Eh, in my opinion he's too one dimensional. Yeah he can remove buffs and sponge some damage but that feels a bit too little nowadays. What's the tradeoff? No cover null, timed CD speed, timed support, no card destruction, no card sealing, conditional support, no sub count manipulation, zero damage, all that just to remove buff effects? Compare him to the F2P 18 who has unconditional CD speed (can go to LVL 2), permanent support, sub count manipulation, team heal, dragon ball gaining, card sealing, etc. People gonna say "what do you expect he's free" when you should want to advocate for BETTER F2P units. Make YEL 18 the standard and keep going from there, who wouldn't want better and better free units? This Goten won't see play a week from now and sure as hell isn't gonna see more than YEL 18.
@@Raiyuden I 100% agree honestly, I also didn't like this Goten, and wish they would invest more time in F2P characters such as the free Ultras or Armor Piccolo, the only F2P "re-use" character i enjoyed was the GRN pod Freeza, because his immobilizer green card and Blue card spam was pretty bonkers when he released!
I dont agree, and its coming from a guy who used the f2p 18 lile 500 matches the last 3 seasons. Yes 18 has more stuff like better cds and damage but the only valuable thing she has better than goten is the sub count manipulation. The card slot isn't that usefulin this meta with units comboing for this long. Goten he'sa lot more tanky and the cancel buff effects he has it's too good in this meta. So i prefer goten because are supporting but goten its just a better defensive unit and even if18 has better cds and card null it doesn't matter both are not doing damage Raiyuden
End of the day f2p it's a better pick I u want more damage and stuff to support allies but goten 40% is good enough and he's just better tank in this meta and a better 3rd than 18
Rai kept trying to combo with this guy and then got mad he didn't perform, it was kind of annoying to watch. I'm glad to see you using him properly (defense + support only).
Enough about Raiyuden and Goresh's differing opinions. It's honestly pathetic seeing people pit them against eachother because they have a differing opinion. The beauty of watching different content creators of the same content is that they aren't the same people. Both Goresh and Rai very much are correct here. Goten is a great tank and decent support, but the fact of the matter is that he really ONLY is a good tank. He doesn't offer much else than good damage mitigation besides a little suppprt. A ki disrupt of 10 is useless in this meta when a single charge step can mitigate that. Goten is facing the immense powercreep Legends has introduced, and yet still can give it a run for it's money. He's just sub par, but not abysmal. The standard for f2p units needs to be raised, because the game makes so much fucking money that the least they can do is offer f2p players good alternatives to keep up. Some people can't afford to spend money on a live service game where the money spent will be irrelevant when the game shuts down. Most importantly, acting like one of these content creators is better than the other is disgusting. We're not fucking 5 year old children. Show some fucking respect.
Rai is critical here because the Goten support isn't enough to offset the "zero damage" he does and everyone doesn't have their units 14* like Goresh so yeah Goten sucks but not on the defensive end ☮️✌🏻
I feel like F2P Units should have a gimmick, like you would POTENTIALLY choose them over a premium unit, but only if you like their gimmick, or you don’t have the premium version of the unit. (You ain’t using Goten over ULTHAN)
Honestly goresh, I tried this team out cause it looked fun and it actually cooks. Plus it’s got a lot of survivability cause of all 3 of them taking buff affects and also the constant healing
A lot of people talking about Raiyu's opinion, I don't blame him for having a bad opinion on Goten, he done goof a lot of times in his showcase to the point yeah its a skill issue but its just him not having or little to no sleep as also tells in Raiyu's Showcase. I'm gonna compare this video to Raiyu's video as With Sleep vs with no sleep. Lmao
@@kylerolsen4300 both are still giving support while bringing a lot of utility to the table V/t are tankier than pan is and heal more and the damage is 10x higher Red beast is iffy but vanish removal is still strong
Its good to see goresh and rai having a different opinion about this new f2p unit
Goresh has the right opinion
Always trust the guy with better skill. Aka, the homie.
Goresh x rai love story
The difference is that Goresh knows how to play the game
Yummers
The contrast between this video and Raiyuden's showcase on this unit is insane.
