Thanks for the video. What do we do if they move with dragoons/shuttle to the front, but it is a fake and they drop our main with a speed shuttle? Such a move always gets me when I try to fight the reaver-dragoon push in the open. For example, around 9:20, what if they decide to sit on highground or even retreat with dragoons, but a speed shuttle comes to our main? How do we not take damage there, or how can we see it in advance?
That's a good point. Actually when opp has speed shuttle, you should place 3~4 goons in main and natural and I did like that until before the time 9:20. If opp plays like what you said, you should send probes far away from reaver and send goons to kill the shuttle and reaver that's all. It's about movement. To see the opp's play in advance you should put an observer behind minerals at natural and another good position like between 3rd expansion area and main base or around high ground you said.
I think it depends on micro but basically protoss can block 2 fac. 23 Nexus 23 Pylon 25 or 26 Robotics and 27 2nd gate while making goons continuously. Try it when you meet terran.
Khala, can you do 1 more guide for Protoss versus Zerg? Gateway expand versus Zerg. I want to know the proper response to defend against something like 9 pool or overpool on Eclipse. Also, gateway expand versus a zerg who is going 973. Thank you!
Got it I'll try to make more typcial PvT and PvZ instead of some all-in or chessy build order for the meantime. But it'll take some time because I can't control the opponents to do a specific build order haha.
@@khalatv This video, this game. [PvP] 2 gate observer dragoon build order. 5:36 in this video, you excluded opp 3 gate. In 5:36 could you excluded opponent dark templars?
@@stanislavpshenichniy8998 there're 4th goon come out(when my 4th goon just come out) at the time so it means it's 1 gate yet and even if he has templar archives the dt would come out in 30 seconds at least.
Thanks for the video.
What do we do if they move with dragoons/shuttle to the front, but it is a fake and they drop our main with a speed shuttle? Such a move always gets me when I try to fight the reaver-dragoon push in the open.
For example, around 9:20, what if they decide to sit on highground or even retreat with dragoons, but a speed shuttle comes to our main? How do we not take damage there, or how can we see it in advance?
That's a good point. Actually when opp has speed shuttle, you should place 3~4 goons in main and natural and I did like that until before the time 9:20. If opp plays like what you said, you should send probes far away from reaver and send goons to kill the shuttle and reaver that's all. It's about movement. To see the opp's play in advance you should put an observer behind minerals at natural and another good position like between 3rd expansion area and main base or around high ground you said.
리버갈 돈으로 마당을 빨리먹고 4~5겟을 빠르게 늘려 드라물량으로 수비하는 개념이군요!
셔틀리버한테는 좀 위험해 보이지만 기어리버한테는 진짜 좋을 것 같습니다!!
@@williammin4867 이거 옵3겟한테안털림? 원질3드라 마당꽂앗는데 ;;
Khala, I watched [PvT standard build order] 23 Nexus. But if terran goes to 2 fac. And locations are close. Terran kill 23 nexus build order ?
I think it depends on micro but basically protoss can block 2 fac. 23 Nexus 23 Pylon 25 or 26 Robotics and 27 2nd gate while making goons continuously. Try it when you meet terran.
1질3드라로 마당드셨는데 옵3겟한테는안밀리나여?
3드라가 전투 때 죽어서 그렇지 사실상 6드라 1질 후 더블이라서 후속 나오면 옵3겟은 막을 수 있습니다. 만약 컨 싸움 안 하고 압도적으로 막으려면 조금 더 안전하게 드라군 한 번 더 돌려서 8드라 더블 하셔도 됩니다.
Khala, can you do 1 more guide for Protoss versus Zerg? Gateway expand versus Zerg. I want to know the proper response to defend against something like 9 pool or overpool on Eclipse. Also, gateway expand versus a zerg who is going 973. Thank you!
Got it I'll try to make more typcial PvT and PvZ instead of some all-in or chessy build order for the meantime. But it'll take some time because I can't control the opponents to do a specific build order haha.
Khala, you excluded opp 3 gateways in this video. How exclude dt's?
Do you mean how to play when you want to exclude dt? I don't get your question
@@khalatv This video, this game. [PvP] 2 gate observer dragoon build order. 5:36 in this video, you excluded opp 3 gate. In 5:36 could you excluded opponent dark templars?
@@stanislavpshenichniy8998 ah yeah at least it will not be fast DT. Normally you can exclude dark teamplars yes.
@@khalatvyou said "it will not be fast DT". Why you think that? How you analyzed that? For me it's hard to predict dt's.
@@stanislavpshenichniy8998 there're 4th goon come out(when my 4th goon just come out) at the time so it means it's 1 gate yet and even if he has templar archives the dt would come out in 30 seconds at least.