You pull the oil release bolt out of the bottom of the oil pan when it is running. The running engine will hold the oil inside and you just shine a flashlight inside to check it. Simple. 😉😂
25 less hp but anyway I have a gt base with the performance pack so its alot lighter than the challenger they pull on me on the big end in a roll race lol
Found this on the challenger forum replied by an SRT Engineer. A decent explanation. I've had this once or twice on my 2016 Scat 392 not a daily driver. I've done 3 cold starts a month apart since I stored it for the winter with no issues. Here it is: New engines take some time for the piston rings (sometimes seals as well) to break in. As ring tensions have reduced and bore finishes have improved (read smoother) the rings will take longer to seal to the mating surface. In some rare cases, if an engine is run very hard right out of the chute you will get some glazing between the bores and rings which will cause an even longer (or potentially never) break in period. Normal conditions will break in and seal up well within several thousand miles. Make a few hard runs with the car after break in will ususally accelerate the sealing. Some light smoke from the exhaust on start ups (usually cold or warm after sitting for a time) is not an issue. If the smoke is heavy or continuous during driving there may be a mechanical problem, take into the dealer.
Good to know. I've been seeing some of that once in a while if I park on an incline. I had the dealer check it out; they did a software update but it has still been smoking once in a while on startup. Will install that catch can that I got for Christmas ;)
Hahahahahaha when you said “Third time filling up this week” that had me dying because i could relate !!! I have a Scat Pack Charger 2019 recently leased it. I love it man, couldnt be happier. I also love it when people ask “How many miles to the gallon you get” i always reply with “Smiles per Gallon NOT Miles per Gallon”. I dont take credit for coming up with that line, but truer words couldnt be said.
The smoke generated at startup was more than likely caused by you racing the engine at shut down. The oil pressure pushes the oil up into the heads and drains down onto the cylinders. When you turned it off, this leaves the valves open for oil to drain down onto the cylinders. Hope this explains your scare.
That makes no sense. The only way for the oil to drain through the valves into the cylinder is through bad valve seals or through the intake manifold. The heads drain oil back into the block.
Most likely from not having an oil catch can. The oil build up in the intake manifold can do that. If you get an oil catch can and the problem still persists after a month or so, then you have a bigger problem. Bad valve guides/seals.
"I don't know how to answer that question..."😂 392 is a beautiful, versatile engine perfect for enthusiasts...not for people that think working on a car is a drag...
I drive my 2017 charger scat like I stole it daily. I’ve got 60,000 miles on it since I bought it new with zero complaints. Nothing but tires and brake pads. When you’re buying a car to “mod” looking at hp/$, don’t start with a car that makes around 500hp! Because making north of 500hp and making it reliable isn’t cheap. If it were, you’d see 500+hp cars at every stop light😏
Well said, brother! I have a 17 392 Daytona with only 23k and I've NEVER had any mechanical problems. Only issue is with the interior, the sun baked the glue and the door panel, by the window, is popped up. I have since tinted the windows and keep the cover on. Damn socal sun.
The oil smoke comes from built up oil in the head. I used to own a brand new 2014 Challenger SRT8 6 sp. manual. I'm very keen on how the engine runs. At first my car was running hot, sluggish, and sucked gas until I got on the highway. So, I found out about the "Oil Catch Can" that's made for Mopars to "catch" the extra oil before it ends up in the head. It costs $66 and is very easy to install by hand. I had to dump it about every 5,000 miles or every oil change. I also installed a K&N cold air intake at the same time. Man, it made the biggest difference!! The engine ran sharp, cool, and clean after that, no matter how little I drove it. And no more oil smoke! 👍
Also you can add a set of headers ,bigger throttle body ,Hellcat air box ,after market exhaust system and a tune and you will definitely feel the difference
Never seen that ever on my 2018 charger scat pack. My break him process was easy till 1500 miles then I started driving it a little harder nothing past 4000 rpms. When I hit 3000 miles then I’d floored it several times. Piston rings sealed perfectly and no oil loss or smoke.
You really feel every single horsepower when accelerating in the 392 because the 8 speed transmission is so great. I was surprised of how much power it has after trying it out and riding in it. Definitely a car with its own segment and a car in its own class. Its one of a kind!
@@joshnalex21 unless its built to compete. In my honest opinion there is no point in owning something with more than average power and handling if that person's not willing to put it to the test. Average driving calls for an average means of transportation.
"coolant is good" glances at coolant expansion tank, "oil I have to check when the car is off, hmm" dude just get a Tesla or Prius you don't know much about cars.
Go down a long hill using engine braking no throttle. At bottom on throttle and cheeck in mirror for smoke. If cloud of smoke 1. Valve guide seals worn dripping oil down or seal displaced on guide. Remove rrocker covets and check. You can change them without rremoving head. 2. Rings or a piston with oil control loss.
