told me that nobody uses CD's and DVD;s anymore! But I told them, nothing beats organic, and that computers, laptops and cellphones cannot replace the good old machines of yesteryears; they were made specifically to do the task and gets the job done!
The reality is, that the porn industry is what ultimately kills or adapts a new technology. Because anyone with $1000 could become their own porn producer and director, AND distribute themselves, is why the VHS was so successful. If there was a way to record directly to the laser disc from a camera, and the small operation could duplicate those discs, then yeah... we'd still be talking about the glory days of picking up a rental laser disc at Blockbuster instead of video tapes. The term "Tape" has become so ubiquitous in our lexicon, that we still refer to our digital recordings as tapes. "Roll Tape" "Play Back The Tape" "Got it on Tape"
I do love Mr. Nimoy salivating over a Magnavision future of heightened quality entertainment, with unsurpassed clarity and quality...coming through an on-board, integrated, TV mono speaker from the 1970s. Nice !
I remember these things tried to make a comeback in the mid 90's with about as much success. Until now I honestly thought that was their first crack at the market. Had no idea it was 70's tech. Thanks for the vid.
They made money off of the enthusiasts who loved the format, and I will say, it was an amazing format, a bit inconvenient having to flip and change out discs, but the quality was unmatched at the time, and since there was no digital compression it in some way beats out modern releases of classic movies (yes, compression has improved to the point that the differences are becoming negligible, but for a purist, those negligible differences are a problem).
My dad told me about laserdisc a few months ago. He said everybody he knew thought it was a ridiculous format because it was so inconvenient. Especially because you couldn't record broadcast television. I find it very interesting. I wish i could see one in action!
Great info video! As a person, I had LaserDiscs and its player in 90's as a result to my big interest in digital technology. That is probably the shortest but the best video I watched about LaserDisc technology. Great work as usual, keep up the good work, ColdFusion!
Like my teenage nephew said when I showed him my STAR WARS LaserDisc (pre-CGI edit) - the first time he had ever seen a LaserDisc: "Holy f*ck, that's like a DVD on steroids." 😁
I am 36 years old, and as someone still stuck in the 90's, I love and adore LaserDisc. I still don't own a player sadly (I only ever knew one person who did), but still need to get one simply so I can own and watch Terminator 2 on every format imaginable (still need a D-VHS player as well). In fact I am so stuck in the 90's I still almost exclusively buy DVDs over Blu-Rays (despite owning a Blu-Ray player) to play them on my HD DVD player (RIP HD DVD. 15 years later, you still kick Blu-Ray's ass). Oh and of course, I gotta buy the 1993 LaserDisc release of Star Wars (though technically I do with the 2006 Christmas DVD release). I am not a big Star Wars guy, but the 1993 LaserDisc is a must own for any aspiring movie buff. I think the biggest reason why I still give buying a LaserDisc some pause is due to bit rot.
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cold fusion congratulations for surpassing 800,000 subs.....you should make video the history of Sony Corporation its such a magnificent company and it had invented many things..i would be pleased if you make video on it..!!
Geez that would be great! From playing cards to Flat screen TVs and consoles. It's such a great story of friendship, lies, and general human determination!
I found a load of old laserdisc's in a charity shop a while back. They were all 90's blockbusters, and i was pretty surprised when I realised that they were not vinyl soundtracks.
Forgotten? Not in our house. We still love the discs and play them pretty regularly. I liked the informative sleeves and the sheer pleasure of browsing through loads of titles before finally deciding on a title.
I was involved in LaserDisc from before it was released as a consumer product. I worked for Pioneer Electronics and was responsible for Laser Disc being first introduced into General Motors Holden Australia for in dealer training. That was before it became a consumer product. The first Laser Disc Player was the commercial model PR7820. Laser Disc was even the source of the first Video JukeBox located in may venues in Australia this was ultimately followed by the Video CD Jukebox that I was personally responsible for its design and development. I lived and breathed this technology.
When laserdiscs launched, VHS tapes were even more expensive if you were even allowed to buy them. In the early 1980s, VHS movies were seen as a rental only format so movies were $120 (about $500 today). As more VHS players were sold, a few companies like Disney (who was financially desperate at the time) with pricing them to sell through. Their gamble paid of big time and the race to the bottom in pricing started. By the 90s, new LDs were average $25-$30. About %50 more than comparable VHS releases. People often quote the price of the big, deluxe special editions of $150-$200 and mistakenly say that was average. It was not. Those were the prices of things like the Star Wars Trilogy (before the digital tampering) or a multi-disc animated classic like Fantasia that included limited edition cel animation. The thing was, VHS also had "deluxe sets" that cost $75-$100 but with such crappy video and sound and no real ability for things like commentary tracks, they weren't so "special".
It always surprised me that the LD didn't take off. The players got really good over the years and the video was always superior to that of tape. Great presentation Cold Fusion!
I remember them as being too expensive, I didn't know anybody who actually had one, and my gf at the time (1989) worked at a rental place. They had a section of LDs but no one ever rented them, maybe 40 or 50 to 1 against VHS. They wound up selling off all their LDs in 90 or 91 for a couple bucks each. Wish I would have grabbed some, but at the time it seemed like a dead end technology.
no studying? You know that everything that we have achieved are thanks to this same process, even if school life is sometimes boring and long it gives us the basics, and in that same process each one becomes specialized in certain subjects, losing the ability to study is losing the ability to be original. PD: on the same point if there wasn't any studying, how will we develop new technologies?
RoboCoffee My point is we don't need to teach our kids anymore as long as technology is allowed. Basically means we are still pursuing new knowledge but we cut out the old way of studying.
