Yes it is fair ? Maybe yujin didnt get any First places yet she Had more lines in the Album than leeseo. placements arent everything cuz Sometimes the difference between First and Last is 8 Seconds and that is fair
@@Sandrinarhondayk i am talking Abt the new Album right? She got 2 THIRD places and two 4th places which isnt unfair at all also compared to their earlier days where gaeul got Like 8 Secs and liz AS the Main vocalist 12 THIS IS FAIR
@@Jin-z8h3sdid we watch the same video? as you can see, aside from kitsch where we collectively agree that sse done her dirty, she got pretty good amount of lines in most songs
Liz and Yujin : The Main Vocals Wonyoung and Leeseo: The Lead Vocals And i love how everyone in the vocal line has their moments to shine. Rei has a lot of number 1s too, let's wait and see how Gaeul's lines develop in the future.
Wrong! Wonyoung and Leeseo are not lead vocalists / in the vocal line The only vocalists are Liz and Yujin, even Rei Is a better vocalist than Wonyoung and Leeseo especially
@@pinklamborghini6446 You always underestimate Wonyoung. Remember that not all Lead Vocalists in KPop are in charge of taking high notes. In fact, Wonyoung has been the official Lead Vocalist since they debuted 😏 honestly she can do a high note more often as she like if STARSHIP not give her a "deadly" schedule or stupid fashion brand who always "steal" her time.
@@pinklamborghini6446 even Suho EXO, Kevin The Boyz, Yunho ATEEZ, Jungmo Cravity & Jeongyeon Twice are great Lead Vocalist (Wonyoung are included). But, Have you ever seen or heard of them taking Highnotes as often as the members of their own group?? No right??!!! In EXO they give all Highnote more often to CBD, in The Boyz they give to New & Sangyeon, in ATEEZ they give to Jongho, in Cravity they give to Woobin and in Twice they only give to Jihyo & Nayeon. This means that not all Lead Vocalists get the same opportunities 😏
@yuqilover628 a sole vocalist who is constantly the whole group's vocal will never have "many lines" she just get what she supposed to have. AND SHE DESERVE EVEN MORE
shes always been treated as a main vocalist, out of 9 title tracks she has 4 in where shes first in the line distribution, yujin has 2 and wony has 3, yall gotta stop with this narrative of liz being done dirty with lines all the time
@@Can_think_of_a_name no it wasn't, Yujin had more lines than her before this comeback in all songs line distribution, and I didn't even complain. I just pointed out the fact that Liz deserves it
ELEVEN TAKE IT LOVE DIVE ROYAL After LIKE My Satisfaction Queen Of Hearts KITSCH Blue Blood I AM Lips Heroine Mine Hypnosis NOT YOUR GIRL Next Page Cherish Shine With Me WAVE Classic I WANT Either Way Off The Record Baddie Holy Moly OTT Payback All Night Will HEYA Accendio Blue Heart Ice Queen WOW RESET
it's always been. but we need to hope that she'll get the opportunity, some time soon. a lot of Dive didn't understand the frustration of being a Gaeul fan. they'll deemed that we're ungrateful when actually we want to see more of her. they keep switching on to the lead rapper, main dancer argument and she almost didn't get no part on both categories. saddening but at least the music's good. we could only hope for another time 🙏
Why no one count Liz adlibs in Payback....she does that adlibs its not bg vocalist.....she herself lip-sync in the MV.....just like Next Page we thought The adlibs were Bg vocalist.....but Liz herself do that on Live performance......it can be Her...
some adlibs are her, however, there are some that are bv, the background vocalist of this song has a voice similar to Liz, so it may sound like her, but it's bv:)
@@sunmoon_k random K didnt count the last chorus adlibs....which is done by Liz....thats the problem.....that is not Bv.....most of the adlibs is her...but RandomK dont count.....
@@i_for_ivyz6306 I'm not sure.... everyone who did vocal analysis for payback said it wasn't her ....also just cause she was lipsyncing doesn't mean it's her lines . She didn't lipsync her adlibs during 2nd chorus so does that mean it's not hers ? No offense...but either way she's first .
I don't understand why Leeseo has so many lines, has high notes (which could be made by strong vocalists like Liz, Yujin even Rei or Wonyoung) and is receiving raps, more than Gaeul than if she is a rapper (I don't hate it or anything about it, but I really think that the lines of strong vocal should be given to the strong vocalists and the raps to those who are rappers, in this case Rei and Gaeul)
Probably because her voice perfectly fits IVE's sound. Ive has this siren and alluring sound and leeseos unique vocal tone perfectly fits the song along with liz.