Eh, in my opinion he's too one dimensional. Yeah he can remove buffs and sponge some damage but that feels a bit too little nowadays. What's the tradeoff? No cover null, timed CD speed, timed support, no card destruction, no card sealing, conditional support, no sub count manipulation, zero damage, all that just to remove buff effects? Compare him to the F2P 18 who has unconditional CD speed (can go to LVL 2), permanent support, sub count manipulation, team heal, dragon ball gaining, card sealing, etc.
People gonna say "what do you expect he's free" when you should want to advocate for BETTER F2P units. Make YEL 18 the standard and keep going from there, who wouldn't want better and better free units? This Goten won't see play a week from now and sure as hell isn't gonna see more than YEL 18.
@@Raiyuden I 100% agree honestly, I also didn't like this Goten, and wish they would invest more time in F2P characters such as the free Ultras or Armor Piccolo, the only F2P "re-use" character i enjoyed was the GRN pod Freeza, because his immobilizer green card and Blue card spam was pretty bonkers when he released!
@@Raiyudensex
I dont agree, and its coming from a guy who used the f2p 18 lile 500 matches the last 3 seasons. Yes 18 has more stuff like better cds and damage but the only valuable thing she has better than goten is the sub count manipulation. The card slot isn't that usefulin this meta with units comboing for this long. Goten he'sa lot more tanky and the cancel buff effects he has it's too good in this meta. So i prefer goten because are supporting but goten its just a better defensive unit and even if18 has better cds and card null it doesn't matter both are not doing damage Raiyuden
End of the day f2p it's a better pick I u want more damage and stuff to support allies but goten 40% is good enough and he's just better tank in this meta and a better 3rd than 18
Even summonable defense units can be hit or miss so its good to see a relatively well designed defense unit especially given hes F2p
17:42 props to the guy handing you the kill since you got guessed
No props why would you ever do that...
@@Ricin. Its called honor
@@solblaze8055the whole point of rishing rush when on the receiving end of one is to guess it is it not? Sooo that’s something I never understood
@@solblaze8055 "honor" in dragon ball legends PvP? Yeaaaah....
@@solblaze8055 I'm not sure why you would care about guessing your opponent when you're only playing to gain RP and get cc at the end of the season
Rai kept trying to combo with this guy and then got mad he didn't perform, it was kind of annoying to watch. I'm glad to see you using him properly (defense + support only).
i mean don't expect to much for someone who always got 900 below when doing clash
I think this is the first time I've ever seen it's Raiyuden the one who has the negative opinion of the new unit, it's weird
IKR?!!
cuz goten sucks.
5:50 the assault chain roast continues 🗣️
Who else loves Goten floating animation
It's nothing special, I'm confused
@@zarrowthehorse I think the win screen?
@@TheVivi13its the same LF version win screen
@@brunofilipe6592 yes, no one said that it wasn't. they just said goten in general
15:27
Goresh fighting a lobotomy patient lmao
Enough about Raiyuden and Goresh's differing opinions. It's honestly pathetic seeing people pit them against eachother because they have a differing opinion. The beauty of watching different content creators of the same content is that they aren't the same people. Both Goresh and Rai very much are correct here. Goten is a great tank and decent support, but the fact of the matter is that he really ONLY is a good tank. He doesn't offer much else than good damage mitigation besides a little suppprt. A ki disrupt of 10 is useless in this meta when a single charge step can mitigate that. Goten is facing the immense powercreep Legends has introduced, and yet still can give it a run for it's money. He's just sub par, but not abysmal. The standard for f2p units needs to be raised, because the game makes so much fucking money that the least they can do is offer f2p players good alternatives to keep up. Some people can't afford to spend money on a live service game where the money spent will be irrelevant when the game shuts down.
Most importantly, acting like one of these content creators is better than the other is disgusting. We're not fucking 5 year old children. Show some fucking respect.
Bro, that second to last sentence with your username...
