Team B's performance blew me away. I didn't see trainees. I saw passionate professionals rockin their performance. I know A team wins...I just hope Team B stays together and debuts soon.
확실히 저때는 제가 a팀을 응원했음에도 실력을 떠나서 b팀무대가 뭔가 나도 즐길 수 있는 느낌이고 a팀은 약간 자기들이 억눌린 느낌이었는데 요즘 위너보니까 왜 그런지 알겠네요 확실히 a팀이랑 곡분위기가 안맞아요 yg라는 회사특성때문에 너무 힙합으로 밀고 갔는데 요즘 곡 보면 좀 더 곡이 라이트한(?)느낌이네요 거기다 저땐 나이도 b팀보다 많고 팀웍도 완전하지 않은 상황이었고ㅠㅠ 근데 팀웍도 좋아지고 자신감을 가지니까 뒤로 갈수록 느낌이 사는게 보여요
Wow...Hanbin's energy is crazy good...he doesn't seem like a trainee....his expressions and movements when he performs...is just amazing....and he was only 16 years old! Wow....and great leadership skills...he was a perfectionist and made Team B practice until it was perfect
I am glad team B become iKON. Team a just belong to be Winner and Team b belong to be iKON. I can't imagine of team B become Winner. Btw I watch this because iKON. They are the first YG I stand. Saranghe iKON. Hwaiting!!!!
I love this episode. When YG announced that they are gonna compete with JYP trainees, you can already see the difference between B.I and the others. GD sees B.I as the young GD...and YG also tags B.I as the next GD.
team b's dance is like wow. they nailed the dance here. but team a nailed the singing part of the battle. hands down to both teams. they're really talented and amazing.
Im always amaze by Ikon's brotherhood..They probably make a good teamwork.. They know how to enjoy the stage with each other in group indeed.. Thats what makes Team B better than Team A.. Till now they are truly bestfriend even Bobby and June are awkward with each other but we know that they love each other.. Its sad knowing that they didnt win against Team A but at the same time im glad they become an Ikon and Chanwoo get into the group.. Im glad that they are Ikon that i love now.. Im glad that they now get what they deserve.. Btw they got their first Daesang.. Im so proud..!
When Junhoe and Donghyuk fought I kept wondering why B.I wasn't stepping up like he used to or why he wasn't reacting but when I found out it was because it was a prank it all made sense hahaha (PS such a jerk for imitating Jinhwan hahahaha I still love you though) And there was wayyyy too many coincidences for Team A in this episode.... The Winner flyer given out the tarot card.... Should've known...
It might sound a bit mean, but I actually wanted to see Junhoe and Donghyuk fight. Lol, Junhwe is taller but Donghyuk has more muscles so I think it will be an even fight.
SO I PAUSED THE VID RIGHT WHEN DK WALKED AWAY BCS I CANT!!!! THE TENSION'S TOO MUCH SO I DECIDED, OKAY LETS READ SOME COMMENTS FIRST.... THEN I SAW THIS.... I 'VE BEEN SPOILED AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
This is the episode that made me decide that I was Team B all the way, then I lost interest for everything else. I started watching all other episodes only for Team B.
One week ago I discovered Bobby, watched all his performances and he became my ultimate bias. Then I started to stan iKon and watched all their live performances, iKonTV, yesterday I watched all survival show episodes. Omg these boys went though a lot. I’m in tears. In the next show Bobby’s participating in two shows SMTM and Mix&Match, while BI having so many responsibilities on his shoulders like too much for his age. He’s the best leader for sure! And they’re really a team. Strong leader Hanbin, peacemaker Jay, moodmaker swaggest Bobby, and their younger brothers who blend so well with them. iKon just needed a good management from YG’s side. iKon deserves the whole world!
YG ruined both the group.They both had so much potential but he only cared about cash. Instead of expanding the fan base by giving them comebacks both were shipped off to japan for tours for a good 1-1.5 year.Kpop is so competitive.Every year new groups are making their debut and yg was like no I just need money from tours.And in that hiatus they lost so many fans...I wouldn’t even blame taehyun for leaving that shit company....Both the groups had been treated like a piece of shit and cashcows.Would be the happiest day of my life when winner and ikon leaves that company and get to do more music which bdw is their main job.Corona is a karma for YG.Ygs main income comes through tours and I hope YG got a reality check on how imp it is to give their artist comeback.
"... it feels as if they're singing a song that isn't theirs ..." - YG to Team A (Winner) This is because Winner's color is indeed rarely different 💙💙💙
Feel glad that I watch this show after I get into iKon these days. I can't even emagine watching this show and my baby team B lose. I might broken. But since both ream are already debut, I think it's good that team B are debuted later with chanwoo ofc.
Hahahahahaha I know!! I noticed too, It's his fault for opening his mouth too soon without even get to meet Team B. After he saw them I feel like he realized he messed up :'D
Now that I see this I get everything happens for a reason I honestly couldn't see team b as winner and now knowing they are going to be ikon it just seems meant to be!
@@lizmartin6995 so you're saying at today's date WINNER is bad at making music?? Yes agreed during WIN team B was better but now ikon have their own style and WINNER have their own style in making music both are so different from each other yet so talented in today's date you cannot compare them because both the teams are totally different from each other so it's not fair to say ikon is better than WINNER or WINNER is better than ikon
@@lizmartin6995 ikon only got famous because of love scenario on the other hand winner has full discography of great songs and winner also sells more album than ikon
The tarot card reader was telling the truth WINNER became one of the famous kpop group also ikon watching this show again in 2018 make me so proud the im a huge fan of this two group!
Watching how much have these boys improve I just can't believe it... im so proud of them. so proud of Winner and also proud of Team B. Team B will shine too it's just a matter of time, sooner or later they will debut. Now, it's Winner's time ;)
Tablo made a promise to Team A, but picked Team B. He was so embarrassed that he hide behind the sign. I think this will be a lesson for him. Think before you speak!!!