That's most coolest thing about the car community, good people brother, that smoke could be from the valves, or you might want to pull each spark plugs and out and exam them, could find out alot from your plugs brother, cool
That is the main reason why I got the 345. That and the block is tried-and-true in pickup trucks so it is strong, but it was mainly for a good base to build off of. Although the 392 block is what they're using to make the 426 stroker crate engine, I'm just saying. Although that crate engine is $20,000
I used to have an R/T 5.7 6 speed, around town I got about 19 mpg 24 on the highway. Now I have a Mazda, last checked my MPG was in the mid 30's and I now run the cheap gas.
That smoke at startup was just a little 'oil blowby' and is normal with large block hemis. The best cure is to get an oil catch can so instead of the oil going back through the intake via the breather, the catch can puts the oil back into the engine rather than the intake. You will notice that without a catch can you will loose a few 10's of a quart over time because it gets burned off through ignition. Just make sure to top her off every six months or so...
Remember, in 1981, a Mercedes Benz 380SLC produced 165HP straight from the Dealer. Scatpack with 392 produces 3 times that. Incredible for a naturally aspirated Mopar. These cars are epic, especially with a manual 6 speed - God Bless America
Absolutely, My father inlaws new Mustang GT did that intermittently before we installed a Oil Catch can. My Cousins 2017 Camaro did the same as well. They all need an oil catch can.
I currently own a 14 charger 392. And honestly i bought it bc its a family/muscle car. Yes i knew it'll never be as fast as most pound for pound bc of the weight and its inability to be boosted safely (not saying it can't be, just 6.4 arent as good as the 6.2 boosted). Anyways i put down 498hp and 471tq to the wheels with minor bolt ons and cam upgrade. Its being built now with forged internals and E85 then 175 shot spray. The amount of money i spent i could have had a LS swapped 900hp plus car, but i love my car and im comited now in it. Bottom line, it all depends on your preferences and budget. My car puts down now 543hp 497tq NA with E85 and 683/671 on 175 shot. Mods are: Oil catch can JBA LT w/cat delete JLT CAI Apache max cam (No2 grind) Red eye lifters Demon injectors Forged pushrods Mahle pistons and rods ARP rod bolts/head studs 465 warblo fuel pump Ported TB & Intake manifold Nitrious outlet 175 wet ket Paramount 3200 stall Custom Hp dyno tune BC coilovers Do i regret the amount of money i spent on it knowing i could have something faster or better? No, i love my car bc i put my time and money in it. It's like raising a kid. #builtnotbought Check it out on IG slowbee_mopar
slowbee_mopar 2014-392 amen man . Perfect words from an honest person, speaking the truth. To me that's what it's all about being a Mopar guy. I have owned many six pack cars, 1 Hemi car, and now building a pro street Duster. Nothing wickedly radical, just a stroked 440 on a mild build. I'm not building it for others I'm building it for myself. And that is the essence of ownership
@@70stunes71 sounds like it'll be a badass lil car. I need to build a race car and not my daily lol. But its a drug, I'm addicted lol. Hope your build goes the way you expect. Good luck brother.
The easiest and most reliable way to get more power is with a tune. But there isn’t to much calibration tunes for the 392 where as the mustang has a lot of options which makes it so much easier for a mustang to get more power
Well, my Scat Pack Challenger is stock but has a tune by Accelerated Racing Solutions. Stock on drag radials I went 12.40 at California Dragway, with the tune by ARS It has now gone 11.40 @121 at Famoso Dragway. The tunes work great. I did lose 150 lbs in the process.
Not sure if anyone mentioned this, but did you conduct the break in process as directed by the manufacturer? If not then the proper seating of the rings might be the cause of the blow by. Not a mechanic, just saw a few videos about the breaking in of a new dodge challenger. Nice ride and hope you enjoy it for many years to come brother.
Oil from the PCV return line in the intake pools on the intake valves. Not really an issue, but a catch can will solve it. I put a catch can on my scat at 500 miles. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@@markurbancowboy thats pretty pathetic if you ask me. but it's no wonder tuners or btr or comp cams hate building shit for dodge. sucks because the 392 is almost a 10k engine while a LS family block can be bought for as low as 1500 to top of a line 454 LSX for 5-7k with over 500hp and tons of mods left open. and its tuner friendly ! challengers and chargers are badass looking but they're shit for modding them. 1000 for a pcm and lame close to stock tune? no thanks
About the smoke coming out of your exhaust. I had a similar issue with my Challenger RT. Turns out the valve seals were installed incorrectly at the factory in 2 of the cylinders. It took me taking it to the dealer several times for them to figure that out. Hope this helps you out dude.