At the Philips television factory where I did my apprenticeship they had a laserdisc player to provide something for the newly made televisions to play while they were heat soaking prior to having their colours calibrated. It always played the same disc, which was a David Attenborough nature documentary. One day the player started malfunctioning, causing it to play only a few minutes of the documentary as an endless loop over and over, with the transition back to the start of the loop being so seamless it just looked like a normal scene change. They asked me to fix it, which I relished because it gave me the chance to have a good look at the innards of this thing. Turns out that the little motor which transports the laser lens across the disc's surface was stuck so the lens couldn't move. But the voice-coil actuators that move the lens quickly (to follow each track) were taking up the slack, but they could do so for only a small portion of the disc, before they'd run out of range and jump back to the start of their range again. A bit of fiddling with the little motor freed it up again and the player was back to normal. The disc itself was interesting too. If you held it up and angled it just right, you could actually see the data patterns on it. It was easy to see the two bands 180 degrees apart that represented the frame sync pulses, and around the disc between these two bands could be seen lots of little blocks each of which represented a single scan line of the image terminated with a sync pulse.
That’s fascinating! Incredible that the tracking alone was able to play a segment of video without the laser carriage being able to move. Such impressive engineering.
They did, it was called CED. I still have 2 working units and about 300 discs. Pretty fun stuff but talk about weight! The discs are quite heavy, about a pound apiece with their caddies.
In about 10 years DVDs and Blue Rays will be replaced with thumb drive videos and portable hard drives. These are starting to be more common now and have no moving parts.
Pioneer bought out the rights to produce LaserDiscs from MCA when MCA was about to dump it as a total loss... it wasn't a name change as described. In fact the name went from DiscoVision to both LaserVision and LaserDisc for years until they settled on LaserDisc for the name. Oh and DiscoVision was strictly a MCA name, it didn't carry over to Pioneer.
Btw LaserDisc did take off, it was just in Japan, not the US. In fact the Japanese preferred it over almost any other format even over DVD well into DVD's early life. Also the gold player you showed was a Japanese MUSE Hi-Vision disc player (the Pioneer HLD-X9). MUSE was an HD LaserDisc format from the early 90s. It was just a few lines smaller than 1080i and could be compared to 1080i HD... (I think it was 1035 lines? So 1035i) it was in fact the only HD disc format until HD-DVD and Blu-Ray. It didn't sell well though because it was multiple times more expensive to buy, plus a $10,000 HDTV was out of the price range of most people. So not many movies were released. But Pioneer made the HLD-X9 until 2002. Because the Japanese loved the LaserDisc format so much, it was one of the main reasons Pioneer kept making players until 2009 (the DVL-919) the other minor reasons were for enthusiasts who needed new players and I think because Pioneer loved their format and didn't want to see it totally die. Also Japanese LaserDiscs tended to have higher picture quality and they sold in Japan until 2001, where it was sales were lopped off in the US in very early 2000.
argorider2 Yes, the Japanese certainly loved the format very well. It wasn't until Sony released the Playstation 2 that they finally started grasping DVD's and the swtich occurred that way.
Laserdisc aren't actually forgotten, though. And about it failing, you're half right. While in the US, it never catched on, in Europe, it became more popular in he 90's, when widescreen was more common, and it was always popular (or at least became popular quickly) in Japan and Southeast Asia, the former where the version of the laserdisc that was actually called laserdisc was made. The disco vision was made by Phillips and MCA, like you said, but Pioneer got the rights to it and remade it, renaming it laserdisc. I said that because from what I got, you said that Pioneer is a brand, when it's actually a separate company, in an entirely different country and even continent than MCA (North America) or Phillips (Europe). Correct me if you meant something else by that. Lastly, most kids won't recognize really anything that existed before they did unless it ever existed at the same time as them while they could remember events from that time period or they were exposed to it in other means (like their parents showing them theirs, seeing it in a video like this or something, etc.). And they might not even care. They have new stuff, too, and they often hate on older stuff because it's not as advanced or powerful as something more recent (or they are just acting, I don't know), some not even appreciating what it paved the way for, which is why I'm far from fond of this generation. I'm getting off topic. Other than those things that annoyed me, great video!
Kids could always watch vids like this one on the net and good bye generation gap. Parents and teacher should educate the youth how to use the net for research instead of playing music videos and facebook.
That was my point in the second paragraph. Kids don't recognize anything unless it existed while they were alive or it was shown to them, an example being videos like this. As for teaching kids to us the internet for research, you're right. In fact, let me do it now! Type your question or something you want to research into Google. It gives you websites to go to.
I am from Germany, born in 1981. I knew nobody who had a Laserdisc-Player in the 80s or 90s. I cannot remember that there were LD-Players or LDs in stores at all. Practically, it did not existed here. One day in the 90s I read of it in magazines. As a format, that only a few movie freaks use. I thought it was far more popular in the USA than in Europe (or at least Germany). But I think we can agree, that Laserdisc had its most success in Japan.
I lived in Indonesia when I was a child as an expat during the 90's. We had a laserdisc player and would rent movies on laserdiscs. They were much easier to use than VCRs - except you had to rotate the disc halfway through the movie, one side could not store an entire movie.
I've been collecting Laserdiscs for a few years and it's one of the neatest defunct video formats. As for issues with flipping discs, starting in the late 80's there were players that fixed those problems and could switch sides automatically. Though they were a bit more expensive than the non-flip ones. I should also mention the Pioneer LD-W1 which had two trays and could automatically switch between four sides.
Cool, but how did the LD;s store the Analog video using the pits and lands of the LD? I thought the pits and lands represent 1 and 0 aka binary, digital data?
