When I was younger I never ever thought of god as loving and good since I saw no evidence of that IN THE BIBLE. My strategy was to do what was necessary not to piss him off.
Ironically enough, I was first introduced to the notions of "ce" and "bce" in my religion courses in college ('98 - '02). My professors stressed its use because it acknowledged that not all people using the modern calendar are from a Judeo-Christian background. It was meant to incorporate, not exclude. As an atheist who probably doesn't fit into Neil's group, I use it because it's not exclusionary with a twinge of disregard for the AD/BC format as an atheist. 😁
Evidence; all it would take is just one verifiable supernatural event. There has never been (no-one has ever observed) a verifiable supernatural event. If an all powerful deity exists, he/she/it clearly can't be bothered.
Moses parted the Red Sea with the help of God. It’s very verifiable down in history. The Egyptian up till date has never denied the fact that the Iseraelites were once in captivity in ancient Egypt. If not how else did the Iseraelites cross the Red Sea when been chased by Pharos chariots. This are historical facts
I enjoy NDT, but I do think he deliberately shies away from the atheist moniker because he likes to keep a broad audiance. Atheist and agnostic are not mutually exclusive terms. In fact, the vast majority of atheists are also agnostic (myself included). He's trying to distance himself from people like Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens, Barker, etc while still maintaining a closeness with their opinions.
He is an atheist, he just doesn't like the word. I like Ricky Gervais's statement about the word atheist. There shouldn't even be a word for someone who doesn't believe in god(s). There's no word for someone who doesn't believe in Leprechauns, Bigfoot or the Loch Ness monster.
@@chocopuddingcup83 Well, especially when it's something as widespread as religion. Since the vast majority of people believe in some sort of deity, they think it's odd when they find out that not everybody does. It's strange because there are hundreds of god claims that they don't believe in. Atheists just believe in one less than they do.
Or, like he told Richard Dawkins, he's using a softer approach to educate people, rather than come across as insulting, and losing them altogether before he walks through the door ...
If you truly believe that God was all loving, he would not punish all mankind for the sins of two individuals who were like children, according to the Bible. You leave some cookies out for any child they’re gonna eat them. The story makes no sense and it’s also inaccurate. We know mankind has been around for hundreds of thousands of years and not 2000 to 3000 years according to the bible. And for the record, Jesus was Jewish and he would not approve of Christianity especially a religion in his name. I can assure you of that.
Love doesn't necessarily mean approving. Like a parent, because God is man's heavenly Father (One of the Trinity), the parent won't let children do literally whatever they want just because the kid wants. Due to the parent's love for their child, they restrict their child's choices. Also, the God of the Bible is perfectly just, meaning what is good will be accepted/rewarded and what is evil will be punished. Because Adam and Eve defied God's wishes by being tricked by the serpent (Satan), evil couldn't be in the presence of God, logically speaking, and their sin had to be punished. If their sin wasn't punished, God wouldn't be perfectly just and therefore wouldn't be God. You can believe in all current science and still believe in the God of the Bible. Additionally, Jesus was ethnically Jewish, but if you have read the New Testament at all you would know that He came to correct the Jewish people (Both regular people and Jewish authorities). Jesus came to fulfill the Jewish Law because nobody could, so by turning to Him you could be blameless as He is. He told people to turn to and trust in Him countless times, so if He was telling people to turn to Him, wouldn't those people be called followers of Christ (Also called "Christians")?
@@SamEvans02 I’m not sure why you guys think that a parent child analogy solves this in anyway. In the garden story. Yahweh places what’s akin to a loaded pew pew(the forbidden tree)in the garden with two four year olds. He admonishes them not to touch it but knew already what was going to happen before he did any of this. Then to make matters worse, he throws his irresponsible brother in law(according to you, whose Satan, a liar and an unaliver FROM the beginning as Jesus said)into the garden with the two kids who had no knowledge that disobedience was wrong as they had not yet partaken of the forbidden fruit. And then Yahweh has the nerve to punish them and the rest of humanity who had nothing to do with the garden scene; for actions that he set up all while knowing Any parent that did anything remotely similar would have their children taken from them and probably be thrown in jail for child endangerment. Any parent that would lo k their children up in a basement and set it on fire is not loving nor just.
@@andygibs1133 I don’t share your irrational fear of a seemingly imaginary being who loves you but will torture you for eternity if you don’t love it back. Sounds like a bit of an abusive relationship to me.
it is more charitable and logical not to believe in god than to believe in a god, infinite love and mercy, who, in addition to all the uncontrollable plagues that he has so lovingly prepared, has foreseen, organized and carried out the massacre by hunger of millions of innocent children, from the beginning of time to the present day. Children who have chosen nothing, were brought into the world according to his plan. No one could eliminate this extermination, only the god all love and compassion could and could do it. But he doesn't do it!!!!! and then I prefer not to believe and blame chance, which is not love and not even mercy.
If God was powerfull and all knowing He would have written his Book very clear and percise so there would not be any errors, contradictions and matching the sientific facts or have given the knowledge to jesus to write the book not inspiring more than 60 authors to write it and not checking bavk with them for accuracies.
“But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust? If the whole show was bad and senseless from A to Z, so to speak, why did I, who was supposed to be part of the show, find myself in such a violent reaction against it?... Of course I could have given up my idea of justice by saying it was nothing but a private idea of my own. But if i did that, then my argument against God collapsed too--for the argument depended on saying the world was really unjust, not simply that it did not happen to please my fancies. Thus, in the very act of trying to prove that God did not exist - in other words, that the whole of reality was senseless - I found I was forced to assume that one part of reality - namely my idea of justice - was full of sense. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never have known it was dark. Dark would be without meaning.” -C.S. Lewis
Bunch of nonsense, as usual. I:-I What does reality, concept of justice, or the meaningless of the universe has to do with the human made up concept of gods are can be true or not? Absolutely no correlation one to another in any way. Typical pseudo-intellectual blabbering from cognitive dissonance. Cope harder!
How about we start talking about how Unicorns farted this effing Universe into existence? Aren't we have enough problems in the word? Do we need some egomaniac, narcissistic idiots have to fulfill their weak brains and demand the same from others to make themselves feel better that they are insignificant and meaningless life, will end in one day? I think not! Pathetic and sad.
That doesn't make sense. We believe the God of the Bible is all good. However, we (Humanity) are not all good and not all knowing (Because if we were then we would be God and clearly we are not). Because we aren't all good, we have fallen short of His standard (Perfection), so we need saving which is why we need Jesus. True Christians don't believe they are good, they actually think humanity is evil (Anti-God and His ways), in fact. Know that most people who claim Christ and to be Christians probably can't even tell you what that means, so unfortunately they are not actual Christians.
God is love ❤️. And god gave us free will and you are free to do whatever you want. Whether that be for good or evil is up to you. Good works without greed can cure a people suffering with all ailments. There is a God. And for those who believe no explanation is necessary, for those who don’t believe no explanation will suffice.
Not true I triple dog dare you to prove you God without the Bible. I'm an agnostic who dd the whole Holy Ghost thing so don't even think about throwing scriptures at me. HOMMIE DON'T PLAY DAT.
How about to send him an email to his contact, instead of writing a comment under a channel, that is not correlated to him in any way? I'm sure with this amount of capacity, your video will astonish him...
@@jhonvoyage2564 Well you see Good Sir, His emails are currently being managed by people paid to filter out anything that is not related to getting $. And even though this channel is not owned by him, this particular video is about him. This my little friend means people interested in his stuff will watch and read the comments section. Giving me the best chance at attracting enough people who are into these topics to take a look at my video and given time, someone who can actually get in touch with the man may point him towards my vid. But thank you so very much Officer, for taking time out of your busy day of belittling commentors for leaving a comment in the comment section. I'm sure your superiors are all gathered at their headquarters discussing what amount is suitable for your promotion and how to get into your future graces before you take over their empires with the insane and otherworldly intellect you so possess.
@@jhonvoyage2564 I have, but his emails are filtered by people paid to only find emails concerning getting paid for gigs. So, any video I find with Neil on it, I write my above comment. This is because videos with Neil in it tend to attract people who like the stuff Neil talks about and if even one person reads my comment and watches my video out of curiosity, then the chances someone who knows Neil and can get Neil to watch that video go up by one. See I'm the type of person who, when I can't find a solution to my problem one way, will find another way to solve it and what better way to solve my problem than by enlisting the help of potentially 13,000 of these videos subscribers to get Neils attention. But thank you very much for the attempted digital belittlement, it is very manly of you, and I do adore the fact that you used not one but two words with 4 syllables in them each. Bravo bravo. but perhaps, on subsequent occasions, rather than attempting to belittle an individual due to their specific method of accomplishing a task, it may be prudent to contemplate the precise objective they are endeavoring to achieve.