RE Oil Smoke at Cold Start . The Only think I can Think of is Faulty Valve Stem Oil Seal / Seals See what the Dealer Says. NO ! You don't need a Engine Overhaul .
I'm a Chrysler engineer. This is most certainly an early sign of Turbo Encabulator failure. This is very common on newer FCA products. There is a field service bulletin regarding this. Just call your Dodge dealer and ask to have it replaced or retuned if needed.
I would have to agree. The original machine had a base plate of prefabulated amulite, surmounted by a malleable logarithmic casing in such a way that the two main spurving bearings were in a direct line with the panametric fan. The latter consisted simply of six hydrocoptic marzlevanes, so fitted to the ambifacient lunar waneshaft that side fumbling was effectively prevented. The main winding was of the normal lotus-o-deltoid type placed in panendermic semi-boloid slots in the stator, every seventh conductor being connected by a nonreversible tremmie pipe to the differential girdlespring on the "up" end of the grammeters.
WTF kind of useless babble is this? This guy doesn't no a piston from a Snickers Bar. I've owned 3 Scat Paks and now a Challenger Hellcat. Many mods are available to unleash more power. Be careful of voiding your warranty. As for smoke on cold start. I have never experienced this. BUT, a catch can will likely eliminate it.
I’m a huge fan of keeping cars stock. I’m also a guy who keeps cars for long timespans and wants reliability. Companies invest millions and millions of dollars making performance cars that will be fast and reliable/durable. I’m not messing with it and you won’t be able to use much more than 485 in the street anyways.
I’ve heard the 5.7 stock internals don’t like boost very much, and they still only make 385 crank power. I could get a V6 Camaro with FBO and a 93 pump tune and make close to 330 and have a 500 pound weight difference.
U can cam it long or short headers. And some cylinder heads. and your in scat pack power range Maybe even a bigger intake manifold and all the mustangs are looking at you all silly .hell even a stock 5.7 run just as good as a pony car
After a car has sat over night and has some bad valve guides oil can slip by the worn valve guide and end up in the cylinder. When you make that first morning start up if you have some bad valve guides the tailpipes will smoke. I noticed it was your left bank that smoked. I wouldn't worry about it unless it remains.
Yep, it happens to my T/A sometimes too, and it happened to my SRT8 Challenger. Tends to happen more if I park the car on an incline. Most notably it can mean the oil is slightly overfilled and the previous engine run time was very short. It is just blow by getting cleaned out of the intake
The 392 has plenty of usable power. My daily driver is a 2017 SRT Challenger; just good all around fun. Yes, I wish it was like to old days of just adding parts and turning...well it is, but this is way more complicated. I might just do it anyway, but like you say for an additional $20k, I could have got a Helllcat. The truth is, I can't get the power to the ground now. It sounds great just stock. If anything, I would look at something to make it launch better. I could go with drag tires, but that takes away from the daily driver. It is a pretty good all-rounder, and that's why I got it in the first place. Sure, you could spend money invest in an upgrade, but you addressed the more basic question of should you. Making an assessment first is smart.
Blue smoke like that on start up isn't generally a good sign. If it was really cold then there would be white smoke. The blue is a sign of oil being burnt in the cylinder or somehow escaping into the exhaust system and burning there. Why wouldn't you check your oil before start up? Low oil levels cause excessive heat, causes oil to lose its viscosity faster and provide less protection to critical engine components.
If you haven't fixed it yet....you have 1 of 3 issues. Your oil is overfilled...your valve guides are bad...your valve seals are bad. If you are checking your oil on your sloped driveway...you are definitely overfilling the engine with oil. Check it on a level surface.
It is a well known fact that that 392 engine is already maxed out by Chrysler you cannot modify it for more power the tolerances is are already maxed. You try to do anything besides simple things like exhaust and Tuner you will damage the motor
That startup is normal If you cold start, move the car a few feet and shut it off. The next startup will do that. My VVT Mustang 4.6 has always done that. I have 157,000 trouble free miles on it. Nice Car!
“I think, I feel, but have no specific reasons as to why not to buy a SCAT pack?” Huh, I am a SCAT pack owner and knew nothing prior, but this is it in a nutshell. You can add a ton more power. The factory 392CID is a bored and stroked 5.7 block. You are correct there is a lot you can’t do but only because it’s already got high flo heads, shorty headers, and cylinder capacity increased with shorter stroke piston rods and lower profile pistons. If you buy the stage 3 kit for the 5.7L you will get the top end of a 6.4L 392. That block can be bored additionally safely, long tube headers added, cold air intake, PCM swap, exhaust diameter increased, and boost. Right off the rip if you spend $250 for Z Automotive’s Fazer you will get additional drive modes including “Track Mode” which instantly changes the shift points and timing for better performance. He’ll just throwing away your Hockey pucks and putting some real racing rubber on it a little wider than stock would make a huge difference. What I can’t understand is why you are dumping 91 octane gas into a stock SCAT Pack. Higher octane fuel is used to prevent detonation at the advanced timing settings required for running a radical camshaft. A stock SCAT doesn’t even benefit from high octane fuel. You could pump jet fuel into your tank in that car and it won’t make it faster. If you want can swap that entire engine with a Arrington Motosport’s 410CID longblock or complete engine.