So Leeseo would be no line right because Vocal part You think She doesn't deserve Only Strong vocalist can made it, and Rap You think She doesn't deserve those line Only Rapper, What's line she can have it
all night line distribution is incorrect In the pinned link you said that you used the random k one ( line distribution) but in the video you used a different one that it.s incorrect
That’s a lie. You’re either not updated on their skills or you know nothing about vocals. The correct ranking based on techniques and skills is: Liz Yujin WonYoung Rei Leeseo Gaeul. Attend their concert or listen to their live performances. Wonyoung’s falsetto is much better than Rei and Gaeul. Leeseo is quite nasal but she’s more consistent and can project more while dancing.
@@Crawdads02 indeed bro!! Wonyoung are great Lead Vocalist in IVE and best Vocalist with Yujin & Jiwon (Liz) Even, A lot of western Vocal coach and Music Producer like Ryan S Juhn are praised her singing skill. They not even afraid to give a high grade to Jang Wonyoung's vocal abilities.🤝.
@@Crawdads02 Only SM STAN always underestimates the vocal abilities of middle/Nugu agency groups and what's more cunning is that they always instill a stigma in the public that vocalists from other agencies are the worst 😎
Kitsch is still one of my top IVE songs, but I still dont understand how Starship wrote the song giving Liz just 1 solo part. I know she has most seconds in total discography, but Kitsch is one of their top songs. They could've easily given her at least 2 parts. I wish we could ask Starship personally what was going through their minds. Make it make sense. Still love Kitsch and Liz and IVE.
@@weejinnie22 that actually makes sense. Bc it can't be an oversight, no one would make that mistake on purpose. Let's just believe Liz is an integral part of the ambiguous chorus. But I tell ya Kitsch and Love Dive live at the concert was sensational.
a sole member who is constantly carrying the whole group's vocal will never have "many lines" she just got what she supposed to have. AND SHE DESERVE EVEN MORE
she's the only one with proper vocal support, people are just happy that the starship did something before it became a real mistreatment. but the real mistreatment here is not giving the supposed 2nd best vocalist any vocal lessons because girlie been struggling since izone
@@izzysplanet69 if being the best vocalist that solely being able to support and stanning her making someone a token stan, then sure if that helps you sleep at night 🤭
This is my opinion, so if you don't agree and want to disagree, just disagree for yourself. I'm sorry Liz fans, but in my opinion Yujin should be the main vocalist, since she has all the necessary skills to be in that position. Liz has great vocals too, however I would say that she could be one of the vocal leaders of the group, since in Ive's classification, she would be in the top 3, with Yujin as main, Liz as second and in third place me I would leave Wony or Leeseo, although we can recognize that Wony is just the main visual and also the face of the group. What is worth highlighting here is that Ive urgently needs to create ways of putting Rei and Gaeul on the same vocal range as the sub vocalists until then.
What load of bullshit that you wrote , yujin is technically on the sub vocalist level of 4th gen kpop idols , no support , regressed techniques , straining even the basics of notes. There's a huge huge gap between Liz and yujin , yujin is closer to rei and wonyoung's level comapred to liz . Yujin doesn't have the bare minimum skills to be in that position let alone the necessary skills , hitting high notes isn't the only skill needed to be the main vocalist , I maybe a bit biased to Rei but even rei is more relaxed than yujin when it comes to mid to low range . I don't know how much you understand vocals but if i were to compare with other idols , Liz is a better singer than main vocalists Lia of itzy , Mia of everglow or Hanni from newjeans whereas yujin is worse than chaewon of lsg , youngheun of kep1er etc , she's more on the level of , minju(newjeans) , stayc's J , or g idle's minnie .
@@Caspian_Xx I still think you're stupid, since Yujin is the leader of the group, do you really want to talk about Everglow's Mia? Since it unfairly dominates the lines of all songs?
@@Caspian_XxFrom what I understand Yujin is E+/E which is not at the level of Minju from new jeans and even less than J from stayc Minnie is currently E- That's all, I share the same opinion as you.
Line distributions used: ruclips.net/p/PLNMWM8EHufDyT91CtsoWQQyK06vk7zbSv&si=w8FDYsKkdCRwCkwx
FIXED Distributions
- ELEVEN
- Next Page
- All Night
Line distribution without all night?