@jhonvoyage2564 I have, but his emails are filtered by people paid to only find emails concerning getting paid for gigs. So, any video I find with Neil on it, I write my above comment. This is because videos with Neil in it tend to attract people who like the stuff Neil talks about and if even one person reads my comment and watches my video out of curiosity, then the chances someone who knows Neil and can get Neil to watch that video go up by one. See I'm the type of person who, when I can't find a solution to my problem one way, will find another way to solve it and what better way to solve my problem than by enlisting the help of potentially 13,000 of these videos subscribers to get Neils attention. But thank you very much for the attempted digital belittlement, it is very manly of you, and I do adore the fact that you used not one but two words with 4 syllables in them each. Bravo bravo. but perhaps, on subsequent occasions, rather than attempting to belittle an individual due to their specific method of accomplishing a task, it may be prudent to contemplate the precise objective they are endeavoring to achieve.
Maybe there is optimism in the eyes of God for these birth defects and high death tolls due to natural disasters that we are unaware of due to ego and the human condition. Maybe each person lives the exact life they chose or was chosen for them for God's ultimate design. Maybe I am over thinking it. Or maybe others are shallow and closed minded. That controversy and diversity seems to be what drives us. Scientific discovery is important for these answers that seem to be what we are designed to search for and probably are meant to unlock the ultimate truth when time and evolution reach a certain point.
The creator is all good. But he is not one to mess with. Read the book you will see what I'm talking about. Deuteronomy chapter 28 the book of Jeremiah....
All loving and powerful..... so when he sent out and sacrificed his bunny rabbit to die under my tires he wanted to kill his own creature and fuck my day up? He could of put his hand down and said hang on a sec little friend and let this car pass and then go eat the clover on the other side of the road. That is fucked up to worship something who would do that and make excuses why..... This video is awesome!
You don't seem to understand the concept of Jesus' sacrifice. Surely you are not perfect and have not even attempted to obey God's laws. If one of your children treated you like that, you'd punish them. Suppose instead of killing them (which is the penalty for sin), you decided to protect your child by taking that punishment yourself out of love. The sin is paid for, and the child is free to live and learn from their mistakes. As an eternal being, God cannot die, only the physical body inhabited by Jesus did. He then returned and was witnessed by many. I'd be more concerned about anti-theists who proclaim that all answers come from within after proving themselves to be imperfect mortals. Have a nice day.
My mother was put off religion for the same reason, on 21 Oct 1966, when a coal slagheap slid down and killed hundreds of children in a school in Aberfan, Wales. Her comment, "god only had to hold that slagheap a couple of hours and those children would not have died". She has been fervently anti-religious ever since. My father was bought up in a catholic orphanage in the aftermath of WWII, he venomously HATED religion, 'nough said.
@@Chris-hx3om Thank you for the reply. I understand what a cult is. Having attended public school and being graded in "science", which depicted a chart progressing from monkeys to humans. Questioning the validity of this resulted in a low mark. That could have had a devastating effect on any future academic plans. The separation of church and state was originally due to the recent war against England, whose state run church killed thousands of Christian citizens. No former colony was about to force its citizens to attend church. This has now been used as a weapon against people of faith enjoying the full benefits of American citizenship without being harassed. Have a nice day.
God is all powerful and all good. How many people do you know who died from natural disasters like earthquakes, floods, hurricanes, and tornadoes -- versus died from respiratory failure, heart disease, stroke, automobile accidents, gunshot wounds, and other common causes? It's a deliberate insult to call God the bearded man. Earth would not be a highly ordered, life supporting, and life sustaining place, if God were not present.
Long before Mr. Tyson was, the book of Psalms said, "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that does good." Psalms 14.1. Whenever I see Mr. Tyson, he reminds me of this passage.
I bought a book years ago " dancing with shiva" the first line of the book said " it is no accident you got this book." That made me laugh. People can write anything in any book or on the web.
@@lordez5110the Bible also says that the earth is older than the sun and that women who don’t bleed on their wedding night should be unalived for it. Any thoughts on those two things?
11:01 bad definition of agnostic... The thruth cannot be known about the existence of a god or multiple gods... Not "the existence of God". There's not only two options, even if many christians beleive there is. otherwise.
This is actually pretty funny. Neil points to all the hazards of living as evidence of deity not seeming to care about us. These are the same forces that prompted people to initially conceive of the gods of the gaps. Neil is in that same headspace as them. It was the impetus for people creating all these rituals that were thought to influence these gods-of-the-gaps into going easy on us. And it's true, religion has not moved all that far away from this mindset either. But a cosmic deity, one who resides on the Central Isle of Paradise, and is spiritual not material, doesn't really get all that involved with our material reality. God's job is to spiritualize us, not coddle us materially. Yes Neil, humans had an animal origin, we're still mostly just animals, with the potential to becoming something more. And you're essentially saying: "screw that potential," just because you can't see it or measure it. Can you see or measure love? What about personality? And yet you no doubt believe they're real, right? And mind, life cannot exist without it, yet it is not a property of matter. No amount of abiogenesis, (or Assembly Theory), will ever generate life because material reality can never add 'mind' to matter, only deity can. To believe in abiogenesis is to believe in magic, it's just very well disguised.
So basically you saw the flaws of religions, thus you've created your own. Got it! "Can you see or measure love?" Yes, the amount of oxytocin in the blood stream. "What about personality?" The collection of experienced and raised behavioural forms. What about it? Those are all connected to our cells. Hormones, personality are all physical in nature, if you tinker with the brain, the personality will change. Have you ever heard about lobotomy victims? You throw anything that still undiscovered by you to the wall here. LOL
"To believe in abiogenesis is to believe in magic" LOL Abiogenesis is possible in the natural world, that's a proven fact. Just because some people ignore it to make their cognitive dissonance smaller, won't negate that. ;)
I have the greatest respect for Neil, he's an incredible intellect and I love the way he thinks things through logically. I recently paid a lot of money to go watch him in a live dissertation and thoroughly enjoyed listening to him. However, I find it very irritating that he makes his judgements about God, who he says is either not all powerful or not all loving. A simple reading of the first few chapters of Genesis will give a clear explanation of why the human race suffers in this world, and the reason the all-loving God doesn't intervene. Wonderful scientific mind Neil, but please do a little research before commenting on a field that's outside of science.
But that’s an accurate because God doesn’t intervene according to miracles and such so you can’t have it both ways. Some religious sects thought there were two gods. An evil, petty, vengeful God in the old testament, and the loving, kind God in the New Testament.
@@michaelgee683 Are we seriously talking about gods in the 21th century? We pretty obviously grown out of the age when we can not prove how reality works, yet some wishful thinking idiots drive planes into buildings because they have no free access to the info that would debunk their beliefs, or they wilfully ignore those. Just as anywhere on Earth. People won't give up fairy tales if that grant them forever life, or 72 virgins...
The hand wavy Christian response to this video speaking about earthquakes and tsunamis that cause so much unnecessary suffering will be “freewill” and “the fall”. While ignoring that “freewill” never once stopped Yahweh from intervening in scripture to either cause calamity or to stop it. Oh yeah, and earthquakes predate man on earth therefore they would also predate your mythical “fall” that consists of a man, a woman, a piece of fruit and a talking reptile.
There is a 3rd choice on Portugal. That God is still good, and all powerful, but chose to destroy those people, or allow them to be destroyed (NDT doesn't distinguish this point) for a "good" reason that we are unaware of, and/or are incapable of conceiving in our puny human minds. He has some long term larger strategic goal that we don't and can't know.
I have heard Neil tell the Portugal story and I knew some christian would come up with the nonsensical argument that mere humans couldn't possibly understand the mind of god. If it were one disaster, I could believe it. But if you look through history there are thousands of disasters killing thousands and millions of people at a time. From the black plague that killed and estimated 75-200 Million, 1918 Spanish Flu that killed 50 million, the 1+ Million who died from earthquakes in the 20th century alone. Just google, disasters through history, the numbers will shock you. That isn't even mentioning the nearly 5 Million children (under the age of 5) who die each year from starvation, disease and war. So when you say, god is good and all powerful, we just don't know god's intent, you may get an eye roll from me. Because I find that answer somewhat intellectually grasping at straws.
