Tons of quick info here on BOTH fans so you can make a decision. This is Part One, showing comparison and detailed description from an actual van lifer, not the company. Pros and Cons to both. Affiliate Links: MAXXAIR - amzn.to/3MXnPHC FRESAIR - fresair.com/affiliate-shop?sld=ryanbell88
You lost me when talking about power. You switched the talking point to efficiency, but when talking about efficiency you never measured air volume and only compared air speed. Air speed is wanted to blow in your face to cool you down but air volume is needed to exchange hot air in the van. I hate to nitpick but as someone who lives in a van myself, efficiency is important and needs to take all parameters of measurement in to account. None the less its a pretty sweet fan.
A very fair point! I messaged Fresair to get the units of air flow. They responded, but it seemed to be slightly different unit of measure from the Maxxair that I could find. I'll do the math and pin it in my pinned comment and video description. It might end up being the only place online you can find the answer. Fresair had to message the maker to get the answer and still only one number that represents the air flow at max power.
So still trying to figure it out. I emailed them back for clarification, but until they respond, this is what they have said so far: Maxxair advertises that max power puts out 900 CFM Fresair emailed me this: "The only information we were able to obtain is for the Fresair on the highest setting - CFM / CRM: 400m(cubed) per hour." CFM stands for cubic feet per minute. But they said theirs is per hour? So I am confused and can't find a decent answer online. If this was really per hour, and not per minute, then that would seem to me to be completely off. Their response was just confusing. Maybe it's just 400 CFM total per minute, but I would still question it given the velocity of the air flow from 4 jets. Although the Maxxair is a bigger radius overall. Their answer just confuses me more. Anyone know if there is an extra calculation to equate the two numbers?
Actually no, they did give me some money off, but I did not sugar coat anything for them. I have no contract with them and don't care if they get sales. They didn't even ask me to make a video or hold me to it. This was a completely honest comparison. I also make pretty much nothing from affiliate links, so I'm really not even concerned about that either. I legit made this video knowing it wouldn't make me money, but I did so to help people understand the difference and just how little wind a Maxxair actually puts out. That was the big one for me. Everyone is getting the Maxxair just because it's the thing to do, they don't realize just how little wind is being put out. That said, the Fresair is in an odd part of the market, too expensive for most people who just want a fan. I think there is more opportunity for someone to come in and make a much better fan at a way cheaper price without it having to run water through it for air cooling. But some people out west are going to want the Fresair, it makes sense for these people the most. Still I'm not going to use the water cooling, yet I would buy it all over again. I'll probably never use a Maxxair myself again, although I do not think they are bad fans, just better out there for a little more money.
Let's see....one is over a thousand dollars and the other is three hundred. Hmmmn. Wait one can actually cool the temperature but then again you have to move to Arizona or another hot "dry" climate for it to work. LOL! Plus I never heard of Fresair so don't really have a real review of it's durability or longevity. TBH, Both are way overpriced. Here's a video that shows a 'fan hack' with a $20 box fan that could easily be rotated in or out....ruclips.net/video/0hbvA1_Nx7E/видео.html and it fits the preexisting escape hatch. Although you may need to come up with a magnetic screen hack or bugs. You're welcome budget bus buddies.
I got 2 Maxxairfan deluxe. I'd add that 2 Maxxairfans are critical in maximizing airflow, specifically if you don't have windows--one fan sucks air in and the other sucks air out. The sweet spot is probably combining the swamp cooler with a Maxxairfan. Also, fan placement is important, install one of the fans right above your bed.
Not sure what kind of ac you plan to put under your bed, but there is a fairly new ac option I would consider. It's a backpack mini split 12 volt. You mount the backpack outside unit to the rear door and the blower unit on the inside of the same door. They appear to be about $800..
@@Monstufpud search for mini split 12v on a van, I've found quite a few. 1st I did backpack mini split 12v in Google/amazon truck/rv mini split came up, maybe that's what he's talking about since that's what people installed. 🤷🏾♀️
Another epic video that I am planning on putting to good use! Unrelated question: What are your thoughts on gas vs diesel for vans? Should I consider diesel at all? Or only look for gas powered engines? I’m looking to get a Ford Transit 350 max length if possible.
So love the choice in van! Diesel vs Gas, for the maintenance, gas is better. You do get better fuel economy with diesel, but it kinda costs more now anyway... so that is up to you. With a diesel you can install a diesel heater directly to your fuel tank, which I did. Gas, you just need an extra tank for diesel. I would have been fine with a gas engine too. But diesel comes with a cool factor too. Watch out for the DPF filter and exhaust system on the diesels. They can be a pain to replace and cost a lot! This alone holds some back from buying one! But if mine goes bad, I'm just going to straight pipe delete it (illegal). This will give me like 10 more MPG and way more power.