+acche2 At a glance it would seem like that but the pits are not of a predefined length to be read as "on" or "off" digitally. The pits were actually of a theoretically infinitely variable length meaning analogue. As for the signal itself, it's recorded analogue FM modulation. A bit strange, but that's the way it was.
acche2 think of it this way, it's a reflective plastic record... the only other video disc media (sold in the US anyway) were CED which was produced from the early 80s to the mid-80s... they were literally records that used electric capacitance when the needle read it. LaserDisc would be like reading a record with a laser (which there is a very very very very expensive record player that actually does that, it's pretty neat except for the fact it only plays black records) it's all the same concept.
acche2 actually that's not true, lasers can pick up anything reflected back from them. It's the hardware that does the decoding of the reflection that decides whether or not it's a digital data type or an analog data type. Digital uses dots and dashes, for ones and zeros and are in a straight line, analog uses modulation to determine the distance of the dashes and the dashes aren't in a straight line. The dashes varied in the grove left and right like a vibration I believe or in the case of records the "vibrations" in the groove. LaserDiscs actually do have grooves, they are embedded into the metal layer which is of course covered by the plastic layer that protects it. If you look at a LaserDisc at an angle it looks like a shiny rainbow like record. Like I said lasers don't determine what the media is, it's the hardware that decodes it, if the hardware is designed to read analog signals it will only read analog signals and if it is designed to read digital signals it will only read digital signals and if it's designed read both it can read either one or both at the same time (later LaserDiscs and players had Dolby Digital sound as an option, plus a lot of the players could play CDs and VCDs and towards the end of their life, some players played DVDs like my Pioneer DVL-909 [though for DVDs it flips to a different laser... CDs and VCDs used the same laser as the LaserDisc]). So yeah lasers are just the tool to read the media, like a stylus on a record player, or a head on a hard drive. Analog is a concept that is hard to describe in LaserDiscs but yeah it's still the same concept of a record more or less.
This has just reminded me that I have the Pioneer laser disc player and about 20 laser discs up in my attic!! I bought them in the mid 90's and they weren't cheap!!! My first DVD player cost £1000 in 1997....owwwww!!!!
Yeah, I still have a laser disc player stored away in a box *somewhere* around my house and quite a few of the movies. I bought it back in the early 1990s. For the time, it was a really good video format. I don't try to keep up with *bleeding* edge technology anymore. It's too expensive to do it and I would rather spend my money on other things. When DVDs originally came out, the laser disc players still seemed better. The DVDs back then would often have artifacts during the compression. It would be interesting to see what the laser discs would look like played on a 1080p HDTV, but I'm not willing to go to the trouble of searching for it and hooking it up to my entertainment system.
I love this guy. Most channels would make a 5 minute long video about "top 5 forgotten tech" but he makes a 10 minute long super interesting video about a failed CD 😂
My dad has a whole BUNCH of these!!! Jurassic Park, Star Wars, and... yeah, a whole lot of them! It's always funny when we tell others about them and nobody's heard of Laser Discs. But the reasons why it didn't take off make sense, I guess. It does get rather old getting up to flip the disc over when that side is over, or putting the next disc in, right in the middle of the movie.
I rented these machines a few times. They made my Sony Trinitron stand up and and perform like a champ. Last movie I watched on Laserdisc was "Schindlers List"
I was 15 years old , when my father bought me my first Laser Video Disc Player !! It was spring of 1983 !! It was the Pioneer LD - 1100 model top loading .
And had the remote control.
I remember he paid $800 plus tax .
And my first movie was Psyco !!
I have around 100 collected now.
My last movie I bought was in 1994 !! The 4 box sets of Twin Peaks !! They were $100 a box with 4 disc in each box.
The complete series was 12 disc !!
4 box sets for $400 !!
I have never watched them yet !!
My last player was the Pioneer CLD - 702 !! and was over $1,000 !! Plus tax !! It’s in storage now since 1996 !! Beautiful memories of my very very privileged childhood and teenage years !! Daddy bought me anything I really wanted and without question !! $500 every Friday for allowance and never did anything around the house for that cash money every single Friday afternoon after school !!
Since I was 12 years old.
That was $2,000
A month just for new clothes and shoes and makeup and very expensive handbags 👜 !!
In today’s money that’s probably around $3,500 a month ?? Spending money each Friday afternoon !! 4 times a month every month since 1990 !! And stopped after he passed away !!
Then I got a almost Vulgar amount of money and commercial real estate !!
And 3 big brick houses !! 5,000
Square foot each house. That I rent out for $2,500 a month !!
$7,500 a month in rent checks from my tenants .
I was really lucky 🍀
Then my very own personal income. It’s not easy living on )12,500 a month !!
Now I understand that why the compact disc (CD) is called so.
Right. It never crossed my mind that there was a behemoth version of the compact disc.
@@alysssalyn Wait until you find out about CEDs which are basically video vinyl discs.
Cassettes were also originally marketed as "Compact Cassette," in comparison to reel-to-reel tapes.
i think its pretty weird to learn about vinyl through a video about laserdisk
I still have a working LD player and 400+ Laserdiscs! I love it!
Well you take good care of this! That's a treasure trove you've got!
Great video; brings back some good memories. I was involved with the development of Philips laser disc technology in their reasearch labs in Eindhoven in 1974. I remember prototype players being demonstrated to an invited internal audience who were astonished by the image quality. You have to remember this was before VHS and the only competition was the Philips V2000 VCR.
I have a Laserdisc player, unfortunately i don't have many movies 🤣
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The explanation of shoorwave lengh laser was so simple and so great!
Thank you for showing the LaserDisc some love!! Many of us still use our players today as many rare and obscure movies are not available on DVD. That and the VHS tape movies the rare ones are on are often terribly degraded. At least with LD, if it was cared for, the movie is as crisp and clear as the day it was pressed and that pressing may have been 30 or more years ago.
This is why I sought out and bought a Laserdisc player in 2018. There are so many things I enjoy that were only ever released in either VHS and Laserdisc. With VHS so badly degraded and getting incredibly rare and with no digital copies available let alone all the extras and other special abilities like crystal clear frame by frame video Laserdisc was the only viable option.
Only problem is that I've got to replace all the capacitors on my player and do some preventive maintenance on the belts and motors. Hopefully I'll be able to recap it with ceramic or film capacitors.
@@sypoth You also need to find the spare parts of laser reading head module! Many good CD Player eventually goes to trash because of no spare!
Assuming those discs aren't damaged or destroyed by Laser Rot, that is.
Great video. This brings back fond memories of the early 90’s for me. A friend had a LD player, and we would rent movies on the weekend quite often. They were so much better than VHS, and a decade ahead of DVD. At the time having to flip the disk over didn't seem like a big deal.