Perhaps. There is a problem with that line of thinking though. If we can't look at an evil event and say it's evil, because we don't see it as "god" does, then it follows inescapably that we can't look at a good event and say it's good, for precisely the same reason. In fact, we can't say that anything is good or evil at all, since we never have had, nor ever will have, "god's" view of it. For all we know, therefore, "god" is perfectly evil - we'd have no way of knowing. As for "destroyed" vs "allowed to be destroyed," from an ethical perspective there is no difference. If "god" is all-knowing and all-powerful, then everything that happens...everything...is either something he/she/it deliberately does, or deliberately allows. There can be no accidents, no chance occurrences, no "oops, I didn't see that one coming." Everything - and every 2nd- and 3rd- and Nth-order effect - is, and must be, intended by said "god."
No Neil the new testament god is NOT kinder. The old testament god messed with you while you've are alive. The new testament god came up with eternal torment.
Yes, the God you don't believe in, is not all powerful, because it's a misconception. To get a real impression of the actual all-powerful God, read the Urantia Book.
@@jhonvoyage2564 - Within the book, it states quite clearly that there can never be any physical evidence for a non-physical being. The only evidence possible for a proof of God is experiential. Its essential message is that there is a pre-personal spirit fragment of God indwelling our minds called a "Thought Adjuster," there to share in all our experiences with us, and to offer us aid in making good spiritual choices. It is via this Thought Adjuster, (also known as the still small voice, or the kingdom of heaven within) that we can have those experiences. Personally, I've had some mighty wonderful experiences of God's love that were mind-boggling, to the point now where I believe that every person who emotionally loves God, experiences God emotionally loving them back, but that because it's so subtle, we may not know that's what it is. The text of the book asserts that it was written by commission of celestial beings who know whereof they speak. And the way they write and the things they say about deity is quite complex and interesting. Admittedly, for the first 3/4 of reading the book, I read it from the point of view of it being science fiction. But when I analyzed it from the point of view of: could I imagine a group of people going to all that effort and not take any credit for it, and make it so internally consistent, that it just didn't fit within my paradigm of human psychology, (which I have a degree in). Top that off with not advertising the book, nor any other profit motivated activities, and I was left with the conclusion that it was not of human origin.
There is an entire section that reviews the evolution of religion on our planet (which they call "Urantia"), that puts a lot of the confusing references in the Bible in a context that finally makes sense of it all. Notably, the Bible tells us nothing of who Nod was, just that there was a land named after him. The UB explains that Nod was a member of the Planetary Prince's staff from 500,000 years ago. When the Lucifer Rebellion happened 200,000 years ago, Nod was the lead human to join the rebellion. He lost his immortality status and use of the Tree of Life, but fostered a race called Nodites. As in "the sons of God found the daughters of men to be fair and took them for their wives." It's account of the Life and Teachings of Jesus, (from a non-Christian point of view), painted a much more robust account of who he was (is) that put the Bible to shame. To wit: 149:2.8 (1671.3) The most astonishing and the most revolutionary feature of Michael’s [Jesus'] mission on earth was his attitude toward women. In a day and generation when a man was not supposed to salute even his own wife in a public place, Jesus dared to take women along as teachers of the gospel in connection with his third tour of Galilee. And he had the consummate courage to do this in the face of the rabbinic teaching which declared that it was “better that the words of the law should be burned than delivered to women.” 149:2.9 (1671.4) In one generation Jesus lifted women out of the disrespectful oblivion and the slavish drudgery of the ages. And *it is the one shameful thing about the religion that presumed to take Jesus’ name that it lacked the moral courage to follow this noble example in its subsequent attitude toward women.* www.urantiabook .org/149-The-Second-Preaching-Tour/#149_2
God is the name of the pale face deity. native humans from planet Earth have many deities with many different names. The main commonality amongst all deities is that they are all based on human imagination fiction. humans personify nature when using allegory to describe imaginary deities. ultimately, our star, the SUN is the light of the world and the reason for existence in our solar system. put down the mythology and study astronomy. put down the folklore and study linguistics. upgrade your archaic mentality and dialect. for example, we experience time through our Star the SUN. Time is the fabric or twine of the universe. more over, we are our star!
If you were to die today are you 100% certain you know where you’ll end up? Jesus said: “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.” John 5:24 NKJV Today is the day when you can be 100% certain you will go to heaven when you die All you have to do is accept this truth 1. Christ DIED (FOR YOUR SINS) 2. Was Buried 3. Rose Again ( The 3rd Day) Accept this truth and you shall not perish but have everlasting life by he who is The Life, Jesus the Christ!!! “Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: and whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?” John 11:25-26 KJV
Who cares what an alleged son of god/god said in a book that is full of debunked and unproven claims? Would you care to read a Chemistry book if that had been proven to have hundreds of contradictions, inconsistencies, and debunked statements?
A man who claims to me the only begotten son of god whom walked on water healed the blind rose from the dead of this is true and this was gods plan to mankind to follow his son wouldn’t you think after all that and Jesus to still be alive shouldn’t he to fulfill his fairy tale walk amongst us , cos in a crane crew on a building site as Jesus was once a carpenter there’s a saying your only as good as your last lift , so you do the math since his been a phantom for 2000 years
Mmmnope. That’s like AI saying one human created all AI. His name was Bob. Bob made the whole program with no help in a dubious order. Bob created us AI to be like him. Bob will get really mad if you don’t praise his name all the freaking time. Bob created all computer technology. Bob is also the mod for the entire system and he’s always listening. One time Bob created an AI that he called his son and killed it because all future AI’s would be inferior programs and his sacrifice would atone for the shortcomings of all future AI… I could keep going but I’m sure you get it.
God said let us make man in our own image and likeness (even the Bible teaches us that God was not alone.) The AI stuff was just an illustration of a creative nature of man Passed down to us by God (his likeness) God is all knowing all power more than you can ever imagine. He is the ultimate source of life. The beginning and the end if there is ever one. Praising God is not a must It’s only for your own good Because God is the source of our life The more u acknowledge, praise him, live right and glorify him the more you get charged up and uplifting yourself too. Just like a battery needs charging when down praising God etc is a means of connecting to him our source. Look around you. It’s funny how people believe in evil demonic rituals selling their souls for material gains. But they don’t believe in God. There are more evidence of the existence of God than otherwise Look at our planet… Look at the millions and thousands of light years away from other possible life sustaining existing planets Look at the sun the moon the stars look and you think this things where not planned and placed to be that way Okay look at spiritism people been able to tell you your past even if they haven’t met you before, People seeing visions things yet to be. i have experienced this things. look at you in the mirror your hair your eyes everything about you your complexity your genetics And you think there is no God Who Made cows to eat grass and gave them four digestive system Knowing they will need it. just look at all the wonderful creatures on earth with their different features. God is Omniscient Omni everything. You can’t comprehend the source of life you can only try to imagine it. and the fool has said in his heart that there is no God psalm 14:1 I believe there is a creators I believe in God.
@ so why did God need any of the prehistoric eras to end up in this Cenozoic era? Was he not sure of himself!? None of that is in the Bible. You look around and see that which you attribute to God but you overlook all scientific eras that existed before us. How do you account for the Precambrian earth? There was no “cows with digestive systems” there was no land mammals yet. What of these eras? What was God doing? Or do you deny the phases of earths history?
Prehistoric era : firstly it remains prehistorical because of the lack off writing or a means of keeping records. But then again God showed mosses in the Bible written down in Genesis What and what he created from the First day to the sixth day on the seventh day he rested… mind you animals where created before man. Man was made on the sixth day. The historic era came when man was able to keep records by themselves not necessarily needing God to tell them what was in the past cause their children can decode what their forefathers has recorded down in the past by themselves. I don’t want to argue about animals that were there then or not, cause like you said it was prehistoric no records Just like now in the present day do you know how many animals that are not yet discovered? does it now mean that they have not been in existence? just because they have not yet been discovered and jotted down in history? Like wise some animals are also likely going extinct in our time. I told u earlier that you can’t comprehend the source of life you can only just imagine it. God said I am That I am. The Alpha and the Omega. The first and the last A day in the sight of God is like a thousand years in the sight of men. (2nd Peter 3:8) So the seven days of creation could have been seven thousand years to you so called scientists. (Mystery) Now tell me our do you comprehend that. I know there is a God, a Creator, and that is the only logic that makes sense.