Haha, well I got at least one positive comment about the end now! Some people were saying they were going to unsub because it was corny, but honestly I was like "oh I need and ending" and I just picked up my camera and recorded it, first thing that came to mind while filming. Wasn't planned to say it at all haha. It just happened and I thought it was funny to keep it in.
IDK man, Although this is supposed to be a simple comparison from a real Van Lifer, it sounds to me like you have a deal with "Fresair" as this video seemed completely biased towards them?! I'm curious if you'd be willing to go on record and say you have absolutely no affiliation with them and you have never received any 'perks' from them? What you quickly 'breezed' over (lol) was the fact that the Maxxair was nice and flush to the ceiling whereas the Fresair was a concussion waiting to happen. 💥🥴 *Unless of course you had a roof raise. (Most don't) Also the Fresair is BLACK which is a total eye sore. I've watched hundreds of skoolie videos and have yet to see a black ceiling. So not only is it a hazard physically but it's also an assault to the aesthetics of 99% of the builds out there. Just saying.
They did give me some money off, but I did not sugar coat anything for them. I have no contract with them and don't care if they get sales. They didn't even ask me to make a video or hold me to it. This was a completely honest comparison and I legit think the Fresair is really this good. They even have a new white version. Yes, it hangs lower and I really should have mentioned this a bit more. It doesn't really effect me in my van because I can walk under it and still stand straight, I'm 6'3". I also make pretty much nothing from affiliate links, so I'm really not even concerned about that either. I legit made this video knowing it wouldn't make me money, but I did so to help people understand the difference and just how little wind a Maxxair actually puts out. That was the big one for me. Everyone is getting the Maxxair just because it's the thing to do, they don't realize just how little wind is being put out. That said, the Fresair is in an odd part of the market, too expensive for most people who just want a fan. I think there is more opportunity for someone to come in and make a much better fan at a way cheaper price without it having to run water through it for air cooling. But some people out west are going to want the Fresair, it makes sense for these people the most. Still I'm not going to use the water cooling, yet I would buy it all over again. I'll probably never use a Maxxair myself again, although I do not think they are bad fans, just better out there for a little more money. When it comes to it, the fresair actually has me sleep comfortably in hot weather. The maxxair could never do this for me. Sleep is the most important thing in my life. This is why Fresair wins in my mind, not because they gave me some money off. I paid $1000 plus shipping, no other deals were made.
This is great info, thank you man! Question: does the Fresair require specifically cold water for its evaporative cooling function or does the temperature of the water you're routing from your existing tank not matter in this case?
Oh right on. I just went and looked at their website and they said that "thermal sensation" (perceived air temperature?) would only be minimally different if you put ice in the resevoir; thus, it is ultimately unnecessary to do. If that's true, then that's a total pro for Fresair!
We have both and we’re disappointed with the Fresair. It’s mounted over the bed and simply doesn’t cool enough, unless you are lying directly under it. Even using fans, including our Maxxair, to move the cooler air forward, doesn’t help. My other complaint is there’s no way to know how full the water tank is. A light comes on when it’s low, but beyond that, guesswork.
Dawg! Great video, and great editing as well! Great topic, I was wondering about fan/air conditioner stuff. I like the idea of having AC, but it's difficult to actually have it due to power constraints. Even though the Fresair is nice, I will probably go with Maxxair so I can blow cooking smells as well as my anal gasses outside the living space. Also, the ending for your video was hilarious. I love that shit.
I'm hugely loving the Fresair! It's very nice low power way to stay cool even on low power modes. I found an AC system that is low power and lower output overall, but actually might be best for most vanners since we usually don't ever have enough room for enough solar to keep up with normal compressors. A video on this will probably be put out in two months. Next video is the big one! A halfway tour of my van. People been asking for it
It comes down 5 to 6 inches. While I did put this in the video, I really should have made a bigger deal about this. It's not an issue for me since I have a tall van and can still stand below my Fresair. But short vans would have a much bigger impact. So I do not recommend this fan for shorter vans!
@@OutdoorsEmbrace Ya, Saw it in your video But seen your build out and it did not look to stick out that much. Ya, my inside height for the Van is only 5'11" My girl stands 5'11" flat footed so with boots she 6'1" to 6"2"
@prophetseven728 you could always mount it closer to one side of the van, or on a part of the roof where you will be less likely to hit it on your head from below. It will come down 5 to 6 inches, but on mine it does not appear so since I have tons of cieling insulation.