This is a scary thought. I always drive In sport mode unless I’m doing any long highway driving which I hardly ever do not being a daily driver. As a high performance engine they should of just left MDS out of the 6.4L. IMO.
Jordan Fetfatzes I agree with you! That’s why I said the SRT’s and 6.4L scats should not have the MDS. I’m hoping I have no issues down the road. I’d like to know how many have had issues with the MDS?
@@cgkuch4184 its basically the lifters not getting enpigh oil when they are not in use for the other 4 cylinders Overtime they become bad. A quick and good fix is the hellcat lifters
Jordan Fetfatzes I’ll keep that in mind. Again I always drive my car in sport. The MDS makes the exhaust sound Ike sh1t too. My car doesn’t have that infamous hemi tick either. My old 04 Ram did. Turned it was the exhaust manifold bolts breaking. I only put about 4000 miles / 7000 km a year on it. Time will tell I guess. 16,000k/10000miles on it now. What I’m keeping an eye on is the water pump. They are all shit across the whole vehicle platform.
Ok first if you have any questions about what you can do with the 392 just give alexis a call at speedlogix in west palm beach and she will let you know what you can do to add more power.
Find a wrecked Hellcat, have it bored and stroked to 6.4 liters, and put it and the Transmission from the Hellcat also into your car! You’d have a real sleeper with a good 1000hp.
Catch can bro, that's the key. True CAI, headers, high flow cats, and a tune will do a lot to wake up that 392 even more, it's all bolt on but you'll void your warranty because it requires an unlocked PCM. If you really want to spend some money, a new cam and ported heads are the next step. No need for a supercharger when you can easily make 600 at the crank with bolt ons, a cam, and heads
Alex Andrews no need for supercharged when u can easily make 600 crank no no is better to be honest n say 392 don’t like boost at all there’s a reason all the 392 vids are muffler delete oil catch can a bunch of burnouts that’s it is all the same unless coyote&ls or LTS engines 💯
Alex Andrews well he’s in Cali, if we get busted with a non CARB legal CAI, that’s a ticket straight to the ref. Pain in the ass if you ask me. I know a lot of guys duck the cops and all that, but you don’t know if a violation like that could affect his record and then affect his career.
That smoke comes from several cold starts, and Not letting engine warm up after cold starts. Raw fuel washed oil off of cylinder walls and is then burned on next start up.
4:48 water condensate. When you turn off your car in cooler or humid weather, the hot exhaust condenses water. And when you start the car some time later that water evaporates causing the smoke.
Back in the day, we bought cars without the internet. It was common, it was normal. We did modifications due to what we needed to do, intake, breather, fuel injectors, exhaust, suspension tunes etc. We didn't pay shops unless we had to. We also drove real, transmission cars. That being said, we knew everything about our cars. White smoke from the exhaust is normally condensation, every vehicle does it when its cold and humidity is low. Bluish smoke is normally burning oil. IF you're truly burning oil with a low amount of mileage, you either destroyed your engine dogging the shit out of it, or some else did prior to you buying it, or you happened to get a bad product. Although with Chrysler's "Dodge", track record of problems, unfortunately you will be seeing the dealer for things you can't fix yourself, multiple times. Having said that, we didn't have RUclips channels to "research" and use other people ideas to fix our problems, we simply went to a real mechanic. All these plug and play tuners at garages, do not make you a mechanic.
Why do I only have motorcycles and an older Jeep you ask? Because I don't have the money to afford a nicer car? No. Because I don't make enough money? No. It's because I can fix these things without going to a dealer, at home, in my garage. Parts are cheap and common and the work is easy and doesn't take very long. Plus, the dealer is not taking my car out back and rolling the tires all over the place like they will your 392.
You STILL don't have an OIL CATCH CAN?! Bruh.. get that! Haha After watching all the way to the end, you killed this video my guy! Great information and well put! The main reason however that a 392 can't handle boost is the piston ring placement. Once that issue is fixed with Drop in pistons/rods you can really add some power and smoke stock hellcats with ease!
The oil burning at startup, sounds like valve guide seals wearing out. The fact that it did it at startup and not every time, means they are just starting to wear out and not completely wore out. two remedies for three fill ups a week, buy a Tesla or treat the gas pedal like there is an egg under it
almost clicked away when you tried checking the oil while running lol
Juan sanchez on a driveway that isn’t level lol!