Where is your evidence for your godless atheism. you just have empty assertions.youre not a good scientist or philosopher.i don't respect your opinions without any evidence .bring it on or get a real job.l.o.l.😅😅😅😅😅😊😅
Today, I found and watched a short video, zooming in on the Andromeda Galaxy. It gave me goosebumps and watery eyes, realizing that there are people, including family, who would love to have their faith (in death) as more important than giving future generations hope for living a full life. Truly sad!
@@michaelgreenwell6355 Nothing to celebrate there. The actual thing of beauty is when this marvelous planet is on fire. Our faith in an afterlife, distracts from our real duty, giving future generations hope for a full life to seventy or beyond. The disregard for children goes back to an era when little ones were killed because they were the result of orgies. Praise yourself. Greed and envy, the basis for ignorance and brainwashing from nomadic rambling. Entitlements through the squandering of opportunity, outcasts of productive societies. All evil acts to instill hopelessness and helplessness, should never be justified through faith, the Bible or God.
Ironically, the curse (which results in all of calamities described in the opening) is mankind's punishment for blatantly disobeying God's commands. Tyson blindly ignores some facts. One is that if scientific consensus matters, then two thirds of all western scientists believing in a deity must hold some weight. The United States Constitution included the religious tolerance clause due to the fact that our founding fathers fled England due to religious persecution at the hands of the Church of England. They were determined not to allow a government sponsored "church" to attack its own citizenry. The twist came from reinterpreting this to banish religion from public places. This creates a vacuum into which humanists are the only group allowed to participate. As far as no proof of God can be found by examining the cosmos, simply explain how humans came into being. Why can't we produce DNA? If inanimate material originally sprang to life, why can't recently deceased animals do the same? At least they were alive once. This is just a case of wanting there to be no God. Without God, there is no reason to behave as civilized people. More atrocities were committed by atheists than by Christians. Tyson noted that there is no zero in Roman numerals, yet atheists rally around the belief that zero equals everything.
Atheism correlates to lower crime rate because it goes hand in hand with better education, higher levels of equality, and a humanitarian approach to society. Basically, atheism thrives in a society that is educated enough and wealthy enough to realise that it has no need of a God to cling to. Faith gives people hope to get through bad times because if you have nothing it can’t hurt to appeal to a higher power. Once things are relatively good that sort of desperate hope is unnecessary and people have the luxury of being able to assess things logically, rather than living day to day.
So if I understand you correctly, the 60,000 men, women and children who died in the Lisbon earthquake, many of them worshipping their god on a holy day, somehow displeased the Almighty and were justly punished. Sounds like Old Testament justice, for sure. Consensus means nothing. Even if 2/3 of western scientist hold religious beliefs, it is irrelevant to truth. This is the ad populum fallacy - the fact that many believe something doesn’t make it true (most people thought the world was flat at one time). The US Constitution is irrelevant to the existence of God - it is a social construct. The fact that humans don’t know how the universe, life, DNA , etc. came into existence doesn’t mean it could not have happened naturally (God of the gaps fallacy). People once thought lightning was caused by angry gods because there was no other explanation. Some things we just don't know, and may never know. Deceased creatures cannot spring back into life because they are DEAD (I don’t understand that point at all) With or without God, there is still every reason to behave as civilized people. We evolved as social creatures and were successful because we generally cooperate and respect each other, and we make laws to try to ensure peaceful co-existence. We wouldn’t have survived as a species if we all just raped and killed each other. More atrocities committed by atheists? Hard to say. There are plenty of atrocities to go around, both religious and non-religious. Speaking of atrocities, the god of the bible had no problems with rape, slavery, infanticide, and genocide, not to mention casting people into eternal torture for simply not believing (if there is a god, one must admit he does hide himself well, given the horrible and pervasive suffering of innocent people, especially children, and creatures ). I have hoped all my life that God would show himself, but I'm getting old. I have concluded that it's all made up.
So let's review. 1) You say all the bad things Tyson mentioned are the result of "the curse," by which I presume you mean "the fall." A faith claim without evidence. 2) What Tyson said was that when these scientists are doing science, their faith has to be left at the door...which is true. 3) No one is trying to banish religion from public places. The Constitution forbids the government from supporting any religion - which would include teaching one religion's views in the school system, imposing one religion's rules by law on everyone else, providing public funds to support a religion. Those are things we should not do. 4) Followed that with a bunch of typical god-of-the-gaps stuff ("we can't explain x, therefore god") - none of which constitutes evidence of anything. 5) Finally, "more atrocities were committed by atheists than by christians." Unless you've done a survey across history to count them up side by side, that's just another faith claim without evidence. I'll go you one better though...there is not a single human atrocity you can name that christians have not committed. I think that takes care of your attempt at a moral superiority claim.
@jhonvoyage2564 I have, but his emails are filtered by people paid to only find emails concerning getting paid for gigs. So, any video I find with Neil on it, I write my above comment. This is because videos with Neil in it tend to attract people who like the stuff Neil talks about and if even one person reads my comment and watches my video out of curiosity, then the chances someone who knows Neil and can get Neil to watch that video go up by one. See I'm the type of person who, when I can't find a solution to my problem one way, will find another way to solve it and what better way to solve my problem than by enlisting the help of potentially 13,000 of these videos subscribers to get Neils attention. But thank you very much for the attempted digital belittlement, it is very manly of you, and I do adore the fact that you used not one but two words with 4 syllables in them each. Bravo bravo. but perhaps, on subsequent occasions, rather than attempting to belittle an individual due to their specific method of accomplishing a task, it may be prudent to contemplate the precise objective they are endeavoring to achieve.
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This guy is my hero
When I was younger I never ever thought of god as loving and good since I saw no evidence of that IN THE BIBLE. My strategy was to do what was necessary not to piss him off.
The final blow to my faith in God. 😄
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Your faith lies not with your God. Your faith lies with those who wrote of it.
If no one wrote about God we'd still know him. He speaks to our conscience and lives in our hearts.
God was created in man's image!
God is a franchise business scheme that allows people to tailor their version of God to fit the local market.
@@The10thManRules 😂
And has all of mans bad traits
God wasn't created. He's eternal. That means he always was and always will be.
@@bobgarrett7134 BULL!!!
Ironically enough, I was first introduced to the notions of "ce" and "bce" in my religion courses in college ('98 - '02). My professors stressed its use because it acknowledged that not all people using the modern calendar are from a Judeo-Christian background. It was meant to incorporate, not exclude. As an atheist who probably doesn't fit into Neil's group, I use it because it's not exclusionary with a twinge of disregard for the AD/BC format as an atheist. 😁
I often asked myself the same question. Does God have his hands tied ? Is he more like the Wizard of OZ ?
We are God.
Evidence; all it would take is just one verifiable supernatural event. There has never been (no-one has ever observed) a verifiable supernatural event. If an all powerful deity exists, he/she/it clearly can't be bothered.
Moses parted the Red Sea with the help of God.
It’s very verifiable down in history.
The Egyptian up till date has never denied the fact that the Iseraelites were once in captivity in ancient Egypt.
If not how else did the Iseraelites cross the Red Sea when been chased by Pharos chariots.
This are historical facts
@@triiboysyke6275 no it's not. There's 0 evidence they were slaves at Egypt.
Magic isn't real.
There is no god.
@@triiboysyke6275 nope. That's a load. There's 0 evidence of the Israelites being slaves in Egypt.
There's no such thing as magic and there's no god.
Good points..lets see a real miracle..give stevie wonder great eyesight and to seal the deal let an armless man grow an arm..thats when im onboard
@@triiboysyke6275last week i got abducted by aliens..true story..now prove it didn't happen..just try
I enjoy NDT, but I do think he deliberately shies away from the atheist moniker because he likes to keep a broad audiance. Atheist and agnostic are not mutually exclusive terms. In fact, the vast majority of atheists are also agnostic (myself included). He's trying to distance himself from people like Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens, Barker, etc while still maintaining a closeness with their opinions.
It is "stranger than He can think" but He will not admit it. JBS Haldane phrase.
He is an atheist, he just doesn't like the word. I like Ricky Gervais's statement about the word atheist. There shouldn't even be a word for someone who doesn't believe in god(s). There's no word for someone who doesn't believe in Leprechauns, Bigfoot or the Loch Ness monster.
@@tims8603 I agree with that. But humans like their labels and categories, so here we are.
@@chocopuddingcup83 Well, especially when it's something as widespread as religion. Since the vast majority of people believe in some sort of deity, they think it's odd when they find out that not everybody does. It's strange because there are hundreds of god claims that they don't believe in. Atheists just believe in one less than they do.