I really felt bad for Team A because Tablo-hyung didn't keep his promise that they had his vote. 😔 But I understand why Tablo had picked Team B at the same time... Tablo-hyung, never do this again okay? 😄
It's refreshing to see how iKon dance like this, how good they really are. It awes me everytime.. Hoping to see more of their hiphop side again soon! Because why not? They really are good at it. When i watch IKON tv and their variety shows now. It amazes me how can these kids be dorks but super talented at the same time. 😅😅
This might just be me, but is anyone else a little big irritated by YG's constant comparing members to Big Bang?? Don't get me wrong, I am a huge fan of Big Bang, Winner and iKon; but the comparing is making me feel like Winner and iKon are always going to be shadowed by BB...
+thelonebassplayer i am a vip and i also hate when he compare i mean there will always be one bigbang he is like forcing them to be the next bigbang instead of letting them be themselves i am so glad that winner are original and unique and do not try to copy bigbang they said they want to be the first winner which is why i admire them..
well they will always be compared to other groups. if not big bang then others and that is the reality for all new idol groups. and that's okay because they will always be motivated to up their level or even surpass it.
Its because that dumbfuck wants to create another BigBang in hopes of the new group recieving as much popularity as them. But its a shit strategy because one cannot expect to repeat the same formula with completely different people
Big Bang is literally so huge, no matter how many achievements many groups (even other companies included) are getting, Big Bang was that group that left the mark of kpop in the whole world (yes, super junior and a few others too) but we all know why Big Bang is what it is. They were just trainees at this point and to motivate them they use/compare them. If you've seen other survival shows like this you'll know that it's all the same, the process, the training, the evaluations (just these guys have a lottt better dorms than most small company groups after debut ones) I mean yeah it's wrong to always overshadow these talented boys by BB (when tbh they are almost just like BB in terms of talent maybe even better at dancing lol) we all know that there are a few groups which are more talented than some other groups but they are always talented and tbh it's all fate who gets famous, from these shows we can see how hard they work and how the improve over time.
Just looking at the way Jinhwan reacted when Junhoe follows Donghyuk out of the door during the prank tells me that they've fought badly before ahahahahaa~~ still love them though.
Wow. Reading through this comment section shows THE ESSENCE of iKON’s journey. It is a constant rollercoaster. 1. People that commented straight after WIN say they feel bad for them and hope they can debut soon. THEN 2. People that commented after their debut are happy that it actually turned out great in the end. THEN 3. People that commented around 2017 feel sad for their ‘flop of a comeback’ after being shipped off to Japan and as a result losing most of their fanbase in Korea. THEN 4. People that commented in 2018 - iKON’s year! Love Scenario, Killing Me, I’m OK, numerous awards, iKON TV... truly happy for how it turned out despite their tough journey. THEN 5. People that commented after B.I’s departure are really sad and worried about the future of iKON. THEN 6. Finally, people like me that comment after WWW and are happy to see them get back on their feet again. Kingdom starts today and we hope they will again get the recognition they deserve. I really hope number 7. on my list will be people being happy for them again after success in Kingdom and perhaps reuniting with B.I after leaving YG in 2022 :p
As mean as YG can get, you just cant help but being touched when he prepared the meal and message for the team who lost. Like, how encouraging that must have felt for them!
I think the reason Team A became the Winner is because they struggled so much in the beginning. They lost, cried, and worked even harder. That's why we felt their feelings more.
I love how Jinhwan maintained his calm during the turmoil between June and Donghyuk. He even asks the crew not to film further. And man, I never felt so nervous seeing the two fight like that. I am a new iKonic and seeing this is just crazy. 😥😰 EDITED: *AND WHEN I THOUGHT...* *MAN I GOT PRANKED WITH JINHWAN.* HAHAHAHA.
Team B which is iKON will surely have a beautiful performance. Having B.I as their leader and the members are so talented. They are not just a team but a brothers.
People keep saying that team b is the next Bigbang, bigbang can't dance like that neither did they has the same music style iKon is different in their own way
idk why but I feel like Winner has more of a BigBang feel, well especially bigbang in the later years, and the music varies. But iKon - Winner and BigBang are all different.
지금 보면 강승윤이야말로 빅뱅의 태양같은 느낌이다. 팀의 리더로서 작사 작곡 편곡에. 뭘 하든 팀을 먼저 생각하고 팬들이 어디가서 강승윤을 좋아한다는게 부끄럽지 않게 하려고 계속해서 노력하고 또 노력하고. 항상 열심히 하고. 진짜 강승윤은 찐이다. 이번 솔로 활동 하는거 보면서 승윤이가 얼마나 진실된 사람인지 다시 느꼈다. 강승윤 오래가자!! 위너 오래가자!! 사랑해💙
I really enjoyed watching WIN after both groups have had their debut. This show was so intense and I'm so glad for both of them and their success especially after seeing how hard both teams trained! YG is the best at finding and honing great talent. I have a soft spot for Ikon though, love those guys so much! Especially the original 3. Bobby puts a smile on my face, B.I. is like on his own level and such a fantastic leader and Jinhwan is just adorable. But I love the rest of Ikon too and really enjoy Winner as well. Amazing amazing show, thank you YG.
I like team A ' s style but team B is deabak...team B's performance is breath taking..i regret not being able to watch it before winner's debut😭. This survival battle is the coolest...YG sure is full of talented artist. Still, despite knowing who won It's still nice to watch the competition and both team's hard work. I'm waiting for ikon's debut...I'll support winner too but, right now I need to finish watching the competition, winnerTV , their mv's...in short I need to learn more about the group winner😅.
ins. win truth is, TEAM B as a whole is great. But what makes TEAM A special is that every member has their own individual ability and unique skill. They overcame that through the competition and now, as WINNER they are DAEBAK!!! Do you agree??
I am very proud of my iKON, young and wild. Leader B.I, you are the best! My Yunhyeong, you have improved a lot. iKON will be the next BigBang. All the best for WINNER too. Peace.
What I like from the very beginning between the two groups is that Team B has this sense of one-ness, of being and moving as one unit, whereas Team A has this sense of distinctiveness--each person is unique but somehow, finds a harmonious place in the group. Neither is better than the other, but the reception will depend on the preference of the viewer.