Yeah, in the days when you had to get up to change the channel anyway, flipping or changing out the disc wasn't something we even thought about
Nice effort to keep the memory of LaserDisc alive, but almost all of this video's reasons for the LaserDisc "not taking off" are wrong. I know because I sold all of this equipment at the time, at a major video-equipment chain in a nice mall in a well-off area (therefore a good place to sell them). The real reason they didn't take off was that YOU COULDN'T RECORD ON THEM. In the '80s, people still bought VCRs to record things. There were no DVRs and no streaming, so if you weren't home when a show was on, you'd miss it. That was a major concern for consumers at the time; although, years later, it turned out that most people never recorded on their VCRs. People didn't seem to see the hypocrisy in buying CD players (which couldn't record) but not LaserDisc players (which, by the end of the '80s, could play CDs, and movies with Dolby Digital audio). However, LD players were more expensive of course.
I loved LaserDiscs and pushed them every way I could, but most people didn't really care about quality any more than they do today. This video claims that manufacturers "refused" to market recordable LDs. WTF? That technology didn't even exist! It took YEARS to get recordable CDs to work, and CD-RWs were NEVER perfected.
This video's claims about the weight and size of the discs being a factor are ridiculous. LaserDiscs in their sleeves are about 1/5 as wide as a bulky VHS tape, and are exactly the same size as vinyl record albums. This makes them very efficient to store, on shelves and racks that people already owned. The claim about damage is also ridiculous. With reasonable handling, they will last essentially forever. Video tapes not only wear out markedly with every play, but are easily damaged by magnetism from speakers, motors, or even the TV picture tubes of the day. They also stretch, eventually distorting the magnetic tracks on them and making them unplayable without massive image degradation and audio noise (on Hi-Fi tracks).
And noise from spinning the discs? Come on. Not to mention that the sound on video cassettes was absolutely abysmal, compared to the LaserDisc's outstanding stereo and then Dolby Digital. Beta and VHS Hi-Fi were huge improvements, but LDs eventually had the same Dolby Digital audio that we use today.
i worked at the discovision factory in 1982 making them. enjoy
Excellent comments!
Owned 2 laserdisc players....gotta say cost sucked also...it never came down....ever
Sorry but YES, they did sell recordable discs
@@nathanielscott1654 I think I could live 100 life times and never come across someone who owned a recordable laserdisc player
Wow. I don't know how do you do it, but each of your videos are just amazing. I'm very happy to be able to watch it!
Cheers!!
The secret life of machines (1991) is an awesome series. I highly recommend it!
Hello Tesla sama
i'm very happy when you release a new video because it's a piece of history of technology and it's very very relaxing :)
keep going ;)
I still have my LD player (3 actually) and hundreds of LDs, love the fact they have an analog audio track, sounds so much better then a digital track. It's really a shame LD died....you just can't beat analog audio.
Analog audio is the only type of audio, lol. Digital music files are converted to an analogue waveform before it comes out of the speakers. That's why there are DACs or digital to analogue converters. The only analogue source that ever captivated me is the reel to reel tape, which is the ultimate analogue format. It's vastly superior to vinyl.
@@fightrealhard4683 Metal Cassettes are superior to vinyl as well.
There is VHD, too.
8 track is the best. You can’t beat that sound quality
great video as always, please dont stop making them.
I have a laserdisc player, we dont use it anymore. it was really cool at that time,
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the comments in this section "who? you! Me?! what babe? reminded me of the labyrinth lyrics by david bowie
You remind me of the babe
What babe? the babe with the power
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Do what? remind me of the babe
this video is so relaxing, it actually entertains me and i learn stuff. Everytime i get a project for school i come here thanks for putting the best work in your videos
Hello, i wach every cold fusion episode from my country România (europe), and i like the way you explayn things, very clear, that every one can understand, and put things in a wat to apear more interesting. God bless you!
The editting, the music and the calm voice. I love these video's so much. So well put together. Love it!
i love laserdisc, even bought one today :)
I had a huge laserdisc collection it was hard to change to DVD but saw the upgrade in picture and sound built a new collection changed to Blu-ray started a new collection and finally changed to 4k Blu-ray which I'm currently changing all my Blu-ray's over. It's a pain but I still prefer physical media over streaming and still consider it the only guarantee to keeping your favourites free from being deleted by the studios or streaming sensors.
Nice, thank you. I watched a lot of my favourite movies on LD during the early 90s as a kid - T2, Jurassic Park, Navy Seals, Under Siege, Ghost in the Darkness, Fantasia etc. We also 'had' LD boxsets of Tom & Jerry, Star Trek TNG, Indiana Jones & Star Wars OT. A wonderful format to watch movies on with incredible disc 'sleeves' that mirror those of vinyl records.
I bought my first LD player in 1984. I still own approx. 1,700 LaserDiscs and 5 players. 3 different recordable LaserDisc formats were eventually released, although they were meant for Broadcast and Production applications, so they were very expensive. While 2 of these systems could only record onto a disc once (playable in any player), one could record onto the same disc millions of times.
I still remember, when i was kid, about 5 - 7 years old. Me and my father often rent a laser disc.
Thank you for a great look back.
As a former owner of hundreds of LASERDISCS, the biggest stumbling block amongst friends who happily lived with far inferior videotape, was that LASERDISCS could not record. But another big stumbling block was the format war LASERDISCS had against RCA's CED VIDEODISC system.
RCA spent far more money marketing CED discs than Pioneer did for LASERDISCS. Even though the CED format gained some market share, it never sold enough to turn a profit for RCA, so RCA elected to stop selling and making CED Discs.
When RCA killed the CED format, videodisc as a video format was considered dead in the mainstream media world. It took a while before people realized that LASERDISC was a completely different disc format and was very much alive. DVD was already on the horizon by the time LASERDISCS sales began to gain some traction. By then it was too late. DVD quickly overtook LASERDISC, and the rest is history.
this was so interesting !!! I love your videos bro!
such good vibe!