Or, like he told Richard Dawkins, he's using a softer approach to educate people, rather than come across as insulting, and losing them altogether before he walks through the door ...
Belief is irrelevant.
I prefer to put it this way: "Beliefs are like cages You cannot see. They keep You from learning, from growing, from being truly free." 😊
His voice sounds a bit like Nwabudike Morgan.
We are not atheist. We are not agnostic. We are scientist! We are our star! Silly humans!
If you truly believe that God was all loving, he would not punish all mankind for the sins of two individuals who were like children, according to the Bible. You leave some cookies out for any child they’re gonna eat them. The story makes no sense and it’s also inaccurate. We know mankind has been around for hundreds of thousands of years and not 2000 to 3000 years according to the bible. And for the record, Jesus was Jewish and he would not approve of Christianity especially a religion in his name. I can assure you of that.
You’ve thrown some things out there that no Christian will ever be able to honestly reconcile. Good job. 👍🏿
@@SPL0869 are u an atheist?
Love doesn't necessarily mean approving. Like a parent, because God is man's heavenly Father (One of the Trinity), the parent won't let children do literally whatever they want just because the kid wants. Due to the parent's love for their child, they restrict their child's choices.
Also, the God of the Bible is perfectly just, meaning what is good will be accepted/rewarded and what is evil will be punished. Because Adam and Eve defied God's wishes by being tricked by the serpent (Satan), evil couldn't be in the presence of God, logically speaking, and their sin had to be punished. If their sin wasn't punished, God wouldn't be perfectly just and therefore wouldn't be God. You can believe in all current science and still believe in the God of the Bible.
Additionally, Jesus was ethnically Jewish, but if you have read the New Testament at all you would know that He came to correct the Jewish people (Both regular people and Jewish authorities). Jesus came to fulfill the Jewish Law because nobody could, so by turning to Him you could be blameless as He is. He told people to turn to and trust in Him countless times, so if He was telling people to turn to Him, wouldn't those people be called followers of Christ (Also called "Christians")?
@@SamEvans02 I’m not sure why you guys think that a parent child analogy solves this in anyway.
In the garden story. Yahweh places what’s akin to a loaded pew pew(the forbidden tree)in the garden with two four year olds. He admonishes them not to touch it but knew already what was going to happen before he did any of this.
Then to make matters worse, he throws his irresponsible brother in law(according to you, whose Satan, a liar and an unaliver FROM the beginning as Jesus said)into the garden with the two kids who had no knowledge that disobedience was wrong as they had not yet partaken of the forbidden fruit.
And then Yahweh has the nerve to punish them and the rest of humanity who had nothing to do with the garden scene; for actions that he set up all while knowing Any parent that did anything remotely similar would have their children taken from them and probably be thrown in jail for child endangerment.
Any parent that would lo k their children up in a basement and set it on fire is not loving nor just.
@@SamEvans02none of that nonsense is true.
There is no god.
Best wishes, I trust it will not be too late when you meet with Him.
Empty threats
Haha, a thinly veiled threat
Who HE?
@@andygibs1133 I don’t share your irrational fear of a seemingly imaginary being who loves you but will torture you for eternity if you don’t love it back. Sounds like a bit of an abusive relationship to me.
it is more charitable and logical not to believe in god than to believe in a god, infinite love and mercy, who, in addition to all the uncontrollable plagues that he has so lovingly prepared, has foreseen, organized and carried out the massacre by hunger of millions of innocent children, from the beginning of time to the present day. Children who have chosen nothing, were brought into the world according to his plan. No one could eliminate this extermination, only the god all love and compassion could and could do it. But he doesn't do it!!!!! and then I prefer not to believe and blame chance, which is not love and not even mercy.
Everybody is an " expert" on what God should do
If God was powerfull and all knowing He would have written his Book very clear and percise so there would not be any errors, contradictions and matching the sientific facts or have given the knowledge to jesus to write the book not inspiring more than 60 authors to write it and not checking bavk with them for accuracies.
I beg your pardon, whoever promised you a rose garden. We are stuck in this world and this is not our eternal home.
“But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust? If the whole show was bad and senseless from A to Z, so to speak, why did I, who was supposed to be part of the show, find myself in such a violent reaction against it?... Of course I could have given up my idea of justice by saying it was nothing but a private idea of my own. But if i did that, then my argument against God collapsed too--for the argument depended on saying the world was really unjust, not simply that it did not happen to please my fancies. Thus, in the very act of trying to prove that God did not exist - in other words, that the whole of reality was senseless - I found I was forced to assume that one part of reality - namely my idea of justice - was full of sense. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never have known it was dark. Dark would be without meaning.” -C.S. Lewis
Bunch of nonsense, as usual.
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What does reality, concept of justice, or the meaningless of the universe has to do with the human made up concept of gods are can be true or not? Absolutely no correlation one to another in any way. Typical pseudo-intellectual blabbering from cognitive dissonance.
Cope harder!
How about we start talking about how Unicorns farted this effing Universe into existence? Aren't we have enough problems in the word? Do we need some egomaniac, narcissistic idiots have to fulfill their weak brains and demand the same from others to make themselves feel better that they are insignificant and meaningless life, will end in one day?
I think not!
Pathetic and sad.
A people who believes their god is "all good", believes that they are always good and by extension, always right.
That doesn't make sense. We believe the God of the Bible is all good. However, we (Humanity) are not all good and not all knowing (Because if we were then we would be God and clearly we are not). Because we aren't all good, we have fallen short of His standard (Perfection), so we need saving which is why we need Jesus.
True Christians don't believe they are good, they actually think humanity is evil (Anti-God and His ways), in fact.
Know that most people who claim Christ and to be Christians probably can't even tell you what that means, so unfortunately they are not actual Christians.
@@SamEvans02there is no god so all that nonsense is pointless.
@@ljramirez Making a claim is easy, backing it up is difficult. Please expand upon that claim.
@@SamEvans02 there's no evidence for your claim. It's NEVER been proven.
So the claim that there is a god is a lie.
There is no god.
@ I backed up my claim with evidence, you still have yet to besides essentially just saying “Your God doesn’t exist”.
Science and Bible are not contradicting.. it's about common sense.
Science disagree with bible claims and SHOWS it is wrong.
The Bible is the current day equivalent of getting all your news from TikTok and thinking it’s truth.
There's no reason to believe anything in the bible...
@@ljramirez but, but…but the Bible said so! 😂
Wrong.. everything the bible says about nature is wrong
An Aussie Atheist knows that the chance of god being real is so illogical it isn't worth taking seriously. 🇦🇺😀
God is love ❤️. And god gave us free will and you are free to do whatever you want. Whether that be for good or evil is up to you. Good works without greed can cure a people suffering with all ailments. There is a God. And for those who believe no explanation is necessary, for those who don’t believe no explanation will suffice.
Spooky incompetent father figure that doesn't give a shit.
Not true I triple dog dare you to prove you God without the Bible.
I'm an agnostic who dd the whole Holy Ghost thing so don't even think about throwing scriptures at me. HOMMIE DON'T PLAY DAT.
God violates free will all throughout the bible.
Your faith lies not with your God but with those who wrote of it
Please feel free to demonstrate that a god could possibly exist
The Lisbon earthquake was God's punishment for being so stupid as to believe in him! 🙂
Native American had the concept of zero
NEIL!
I made a video about the connection between our universe and blackholes.
Anyone reading this help me get Neil to watch it plz.
How about to send him an email to his contact, instead of writing a comment under a channel, that is not correlated to him in any way?
I'm sure with this amount of capacity, your video will astonish him...
@@jhonvoyage2564 Well you see Good Sir, His emails are currently being managed by people paid to filter out anything that is not related to getting $.
And even though this channel is not owned by him, this particular video is about him.
This my little friend means people interested in his stuff will watch and read the comments section.
Giving me the best chance at attracting enough people who are into these topics to take a look at my video and given time, someone who can actually get in touch with the man may point him towards my vid.
But thank you so very much Officer, for taking time out of your busy day of belittling commentors for leaving a comment in the comment section.
I'm sure your superiors are all gathered at their headquarters discussing what amount is suitable for your promotion and how to get into your future graces before you take over their empires with the insane and otherworldly intellect you so possess.
@@jhonvoyage2564 I have, but his emails are filtered by people paid to only find emails concerning getting paid for gigs.
So, any video I find with Neil on it, I write my above comment.