노래 자체가 신나지가 않은데 어떻게 신나게 하라는거지 그리고 저런 힘든 서바이벌 프로그램이 있으면 애들이 쉬면서 하게 하지..저렇게 병행군도 하게 하고 스케줄도 조절하면서 하게 해주지..몸이 몸이 아닌데 저렇게 까지 하냐..물론 데뷔도 중요한데 저렇게꺼지 시키냐.. 화이팅!! 위너 사룽해용😍
I really love how YG handles everything! He never let anyone feels bad. I was also touches when he prepared something to cheer the Team A up. He's a great CEO!
I'm a new iKONIC and I have to say that I would have never thought that team b would have fought (junhoe & donghyuk) I've always thought they got along well and have a great chemistry and teamwork from what I've seen in iKON TV...these 2 dorks got me too. Poor jinanie 😅 #Dongdong being a pro actor to start a fight (1st with junhoe and then with chanwoo) he needs to start his acting career soon
They are really good... imo they were too good it got to them... like they got too overconfident and they weren't as desperate as team a.. i think that was their downfall.
machi923 Are u kidding me? What kind of logic is that? If u don't noticed, Team B never won the voting. It doesn't matter how good they are, if the other team has overwhelmingly popular members. Team A/Winner was already immensely popular before the show started because of Seungyoon. They also had more screen time especially in the first 3 episodes. So right from the start, YG was already leaning for Team A/Winner to win. He probably just wanted to do the program so that Team B will get TV exposure and people would recognize them when they debut in the future
Jinhwan got into my heart. He's such a nice considerate guy always helping his team members. But when Donghyuk and Junhoe fought, he turned into a manly serious (but not furious) little man ^^
I think this whole thing was already planned that team a should be Winner and team b would be iKon. YG cannot just disband both teams because they have so much potentials.
I don't know why I always end up crying after watching every episode. This show is truly inspiring and I really admire YG's strictness and being straightforward to his trainees, even though his comments are really harsh it will really keep them motivated. YG is really great in handling his artists.
This was the time Jinhwan became my bias. On the 2nd ep, I was already rooting for Team B. I feel more connected with them. It just intensifies every episode
Team B always with their hidden camera pranks. I just rewatched ikon TV and Jinhwan got his revenge for pranking him in this program. iKON is still struggling even in Kingdom and it just breaks my heart. They are insanely talented. All they need is a little bit of luck. iKONics are always with you. If you guys disband, change companies, go solo, iKONICS will always be there for you.
Team A lovers and Team B lovers !!! why r u guys bashing against one team ?! I seriously have no idea why u guys have to be this way BOTH are amazing I love both and I have biases in both !! Don't u guys remember that they both used to train WITH EACH OTHER they're like brothers !! this competition is already over and if it wasn't we wouldn't have WINNER or IKON !!! I think it was nice to see how much they worked hard for !! This was not only to show us a competition but to show us that the trainees worked rlly rlly hard for their debut !! And look where Team A is now :) team B is debuting this yr or the next idk when but they are !!! And I'm so happy for both !!! U guys should be too why does it matter who won if both get to debut and live their dream I'm all for it !! there's no need to argue over who was better because we all know both groups are amazing, funny, hot, and talented !! I just hope we all could be friends and that we could fangirl about KPOP and WINKON together !!! :) Fighting WINNER !!! Fighting IKON !!! Fighting YG LOVERS !! Fighting everyone !! 😉👌🏼 edit: wow did I love exclamation marks or what LOL also when I used to use hwaiting 😬
I have been going backwards with iKON journey.. I fell in love with them watching a 2019 variety show and have been binge watching all theirs shows and videos.. I have watched almost everything except WIN.. I didn’t want to watch it since I know they don’t win and it’s painful to see B.I’s hard work knowing that iKON OT7 is no more.. But since I had exhausted everything else I decided to watch their beginning and cry with them .. MIND BLOWN by team B.. they are professionals ready to rock the stage.. No one other than B.I could hav pulled this off.. he is a hardworking genius! iKON has been through so much and they deserve so much more than they hav now.. if only they had debuted in 2013 and didn’t hav the pressure of debut would things hav been easier on B.I.. would he be in a better place now.. I have thought this countless no of times.. it jus makes me so sad to think about wat could hav been..
I feel like I'm the only one who actually likes ikon more than winner.. and the rest of ikons fans are just winner stans who support them because of this show
Not at all hehe I'm an iKonic who has many Inner Circle friends, so at the time when I was only a focused VIP for years, and the fanwars started I was kind of bias of course towards Winner, so I decided to watch WIN and made an opinion by myself, after watching the whole show I was 100% sure I' was a Team B stan, but the show also made me respect and aprecciate Winner a lot. So now I'm a happy iKonic (and VIP) whose friends had to calm down and I also support Winner and IC, but IKON FOREVER :)
I've always been a fan of both groups' music but never got into them. My best told me to get into them because she LOOOVES Winner. I've always liked Ikon more by a little bit! Ikon's performance and sound is more of my taste! But watching both of them on WIN, I'm loving both more and more! :')
I'm here.. i like ikon more than winner.. they were younger than winner members.. but they were confident and did their best with great team work.. they also had fun too.. winner is also talented and that's good they win this survival. because they are elder than team b if would they lost their dreams might be ruined.. but while looking mix and match i got that how stronger and talented team b are.. and ikon is destined to have our chanwoo that's why they lost.. (sorry for my english)
Ikon and Blackpink are my everything Never apologize for your english. You showed effort to write in English and thats great! Btw I'm an iKONIC too. Im somewhat glad that team A won this. iKON wouldn't be complete without chanwoo
Palekia 95 from the comments you could say that they are predominantly fans of team a/winner but I'm watching this because I recently give in and wanted to learn more about ikon after knowing Bobby 💞 I honestly didn't want to know more about ikon since I'm OK stanning BB but I ended up watching ikonTV and then this, will watch M&M next :) I actually just saw the face behind the name Winner now :)) Although I would have to agree on the comments that not all of Team B stands out :( Song being the one with the least impact.
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위너는 저때 ㄹㅇ 남의 옷 입고 있는 느낌이었음, 데뷔후 그룹 색이 훨 잘 어울림. 특히 김진우, 그 미모가 살려면 데뷔 전 저 컨셉은 ㄴㄴ 릴리릴리때랑 밀리언즈때 존나 왕자님 같았음 ㅠㅠㅠ 카메라 잡힐 때마다 숨멎
위너는 릴리부터가 찐 맞다고 생각해요
인정 인정. 위너=으른청량 이라는 공식과 더불어 위너팝을 만들어냈지. 미모에도 물이 올랐고. 진짜 릴리릴리부터가 지금 위너의 완성인듯!