+Mario Simek Cheers Mario!
can you do history of sony?
You forgot to mention how porn play a big part in medium war. :P
@ColdFusion, terrific video. Now can you do one on the Beta and how it different and was replaced by VHS? I'm also curious as to what happened to this one as well, thank you!!!
good idea, I also love and own beta machines and movies to this day as I do laserdisc
ABBA's final album, The Visitors, was the first album ever to be released commercially in CD back in 1982.
Excellent video...Every single time you come up with something interesting and a not so common topic...Keep up the good work😀
Another awesome retro-tech video from CF. Really enjoyed it and learned about something new. I was born in early nineties but I never came across one of these giant granddad of CDs. And now CDs are also being deprecated. It's amazing to think how tech world has grown over the past few decades .
That's why I only watch movies on Punchcards. The releases take a bit longer though. There is currently not a big market for Punchcards and the production takes time, especially for hand-punched movies. They've just released Avatar on Punchcards. Sure, a few dozen indigenous tribes in New Guinea had to be removed becaue of deforestation. But the 4K is so worth it!
Is it in 3D also?
Very interesting and timely video! Oddly enough, just last month I took my Pioneer CLD-3070 LD player out of mothballs and fired it up. Still works. Still plays both sides automatically. Amazing piece of technology. Thanks for posting this.
I still have 2 LDs at Home.. Independence day. Even my player's still working!😂
I remember we used to rent 4 Laser Disc movies and they'd give you the machine over night for no extra charge to play them.
We would transfer the movies to VHS so we could watch them later.
0:55 Scratch Proof Huh? Mkay.... sure. whatever you say.
I mean, compared to CEDs...
@@drewgehringer7813 0
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@@drewgehringer7813 CED is a piece of shit. It doesn't work no matter how clean the CD is and system is.
Does anybody here watch techmoan
yup
yes why youre asking
Just curious
I thought this was a techmoan video when I first clicked.
Same here actually
A few years ago, the university I work at was throwing their laser discs away. I grabbed a few and took them home to show them to my son, who was born in 1993 and has never known a world without Internet or smartphone. His facial expression was pure "WTF is THIS?" Should have taken a picture...pricelessly hilarious!
It never ceases to amaze me how ignorant the younger generations are. The fact that the world existed before them is a thought completely alien to them.
@@That_AMC_Guy It really blows my mind too. I remember a survey given to teenagers where they had to put in order the time these items were invented:
-Car
-Computer
-Cell Phone
-Airplane
-Internet
-Atom Bomb
Would you believe that less than 15% could do it?
OK Boomers
@@That_AMC_Guy It's your generation that taught us smartass.
@@That_AMC_Guy ok boomer
Well done. I enjoyed not only the content but the vintage clips you selected. Keep up the good work.
I used to see these things in my high school in the early 2000's. I didn't know they were that old.
Great video Dagogo, the extent of research for old footage is amazing, you make it look so easy.
Thankyou for making these videos, I enjoy every one of them.
FYI: LaserDisc uses pulse width modulation, a discrete analog signal processing technique.
Our Pioneer laser disc CLD-91 still working. Still quite a number of laserdiscs in the cabinet today. Unfortunately theyre all gathering dust. I might boxed them up soon to release space
Might I say that ‘LaserDisc’ was actually the Pioneer brand of the discs
The standard name was ‘LaserVision’ (changed from DiscoVision) but later on LaserDisc became nomenclature like Kleenex vs tissue paper
You can see it at 8:32 😄
I have a DiscoVision disc of the Six Million Dollar Man "Bigfoot" episode.
Thank you! First time I've seen a thorough explanation of this type of technology.
I still love vinyl records, I love how they sound and how they work.
Yup! Funny thing is that the LD and the 12 inch vinyl records have the same exact size and dimensions but vinyl is easier to handle and more durable, once your needle breaks, you can easily get a replacement stylus, as there are still lots available on the market unlike laser discs, if the optical lens break, then you will have a hard time looking for spares. I also have an LD player made by Kenwood sitting in the room collecting dust and I think it stopped working due to its old age but my 2 vinyl turntables still work flawless since the day I got them back in the good old days. I would love to make my laser disc work again, but I also have my DVD players 3 of them from Sony, and a friend once told me that nobody uses CD's and DVD;s anymore! But I told them, nothing beats organic, and that computers, laptops and cellphones cannot replace the good old machines of yesteryears; they were made specifically to do the task and gets the job done!
EXCELENT video, thanks! I have a lot of Laserdics at home... :D
The reality is, that the porn industry is what ultimately kills or adapts a new technology. Because anyone with $1000 could become their own porn producer and director, AND distribute themselves, is why the VHS was so successful. If there was a way to record directly to the laser disc from a camera, and the small operation could duplicate those discs, then yeah... we'd still be talking about the glory days of picking up a rental laser disc at Blockbuster instead of video tapes.
The term "Tape" has become so ubiquitous in our lexicon, that we still refer to our digital recordings as tapes. "Roll Tape" "Play Back The Tape" "Got it on Tape"
No. Myth.
I do love Mr. Nimoy salivating over a Magnavision future of heightened quality entertainment, with unsurpassed clarity and quality...coming through an on-board, integrated, TV mono speaker from the 1970s. Nice !
Great Video! I still have My Laser Discs!
I still collect LD's. With the right video processor they look great on modern HD screens. And the presentation of the discs is unbeatable.
Mr Wizard! He's the best! I'm going to look for this video of him talking about lasers
I don't know what it is, but the combination of the voice, video, and the music makes me happy and relax.
Really interesting ... thank you!
+Rob O'Doherty No worries, glad you liked it!
I remember these things tried to make a comeback in the mid 90's with about as much success. Until now I honestly thought that was their first crack at the market. Had no idea it was 70's tech. Thanks for the vid.
They were selling LD players till 2009??? How did they manage to make money out of it?
They were selling VHS VCRs until this year!