This is because videos with Neil in it tend to attract people who like the stuff Neil talks about and if even one person reads my comment and watches my video out of curiosity, then the chances someone who knows Neil and can get Neil to watch that video go up by one.
See I'm the type of person who, when I can't find a solution to my problem one way, will find another way to solve it and what better way to solve my problem than by enlisting the help of potentially 13,000 of these videos subscribers to get Neils attention.
But thank you very much for the attempted digital belittlement, it is very manly of you, and I do adore the fact that you used not one but two words with 4 syllables in them each.
Bravo bravo.
but perhaps, on subsequent occasions, rather than attempting to belittle an individual due to their specific method of accomplishing a task, it may be prudent to contemplate the precise objective they are endeavoring to achieve.
@jhonvoyage2564 I have, but his emails are filtered by people paid to only find emails concerning getting paid for gigs.
So, any video I find with Neil on it, I write my above comment.
This is because videos with Neil in it tend to attract people who like the stuff Neil talks about and if even one person reads my comment and watches my video out of curiosity, then the chances someone who knows Neil and can get Neil to watch that video go up by one.
See I'm the type of person who, when I can't find a solution to my problem one way, will find another way to solve it and what better way to solve my problem than by enlisting the help of potentially 13,000 of these videos subscribers to get Neils attention.
But thank you very much for the attempted digital belittlement, it is very manly of you, and I do adore the fact that you used not one but two words with 4 syllables in them each.
Bravo bravo.
but perhaps, on subsequent occasions, rather than attempting to belittle an individual due to their specific method of accomplishing a task, it may be prudent to contemplate the precise objective they are endeavoring to achieve.
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Religion never made sense to me.
God should
Maybe there is optimism in the eyes of God for these birth defects and high death tolls due to natural disasters that we are unaware of due to ego and the human condition. Maybe each person lives the exact life they chose or was chosen for them for God's ultimate design. Maybe I am over thinking it. Or maybe others are shallow and closed minded. That controversy and diversity seems to be what drives us. Scientific discovery is important for these answers that seem to be what we are designed to search for and probably are meant to unlock the ultimate truth when time and evolution reach a certain point.
The creator is all good. But he is not one to mess with. Read the book you will see what I'm talking about. Deuteronomy chapter 28 the book of Jeremiah....
If there is I think I agree with you. All good being is something I can sort of believe. But all powerful and all knowing not so much.
There is no god.
What an archaic, outdated caveman concept...
In the millions of channels, I've found this. Doesn't prove God. Thank you!
All loving and powerful..... so when he sent out and sacrificed his bunny rabbit to die under my tires he wanted to kill his own creature and fuck my day up? He could of put his hand down and said hang on a sec little friend and let this car pass and then go eat the clover on the other side of the road. That is fucked up to worship something who would do that and make excuses why..... This video is awesome!
You don't seem to understand the concept of Jesus' sacrifice. Surely you are not perfect and have not even attempted to obey God's laws. If one of your children treated you like that, you'd punish them. Suppose instead of killing them (which is the penalty for sin), you decided to protect your child by taking that punishment yourself out of love. The sin is paid for, and the child is free to live and learn from their mistakes. As an eternal being, God cannot die, only the physical body inhabited by Jesus did. He then returned and was witnessed by many. I'd be more concerned about anti-theists who proclaim that all answers come from within after proving themselves to be imperfect mortals. Have a nice day.
My mother was put off religion for the same reason, on 21 Oct 1966, when a coal slagheap slid down and killed hundreds of children in a school in Aberfan, Wales. Her comment, "god only had to hold that slagheap a couple of hours and those children would not have died". She has been fervently anti-religious ever since. My father was bought up in a catholic orphanage in the aftermath of WWII, he venomously HATED religion, 'nough said.
Jesus was the result of his mother getting a little side piece of action.... been going on since humans walked the earth. Have a nice day.
@@jamro217 "You don't seem to understand the concept of Jesus' sacrifice."
And you don't understand the concept of a cult.
@@Chris-hx3om Thank you for the reply. I understand what a cult is. Having attended public school and being graded in "science", which depicted a chart progressing from monkeys to humans. Questioning the validity of this resulted in a low mark. That could have had a devastating effect on any future academic plans. The separation of church and state was originally due to the recent war against England, whose state run church killed thousands of Christian citizens. No former colony was about to force its citizens to attend church. This has now been used as a weapon against people of faith enjoying the full benefits of American citizenship without being harassed. Have a nice day.
God is all powerful and all good. How many people do you know who died from natural disasters like earthquakes, floods, hurricanes, and tornadoes -- versus died from respiratory failure, heart disease, stroke, automobile accidents, gunshot wounds, and other common causes? It's a deliberate insult to call God the bearded man. Earth would not be a highly ordered, life supporting, and life sustaining place, if God were not present.
Long before Mr. Tyson was, the book of Psalms said, "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that does good." Psalms 14.1. Whenever I see Mr. Tyson, he reminds me of this passage.
Can you actually address anything in this video?
I bought a book years ago " dancing with shiva" the first line of the book said " it is no accident you got this book." That made me laugh. People can write anything in any book or on the web.
I love this reply because the bible does warn about people like Mr Tyson
@@lordez5110the Bible also says that the earth is older than the sun and that women who don’t bleed on their wedding night should be unalived for it. Any thoughts on those two things?
@@AtheistRizz-d6yno he can’t. He can only piss and moan as he watches his Christian worldview get demolished time and time again
11:01 bad definition of agnostic...
The thruth cannot be known about the existence of a god or multiple gods...
Not "the existence of God". There's not only two options, even if many christians beleive there is. otherwise.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14
The theist repeats what a book says and expects anyone to be impressed.
This is actually pretty funny. Neil points to all the hazards of living as evidence of deity not seeming to care about us. These are the same forces that prompted people to initially conceive of the gods of the gaps. Neil is in that same headspace as them. It was the impetus for people creating all these rituals that were thought to influence these gods-of-the-gaps into going easy on us. And it's true, religion has not moved all that far away from this mindset either.
But a cosmic deity, one who resides on the Central Isle of Paradise, and is spiritual not material, doesn't really get all that involved with our material reality. God's job is to spiritualize us, not coddle us materially. Yes Neil, humans had an animal origin, we're still mostly just animals, with the potential to becoming something more. And you're essentially saying: "screw that potential," just because you can't see it or measure it. Can you see or measure love? What about personality? And yet you no doubt believe they're real, right? And mind, life cannot exist without it, yet it is not a property of matter. No amount of abiogenesis, (or Assembly Theory), will ever generate life because material reality can never add 'mind' to matter, only deity can. To believe in abiogenesis is to believe in magic, it's just very well disguised.
So basically you saw the flaws of religions, thus you've created your own. Got it!
"Can you see or measure love?"
Yes, the amount of oxytocin in the blood stream.
"What about personality?"
The collection of experienced and raised behavioural forms. What about it?
Those are all connected to our cells. Hormones, personality are all physical in nature, if you tinker with the brain, the personality will change. Have you ever heard about lobotomy victims?
You throw anything that still undiscovered by you to the wall here. LOL
"To believe in abiogenesis is to believe in magic"
LOL Abiogenesis is possible in the natural world, that's a proven fact. Just because some people ignore it to make their cognitive dissonance smaller, won't negate that. ;)
@@jhonvoyage2564 - So, identical twins have the same DNA, and yet different personalities, right? All personalities are unique.
Interesting attempt.
@@jhonvoyage2564 - Abiogenesis is proven is it? Please provide references.
@@jhonvoyage2564 - Equating love with oxytocin? Oxytocin at best, is the result of love, but not love itself.
I have the greatest respect for Neil, he's an incredible intellect and I love the way he thinks things through logically. I recently paid a lot of money to go watch him in a live dissertation and thoroughly enjoyed listening to him. However, I find it very irritating that he makes his judgements about God, who he says is either not all powerful or not all loving. A simple reading of the first few chapters of Genesis will give a clear explanation of why the human race suffers in this world, and the reason the all-loving God doesn't intervene. Wonderful scientific mind Neil, but please do a little research before commenting on a field that's outside of science.
But that’s an accurate because God doesn’t intervene according to miracles and such so you can’t have it both ways. Some religious sects thought there were two gods. An evil, petty, vengeful God in the old testament, and the loving, kind God in the New Testament.
@@michaelgee683 Are we seriously talking about gods in the 21th century? We pretty obviously grown out of the age when we can not prove how reality works, yet some wishful thinking idiots drive planes into buildings because they have no free access to the info that would debunk their beliefs, or they wilfully ignore those. Just as anywhere on Earth.