ㅇㅈ 솔직히 저 멤버로 어느 소속사 가도 잘 됐을듯 강승윤이 작사 작곡 다 하니깐.. 오히려 다른 소속사 갔으면 더 잘됐을거 같음 와이지 때문에 공백기 오졌잖아
그 와중에도 송민호랑 강승윤은 남의 옷을 소화해냄
ㄹㅇ 둘은 진짜 인재인듯
윈은 그냥 레전드다 a팀 무대보면 내 멘탈까지 떨리는 느낌이고 b팀은 저 상황에서도 무대를 즐기는게 존나 대단함
이런거 보다가 보석함 보니까 미치겠지 양현석ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ위너 아이콘 잘해줘라 제발 진짜로 공식물품 똑같은 것도 너무하다
어렸을땐 그냥 재밌게 봤었는데 커보니까 알겠다. 지금의 나보다도 어린 나이인 저 친구가 여럿의 인생을 책임지고 끌어갔다니.. 진짜 대단했구나
어떻게 win 은 다시보고 또봐도 긴장감 넘치게 재밌는건지 ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
그니까요~!!!!!!방송 할때도 정주행 했는데 2019년 또 보로 왔어요~!!!!!!ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
B.I-_- while the others are in mental brokedown about the battle against JYP... B.I is excited about it xD
강승윤은 2회때 송민호한테 충고하는 것도 그렇고 의상준비 혼자하고 의상공개하는거 잔소리하고 그냥 이때부터 리더네ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Team B's performance blew me away. I didn't see trainees. I saw passionate professionals rockin their performance. I know A team wins...I just hope Team B stays together and debuts soon.
Well they did debut as ikon
And I am probably very late to tell it to you.
Their performance is just 🔥 the song tho is lit! They need songs like that!
that would have been great if they stayed together:/
True the charisma
확실히 저때는 제가 a팀을 응원했음에도 실력을 떠나서 b팀무대가 뭔가 나도 즐길 수 있는 느낌이고 a팀은 약간 자기들이 억눌린 느낌이었는데 요즘 위너보니까 왜 그런지 알겠네요 확실히 a팀이랑 곡분위기가 안맞아요 yg라는 회사특성때문에 너무 힙합으로 밀고 갔는데 요즘 곡 보면 좀 더 곡이 라이트한(?)느낌이네요 거기다 저땐 나이도 b팀보다 많고 팀웍도 완전하지 않은 상황이었고ㅠㅠ 근데 팀웍도 좋아지고 자신감을 가지니까 뒤로 갈수록 느낌이 사는게 보여요
그래도 역시 실력은 B팀 !
@@이엽-v9o A팀 칭찬하는 글에 이렇게 말하시는게 좋게 보이지는 않네요
A팀이 나이가 약간 많아서인지 뭔가 항상 뒤쳐져보였는데
그래도 인지도가 있어서 우승한듯
지금 봐도 개잘해... 육발칠발 레전드
I like how B.I takes on whatever comes in. He is so competitive and hardworking! :)
Wow...Hanbin's energy is crazy good...he doesn't seem like a trainee....his expressions and movements when he performs...is just amazing....and he was only 16 years old! Wow....and great leadership skills...he was a perfectionist and made Team B practice until it was perfect
지금 2021년에 이걸 보는사람은 없겠지 그냥 이때가 그리워서 다시 봐봤다,,
저두
나두
2022년에 보는 사람🙌
2022년....
@@zin7380 me
I don't know why but I keep replaying the Donghyuk and Junhoe prank scene
same😂
김동혁 me too. hahaha
Same here bc imma fan of DK 😻
OMG! I almost die!! hahahahahaha :'D
And jay take a revenge on ikon tv :))
I am glad team B become iKON. Team a just belong to be Winner and Team b belong to be iKON. I can't imagine of team B become Winner. Btw I watch this because iKON. They are the first YG I stand. Saranghe iKON. Hwaiting!!!!
Yeah...i want them to win but the name WINNER doesn't suit them😊
Yeah. iKon suit them better.saranghae ikon!
SAME FEELS I HAD
it feels awkward just to imagine it. imagine bobby dancing really really now if they become winner 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@fazindaeyo1501 hahaha...
아이돌이 성공하려면 외모나 실력보다 매력싸움이다 진짜... 기본적인 선만 넘어서면 누가 잘하냐 보다 누가 매력있느냐가 중요함
너희들 진짜 열심히 했구나
너무 대단하고 멋지다는 생각밖에 안든다
I love this episode. When YG announced that they are gonna compete with JYP trainees, you can already see the difference between B.I and the others. GD sees B.I as the young GD...and YG also tags B.I as the next GD.
and Jinhwan is Taeyang, they are ultimately Bigbang Jr, we hope to see a brighter future for them from 2022.
I love so much team B. Especially B.I's leadership is unbelievable.
Very sad he leave 😢 I really hope he come back to ikon because they are family 🙏🏻😭❤️
@@no1likecaptain yeah keep praying
@@no1likecaptain i hope so :(
such a talented man
강승윤목소리쩔음
team b's dance is like wow. they nailed the dance here. but team a nailed the singing part of the battle. hands down to both teams. they're really talented and amazing.
BOBBY IS SOOO CUTE OMGGGG HIS LIKE THE CUTEST EVER EYES TEETH FAE BODY HAHAHHAHA AND HIS RAPPINH SKILLS R THE BEST IN MY OPINION
Same
Im always amaze by Ikon's brotherhood..They probably make a good teamwork.. They know how to enjoy the stage with each other in group indeed.. Thats what makes Team B better than Team A.. Till now they are truly bestfriend even Bobby and June are awkward with each other but we know that they love each other..
Its sad knowing that they didnt win against Team A but at the same time im glad they become an Ikon and Chanwoo get into the group.. Im glad that they are Ikon that i love now.. Im glad that they now get what they deserve.. Btw they got their first Daesang.. Im so proud..!