Some classic movies aren't available in digital format so I guess I see why
They made money off of the enthusiasts who loved the format, and I will say, it was an amazing format, a bit inconvenient having to flip and change out discs, but the quality was unmatched at the time, and since there was no digital compression it in some way beats out modern releases of classic movies (yes, compression has improved to the point that the differences are becoming negligible, but for a purist, those negligible differences are a problem).
Some have built in DVD players. I have one with a CD player.
Somebody needs to make a LD/CD/DVD/Blu Ray combo unit that can connect to the internet
The format was quite popular in Japan. To my knowledge, some of the later players were released more or less exclusively over there.
thank you so much for giving laserdisc some credit and showing people of today how great it was, I am a Laserdisc collector
You r watching coldfusion tv ! . who came here just to listen it ! #incredible voice .
My dad told me about laserdisc a few months ago. He said everybody he knew thought it was a ridiculous format because it was so inconvenient. Especially because you couldn't record broadcast television. I find it very interesting. I wish i could see one in action!
I'm calling bullshit on "scratch proof"
Laser discs deserve people's respect. They had epic quality.
Regular Show taught me what a LaserDisc was.
Same
@@USAirsoft shame
Same
Great info video! As a person, I had LaserDiscs and its player in 90's as a result to my big interest in digital technology. That is probably the shortest but the best video I watched about LaserDisc technology. Great work as usual, keep up the good work, ColdFusion!
Oh, that's quit enjoyable surprise for this early Saturday.
After so long quest finally i get one Laserdisc player 🙌👏👌😍
Where do you find your clips from? Amazing!
Stock footages
ikr, i wonder the same thing
i think hes an actual time traveler
ColdFusion, History Channel etc. owned by Walt Disney :)
MuVioN the whole porn industry, owned by Disney.
Thanks. It brings good memories. My uncle had one for a moment. I remember as a child watching some concert from it.
That's one big ass cd
It's not a cd, cd stands for COMPACT disc
I see what you did there
its a joke
Like my teenage nephew said when I showed him my STAR WARS LaserDisc (pre-CGI edit) - the first time he had ever seen a LaserDisc:
"Holy f*ck, that's like a DVD on steroids." 😁
LOOooOl
I am 36 years old, and as someone still stuck in the 90's, I love and adore LaserDisc. I still don't own a player sadly (I only ever knew one person who did), but still need to get one simply so I can own and watch Terminator 2 on every format imaginable (still need a D-VHS player as well).
In fact I am so stuck in the 90's I still almost exclusively buy DVDs over Blu-Rays (despite owning a Blu-Ray player) to play them on my HD DVD player (RIP HD DVD. 15 years later, you still kick Blu-Ray's ass).
Oh and of course, I gotta buy the 1993 LaserDisc release of Star Wars (though technically I do with the 2006 Christmas DVD release). I am not a big Star Wars guy, but the 1993 LaserDisc is a must own for any aspiring movie buff.
I think the biggest reason why I still give buying a LaserDisc some pause is due to bit rot.
This is the best RUclips Channel at this moment in my point of view. / It would be interesting to have a video about ColdFusion (nuclear fusion) in the future, but no hurry, only make it when you feel comfortably good. Nice work, well done, keep the channel going. Support!!
I still have my Pioneer Laser Disc player. Once in a while we still watch one of the movies we have.
cold fusion congratulations for surpassing 800,000 subs.....you should make video the history of Sony Corporation its such a magnificent company and it had invented many things..i would be pleased if you make video on it..!!
Yeah please make a video on Sony.
Geez that would be great! From playing cards to Flat screen TVs and consoles. It's such a great story of friendship, lies, and general human determination!
Yes please, I'm excited for the Xperia XZ.
jugal surti I love Sony, I'd love to see it.
THE SILVER KNIGHT download the app then please.
I found a load of old laserdisc's in a charity shop a while back. They were all 90's blockbusters, and i was pretty surprised when I realised that they were not vinyl soundtracks.
i never even saw a laser disc in my life
Forgotten? Not in our house. We still love the discs and play them pretty regularly. I liked the informative sleeves and the sheer pleasure of browsing through loads of titles before finally deciding on a title.
'scratchproof'
I was involved in LaserDisc from before it was released as a consumer product. I worked for Pioneer Electronics and was responsible for Laser Disc being first introduced into General Motors Holden Australia for in dealer training. That was before it became a consumer product. The first Laser Disc Player was the commercial model PR7820. Laser Disc was even the source of the first Video JukeBox located in may venues in Australia this was ultimately followed by the Video CD Jukebox that I was personally responsible for its design and development. I lived and breathed this technology.
Laser discs failed because they were too expensive for the average person.
Hard to say something "failed" if it lasted 25 years on the marketplace.
yes things that are not so mass produced usually are more expensive...
When laserdiscs launched, VHS tapes were even more expensive if you were even allowed to buy them. In the early 1980s, VHS movies were seen as a rental only format so movies were $120 (about $500 today). As more VHS players were sold, a few companies like Disney (who was financially desperate at the time) with pricing them to sell through. Their gamble paid of big time and the race to the bottom in pricing started. By the 90s, new LDs were average $25-$30. About %50 more than comparable VHS releases. People often quote the price of the big, deluxe special editions of $150-$200 and mistakenly say that was average. It was not. Those were the prices of things like the Star Wars Trilogy (before the digital tampering) or a multi-disc animated classic like Fantasia that included limited edition cel animation. The thing was, VHS also had "deluxe sets" that cost $75-$100 but with such crappy video and sound and no real ability for things like commentary tracks, they weren't so "special".
Folks were willing to sacrifice picture quality for cost. Much like today with music quality from computer files and cell phones.
Also, a really good Laserdisc player would run from $700-$2000 compared to a couple hundred for a good VHS deck at the time.
I have seen so many poorly researched and produced videos that it is a rare treat to watch one as well done, both technically and factually, as yours.
Do How Big Is Asus...... and its history. You are Awesome.