Same lol
Yup. Lol
You pull the oil release bolt out of the bottom of the oil pan when it is running. The running engine will hold the oil inside and you just shine a flashlight inside to check it. Simple. 😉😂
Sak 20012019 I tried this but the engine is ticking now. I put water in the engine to flush it out.
It's amazing that some of the guys that have a blog don't know shit about cars! Damn
IKR apparently having 5 hp less and 50 less pound feet of torque makes mustangs a weaker platform 😂
themechanic1887 red fucking boats😂
25 less hp but anyway I have a gt base with the performance pack so its alot lighter than the challenger they pull on me on the big end in a roll race lol
Came to post this 7 months later.
@@JustinHEMI05 🤣🤣🤣 one year later
Found this on the challenger forum replied by an SRT Engineer. A decent explanation. I've had this once or twice on my 2016 Scat 392 not a daily driver. I've done 3 cold starts a month apart since I stored it for the winter with no issues.
Here it is: New engines take some time for the piston rings (sometimes seals as well) to break in. As ring tensions have reduced and bore finishes have improved (read smoother) the rings will take longer to seal to the mating surface. In some rare cases, if an engine is run very hard right out of the chute you will get some glazing between the bores and rings which will cause an even longer (or potentially never) break in period. Normal conditions will break in and seal up well within several thousand miles. Make a few hard runs with the car after break in will ususally accelerate the sealing. Some light smoke from the exhaust on start ups (usually cold or warm after sitting for a time) is not an issue. If the smoke is heavy or continuous during driving there may be a mechanical problem, take into the dealer.
CG KUCH thanks for sharing this 🙌🏻
Rush SRT 👍🇨🇦
Very good critique, an oil catch can helps with these
Its a sad day when two muscle cars pull next to eachother and talk about video games 😒🔫
Naw fr wtf i wanted to kill myself
He asked the guy "what do you got done to this thing" and dude started talking about video games lol
Justin McGinty He would probably call aaa if he got a flat tire in the driveway.
The mustang isnt a muscle car
Pony
Bro get an OIL CATCH CAN and that will stop the oil burnoff that you saw when doing a cold start....
Good to know. I've been seeing some of that once in a while if I park on an incline. I had the dealer check it out; they did a software update but it has still been smoking once in a while on startup. Will install that catch can that I got for Christmas ;)
@@jononstott did it work?
Hahahahahaha when you said “Third time filling up this week” that had me dying because i could relate !!! I have a Scat Pack Charger 2019 recently leased it. I love it man, couldnt be happier. I also love it when people ask “How many miles to the gallon you get” i always reply with “Smiles per Gallon NOT Miles per Gallon”. I dont take credit for coming up with that line, but truer words couldnt be said.
Stamina 89 wow
“What do you have done to this thing?”
“Ah just video games bro”
WHAT A GREAT RESPONSE
😂😂😂
Was crying laughing when I heard him
@@MariaRivera-ce6pj lmao
I want to thank you for making this video. I now have a new topic for my channel. Weak soft men who buy fast cars.
YES
😂😂
😂😂😂😂
You’re the best part of this video
He sure is purty though.
The smoke generated at startup was more than likely caused by you racing the engine at shut down. The oil pressure pushes the oil up into the heads and drains down onto the cylinders. When you turned it off, this leaves the valves open for oil to drain down onto the cylinders. Hope this explains your scare.
That makes no sense. The only way for the oil to drain through the valves into the cylinder is through bad valve seals or through the intake manifold. The heads drain oil back into the block.
Intake pvc problem
@@moparsrt1905 Catch can!! Every Hemi owner should have it installed
For a 6.4, I would say do it all at once. Comp cam, long tubes, 3" exhaust, intake, followed by a DiabloSport tune.
eggsZachary
6.4? That's metric isn't it? There is absolutely nothing wrong with SAE.
Joe S. Well Said Sir !! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Yep. I just need to find a shop for installation.
Most likely from not having an oil catch can. The oil build up in the intake manifold can do that. If you get an oil catch can and the problem still persists after a month or so, then you have a bigger problem. Bad valve guides/seals.
In a 14,000 mile car would be a shame
"I don't know how to answer that question..."😂 392 is a beautiful, versatile engine perfect for enthusiasts...not for people that think working on a car is a drag...
I drive my 2017 charger scat like I stole it daily. I’ve got 60,000 miles on it since I bought it new with zero complaints. Nothing but tires and brake pads. When you’re buying a car to “mod” looking at hp/$, don’t start with a car that makes around 500hp! Because making north of 500hp and making it reliable isn’t cheap. If it were, you’d see 500+hp cars at every stop light😏
Well said, brother! I have a 17 392 Daytona with only 23k and I've NEVER had any mechanical problems. Only issue is with the interior, the sun baked the glue and the door panel, by the window, is popped up. I have since tinted the windows and keep the cover on. Damn socal sun.