You mixed Liz and Yujin in Payback
Liz v/s Yujin
Wonyoung v./s Leeseo
Rei and Gaeul chilling on 5th and 6th place
main vocals get many vocal lines gets decent rapper has less
it's fair
Rei is a great rapper lol, she is so underrated frfr, even her live rap is impressive.
Exactly and when we say this about Gaeul , we’re gaslighted.
WONYOUNG and LESSEO Everytime ⬆️⬇️⬆️⬇️⬆️⬇️
YES, they changed places like 8 times lol
Honestly ive Switch IS such a fair album everyone got to shine
Fair? Only liz and leeseo haves first places?
Yes it is fair ? Maybe yujin didnt get any First places yet she Had more lines in the Album than leeseo. placements arent everything cuz Sometimes the difference between First and Last is 8 Seconds and that is fair
@@fofinhadokpopzYujin gets alot of lines though? 💀💀 Liz was always in second place in the distribution and they did her horrible in the last album.
Fair but Gaeul is 5th or last as always pleasee .
@@Sandrinarhondayk i am talking Abt the new Album right? She got 2 THIRD places and two 4th places which isnt unfair at all also compared to their earlier days where gaeul got Like 8 Secs and liz AS the Main vocalist 12 THIS IS FAIR
Liz finally takes the first place, I'm so happy with it
She always have many lines and frist place, it's just kitsch that they messed up
@@yujinbestgirlshe is main vocalist wdym to say that she got many lines???
@@Jin-z8h3sdid we watch the same video? as you can see, aside from kitsch where we collectively agree that sse done her dirty, she got pretty good amount of lines in most songs
@yujinbestgirl Kitsch and Holy Moly actually
@@dinonara211 pretty sure the op meant the overall 1st place, not 1st place in a song
liz & yujin :
fighting together for 1st place
wonyoung & leeseo :
fighting together but chilling sometimes
rei & gaeul :
accepted their fate
Liz and Yujin : The Main Vocals
Wonyoung and Leeseo: The Lead Vocals
And i love how everyone in the vocal line has their moments to shine.
Rei has a lot of number 1s too, let's wait and see how Gaeul's lines develop in the future.
Wrong! Wonyoung and Leeseo are not lead vocalists / in the vocal line
The only vocalists are Liz and Yujin, even Rei Is a better vocalist than Wonyoung and Leeseo especially
Gaeul too@@pinklamborghini6446
@@pinklamborghini6446 are u drunk??🤣🤣 Wonyoung has a huge range than Rei 😎
@@pinklamborghini6446 You always underestimate Wonyoung. Remember that not all Lead Vocalists in KPop are in charge of taking high notes. In fact, Wonyoung has been the official Lead Vocalist since they debuted 😏 honestly she can do a high note more often as she like if STARSHIP not give her a "deadly" schedule or stupid fashion brand who always "steal" her time.
@@pinklamborghini6446 even Suho EXO, Kevin The Boyz, Yunho ATEEZ, Jungmo Cravity & Jeongyeon Twice are great Lead Vocalist (Wonyoung are included). But, Have you ever seen or heard of them taking Highnotes as often as the members of their own group?? No right??!!! In EXO they give all Highnote more often to CBD, in The Boyz they give to New & Sangyeon, in ATEEZ they give to Jongho, in Cravity they give to Woobin and in Twice they only give to Jihyo & Nayeon. This means that not all Lead Vocalists get the same opportunities 😏
liz staying in first for 0.3 sec
It was 0.2 sec 💀💀
Liz, you wanna be on top? oh yes main vocalist, you deserve 🎉
Liz has many lines. It's just that the token stans are always there to pitying her to drag other members. They really messed up with kitsch, tho.
yujin is the one with 'many lines'... Liz just got what she deserves here 😘
Liz 👑
@@antoncutie omg shut up please
@yuqilover628 a sole vocalist who is constantly the whole group's vocal will never have "many lines" she just get what she supposed to have. AND SHE DESERVE EVEN MORE
@yuqilover628 if they dont bother to give the other members a proper vocal training, then Liz will always deserve the most lines every single time.
Liz and Gaeul❤💌💘💝💖💗💓💞💕💟❣️❤️🔥❤️🩹❤️🤎💜🩵💙💚💛🧡🤍🩶🖤🩷
Finally liz is being treated as main vocalist, hope so Rora of baby monster and jeogyeon from twice will soon get this treatment
Idk about Rora, but y’all desperately need to let go of this fantasy of Jeongyeon getting better treatment as a vocalist. It’s been 9 years already
@@christianscott4955sad but true😅
@@christianscott4955 true!