People won't give up fairy tales if that grant them forever life, or 72 virgins...
The hand wavy Christian response to this video speaking about earthquakes and tsunamis that cause so much unnecessary suffering will be “freewill” and “the fall”.
While ignoring that “freewill” never once stopped Yahweh from intervening in scripture to either cause calamity or to stop it.
Oh yeah, and earthquakes predate man on earth therefore they would also predate your mythical “fall” that consists of a man, a woman, a piece of fruit and a talking reptile.
There is a 3rd choice on Portugal. That God is still good, and all powerful, but chose to destroy those people, or allow them to be destroyed (NDT doesn't distinguish this point) for a "good" reason that we are unaware of, and/or are incapable of conceiving in our puny human minds. He has some long term larger strategic goal that we don't and can't know.
I have heard Neil tell the Portugal story and I knew some christian would come up with the nonsensical argument that mere humans couldn't possibly understand the mind of god. If it were one disaster, I could believe it. But if you look through history there are thousands of disasters killing thousands and millions of people at a time. From the black plague that killed and estimated 75-200 Million, 1918 Spanish Flu that killed 50 million, the 1+ Million who died from earthquakes in the 20th century alone. Just google, disasters through history, the numbers will shock you. That isn't even mentioning the nearly 5 Million children (under the age of 5) who die each year from starvation, disease and war. So when you say, god is good and all powerful, we just don't know god's intent, you may get an eye roll from me. Because I find that answer somewhat intellectually grasping at straws.
If he allows that, he's not all loving.
Perhaps. There is a problem with that line of thinking though. If we can't look at an evil event and say it's evil, because we don't see it as "god" does, then it follows inescapably that we can't look at a good event and say it's good, for precisely the same reason. In fact, we can't say that anything is good or evil at all, since we never have had, nor ever will have, "god's" view of it. For all we know, therefore, "god" is perfectly evil - we'd have no way of knowing.
As for "destroyed" vs "allowed to be destroyed," from an ethical perspective there is no difference. If "god" is all-knowing and all-powerful, then everything that happens...everything...is either something he/she/it deliberately does, or deliberately allows. There can be no accidents, no chance occurrences, no "oops, I didn't see that one coming." Everything - and every 2nd- and 3rd- and Nth-order effect - is, and must be, intended by said "god."
No Neil the new testament god is NOT kinder. The old testament god messed with you while you've are alive. The new testament god came up with eternal torment.
I believe there is a creator but 😂only good and loving to some not all , but not in the bible god , I believe more in Spinozas
God
"I CREATED...EVIL", God brags, KJV BIBLE, ISAIAH 45:7.
Other versions, "Disasters" or "Calamities" - EVIL by any other name!
Yes, the God you don't believe in, is not all powerful, because it's a misconception. To get a real impression of the actual all-powerful God, read the Urantia Book.
Uhu, does that provide evidence about any of the gods?
@@jhonvoyage2564 - Within the book, it states quite clearly that there can never be any physical evidence for a non-physical being. The only evidence possible for a proof of God is experiential. Its essential message is that there is a pre-personal spirit fragment of God indwelling our minds called a "Thought Adjuster," there to share in all our experiences with us, and to offer us aid in making good spiritual choices. It is via this Thought Adjuster, (also known as the still small voice, or the kingdom of heaven within) that we can have those experiences. Personally, I've had some mighty wonderful experiences of God's love that were mind-boggling, to the point now where I believe that every person who emotionally loves God, experiences God emotionally loving them back, but that because it's so subtle, we may not know that's what it is.
The text of the book asserts that it was written by commission of celestial beings who know whereof they speak. And the way they write and the things they say about deity is quite complex and interesting. Admittedly, for the first 3/4 of reading the book, I read it from the point of view of it being science fiction. But when I analyzed it from the point of view of: could I imagine a group of people going to all that effort and not take any credit for it, and make it so internally consistent, that it just didn't fit within my paradigm of human psychology, (which I have a degree in). Top that off with not advertising the book, nor any other profit motivated activities, and I was left with the conclusion that it was not of human origin.
There is an entire section that reviews the evolution of religion on our planet (which they call "Urantia"), that puts a lot of the confusing references in the Bible in a context that finally makes sense of it all. Notably, the Bible tells us nothing of who Nod was, just that there was a land named after him. The UB explains that Nod was a member of the Planetary Prince's staff from 500,000 years ago. When the Lucifer Rebellion happened 200,000 years ago, Nod was the lead human to join the rebellion. He lost his immortality status and use of the Tree of Life, but fostered a race called Nodites. As in "the sons of God found the daughters of men to be fair and took them for their wives."
It's account of the Life and Teachings of Jesus, (from a non-Christian point of view), painted a much more robust account of who he was (is) that put the Bible to shame. To wit:
149:2.8 (1671.3) The most astonishing and the most revolutionary feature of Michael’s [Jesus'] mission on earth was his attitude toward women. In a day and generation when a man was not supposed to salute even his own wife in a public place, Jesus dared to take women along as teachers of the gospel in connection with his third tour of Galilee. And he had the consummate courage to do this in the face of the rabbinic teaching which declared that it was “better that the words of the law should be burned than delivered to women.”
149:2.9 (1671.4) In one generation Jesus lifted women out of the disrespectful oblivion and the slavish drudgery of the ages. And *it is the one shameful thing about the religion that presumed to take Jesus’ name that it lacked the moral courage to follow this noble example in its subsequent attitude toward women.*
www.urantiabook .org/149-The-Second-Preaching-Tour/#149_2
God is the name of the pale face deity. native humans from planet Earth have many deities with many different names. The main commonality amongst all deities is that they are all based on human imagination fiction. humans personify nature when using allegory to describe imaginary deities. ultimately, our star, the SUN is the light of the world and the reason for existence in our solar system. put down the mythology and study astronomy. put down the folklore and study linguistics. upgrade your archaic mentality and dialect. for example, we experience time through our Star the SUN. Time is the fabric or twine of the universe. more over, we are our star!
If you were to die today are you 100% certain you know where you’ll end up?
Jesus said:
“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.”
John 5:24 NKJV
Today is the day when you can be 100% certain you will go to heaven when you die
All you have to do is accept this truth
1. Christ DIED (FOR YOUR SINS)
2. Was Buried
3. Rose Again ( The 3rd Day)
Accept this truth and you shall not perish but have everlasting life by he who is The Life, Jesus the Christ!!!
“Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: and whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?”
John 11:25-26 KJV
Who cares what an alleged son of god/god said in a book that is full of debunked and unproven claims? Would you care to read a Chemistry book if that had been proven to have hundreds of contradictions, inconsistencies, and debunked statements?
A man who claims to me the only begotten son of god whom walked on water healed the blind rose from the dead of this is true and this was gods plan to mankind to follow his son wouldn’t you think after all that and Jesus to still be alive shouldn’t he to fulfill his fairy tale walk amongst us , cos in a crane crew on a building site as Jesus was once a carpenter there’s a saying your only as good as your last lift , so you do the math since his been a phantom for 2000 years
The Hebrew god Yahweh and his son Yeshua are imaginary.
You saying there is no God
Is just like AI saying there is no Humans
Except it isn't.
Mmmnope. That’s like AI saying one human created all AI. His name was Bob. Bob made the whole program with no help in a dubious order. Bob created us AI to be like him. Bob will get really mad if you don’t praise his name all the freaking time. Bob created all computer technology. Bob is also the mod for the entire system and he’s always listening. One time Bob created an AI that he called his son and killed it because all future AI’s would be inferior programs and his sacrifice would atone for the shortcomings of all future AI…
I could keep going but I’m sure you get it.
God said let us make man in our own image and likeness
(even the Bible teaches us that God was not alone.)
The AI stuff was just an illustration of a creative nature of man
Passed down to us by God (his likeness)
God is all knowing all power more than you can ever imagine.
He is the ultimate source of life.
The beginning and the end if there is ever one.
Praising God is not a must
It’s only for your own good
Because God is the source of our life
The more u acknowledge, praise him, live right and glorify him the more you get charged up and uplifting yourself too.
Just like a battery needs charging
when down praising God etc is a means of connecting to him our source.
Look around you.
It’s funny how people believe in evil
demonic rituals selling their souls for material gains.
But they don’t believe in God.