I put 13k on my gt in 6 months lol I dont need 500+hp 460 temps me to get in trouble plenty
The oil smoke comes from built up oil in the head. I used to own a brand new 2014 Challenger SRT8 6 sp. manual. I'm very keen on how the engine runs. At first my car was running hot, sluggish, and sucked gas until I got on the highway. So, I found out about the "Oil Catch Can" that's made for Mopars to "catch" the extra oil before it ends up in the head. It costs $66 and is very easy to install by hand. I had to dump it about every 5,000 miles or every oil change. I also installed a K&N cold air intake at the same time. Man, it made the biggest difference!! The engine ran sharp, cool, and clean after that, no matter how little I drove it. And no more oil smoke! 👍
Also you can add a set of headers ,bigger throttle body ,Hellcat air box ,after market exhaust system and a tune and you will definitely feel the difference
When you have smoke on start up that goes away after initial start up. That's going to be your valve guide seals going bad.
Steven Petres or piston rings allowing oil to seep past into the cylinder
@@matmat3126 correct
@@tierrelong8288 what about the intake manifold not sealing properly? I know the 360 Engine had that problem.
Yep, had that issue on my RT.
On the 392 it's just blow by from the crankcase throwing it back into the intake. Completely normal. This is why guys get catch cans.
You really have no idea what you are talking about!!!
After watching this & i am still sticking on getting my hellcat in March
Do us all a favor and sell it so someone with balls can enjoy this beautiful engine.
I agree, one must have fantastic tit's, or a pair of man's testcles to own this car. Please sell your ride to a grown up.
Sorry. I am factory freak. As long as I got 485 horses I am good
It's cool you are into cars but if you dont know anything about engines dont pretend to.
Well yea that's why he bought an SRT instead of a scatpack
Yeah that's why he asked people in th comments to make suggestions
Never seen that ever on my 2018 charger scat pack. My break him process was easy till 1500 miles then I started driving it a little harder nothing past 4000 rpms. When I hit 3000 miles then I’d floored it several times. Piston rings sealed perfectly and no oil loss or smoke.
i drove the shit out of mine off the lot still runs the same at over 2k mileage
Dude seriously, What was the point .
You really have no idea .
Car on incline cranshaft in oil. Splashe's into cylinders over powers oil rings plus engine was cold
You really feel every single horsepower when accelerating in the 392 because the 8 speed transmission is so great. I was surprised of how much power it has after trying it out and riding in it. Definitely a car with its own segment and a car in its own class. Its one of a kind!
Yea the 392 is perfect for street use and just awesome due to low gearing so real low end torque kicking in!
Considering eighth gear doesn’t engage until 80 something MPH 9 out of 10 people will never need it.
My boy hit 180 in that motherfucker and that shit is so beautiful I can only imagine what a demon feels like.
Nice car
Hellcat is to much power i think 500 hp is enough power is like being in shape vs a bodybuilder no need.
My opinion
Josh Sandoval you know that the hellcat also has a 500 hp mode when you don’t want to use all 700 hp
Yes using the blk key instead of the red one
Olso you can use the red key and mod the horsepower
Not when it weighs that damn much. 500hp in a 4000lbs car keeps civic owners talking shit all day
That is a totally another different book
Because if you're not comparing apples to apples you can always buy a very fast bike and leave any car behind
@@joshnalex21 unless its built to compete. In my honest opinion there is no point in owning something with more than average power and handling if that person's not willing to put it to the test. Average driving calls for an average means of transportation.
My 2014 SRT-8 grenaded at 48k miles. Valve smacked the piston. Covered by warranty. Trade-in for Hellcat 👍🏻
Damn did you drive it hard all the time?
Oh don't tell me that, mine has 53k miles
I got a 2014 w 110k. Dropped a piston 4 months ago for the second time
"coolant is good" glances at coolant expansion tank, "oil I have to check when the car is off, hmm" dude just get a Tesla or Prius you don't know much about cars.
YOU SIR.....know very little about cars.
Absolutely, thanks for watching 👍🏻
@@RushShift 😎
He really doesnt
Thats a fact.
seems that none of you know shit about cars either, only know how to say someone doesn't know what they're talking about or doing lmao.
Go down a long hill using engine braking no throttle. At bottom on throttle and cheeck in mirror for smoke. If cloud of smoke
1. Valve guide seals worn dripping oil down or seal displaced on guide.
Remove rrocker covets and check. You can change them without rremoving head.