One of the most useful vid I have ever seen about vanlife and probably the one ! And the way you made it is really clear and complete for everyone to make its choice regarding to its own needs ! I'm really interested for such a comparaison and retex on fridge, cooking system and drinking water alternatives 🤩
Yes, new video soon. I've been working at Festivals and traveling. I have a vlog (for once) that is ready to be uploaded. Just finishing up with this last Festival and then putting out new content! Vlog is a lot about the Festivals and this entire current trip I'm on now in the North East!
4 3" vents will seem like more air due to higher velocity a 13: fan will put out almost 5x the volume for a given speed and be much quieter in general. Not eve a useful comparison. The freshair looks like the inside unit of the junk 12v ACs.
Sorry this is technically a lot of nonsense. You are comparing totoaly wrong values. Best you delete this video an make a new one. Als durability is probably not correct. What happens with the limescale in the water?
Wrong values? The video helps people make a purchase choice with my honest input of actual experience with both. Plus I'm showing direct video comparisons of each. A person would be fine choosing either fan, the choice is not going to hurt them.
Tons of quick info here on BOTH fans so you can make a decision. This is Part One, showing comparison and detailed description from an actual van lifer, not the company. Pros and Cons to both.
Affiliate Links:
MAXXAIR - amzn.to/3MXnPHC
FRESAIR - fresair.com/affiliate-shop?sld=ryanbell88
You lost me when talking about power. You switched the talking point to efficiency, but when talking about efficiency you never measured air volume and only compared air speed. Air speed is wanted to blow in your face to cool you down but air volume is needed to exchange hot air in the van. I hate to nitpick but as someone who lives in a van myself, efficiency is important and needs to take all parameters of measurement in to account. None the less its a pretty sweet fan.
A very fair point! I messaged Fresair to get the units of air flow. They responded, but it seemed to be slightly different unit of measure from the Maxxair that I could find. I'll do the math and pin it in my pinned comment and video description. It might end up being the only place online you can find the answer. Fresair had to message the maker to get the answer and still only one number that represents the air flow at max power.
So still trying to figure it out. I emailed them back for clarification, but until they respond, this is what they have said so far:
Maxxair advertises that max power puts out 900 CFM
Fresair emailed me this:
"The only information we were able to obtain is for the Fresair on the highest setting - CFM / CRM: 400m(cubed) per hour."
CFM stands for cubic feet per minute. But they said theirs is per hour? So I am confused and can't find a decent answer online.
If this was really per hour, and not per minute, then that would seem to me to be completely off. Their response was just confusing. Maybe it's just 400 CFM total per minute, but I would still question it given the velocity of the air flow from 4 jets. Although the Maxxair is a bigger radius overall. Their answer just confuses me more. Anyone know if there is an extra calculation to equate the two numbers?
@@OutdoorsEmbrace I think the maxxair puts out 275 CFM on lowest so 900 on high sounds right. I couldn't find any info on fresair either.
This comparison brought to you by today's sponsor Fresair. lol
Actually no, they did give me some money off, but I did not sugar coat anything for them. I have no contract with them and don't care if they get sales. They didn't even ask me to make a video or hold me to it. This was a completely honest comparison. I also make pretty much nothing from affiliate links, so I'm really not even concerned about that either. I legit made this video knowing it wouldn't make me money, but I did so to help people understand the difference and just how little wind a Maxxair actually puts out. That was the big one for me. Everyone is getting the Maxxair just because it's the thing to do, they don't realize just how little wind is being put out. That said, the Fresair is in an odd part of the market, too expensive for most people who just want a fan. I think there is more opportunity for someone to come in and make a much better fan at a way cheaper price without it having to run water through it for air cooling. But some people out west are going to want the Fresair, it makes sense for these people the most. Still I'm not going to use the water cooling, yet I would buy it all over again. I'll probably never use a Maxxair myself again, although I do not think they are bad fans, just better out there for a little more money.
Let's see....one is over a thousand dollars and the other is three hundred. Hmmmn. Wait one can actually cool the temperature but then again you have to move to Arizona or another hot "dry" climate for it to work. LOL! Plus I never heard of Fresair so don't really have a real review of it's durability or longevity. TBH, Both are way overpriced. Here's a video that shows a 'fan hack' with a $20 box fan that could easily be rotated in or out....ruclips.net/video/0hbvA1_Nx7E/видео.html and it fits the preexisting escape hatch. Although you may need to come up with a magnetic screen hack or bugs. You're welcome budget bus buddies.