I think that Hanbin is the only one that can wear a flower jacket while rapping and still look serious
At least the subtitles are better in sync...
*last
River Olpindii
Now the subtitle is gone
@@aydenia3606 it's there
@@Alexandra31T hahaha after watching it halfway, I notice there were some mistakes and the subtitles were already back there. Hehe
When Junhoe and Donghyuk fought I kept wondering why B.I wasn't stepping up like he used to or why he wasn't reacting but when I found out it was because it was a prank it all made sense hahaha (PS such a jerk for imitating Jinhwan hahahaha I still love you though)
And there was wayyyy too many coincidences for Team A in this episode.... The Winner flyer given out the tarot card.... Should've known...
my thoughts EXACTLY! you're so right lol
It might sound a bit mean, but I actually wanted to see Junhoe and Donghyuk fight. Lol, Junhwe is taller but Donghyuk has more muscles so I think it will be an even fight.
Omg same 😂😂😂
SO I PAUSED THE VID RIGHT WHEN DK WALKED AWAY BCS I CANT!!!! THE TENSION'S TOO MUCH SO I DECIDED, OKAY LETS READ SOME COMMENTS FIRST.... THEN I SAW THIS.... I 'VE BEEN SPOILED AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
B팀 아기들 다 뽀송뽀송 말랑말랑... 다섯명 다 너무 애기다 이때는.. 나이만 봐도 애기는 맞지만 그냥 뭔가 지금 생각하면 애기들 많이 컸구나 싶고
This is the episode that made me decide that I was Team B all the way, then I lost interest for everything else. I started watching all other episodes only for Team B.
And now I rewatching this because i do really miss Kim Hanbin 🥺😭
And I'm watching it for the first time coz I love iKON :)
@@missnomiya same with me, i miss him so bad
Wahhh me too
Me tooo :D
B.I really made conspiracy with his group just to make fun with Jin Hwan. Feel so sorry for him. Aigoo!! B.I or Hanbin is really a cute leader.
One week ago I discovered Bobby, watched all his performances and he became my ultimate bias. Then I started to stan iKon and watched all their live performances, iKonTV, yesterday I watched all survival show episodes. Omg these boys went though a lot. I’m in tears. In the next show Bobby’s participating in two shows SMTM and Mix&Match, while BI having so many responsibilities on his shoulders like too much for his age. He’s the best leader for sure! And they’re really a team. Strong leader Hanbin, peacemaker Jay, moodmaker swaggest Bobby, and their younger brothers who blend so well with them. iKon just needed a good management from YG’s side. iKon deserves the whole world!
YG ruined both the group.They both had so much potential but he only cared about cash. Instead of expanding the fan base by giving them comebacks both were shipped off to japan for tours for a good 1-1.5 year.Kpop is so competitive.Every year new groups are making their debut and yg was like no I just need money from tours.And in that hiatus they lost so many fans...I wouldn’t even blame taehyun for leaving that shit company....Both the groups had been treated like a piece of shit and cashcows.Would be the happiest day of my life when winner and ikon leaves that company and get to do more music which bdw is their main job.Corona is a karma for YG.Ygs main income comes through tours and I hope YG got a reality check on how imp it is to give their artist comeback.
I love you Team B.. it hurts to watch this show again but theres nowhere else I can watch or see you.. hope you will debut soon.. I miss you so mch..
Chie Arb And now they are IKON😊
"... it feels as if they're singing a song that isn't theirs ..."
- YG to Team A (Winner)
This is because Winner's color is indeed rarely different 💙💙💙
Finally i found comment about winner T.T
Ily IC T•T
Feel glad that I watch this show after I get into iKon these days. I can't even emagine watching this show and my baby team B lose. I might broken. But since both ream are already debut, I think it's good that team B are debuted later with chanwoo ofc.
Seeing how Hanbin and the rrst of iKON had to go through. They really deserve all the love in the world!!! Im sooo proud of my boys...
28:32 김한빈 개귀여워 ㅠㅠ
솔직히 아이콘 ( 비팀 ) 이 때 대박이엿다 ㅠㅠㅠ 육발칠발 짱 ... ♡
ㅇㅈㅇㅈ 위너 데뷔곡도 BI가 썻고 참 대단했다고 생각하네용
TABLO'S BETRAYAL ! xD
Haha that's why he was hiding
Hahahahahaha I know!! I noticed too, It's his fault for opening his mouth too soon without even get to meet Team B. After he saw them I feel like he realized he messed up :'D
HAHAHAHA
Hahaha!😁😂🤣😅
So cuteee😍😂
Now that I see this I get everything happens for a reason I honestly couldn't see team b as winner and now knowing they are going to be ikon it just seems meant to be!
Shawol_love me too I'm kind of happy that they lost because if they didn't they wouldn't have their choco-ball Maknae: Chanwoo
It breaks my heart whenever I rewatched WIN and see what WINNER had to go through
Hailey Dinh and team B (iKon) also pity
it's just team B is way more better than team A honestly. and they proved it until now
@@lizmartin6995 so you're saying at today's date WINNER is bad at making music?? Yes agreed during WIN team B was better but now ikon have their own style and WINNER have their own style in making music both are so different from each other yet so talented in today's date you cannot compare them because both the teams are totally different from each other so it's not fair to say ikon is better than WINNER or WINNER is better than ikon
@@sadiyar4651 an intelectuall said that👏👏👏👏
@@lizmartin6995 ikon only got famous because of love scenario on the other hand winner has full discography of great songs and winner also sells more album than ikon
The tarot card reader was telling the truth WINNER became one of the famous kpop group also ikon watching this show again in 2018 make me so proud the im a huge fan of this two group!
not only jay scare when dk and june is fighting O.o
2019 and still here to watch iKON
It's ok...he got his revenge on iKON TV....kkkk
@Maria i know......
when dk and june is 'prank' jay 😪😒
AWWWW THE CHEER UP BANNER WAS SO TOUCHING! :')
***** it's to make them feel better, not to begrudge them.
***** i know, i know, i should have mentioned them, sorry x
현석이가 앞에서 죽일듯이 노려보고 있는데 즐길수가 있겠냐 ㅋㅋ저 상황에서도 즐기는 B팀이 진짜 대단하긴한듯
전설의 육발칠발 29:40
18:08 귀여움 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
으아 송민호 별모양 무드등 키고 자는거 너무 귀엽다..