2. Rings or a piston with oil control loss.
That's most coolest thing about the car community, good people brother, that smoke could be from the valves, or you might want to pull each spark plugs and out and exam them, could find out alot from your plugs brother, cool
What a lot of people don't know is racing really puts a strain on any car and ultimately this is what you get
That is the main reason why I got the 345. That and the block is tried-and-true in pickup trucks so it is strong, but it was mainly for a good base to build off of. Although the 392 block is what they're using to make the 426 stroker crate engine, I'm just saying. Although that crate engine is $20,000
Valve guides and seals. Smokes on startup.
I used to have an R/T 5.7 6 speed, around town I got about 19 mpg 24 on the highway. Now I have a Mazda, last checked my MPG was in the mid 30's and I now run the cheap gas.
So ya sold the challenger for a mazda ?
AKA: I sold my Challenger because my wife said so.
Oil catch can would eliminate 90% of that smoke at start up.nothing to worry about.seen brand new ones do it.
Burning oil is not really a no factor. It's never good.
Just some built up oil sitting on an intake valve or two. MOPAR messiah B Mason says this is completely normal and nothing to worry about.
Andrew damn you, I will never get that image out of my head now
Andrew V that’s even more of a reason to trust B Mason, he knows Mopar
But it can build up over time and cause detonation and power loss
That smoke at startup was just a little 'oil blowby' and is normal with large block hemis. The best cure is to get an oil catch can so instead of the oil going back through the intake via the breather, the catch can puts the oil back into the engine rather than the intake. You will notice that without a catch can you will loose a few 10's of a quart over time because it gets burned off through ignition. Just make sure to top her off every six months or so...
The number one thing you should have bought when you bought that car was a catch can
Remember, in 1981, a Mercedes Benz 380SLC produced 165HP straight from the Dealer. Scatpack with 392 produces 3 times that. Incredible for a naturally aspirated Mopar. These cars are epic, especially with a manual 6 speed - God Bless America
Oil catch can man that's it. Yes built up oil.
Absolutely, My father inlaws new Mustang GT did that intermittently before we installed a Oil Catch can. My Cousins 2017 Camaro did the same as well. They all need an oil catch can.
The Sloan this may sound stupid, but what’s the point of the oil catch can?
So the oil can catch cans.
Alexes Quiroz oh nice, don’t want any cans in my hemi.
Alex Gailliard that’s what I was thinking as well
You can't check the oil with the engine running and by tapping on the dip stick. If you have any concerns, always check it manually.
I currently own a 14 charger 392. And honestly i bought it bc its a family/muscle car. Yes i knew it'll never be as fast as most pound for pound bc of the weight and its inability to be boosted safely (not saying it can't be, just 6.4 arent as good as the 6.2 boosted). Anyways i put down 498hp and 471tq to the wheels with minor bolt ons and cam upgrade. Its being built now with forged internals and E85 then 175 shot spray. The amount of money i spent i could have had a LS swapped 900hp plus car, but i love my car and im comited now in it. Bottom line, it all depends on your preferences and budget. My car puts down now 543hp 497tq NA with E85 and 683/671 on 175 shot. Mods are:
Oil catch can
JBA LT w/cat delete
JLT CAI
Apache max cam (No2 grind)
Red eye lifters
Demon injectors
Forged pushrods
Mahle pistons and rods
ARP rod bolts/head studs
465 warblo fuel pump
Ported TB & Intake manifold
Nitrious outlet 175 wet ket
Paramount 3200 stall
Custom Hp dyno tune
BC coilovers
Do i regret the amount of money i spent on it knowing i could have something faster or better? No, i love my car bc i put my time and money in it. It's like raising a kid. #builtnotbought
Check it out on IG slowbee_mopar
slowbee_mopar 2014-392 amen man . Perfect words from an honest person, speaking the truth. To me that's what it's all about being a Mopar guy. I have owned many six pack cars, 1 Hemi car, and now building a pro street Duster. Nothing wickedly radical, just a stroked 440 on a mild build. I'm not building it for others I'm building it for myself. And that is the essence of ownership
@@70stunes71 sounds like it'll be a badass lil car. I need to build a race car and not my daily lol. But its a drug, I'm addicted lol. Hope your build goes the way you expect. Good luck brother.
The easiest and most reliable way to get more power is with a tune. But there isn’t to much calibration tunes for the 392 where as the mustang has a lot of options which makes it so much easier for a mustang to get more power
Well, my Scat Pack Challenger is stock but has a tune by Accelerated Racing Solutions. Stock on drag radials I went 12.40 at California Dragway, with the tune by ARS It has now gone 11.40 @121 at Famoso Dragway. The tunes work great. I did lose 150 lbs in the process.
The Sloan how did you lose 150 pounds in the process?