@@awkwardiguana it wasnt intentional, but its too funny to change now
Rai is critical here because the Goten support isn't enough to offset the "zero damage" he does and everyone doesn't have their units 14* like Goresh so yeah Goten sucks but not on the defensive end ☮️✌🏻
I feel like F2P Units should have a gimmick, like you would POTENTIALLY choose them over a premium unit, but only if you like their gimmick, or you don’t have the premium version of the unit. (You ain’t using Goten over ULTHAN)
I still think they should zenkai PUR Legends Road Great Saiyaman
He is a W 🦫
Yeah people are calling him trash or mid but he can tank combos and eat a g4 ultimate without a zenkai buff
@@Querty5636he is a f2p character like what do u except
@@femzi4999?
@@Querty5636 You know stats aren't the only thing that matters in a character right???
Honestly goresh, I tried this team out cause it looked fun and it actually cooks. Plus it’s got a lot of survivability cause of all 3 of them taking buff affects and also the constant healing
I never pulled UGB or UGF so this is gonna be my go to purple on movies for a long time, unless the next lf for movies is purple
Wait what about Gohan
@@wodahs2218 i should have specified for movies in your defense tbh
For purple ug4 or ultimate gohan only bruv these 2 you said are pretty mid
@@Yuginkai12 ah ok
RARE GOTEN W?! 😱🙌
Goaten mentioned w
I just realized has fresh done the Zenkai buff video for lf omega yet?
He aint even done the arts boosted vid yet😭
Fresh?😂
5:50 assault chain guys OMG 🥶😱
He is definitely worthy of the title 🐐 en
Personally I feel like you should revisit gokua. He is one of the all time greatest extremes we have ever gotten and he was SUPER powerful
GOATEN MY FAV WOOOO
Omega Shenron LL on GT team man on come 😭😭‼️
A lot of people talking about Raiyu's opinion, I don't blame him for having a bad opinion on Goten, he done goof a lot of times in his showcase to the point yeah its a skill issue but its just him not having or little to no sleep as also tells in Raiyu's Showcase.
I'm gonna compare this video to Raiyu's video as With Sleep vs with no sleep. Lmao
I don’t care, I love his design (except then giving him buff effect removal but no endurance)
Buff removal has other applications that aren't strictly for nullifying endurance
YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO GET GUESSED THERE SIIIR 🗣️🗣️😏😏😏
Are they giving out tickets or whatever for the total amount of cc spent over the year like they did last year..??
Legend Fest is when that happens
Anybody oiling up rn edging to this
You are so corny oh my god
Go do something productive please
@@ARandomGuy_ gooning material here going skibidi sigma rizz 🤖
???????????
@@ohhellwhereami2574 you are so lame for this
finally goten
Cant wait for ultra beast Gohan lol
Get ready to wait lol
Hey y’all, I’m new to the game so I’m still learning. How do you get more stars for Goten?
9:47 beast stop a green card...u could stay with him
gotenillion defense
GT DRAGON TEAM WHEN?!?!?
LR Broly Movie Tag Gohan & Goten???
day 72 asking for FULL commentary on god rank grind #69
Goresh do the artificial life form mission for the beast gohan supreme magnificent battle and then laugh at the jp players who found it difficult
Dat was so easy ngl
W
How you get him to 14 stars already?
co-op
why not putting Goku in the team... he powers up goten
Ulthan> G4
This guy is just beyond broken
Depends on the skill if you don't have skill with ulthan G4 is better because he does everything for you
for me the equp with tapion is bugged. doesn't let me equip it on him
It has a star requirement, that's why. you need goten at 9* stars to equip it on him.
Then why don't they say it under conditions lmao. Thanks anyways lad.
For me defense is all he has go ing for him.
Yes that's what he is meant to do
Should I use him over red pan?
Hybrids has like 4 better options than pan
He’s easily way better
@@Skyeblu224 such as?
@@kylerolsen4300 assuming the core is ultimate and ultra
Vegeta and trunks
This goten
Bulla
And debatably red beast
@@Skyeblu224red beast and v/t definitely serve different purposes than red pan
@@kylerolsen4300 both are still giving support while bringing a lot of utility to the table
V/t are tankier than pan is and heal more and the damage is 10x higher
Red beast is iffy but vanish removal is still strong
👍
How do you get him maxed out 💀
Co op
He peaked
1000th like :)
Here before the fall off comments
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