Is it just me, or is team B soooo dope
Watching how much have these boys improve I just can't believe it... im so proud of them. so proud of Winner and also proud of Team B. Team B will shine too it's just a matter of time, sooner or later they will debut. Now, it's Winner's time ;)
Tablo made a promise to Team A, but picked Team B. He was so embarrassed
that he hide behind the sign. I think this will be a lesson for him.
Think before you speak!!!
I really felt bad for Team A because Tablo-hyung didn't keep his promise that they had his vote. 😔 But I understand why Tablo had picked Team B at the same time... Tablo-hyung, never do this again okay? 😄
Can't imagine how team A felt
AylinLove92 he shouldve just kept his mouth shut
It's refreshing to see how iKon dance like this, how good they really are. It awes me everytime.. Hoping to see more of their hiphop side again soon! Because why not? They really are good at it.
When i watch IKON tv and their variety shows now. It amazes me how can these kids be dorks but super talented at the same time. 😅😅
well at least both team A and B get to debut
Jin Hwan is really a leader material. Characteristics-wise, he's like Kang Seungyoon of Team A
i guess this aged well in a way
Who else notice Kang Seungyoon was crying during team B performance and still crying after that? Poor boy 😥
This might just be me, but is anyone else a little big irritated by YG's constant comparing members to Big Bang?? Don't get me wrong, I am a huge fan of Big Bang, Winner and iKon; but the comparing is making me feel like Winner and iKon are always going to be shadowed by BB...
+thelonebassplayer i am a vip and i also hate when he compare i mean there will always be one bigbang
he is like forcing them to be the next bigbang instead of letting them be themselves
i am so glad that winner are original and unique and do not try to copy bigbang
they said they want to be the first winner which is why i admire them..
well they will always be compared to other groups. if not big bang then others and that is the reality for all new idol groups. and that's okay because they will always be motivated to up their level or even surpass it.
Its because that dumbfuck wants to create another BigBang in hopes of the new group recieving as much popularity as them. But its a shit strategy because one cannot expect to repeat the same formula with completely different people
Big Bang is literally so huge, no matter how many achievements many groups (even other companies included) are getting, Big Bang was that group that left the mark of kpop in the whole world (yes, super junior and a few others too) but we all know why Big Bang is what it is. They were just trainees at this point and to motivate them they use/compare them. If you've seen other survival shows like this you'll know that it's all the same, the process, the training, the evaluations (just these guys have a lottt better dorms than most small company groups after debut ones) I mean yeah it's wrong to always overshadow these talented boys by BB (when tbh they are almost just like BB in terms of talent maybe even better at dancing lol) we all know that there are a few groups which are more talented than some other groups but they are always talented and tbh it's all fate who gets famous, from these shows we can see how hard they work and how the improve over time.
thelonebassplayer BigBang deserves being an example for hundreds of years. they really REALLY worked hard to become who they are now.
Just looking at the way Jinhwan reacted when Junhoe follows Donghyuk out of the door during the prank tells me that they've fought badly before ahahahahaa~~ still love them though.
비아이가 진짜.. 팀을 잘 이끌긴했네
저 친구 장난 아니었음....
Wow. Reading through this comment section shows THE ESSENCE of iKON’s journey. It is a constant rollercoaster.
1. People that commented straight after WIN say they feel bad for them and hope they can debut soon.
THEN
2. People that commented after their debut are happy that it actually turned out great in the end.
THEN
3. People that commented around 2017 feel sad for their ‘flop of a comeback’ after being shipped off to Japan and as a result losing most of their fanbase in Korea.
THEN
4. People that commented in 2018 - iKON’s year! Love Scenario, Killing Me, I’m OK, numerous awards, iKON TV... truly happy for how it turned out despite their tough journey.
THEN
5. People that commented after B.I’s departure are really sad and worried about the future of iKON.
THEN
6. Finally, people like me that comment after WWW and are happy to see them get back on their feet again. Kingdom starts today and we hope they will again get the recognition they deserve.
I really hope number 7. on my list will be people being happy for them again after success in Kingdom and perhaps reuniting with B.I after leaving YG in 2022 :p
AND NOW HE'S BACCKKK AAAAAAA
And here i am commenting here after 3 years, it’s still tough for them. But no worries, we’re in this rough ride together. iKON ❤ iKONIC
even for now days, i feels more enjoy to watch iKON performaces.They kind have enjoyable vibes. :))
Yoootssss that' true😂
So this is why Jinhwan pulled a prank on iKON memebers in iKONTV. HAHAHA He totally got them after 5 years. 😂😂😂
😂😂he patiently waited for 5yrs to give em' back😂
13cm fairy 😂
Team B choreography is absolutely top notch. The way they did stop in 30:00 - 30:05. Loved it. I could watch it all the time
As mean as YG can get, you just cant help but being touched when he prepared the meal and message for the team who lost. Like, how encouraging that must have felt for them!
I cried! they were soooo happy. Adorable.
B팀 실력 진짜 미쳤다.. 비아이는 존나 걍 천재구나
I think the reason Team A became the Winner is because they struggled so much in the beginning. They lost, cried, and worked even harder. That's why we felt their feelings more.
yah feel sorry for taehyun..hes alwys crying..
They're not worse than team b. Just not hep hap enough
If they lost, their team will be surely disbanded and that. Not like team b, even if they lost for sure YG won’t let them go.
지금 시점에서 윈 다시보며 우는 아이코닉.. 그냥 말로 할 수 없는 감정....... 알죠..?
I love how Jinhwan maintained his calm during the turmoil between June and Donghyuk. He even asks the crew not to film further. And man, I never felt so nervous seeing the two fight like that. I am a new iKonic and seeing this is just crazy. 😥😰
EDITED: *AND WHEN I THOUGHT...* *MAN I GOT PRANKED WITH JINHWAN.* HAHAHAHA.