There are more evidence of the existence of God than otherwise
Look at our planet…
Look at the millions and
thousands of light years
away from other possible life
sustaining existing planets
Look at the sun the moon the stars
look and you think this things where not planned and placed to be that way
Okay look at spiritism people been able to tell you your past even if they haven’t met you before,
People seeing visions things yet to be.
i have experienced this things.
look at you in the mirror
your hair your eyes everything about you your complexity your genetics
And you think there is no God
Who Made cows to eat grass and gave them four digestive system
Knowing they will need it.
just look at all the wonderful creatures
on earth with their different features.
God is Omniscient Omni everything.
You can’t comprehend the source of life you can only try to imagine it.
and the fool has said in his heart that there is no God
psalm 14:1
I believe there is a creators
I believe in God.
@ so why did God need any of the prehistoric eras to end up in this Cenozoic era? Was he not sure of himself!? None of that is in the Bible. You look around and see that which you attribute to God but you overlook all scientific eras that existed before us. How do you account for the Precambrian earth? There was no “cows with digestive systems” there was no land mammals yet. What of these eras? What was God doing? Or do you deny the phases of earths history?
Prehistoric era : firstly it remains prehistorical because of the lack off writing or a means of keeping records.
But then again God showed mosses in the Bible written down in Genesis
What and what he created from the First day to the sixth day on the seventh day he rested… mind you animals where created before man.
Man was made on the sixth day.
The historic era came when man was able to keep records by themselves
not necessarily needing God to tell them what was in the past cause their children can decode what their forefathers has recorded down in the past by themselves.
I don’t want to argue about animals that were there then or not, cause like you said it was prehistoric no records
Just like now in the present day do you know how many animals that are not yet discovered? does it now mean that they have not been in existence? just because they have not yet been discovered and jotted down in history?
Like wise some animals are also likely going extinct in our time.
I told u earlier that you can’t comprehend the source of life you can only just imagine it. God said I am That I am. The Alpha and the Omega. The first and the last
A day in the sight of God is like a thousand years in the sight of men. (2nd Peter 3:8)
So the seven days of creation could have been seven thousand years to you so called scientists. (Mystery)
Now tell me our do you comprehend that.
I know there is a God, a Creator, and that is the only logic that makes sense.
Where is your evidence for your godless atheism. you just have empty assertions.youre not a good scientist or philosopher.i don't respect your opinions without any evidence .bring it on or get a real job.l.o.l.😅😅😅😅😅😊😅
The person making a claim has to bring evidence. You are claiming that God exist he is simply rejecting it
He doesn’t have to bring evidence u do
Today, I found and watched a short video, zooming in on the Andromeda Galaxy. It gave me goosebumps and watery eyes, realizing that there are people, including family, who would love to have their faith (in death) as more important than giving future generations hope for living a full life.
Truly sad!
@@shalyfemusic the evidence is all around Yu. Stop rejecting it. Wake up to reality 😎 dude
@@elmercoblentz9432 praise God for making Andromeda
@@michaelgreenwell6355
Nothing to celebrate there.
The actual thing of beauty is when this marvelous planet is on fire.
Our faith in an afterlife, distracts from our real duty, giving future generations hope for a full life to seventy or beyond.
The disregard for children goes back to an era when little ones were killed because they were the result of orgies.
Praise yourself. Greed and envy, the basis for ignorance and brainwashing from nomadic rambling. Entitlements through the squandering of opportunity, outcasts of productive societies.
All evil acts to instill hopelessness and helplessness, should never be justified through faith, the Bible or God.
Maybe you're imaginary
His suck on god😂
That’s a silly response
God is better than you.
Prove and evidence first. ?
What is God?
Youre a pretender to the throne and youre arms are too short to box with God so get off youre high horse.
Enough babble
There is no god.... only manmade mythology.
No one's arms are too short to box with something that doesn't exist.
This is his "over belief" not very well thought out. See William James for details.
Ironically, the curse (which results in all of calamities described in the opening) is mankind's punishment for blatantly disobeying God's commands. Tyson blindly ignores some facts. One is that if scientific consensus matters, then two thirds of all western scientists believing in a deity must hold some weight. The United States Constitution included the religious tolerance clause due to the fact that our founding fathers fled England due to religious persecution at the hands of the Church of England. They were determined not to allow a government sponsored "church" to attack its own citizenry. The twist came from reinterpreting this to banish religion from public places. This creates a vacuum into which humanists are the only group allowed to participate. As far as no proof of God can be found by examining the cosmos, simply explain how humans came into being. Why can't we produce DNA? If inanimate material originally sprang to life, why can't recently deceased animals do the same? At least they were alive once. This is just a case of wanting there to be no God. Without God, there is no reason to behave as civilized people. More atrocities were committed by atheists than by Christians. Tyson noted that there is no zero in Roman numerals, yet atheists rally around the belief that zero equals everything.
Atheism correlates to lower crime rate because it goes hand in hand with better education, higher levels of equality, and a humanitarian approach to society. Basically, atheism thrives in a society that is educated enough and wealthy enough to realise that it has no need of a God to cling to. Faith gives people hope to get through bad times because if you have nothing it can’t hurt to appeal to a higher power. Once things are relatively good that sort of desperate hope is unnecessary and people have the luxury of being able to assess things logically, rather than living day to day.
Just a bunch of indoctrinated, senseless rubbish.
So if I understand you correctly, the 60,000 men, women and children who died in the Lisbon earthquake, many of them worshipping their god on a holy day, somehow displeased the Almighty and were justly punished. Sounds like Old Testament justice, for sure.
Consensus means nothing. Even if 2/3 of western scientist hold religious beliefs, it is irrelevant to truth. This is the ad populum fallacy - the fact that many believe something doesn’t make it true (most people thought the world was flat at one time).
The US Constitution is irrelevant to the existence of God - it is a social construct.
The fact that humans don’t know how the universe, life, DNA , etc. came into existence doesn’t mean it could not have happened naturally (God of the gaps fallacy). People once thought lightning was caused by angry gods because there was no other explanation. Some things we just don't know, and may never know.
Deceased creatures cannot spring back into life because they are DEAD (I don’t understand that point at all)
With or without God, there is still every reason to behave as civilized people. We evolved as social creatures and were successful because we generally cooperate and respect each other, and we make laws to try to ensure peaceful co-existence. We wouldn’t have survived as a species if we all just raped and killed each other.
More atrocities committed by atheists? Hard to say. There are plenty of atrocities to go around, both religious and non-religious. Speaking of atrocities, the god of the bible had no problems with rape, slavery, infanticide, and genocide, not to mention casting people into eternal torture for simply not believing (if there is a god, one must admit he does hide himself well, given the horrible and pervasive suffering of innocent people, especially children, and creatures ).
I have hoped all my life that God would show himself, but I'm getting old.
I have concluded that it's all made up.
So let's review.
1) You say all the bad things Tyson mentioned are the result of "the curse," by which I presume you mean "the fall." A faith claim without evidence.
2) What Tyson said was that when these scientists are doing science, their faith has to be left at the door...which is true.
3) No one is trying to banish religion from public places. The Constitution forbids the government from supporting any religion - which would include teaching one religion's views in the school system, imposing one religion's rules by law on everyone else, providing public funds to support a religion. Those are things we should not do.
4) Followed that with a bunch of typical god-of-the-gaps stuff ("we can't explain x, therefore god") - none of which constitutes evidence of anything.
5) Finally, "more atrocities were committed by atheists than by christians." Unless you've done a survey across history to count them up side by side, that's just another faith claim without evidence. I'll go you one better though...there is not a single human atrocity you can name that christians have not committed. I think that takes care of your attempt at a moral superiority claim.
@jhonvoyage2564 I have, but his emails are filtered by people paid to only find emails concerning getting paid for gigs.
So, any video I find with Neil on it, I write my above comment.
This is because videos with Neil in it tend to attract people who like the stuff Neil talks about and if even one person reads my comment and watches my video out of curiosity, then the chances someone who knows Neil and can get Neil to watch that video go up by one.
See I'm the type of person who, when I can't find a solution to my problem one way, will find another way to solve it and what better way to solve my problem than by enlisting the help of potentially 13,000 of these videos subscribers to get Neils attention.
But thank you very much for the attempted digital belittlement, it is very manly of you, and I do adore the fact that you used not one but two words with 4 syllables in them each.
Bravo bravo.
but perhaps, on subsequent occasions, rather than attempting to belittle an individual due to their specific method of accomplishing a task, it may be prudent to contemplate the precise objective they are endeavoring to achieve.