She was always treated as main vocalist but yall never listen to their other tracks 🫠
shes always been treated as a main vocalist, out of 9 title tracks she has 4 in where shes first in the line distribution, yujin has 2 and wony has 3, yall gotta stop with this narrative of liz being done dirty with lines all the time
Out of 34 songs Gaeul was last in 20 of them. That means she has the least amount of lines in 58% of their songs in a 6 person group.
I finally see Liz first place in all album line distribution. That's what a main vocalist should get!
@@Can_think_of_a_name no it wasn't, Yujin had more lines than her before this comeback in all songs line distribution, and I didn't even complain. I just pointed out the fact that Liz deserves it
@yuqilover628 why does that happen?
@@exosnisso8909because of the song type, i guess, everything depends on the producer's choice which part suits certain members the most.
Ive mine comeback
Lesseo:Reverse!
Wonyoung:Ah
Ive switch
Wonyoung:Reverse
Lesseo:Nah
Wonyoung is getting fewer seconds compared to 2022...
Wheres the next comeback ive leeseo in 1st place album distribution?
@@fofinhadokpopz não sabemos...
@@danieltp35011 I love leeseo so much
@@fofinhadokpopzyou're not portuguese/brazilian?
Finally Liz is at the top! hope she never has to come down again lol
Poor Gaeul :(
Stop it
She's the only member not credited as a Vocalist, she's their weakest vocalist
@@Chuu27692Bro it's Leeseo F- vs Gauel F+
Righttt , smh . Gaeul deserves better !
@@opinionisopinion My guy, vocal tiers mean nothing.
ELEVEN TAKE IT LOVE DIVE ROYAL After LIKE My Satisfaction Queen Of Hearts KITSCH Blue Blood I AM Lips Heroine Mine Hypnosis NOT YOUR GIRL Next Page Cherish Shine With Me WAVE Classic I WANT Either Way Off The Record Baddie Holy Moly OTT Payback All Night Will HEYA Accendio Blue Heart Ice Queen WOW RESET
the difference between gaeul and the rest in being in last place 😭😭
This is progress to Starship comparing with their first girl group💀
@@hollyglimmer3486 well yes yeoreum is arguably the worst treated idol ever considering her talent 💀💀💀
Exactly a mess .
@@sweetpimGaeul and her are treated the exact same way , idk what it is with Starship but they always treat 1 member so horribly.
@@hollyglimmer3486it’s not progress 😂
Liz without kitsch is number one too
finally liz takes the 1st place she deserves, main vocalist indeed ❤
"Finally liz treated as main vocal" just stfu and say u never listen to ive other than their title tracks lmao
EXACTLY LiZ is always top 3 in lines
Liz also has first in most ive title tracks too, kitsch just made everyone think liz never gets lines😭
Me encanta cuando dicen que Liz nunca tiene líneas en las canciones 😂 este vídeo: la persona con más líneas es Liz 😅
She main vocal
i just realized how i love ive discography
Liz is Main Vocalist 🎉 Finally my dreams are coming true 😢 I'm emotional right now I'm happy for I've and Liz
Gaeul and Liz ❤🩷🧡💛💚💙🩵💜🤎🖤🩶🤍❤️❤️🩹❤️🔥❣️💟💕💞💓💗💖💝💘💖
blue blood is their best line distribution, 5s is crazy
One album can change everything. Finally Liz is treated well. Hopefully Jeongyeon will be treated like this too 😭
let's hope for good lines for her in the new jp album! one song she already has a lot lines, hare hare.
Jeongyeon need jesus to have lines 😭 omg maybe in their new Japanese album this July she might be rank 7 again
this album didnt change everything, shes been treated well since the beginning, just got the short end of the stick in kitsch and kitsch alone
jeongyeon cannot be saved anymore
@@omarbirkdar5536i think after like too where they did her dirty but generally liz gets good lines in title tracks and bsides
biasing gaeul in this economy is so hard 😔
it's always been. but we need to hope that she'll get the opportunity, some time soon. a lot of Dive didn't understand the frustration of being a Gaeul fan. they'll deemed that we're ungrateful when actually we want to see more of her. they keep switching on to the lead rapper, main dancer argument and she almost didn't get no part on both categories. saddening but at least the music's good. we could only hope for another time 🙏
Is realy but out now the Main rappers no have many lines
@@yuuuuuuki98righttt . Gaeul deserves much better .
Liz vs Yujin or Wonyoung vs Leeseo 🔥🔥🔥🔥
SLAY LIZ
Can someone explain me why Liz gets special treatments when she is first?.....