Asus like the STRIX card manufacturer? their laptops and tablets are the worst.
people who don't know anything about asus
Sanan kanwar ?
what did you know?
asus makes great laptops and gaming laptops for the price and although their tablets arent that good they are still decent
It always surprised me that the LD didn't take off. The players got really good over the years and the video was always superior to that of tape. Great presentation Cold Fusion!
I remember them as being too expensive, I didn't know anybody who actually had one, and my gf at the time (1989) worked at a rental place. They had a section of LDs but no one ever rented them, maybe 40 or 50 to 1 against VHS.
They wound up selling off all their LDs in 90 or 91 for a couple bucks each. Wish I would have grabbed some, but at the time it seemed like a dead end technology.
Waiting for the days human becomes cyborg, basically we don't have to study anymore and focus on prolonging life and researching new technology.
cool
no studying? You know that everything that we have achieved are thanks to this same process, even if school life is sometimes boring and long it gives us the basics, and in that same process each one becomes specialized in certain subjects, losing the ability to study is losing the ability to be original.
PD: on the same point if there wasn't any studying, how will we develop new technologies?
RoboCoffee My point is we don't need to teach our kids anymore as long as technology is allowed. Basically means we are still pursuing new knowledge but we cut out the old way of studying.
+Ryan Origin
You may obtain and retain information easier as a cyborg, but knowing how to use such information?
2010ngojo That's my point, whenever technology is advanced enough to become one with our neuron system.
At the Philips television factory where I did my apprenticeship they had a laserdisc player to provide something for the newly made televisions to play while they were heat soaking prior to having their colours calibrated. It always played the same disc, which was a David Attenborough nature documentary. One day the player started malfunctioning, causing it to play only a few minutes of the documentary as an endless loop over and over, with the transition back to the start of the loop being so seamless it just looked like a normal scene change. They asked me to fix it, which I relished because it gave me the chance to have a good look at the innards of this thing. Turns out that the little motor which transports the laser lens across the disc's surface was stuck so the lens couldn't move. But the voice-coil actuators that move the lens quickly (to follow each track) were taking up the slack, but they could do so for only a small portion of the disc, before they'd run out of range and jump back to the start of their range again. A bit of fiddling with the little motor freed it up again and the player was back to normal.
The disc itself was interesting too. If you held it up and angled it just right, you could actually see the data patterns on it. It was easy to see the two bands 180 degrees apart that represented the frame sync pulses, and around the disc between these two bands could be seen lots of little blocks each of which represented a single scan line of the image terminated with a sync pulse.
That’s fascinating! Incredible that the tracking alone was able to play a segment of video without the laser carriage being able to move. Such impressive engineering.
You should talk about the console that used the LaserDiscs
You mean the laseractive
aidan Stenson yeah :P
Didn't RCA even have a stylus-read video discs? I remember when they were discontinued.
They did, it was called CED. I still have 2 working units and about 300 discs. Pretty fun stuff but talk about weight! The discs are quite heavy, about a pound apiece with their caddies.
I have a RCA drawer load player and over 150 movies. It all still works very well and the discs play exceptionally.
@2:00 - RIP Leonard Nimoy
Bring back discs with the diameter of the LaserDisc please. A blu-ray that large would have more storage than anyone will ever need for porn.
In about 10 years DVDs and Blue Rays will be replaced with thumb drive videos and portable hard drives. These are starting to be more common now and have no moving parts.
could it make a comeback if analog computers made a comeback?
I had one when i was 6 or 5, it was a Tom & Jerry LD disc, I remember putting the big LD into the player every sunday morning.
Pioneer bought out the rights to produce LaserDiscs from MCA when MCA was about to dump it as a total loss... it wasn't a name change as described. In fact the name went from DiscoVision to both LaserVision and LaserDisc for years until they settled on LaserDisc for the name. Oh and DiscoVision was strictly a MCA name, it didn't carry over to Pioneer.
That's true, Pioneer was the only one that saw potential in this.
Btw LaserDisc did take off, it was just in Japan, not the US. In fact the Japanese preferred it over almost any other format even over DVD well into DVD's early life. Also the gold player you showed was a Japanese MUSE Hi-Vision disc player (the Pioneer HLD-X9). MUSE was an HD LaserDisc format from the early 90s. It was just a few lines smaller than 1080i and could be compared to 1080i HD... (I think it was 1035 lines? So 1035i) it was in fact the only HD disc format until HD-DVD and Blu-Ray. It didn't sell well though because it was multiple times more expensive to buy, plus a $10,000 HDTV was out of the price range of most people. So not many movies were released. But Pioneer made the HLD-X9 until 2002. Because the Japanese loved the LaserDisc format so much, it was one of the main reasons Pioneer kept making players until 2009 (the DVL-919) the other minor reasons were for enthusiasts who needed new players and I think because Pioneer loved their format and didn't want to see it totally die. Also Japanese LaserDiscs tended to have higher picture quality and they sold in Japan until 2001, where it was sales were lopped off in the US in very early 2000.
argorider2 Yes, the Japanese certainly loved the format very well. It wasn't until Sony released the Playstation 2 that they finally started grasping DVD's and the swtich occurred that way.
yep
Great Video as always! I'm proud that you took the step to rename the channel. It seems to worked out quite well, you deserve it!
Laserdisc aren't actually forgotten, though.
And about it failing, you're half right. While in the US, it never catched on, in Europe, it became more popular in he 90's, when widescreen was more common, and it was always popular (or at least became popular quickly) in Japan and Southeast Asia, the former where the version of the laserdisc that was actually called laserdisc was made. The disco vision was made by Phillips and MCA, like you said, but Pioneer got the rights to it and remade it, renaming it laserdisc. I said that because from what I got, you said that Pioneer is a brand, when it's actually a separate company, in an entirely different country and even continent than MCA (North America) or Phillips (Europe). Correct me if you meant something else by that.