I got 2 Maxxairfan deluxe. I'd add that 2 Maxxairfans are critical in maximizing airflow, specifically if you don't have windows--one fan sucks air in and the other sucks air out. The sweet spot is probably combining the swamp cooler with a Maxxairfan. Also, fan placement is important, install one of the fans right above your bed.
As long as you don't mind not really feeling the air, maxxair fans do move more air overall than most fans
Not sure what kind of ac you plan to put under your bed, but there is a fairly new ac option I would consider. It's a backpack mini split 12 volt. You mount the backpack outside unit to the rear door and the blower unit on the inside of the same door. They appear to be about $800..
got a link or a name?
@@Monstufpud search for mini split 12v on a van, I've found quite a few. 1st I did backpack mini split 12v in Google/amazon truck/rv mini split came up, maybe that's what he's talking about since that's what people installed. 🤷🏾♀️
@@Monstufpudcheck out Nomad Brad. His box truck has it, I believe. And he likes to be in and around a deserts.
If I’m putting 2 fans on my roof plus an AC unit? Would it be over kill to have 2 fans or could I get away with having 1 fan?
Is it overkill to install one of each type? I love the power of Fresair but also want the reversability of Maxxair.
It wouldn't be completely overkill if you have the money. I too miss the reversibility of the Maxxair at times (for cooking).
Thankfully, I'm already subscribed. My mother lives another day!
But...can you reverse the Fresair?
No and it's the biggest downside in my opinion. I still have to add an exhast fan in here soon.
The max can be use when cooking so you don’t get this kitchen odor
This was a very good video.
Thank you! I always try to just get to the point and not waste your time!
If you have $1500 .. a 12v/24v AC.. it will require at least a 12v 400 ah / 24v 200 ah battery bank
Another epic video that I am planning on putting to good use! Unrelated question: What are your thoughts on gas vs diesel for vans? Should I consider diesel at all? Or only look for gas powered engines? I’m looking to get a Ford Transit 350 max length if possible.
So love the choice in van! Diesel vs Gas, for the maintenance, gas is better. You do get better fuel economy with diesel, but it kinda costs more now anyway... so that is up to you.
With a diesel you can install a diesel heater directly to your fuel tank, which I did. Gas, you just need an extra tank for diesel.
I would have been fine with a gas engine too. But diesel comes with a cool factor too.
Watch out for the DPF filter and exhaust system on the diesels. They can be a pain to replace and cost a lot! This alone holds some back from buying one! But if mine goes bad, I'm just going to straight pipe delete it (illegal). This will give me like 10 more MPG and way more power.
Dawg, that ending still cracks me up!!! I actually believe that you would kill my mom, you sound dead-fucking-serious. You are creative sir.
Haha, well I got at least one positive comment about the end now! Some people were saying they were going to unsub because it was corny, but honestly I was like "oh I need and ending" and I just picked up my camera and recorded it, first thing that came to mind while filming. Wasn't planned to say it at all haha. It just happened and I thought it was funny to keep it in.
IDK man, Although this is supposed to be a simple comparison from a real Van Lifer, it sounds to me like you have a deal with "Fresair" as this video seemed completely biased towards them?! I'm curious if you'd be willing to go on record and say you have absolutely no affiliation with them and you have never received any 'perks' from them? What you quickly 'breezed' over (lol) was the fact that the Maxxair was nice and flush to the ceiling whereas the Fresair was a concussion waiting to happen. 💥🥴 *Unless of course you had a roof raise. (Most don't) Also the Fresair is BLACK which is a total eye sore. I've watched hundreds of skoolie videos and have yet to see a black ceiling. So not only is it a hazard physically but it's also an assault to the aesthetics of 99% of the builds out there. Just saying.
They did give me some money off, but I did not sugar coat anything for them. I have no contract with them and don't care if they get sales. They didn't even ask me to make a video or hold me to it. This was a completely honest comparison and I legit think the Fresair is really this good. They even have a new white version. Yes, it hangs lower and I really should have mentioned this a bit more. It doesn't really effect me in my van because I can walk under it and still stand straight, I'm 6'3". I also make pretty much nothing from affiliate links, so I'm really not even concerned about that either. I legit made this video knowing it wouldn't make me money, but I did so to help people understand the difference and just how little wind a Maxxair actually puts out. That was the big one for me. Everyone is getting the Maxxair just because it's the thing to do, they don't realize just how little wind is being put out. That said, the Fresair is in an odd part of the market, too expensive for most people who just want a fan. I think there is more opportunity for someone to come in and make a much better fan at a way cheaper price without it having to run water through it for air cooling. But some people out west are going to want the Fresair, it makes sense for these people the most. Still I'm not going to use the water cooling, yet I would buy it all over again. I'll probably never use a Maxxair myself again, although I do not think they are bad fans, just better out there for a little more money.