That's literally meeehh
I cried a lot
I almost teared up when I saw that.
the teamwork between the triple Kim is amazing when Hanbin slapped Jinhwan's hand.. is like saying is your turn to sing 😀
awww... yg himself is the sweetest in a way even if he doesn't know how to show it properly. winner n ikon fighting. bobby is my babby
Team B which is iKON will surely have a beautiful performance. Having B.I as their leader and the members are so talented. They are not just a team but a brothers.
잔인하게 서바이벌 평가 하면서 뭘 자꾸 즐기래 ㅋㅋ 말이야 방구야
가수가 보여지는 직업이고 무대는 즐겨야하는거에요 님아 무대에서 열심히하는 모습을 보여주는게 가수입니까?
관중들에게 에너지를 주고 함께 즐기는게 무대지 그러니까 연습생과정에서도 즐기는 연습을하라는거겠지 그럼 b팀은 어떻게 저리 잘 즐기면서하겠나
ㅋㅋㅋ 맞는말이에요
People keep saying that team b is the next Bigbang, bigbang can't dance like that neither did they has the same music style iKon is different in their own way
idk why but I feel like Winner has more of a BigBang feel, well especially bigbang in the later years, and the music varies. But iKon - Winner and BigBang are all different.
RA bigbang has dances to all of their songs but they are just busy having fun until they forgot to do it
R B go watching old video of Bigbang, they slayed. They were AMAZING Dancer
Vie Soewarno especially gd and taeyang are amazing dancers
@@ashishjugjali1209 and seungri the lead dancer
위너 진짜 좋아하는데 진짜 존경하기도 함 기껏해야 이십대 생초반 애들인데..
“길고 길었지 지옥 같던 연습실 청춘을 갈아 넣어 뿌린 내 그릇의 가니쉬” 리무진 송민호 벌슨데 이거 듣다가 이 프로 생각 나서 보러 옴 진짜 새삼 고생 많았어 행복만 하자
윈만 보면 맴찢 ㅠㅠ
김진환은 막형이데 넘나 귀여워다~!!!!!!좋아좋아좋아좋아좋아좋아~!!!!!!ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
지금 보면 강승윤이야말로 빅뱅의 태양같은 느낌이다. 팀의 리더로서 작사 작곡 편곡에. 뭘 하든 팀을 먼저 생각하고 팬들이 어디가서 강승윤을 좋아한다는게 부끄럽지 않게 하려고 계속해서 노력하고 또 노력하고. 항상 열심히 하고. 진짜 강승윤은 찐이다. 이번 솔로 활동 하는거 보면서 승윤이가 얼마나 진실된 사람인지 다시 느꼈다. 강승윤 오래가자!! 위너 오래가자!! 사랑해💙
미친 육발칠발 존나 멋있다... 진짜 김한빈은 천재였다 난놈
I really enjoyed watching WIN after both groups have had their debut. This show was so intense and I'm so glad for both of them and their success especially after seeing how hard both teams trained! YG is the best at finding and honing great talent. I have a soft spot for Ikon though, love those guys so much! Especially the original 3. Bobby puts a smile on my face, B.I. is like on his own level and such a fantastic leader and Jinhwan is just adorable. But I love the rest of Ikon too and really enjoy Winner as well. Amazing amazing show, thank you YG.
Totally agree with all you said :)
중간에 비팀몰캌ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ개웃기넼ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ김동혁연기천쟄ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
그니까요~!!!!!!저도 몰카부분에 빵빵빵빵빵빵 터졌음~!!!!!!애들 표정다 넘나 웃기당~!!!!!!ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Dang, things got pretty heated with team B
team b's dance was so so sooooo good omg. hanbin was exceptionally talented at that age. and the execution was insanely perfect. the group did so well
I like team A ' s style but team B is deabak...team B's performance is breath taking..i regret not being able to watch it before winner's debut😭. This survival battle is the coolest...YG sure is full of talented artist. Still, despite knowing who won It's still nice to watch the competition and both team's hard work. I'm waiting for ikon's debut...I'll support winner too but, right now I need to finish watching the competition, winnerTV , their mv's...in short I need to learn more about the group winner😅.
ins. win truth is, TEAM B as a whole is great. But what makes TEAM A special is that every member has their own individual ability and unique skill. They overcame that through the competition and now, as WINNER they are DAEBAK!!! Do you agree??
Lucy Diamond totally agree
+Lucy Diamond yeah i totally feel great toknew that team A become WINNER and team B become iKON that's just right!
I am very proud of my iKON, young and wild. Leader B.I, you are the best! My Yunhyeong, you have improved a lot. iKON will be the next BigBang. All the best for WINNER too. Peace.
What I like from the very beginning between the two groups is that Team B has this sense of one-ness, of being and moving as one unit, whereas Team A has this sense of distinctiveness--each person is unique but somehow, finds a harmonious place in the group. Neither is better than the other, but the reception will depend on the preference of the viewer.
이거 처음 봤을 때 비아이 진짜 가요계에 한 획 그을 줄 알았어. 아이콘 데뷔 프로랑 데뷔하고 나서도 엄청 응원했는데... 다른 의미로 핫해질 줄은...... 진짜 진환이랑 바비 안타깝다
바비도..
노래 자체가 신나지가 않은데 어떻게 신나게 하라는거지
그리고 저런 힘든 서바이벌 프로그램이 있으면 애들이 쉬면서 하게 하지..저렇게 병행군도 하게 하고 스케줄도 조절하면서 하게 해주지..몸이 몸이 아닌데 저렇게 까지 하냐..물론 데뷔도 중요한데 저렇게꺼지 시키냐..
화이팅!! 위너 사룽해용😍
I really love how YG handles everything! He never let anyone feels bad. I was also touches when he prepared something to cheer the Team A up. He's a great CEO!
Team A is Very Unique and Special... that's what makes them stand out❤️
진짜 b팀 잘한다 a팀도 ㅋㅋㅋ이때는 b팀이 훨씬 즐기고 여유로워보인닼ㅋ
인정합니다 B팀이 너무 아쉽네요
I'm a new iKONIC and I have to say that I would have never thought that team b would have fought (junhoe & donghyuk) I've always thought they got along well and have a great chemistry and teamwork from what I've seen in iKON TV...these 2 dorks got me too. Poor jinanie 😅
#Dongdong being a pro actor to start a fight (1st with junhoe and then with chanwoo) he needs to start his acting career soon
r u kidding me right now team b is slayin the are so effin good, it just looks so effortless when theyre performing how did they not win.