Lastly, most kids won't recognize really anything that existed before they did unless it ever existed at the same time as them while they could remember events from that time period or they were exposed to it in other means (like their parents showing them theirs, seeing it in a video like this or something, etc.). And they might not even care. They have new stuff, too, and they often hate on older stuff because it's not as advanced or powerful as something more recent (or they are just acting, I don't know), some not even appreciating what it paved the way for, which is why I'm far from fond of this generation. I'm getting off topic.
Other than those things that annoyed me, great video!
Kids could always watch vids like this one on the net and good bye generation gap. Parents and teacher should educate the youth how to use the net for research instead of playing music videos and facebook.
That was my point in the second paragraph. Kids don't recognize anything unless it existed while they were alive or it was shown to them, an example being videos like this. As for teaching kids to us the internet for research, you're right. In fact, let me do it now! Type your question or something you want to research into Google. It gives you websites to go to.
I am from Germany, born in 1981. I knew nobody who had a Laserdisc-Player in the 80s or 90s. I cannot remember that there were LD-Players or LDs in stores at all. Practically, it did not existed here. One day in the 90s I read of it in magazines. As a format, that only a few movie freaks use. I thought it was far more popular in the USA than in Europe (or at least Germany). But I think we can agree, that Laserdisc had its most success in Japan.
I lived in Indonesia when I was a child as an expat during the 90's. We had a laserdisc player and would rent movies on laserdiscs. They were much easier to use than VCRs - except you had to rotate the disc halfway through the movie, one side could not store an entire movie.
Sebastian Nolte I'm from 80 and we and thermae in schools and at rental outlets in Austin
I've been collecting Laserdiscs for a few years and it's one of the neatest defunct video formats.
As for issues with flipping discs, starting in the late 80's there were players that fixed those problems and could switch sides automatically. Though they were a bit more expensive than the non-flip ones. I should also mention the Pioneer LD-W1 which had two trays and could automatically switch between four sides.
Cool, but how did the LD;s store the Analog video using the pits and lands of the LD? I thought the pits and lands represent 1 and 0 aka binary, digital data?
+acche2 At a glance it would seem like that but the pits are not of a predefined length to be read as "on" or "off" digitally. The pits were actually of a theoretically infinitely variable length meaning analogue. As for the signal itself, it's recorded analogue FM modulation. A bit strange, but that's the way it was.
Got it from wikipedia: "the information is encoded as analog pulse width modulation"
that's strange indeed. It reminds me of SACD
acche2 think of it this way, it's a reflective plastic record... the only other video disc media (sold in the US anyway) were CED which was produced from the early 80s to the mid-80s... they were literally records that used electric capacitance when the needle read it.
LaserDisc would be like reading a record with a laser (which there is a very very very very expensive record player that actually does that, it's pretty neat except for the fact it only plays black records) it's all the same concept.
it's not the same concept because the laser can only pick up 1 and 0's, not like what a needle can pick up.
acche2 actually that's not true, lasers can pick up anything reflected back from them. It's the hardware that does the decoding of the reflection that decides whether or not it's a digital data type or an analog data type. Digital uses dots and dashes, for ones and zeros and are in a straight line, analog uses modulation to determine the distance of the dashes and the dashes aren't in a straight line. The dashes varied in the grove left and right like a vibration I believe or in the case of records the "vibrations" in the groove. LaserDiscs actually do have grooves, they are embedded into the metal layer which is of course covered by the plastic layer that protects it. If you look at a LaserDisc at an angle it looks like a shiny rainbow like record. Like I said lasers don't determine what the media is, it's the hardware that decodes it, if the hardware is designed to read analog signals it will only read analog signals and if it is designed to read digital signals it will only read digital signals and if it's designed read both it can read either one or both at the same time (later LaserDiscs and players had Dolby Digital sound as an option, plus a lot of the players could play CDs and VCDs and towards the end of their life, some players played DVDs like my Pioneer DVL-909 [though for DVDs it flips to a different laser... CDs and VCDs used the same laser as the LaserDisc]). So yeah lasers are just the tool to read the media, like a stylus on a record player, or a head on a hard drive. Analog is a concept that is hard to describe in LaserDiscs but yeah it's still the same concept of a record more or less.
This has just reminded me that I have the Pioneer laser disc player and about 20 laser discs up in my attic!! I bought them in the mid 90's and they weren't cheap!!! My first DVD player cost £1000 in 1997....owwwww!!!!
Yeah, I still have a laser disc player stored away in a box *somewhere* around my house and quite a few of the movies. I bought it back in the early 1990s. For the time, it was a really good video format. I don't try to keep up with *bleeding* edge technology anymore. It's too expensive to do it and I would rather spend my money on other things. When DVDs originally came out, the laser disc players still seemed better. The DVDs back then would often have artifacts during the compression. It would be interesting to see what the laser discs would look like played on a 1080p HDTV, but I'm not willing to go to the trouble of searching for it and hooking it up to my entertainment system.
Plz do how big is Alibaba
pretty big
The real question in that case is "How big is China?"
Chian China I've got to have my China - D. Trump
God , this company is the perverted provider for people who dont care about quality products.
No. That was the OPTICAL DISC. Yeah, its the "same" recording medium, but it was in a sealed plastic cartridge. I have one. 1979 build date on it.
Can you make one on LG. Congrats on 800,000+ subs. Keep doing what you are doing and love your face dude
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goldstar aw yes
***** It's not the weirdest it can be, I can call myself Creamy Memestar
But why would you want a name like that
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I love this guy. Most channels would make a 5 minute long video about "top 5 forgotten tech" but he makes a 10 minute long super interesting video about a failed CD 😂
Are these things worth anything?
My dad has a whole BUNCH of these!!! Jurassic Park, Star Wars, and... yeah, a whole lot of them! It's always funny when we tell others about them and nobody's heard of Laser Discs. But the reasons why it didn't take off make sense, I guess. It does get rather old getting up to flip the disc over when that side is over, or putting the next disc in, right in the middle of the movie.
Scratch proof? I beg to differ.
I rented these machines a few times. They made my Sony Trinitron stand up and and perform like a champ. Last movie I watched on Laserdisc was "Schindlers List"