Why no one count Liz adlibs in Payback....she does that adlibs its not bg vocalist.....she herself lip-sync in the MV.....just like Next Page we thought The adlibs were Bg vocalist.....but Liz herself do that on Live performance......it can be Her...
some adlibs are her, however, there are some that are bv, the background vocalist of this song has a voice similar to Liz, so it may sound like her, but it's bv:)
@@sunmoon_k random K didnt count the last chorus adlibs....which is done by Liz....thats the problem.....that is not Bv.....most of the adlibs is her...but RandomK dont count.....
@@i_for_ivyz6306 Lis only had adlibs during the 2nd chorus , the last adlibs are not her , it's another singer .
@@Caspian_Xx its her she lip sync in the Payback mv go check
@@i_for_ivyz6306 I'm not sure.... everyone who did vocal analysis for payback said it wasn't her ....also just cause she was lipsyncing doesn't mean it's her lines . She didn't lipsync her adlibs during 2nd chorus so does that mean it's not hers ? No offense...but either way she's first .
Liz main vocalis become really true
this comeback is so Liz era
@yuqilover628 you are just a hateful person. g idle stans will always be the worst thing ever ewww
Slayyyyyy 😊❤
Liz was saved at the last second
I don't understand why Leeseo has so many lines, has high notes (which could be made by strong vocalists like Liz, Yujin even Rei or Wonyoung) and is receiving raps, more than Gaeul than if she is a rapper (I don't hate it or anything about it, but I really think that the lines of strong vocal should be given to the strong vocalists and the raps to those who are rappers, in this case Rei and Gaeul)
Honestly in the group leeseo is one of the louder ones when singing live so I get it
True, starshitt promoting her so much
I saw it too... idk maybe the producer think leeseo voice suit the song more than any strong performance?
Probably because her voice perfectly fits IVE's sound. Ive has this siren and alluring sound and leeseos unique vocal tone perfectly fits the song along with liz.
So Leeseo would be no line right because Vocal part You think She doesn't deserve Only Strong vocalist can made it, and Rap You think She doesn't deserve those line Only Rapper, What's line she can have it
leeseo wony : were best friend till the end
yujin liz : sometimes, we switch our rank
*WHILE*
rei : *far away
gaeul : ok👁️👄👁️
10 seconds ago ❤😊
Gaeul❤
I think you should use KPOPFORMS Line Distribution of Classic as it is more accurate
IVE❤❤❤❤❤
when will people start using mine for royal? random_k's is wrong
bruh because people wanna leeseo last? because of the intro royal?
@@bypaknox3629 what
@@miam_k idk sorry haha
@@miam_ksupporting your channel btw l, you’re amazing
My leeseo
Please starship, give lines for my leeseo.
I love you so much leeseo.
I love your vídeos sunmoonk
OMG LIZ
For 6 member this line are pretty fair 😎
bestie love dive is kinda wrong because de lalala isn't the girls
Can you fix Payback Liz has 58
no are you crazy hahaha
@@bypaknox3629 she even lipsyncs them in the mv + THEY SOUND LIKE HER😭😭
@@JY_Hann0 no
can u give me what app u used to edit ? ❤
Flourish studio for the bar chart race
Alight Motion and CapCut for the edit (mainly CapCut)
Line distribution without All Night?
lesseo was on 5th on ice queen not 6th
I notice that the new album track's line distribution are really gair, like look at the pie chart, it's literally the same amount.
When you look at it
Ive’s line distribution is actually really fair
the adlib in after likfe prechorus is yujin not liz
it's clearly liz
@@sunmoon_k nope?
all night line distribution is incorrect
In the pinned link you said that you used the random k one ( line distribution) but in the video you used a different one that it.s incorrect
So in total
Wonyoung is 4th
And lesseo is 3rd
yeah they said they fixed the distribution, random_k didnt double the timer for wony and yujin's adlibs
LIZ FIRST?!?!!??!?
Liz finally takes the first place, I'm so happy with it...SHINE LIZ
❤❤❤❤❤
Rei and Gaeul, You Are Rapper but you Have better vocal than Leesoo and Wonyoung
wongyoung and leeseo dont have the best vocal skills...but they both have a beautiful tone while singing...❤
That’s a lie. You’re either not updated on their skills or you know nothing about vocals. The correct ranking based on techniques and skills is:
Liz
Yujin
WonYoung
Rei
Leeseo
Gaeul.