When it comes to it, the fresair actually has me sleep comfortably in hot weather. The maxxair could never do this for me. Sleep is the most important thing in my life. This is why Fresair wins in my mind, not because they gave me some money off. I paid $1000 plus shipping, no other deals were made.
how far along are you with the new van? can't wait to see it
Next video will show all the newest progress in a "half van build tour"!
This is great info, thank you man! Question: does the Fresair require specifically cold water for its evaporative cooling function or does the temperature of the water you're routing from your existing tank not matter in this case?
I really think warmish water will work just fine.
Oh right on. I just went and looked at their website and they said that "thermal sensation" (perceived air temperature?) would only be minimally different if you put ice in the resevoir; thus, it is ultimately unnecessary to do. If that's true, then that's a total pro for Fresair!
We have both and we’re disappointed with the Fresair. It’s mounted over the bed and simply doesn’t cool enough, unless you are lying directly under it. Even using fans, including our Maxxair, to move the cooler air forward, doesn’t help. My other complaint is there’s no way to know how full the water tank is. A light comes on when it’s low, but beyond that, guesswork.
Whate AC unit are you installing under your bench?
EcoFlow Wave 2 is what I'm currently thinking about.
Dawg! Great video, and great editing as well!
Great topic, I was wondering about fan/air conditioner stuff. I like the idea of having AC, but it's difficult to actually have it due to power constraints. Even though the Fresair is nice, I will probably go with Maxxair so I can blow cooking smells as well as my anal gasses outside the living space.
Also, the ending for your video was hilarious. I love that shit.
I'm hugely loving the Fresair! It's very nice low power way to stay cool even on low power modes.
I found an AC system that is low power and lower output overall, but actually might be best for most vanners since we usually don't ever have enough room for enough solar to keep up with normal compressors. A video on this will probably be put out in two months.
Next video is the big one! A halfway tour of my van. People been asking for it
@@OutdoorsEmbrace Word, can't wait for it! I get pumped when you post new videos bro
I'll stick with my maxx air
How low does the Fresair go inside the van? Looks like I hit my head on it every time.
It comes down 5 to 6 inches. While I did put this in the video, I really should have made a bigger deal about this. It's not an issue for me since I have a tall van and can still stand below my Fresair. But short vans would have a much bigger impact. So I do not recommend this fan for shorter vans!
@@OutdoorsEmbrace Ya, Saw it in your video But seen your build out and it did not look to stick out that much. Ya, my inside height for the Van is only 5'11" My girl stands 5'11" flat footed so with boots she 6'1" to 6"2"
@prophetseven728 you could always mount it closer to one side of the van, or on a part of the roof where you will be less likely to hit it on your head from below. It will come down 5 to 6 inches, but on mine it does not appear so since I have tons of cieling insulation.
Good too know thank you
One of the most useful vid I have ever seen about vanlife and probably the one ! And the way you made it is really clear and complete for everyone to make its choice regarding to its own needs ! I'm really interested for such a comparaison and retex on fridge, cooking system and drinking water alternatives 🤩
that is called a swamp cooler
It's been a little while..
Yes, new video soon. I've been working at Festivals and traveling. I have a vlog (for once) that is ready to be uploaded. Just finishing up with this last Festival and then putting out new content! Vlog is a lot about the Festivals and this entire current trip I'm on now in the North East!
That’s nice to hear! Can’t wait to see the content and vlog!
My max air is ok but was very disappointing compared to what some RUclips creators claimed
Get both!
Awesome info...... wow!
I'll just pay the 1500+ to sleep comfortable at night.
Exactly. Sleep is the most important part of the van build. Bed and air over night matter the most to keep you sane over the time spent in the van.
4 3" vents will seem like more air due to higher velocity a 13: fan will put out almost 5x the volume for a given speed and be much quieter in general. Not eve a useful comparison. The freshair looks like the inside unit of the junk 12v ACs.
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Sorry this is technically a lot of nonsense. You are comparing totoaly wrong values. Best you delete this video an make a new one. Als durability is probably not correct. What happens with the limescale in the water?
Wrong values? The video helps people make a purchase choice with my honest input of actual experience with both. Plus I'm showing direct video comparisons of each. A person would be fine choosing either fan, the choice is not going to hurt them.