They are really good... imo they were too good it got to them... like they got too overconfident and they weren't as desperate as team a.. i think that was their downfall.
machi923 yeah i know im happy team a won but i really want team b to debut, mostly cuz of bobby lol
machi923 Are u kidding me? What kind of logic is that? If u don't noticed, Team B never won the voting. It doesn't matter how good they are, if the other team has overwhelmingly popular members. Team A/Winner was already immensely popular before the show started because of Seungyoon. They also had more screen time especially in the first 3 episodes. So right from the start, YG was already leaning for Team A/Winner to win. He probably just wanted to do the program so that Team B will get TV exposure and people would recognize them when they debut in the future
^_^;;
I think yg know who'll debut that time and i think he did this survival show to make team b have more exposure. Idk its just my opinion
Jinhwan got into my heart. He's such a nice considerate guy always helping his team members. But when Donghyuk and Junhoe fought, he turned into a manly serious (but not furious) little man ^^
I think Team A's dance moves are totally epic **O**
Watching again and again... Just to feel it again what iKON through until this day... IM so proud to be a hardkore iKONIC
lool that lady foresaw everything. She knew Team A was destined to be Winner whilst Team B's is to IKON
goosebumps
Mugiwara98 May I know who is that lady you've mentioned?
Tarot card reader
Sonita San the tarot card reader ;)
I think this whole thing was already planned that team a should be Winner and team b would be iKon. YG cannot just disband both teams because they have so much potentials.
진짜 새삼 비아이가 대단하다는걸 다시 느낀다
I don't know why I always end up crying after watching every episode. This show is truly inspiring and I really admire YG's strictness and being straightforward to his trainees, even though his comments are really harsh it will really keep them motivated. YG is really great in handling his artists.
This was the time Jinhwan became my bias.
On the 2nd ep, I was already rooting for Team B. I feel more connected with them. It just intensifies every episode
Team B always with their hidden camera pranks. I just rewatched ikon TV and Jinhwan got his revenge for pranking him in this program. iKON is still struggling even in Kingdom and it just breaks my heart. They are insanely talented. All they need is a little bit of luck. iKONics are always with you. If you guys disband, change companies, go solo, iKONICS will always be there for you.
its really hard for Team A. But thanks so much to YG for that cheering. I know u love all ur trainees.
Team A lovers and Team B lovers !!! why r u guys bashing against one team ?! I seriously have no idea why u guys have to be this way BOTH are amazing I love both and I have biases in both !! Don't u guys remember that they both used to train WITH EACH OTHER they're like brothers !! this competition is already over and if it wasn't we wouldn't have WINNER or IKON !!! I think it was nice to see how much they worked hard for !! This was not only to show us a competition but to show us that the trainees worked rlly rlly hard for their debut !! And look where Team A is now :) team B is debuting this yr or the next idk when but they are !!! And I'm so happy for both !!! U guys should be too why does it matter who won if both get to debut and live their dream I'm all for it !! there's no need to argue over who was better because we all know both groups are amazing, funny, hot, and talented !! I just hope we all could be friends and that we could fangirl about KPOP and WINKON together !!! :) Fighting WINNER !!! Fighting IKON !!! Fighting YG LOVERS !! Fighting everyone !! 😉👌🏼 edit: wow did I love exclamation marks or what LOL also when I used to use hwaiting 😬
vivian nguyen WINKON is the best..i'm team b stan from begining.and i knew what happened here.But for sure i love both .Sry for my english 😁
omg so glad that i stan iKON. they're such a blessing to me. xoxo
I have been going backwards with iKON journey.. I fell in love with them watching a 2019 variety show and have been binge watching all theirs shows and videos.. I have watched almost everything except WIN.. I didn’t want to watch it since I know they don’t win and it’s painful to see B.I’s hard work knowing that iKON OT7 is no more.. But since I had exhausted everything else I decided to watch their beginning and cry with them .. MIND BLOWN by team B.. they are professionals ready to rock the stage.. No one other than B.I could hav pulled this off.. he is a hardworking genius! iKON has been through so much and they deserve so much more than they hav now.. if only they had debuted in 2013 and didn’t hav the pressure of debut would things hav been easier on B.I.. would he be in a better place now.. I have thought this countless no of times.. it jus makes me so sad to think about wat could hav been..
I feel like I'm the only one who actually likes ikon more than winner.. and the rest of ikons fans are just winner stans who support them because of this show
Not at all hehe I'm an iKonic who has many Inner Circle friends, so at the time when I was only a focused VIP for years, and the fanwars started I was kind of bias of course towards Winner, so I decided to watch WIN and made an opinion by myself, after watching the whole show I was 100% sure I' was a Team B stan, but the show also made me respect and aprecciate Winner a lot. So now I'm a happy iKonic (and VIP) whose friends had to calm down and I also support Winner and IC, but IKON FOREVER :)
I've always been a fan of both groups' music but never got into them. My best told me to get into them because she LOOOVES Winner. I've always liked Ikon more by a little bit! Ikon's performance and sound is more of my taste! But watching both of them on WIN, I'm loving both more and more! :')
I'm here.. i like ikon more than winner.. they were younger than winner members.. but they were confident and did their best with great team work.. they also had fun too.. winner is also talented and that's good they win this survival. because they are elder than team b if would they lost their dreams might be ruined.. but while looking mix and match i got that how stronger and talented team b are.. and ikon is destined to have our chanwoo that's why they lost.. (sorry for my english)
Ikon and Blackpink are my everything
Never apologize for your english. You showed effort to write in English and thats great!
Btw I'm an iKONIC too. Im somewhat glad that team A won this. iKON wouldn't be complete without chanwoo
Palekia 95 from the comments you could say that they are predominantly fans of team a/winner but I'm watching this because I recently give in and wanted to learn more about ikon after knowing Bobby 💞 I honestly didn't want to know more about ikon since I'm OK stanning BB but I ended up watching ikonTV and then this, will watch M&M next :) I actually just saw the face behind the name Winner now :))
Although I would have to agree on the comments that not all of Team B stands out :( Song being the one with the least impact.