Attend their concert or listen to their live performances. Wonyoung’s falsetto is much better than Rei and Gaeul. Leeseo is quite nasal but she’s more consistent and can project more while dancing.
@@Crawdads02 I agree they r both so good......no hate to Rei and Gauel
@@Crawdads02 indeed bro!! Wonyoung are great Lead Vocalist in IVE and best Vocalist with Yujin & Jiwon (Liz) Even, A lot of western Vocal coach and Music Producer like Ryan S Juhn are praised her singing skill. They not even afraid to give a high grade to Jang Wonyoung's vocal abilities.🤝.
@@Crawdads02 Only SM STAN always underestimates the vocal abilities of middle/Nugu agency groups and what's more cunning is that they always instill a stigma in the public that vocalists from other agencies are the worst 😎
liz should have 1 fifth place for love dive
Isn't After Like wrong?
No, I think
Kitsch is still one of my top IVE songs, but I still dont understand how Starship wrote the song giving Liz just 1 solo part. I know she has most seconds in total discography, but Kitsch is one of their top songs. They could've easily given her at least 2 parts. I wish we could ask Starship personally what was going through their minds. Make it make sense. Still love Kitsch and Liz and IVE.
It might have been a marketing tactic to get people talking about it before I Am was released
@@weejinnie22 that actually makes sense. Bc it can't be an oversight, no one would make that mistake on purpose. Let's just believe Liz is an integral part of the ambiguous chorus. But I tell ya Kitsch and Love Dive live at the concert was sensational.
YUJIN and LIZ everytime
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1 minute ago
a sole member who is constantly carrying the whole group's vocal will never have "many lines" she just got what she supposed to have. AND SHE DESERVE EVEN MORE
This is pretty fair
But yes liz is mistreated 🥺🥺🥺
she's the only one with proper vocal support, people are just happy that the starship did something before it became a real mistreatment.
but the real mistreatment here is not giving the supposed 2nd best vocalist any vocal lessons because girlie been struggling since izone
@@antoncutie yujin can support
@@lia-zc4iz once in a blue moon, yes.
@@antoncutietoken stan
@@izzysplanet69 if being the best vocalist that solely being able to support and stanning her making someone a token stan, then sure if that helps you sleep at night 🤭
Where's Dear cupid
not a song
the best vocalist is on top 😘
Liz token pity stans now can stop crying😂
Finally Liz in first place
Wdym finally? She was always in the top ranks for line distribution
Deserved Lizzzzz!!!!!
I think wonyoung should be 2nd place
I literally don’t see the appeal in Yujin’s voice no offense
Yujin can support and have better vocal tone than wonyoung who cannot also have nasal voice sometimes
This is my opinion, so if you don't agree and want to disagree, just disagree for yourself.
I'm sorry Liz fans, but in my opinion Yujin should be the main vocalist, since she has all the necessary skills to be in that position. Liz has great vocals too, however I would say that she could be one of the vocal leaders of the group, since in Ive's classification, she would be in the top 3, with Yujin as main, Liz as second and in third place me I would leave Wony or Leeseo, although we can recognize that Wony is just the main visual and also the face of the group. What is worth highlighting here is that Ive urgently needs to create ways of putting Rei and Gaeul on the same vocal range as the sub vocalists until then.
What load of bullshit that you wrote , yujin is technically on the sub vocalist level of 4th gen kpop idols , no support , regressed techniques , straining even the basics of notes. There's a huge huge gap between Liz and yujin , yujin is closer to rei and wonyoung's level comapred to liz . Yujin doesn't have the bare minimum skills to be in that position let alone the necessary skills , hitting high notes isn't the only skill needed to be the main vocalist , I maybe a bit biased to Rei but even rei is more relaxed than yujin when it comes to mid to low range . I don't know how much you understand vocals but if i were to compare with other idols , Liz is a better singer than main vocalists Lia of itzy , Mia of everglow or Hanni from newjeans whereas yujin is worse than chaewon of lsg , youngheun of kep1er etc , she's more on the level of , minju(newjeans) , stayc's J , or g idle's minnie .
@@Caspian_Xx Like I said, it's my opinion, so whether you like it or not, is your problem!
@@Caspian_Xx I still think you're stupid, since Yujin is the leader of the group, do you really want to talk about Everglow's Mia? Since it unfairly dominates the lines of all songs?
this makes no sense
@@Caspian_XxFrom what I understand Yujin is E+/E
which is not at the level of Minju from new jeans and even less than J from stayc
Minnie is currently E-
That's all, I share the same opinion as you.