@@carnationvideos4258he put a remote system so he doesn’t have to sit in the car to drive it
Not sure if anyone mentioned this, but did you conduct the break in process as directed by the manufacturer? If not then the proper seating of the rings might be the cause of the blow by. Not a mechanic, just saw a few videos about the breaking in of a new dodge challenger. Nice ride and hope you enjoy it for many years to come brother.
Oil from the PCV return line in the intake pools on the intake valves. Not really an issue, but a catch can will solve it. I put a catch can on my scat at 500 miles. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Why is there a lot of blow by with Dodge engines?
I do agree with you. The 392 is better left alone. Minor bolt ons but No superchargers.
I agree with you there. Chrysler didn't build the engine to handle boost. I had two 392's and they were a blast to drive completely stock!
Or just buy a forged block like I'm doing. A quality built forged block can handle up to 1200HP.
I agree...straight natural aspirated engine..maybe with a catch can..simple
Save ur life, license, & gas money
@@markurbancowboy thats pretty pathetic if you ask me. but it's no wonder tuners or btr or comp cams hate building shit for dodge. sucks because the 392 is almost a 10k engine while a LS family block can be bought for as low as 1500 to top of a line 454 LSX for 5-7k with over 500hp and tons of mods left open. and its tuner friendly ! challengers and chargers are badass looking but they're shit for modding them. 1000 for a pcm and lame close to stock tune? no thanks
It never ceases to amaze me with how many people will post a comment and not know the slightest damn thing about an engine or it's components.
About the smoke coming out of your exhaust. I had a similar issue with my Challenger RT. Turns out the valve seals were installed incorrectly at the factory in 2 of the cylinders. It took me taking it to the dealer several times for them to figure that out. Hope this helps you out dude.
Michael Saczawa yes it’s valve steam seals either bad or installed incorrectly
Valve seals install incorrectly? Dodge is a joke..
RE Oil Smoke at Cold Start .
The Only think I can Think of is Faulty Valve Stem Oil Seal / Seals See what the Dealer Says. NO ! You don't need a Engine Overhaul .
@Michael Gribbins i agree 👌
I'm never getting these 12 minutes back.
I'm a Chrysler engineer. This is most certainly an early sign of Turbo Encabulator failure. This is very common on newer FCA products. There is a field service bulletin regarding this. Just call your Dodge dealer and ask to have it replaced or retuned if needed.
Danny brink do you have a email? I have a ram 1500 2012 2wd with a 5.7 hemi I have a couple of questions.
I would have to agree. The original machine had a base plate of prefabulated amulite, surmounted by a malleable logarithmic casing in such a way that the two main spurving bearings were in a direct line with the panametric fan. The latter consisted simply of six hydrocoptic marzlevanes, so fitted to the ambifacient lunar waneshaft that side fumbling was effectively prevented. The main winding was of the normal lotus-o-deltoid type placed in panendermic semi-boloid slots in the stator, every seventh conductor being connected by a nonreversible tremmie pipe to the differential girdlespring on the "up" end of the grammeters.
WTF kind of useless babble is this? This guy doesn't no a piston from a Snickers Bar. I've owned 3 Scat Paks and now a Challenger Hellcat. Many mods are available to unleash more power. Be careful of voiding your warranty. As for smoke on cold start. I have never experienced this. BUT, a catch can will likely eliminate it.
Un burned fuel. That what the smoke was. SRT Technician
Video starts at 5:39. You are welcome.
So your advice for upgrading a 392 is to buy a hellcat? No $hit
Lol
@@Clyo754 This had me cracking up too lol
I’m a huge fan of keeping cars stock. I’m also a guy who keeps cars for long timespans and wants reliability. Companies invest millions and millions of dollars making performance cars that will be fast and reliable/durable. I’m not messing with it and you won’t be able to use much more than 485 in the street anyways.
Dude all you need to do is put a oil catch can on the motor, the first mod that should be done
What do you have done to this thing? "Video Games Broo" 😂😂 wth
New 392s including the RAM pickups also do that on cold start up. It is coming from the valve stem seals, it is normal.
It may be normal for one that is about wore out. I buy new vehicle and it does that its going back.
This IS NOT normal. You should not be burning oil on startup
No smoke on 2nd start because car was warm. Always check on your cold starts
Spaghetti in the catalytic converters
My SRT8 is bone stock and I plan to keep her that way. Problems happen when you do mods.
5.7 is gr8 on power and if you want to modd theres lots you can do and still have a strong engine with no issues
Nah
you cant do shit with a 5.7. only 2 cam options and procharger that's it.
I’ve heard the 5.7 stock internals don’t like boost very much, and they still only make 385 crank power. I could get a V6 Camaro with FBO and a 93 pump tune and make close to 330 and have a 500 pound weight difference.
U can cam it long or short headers. And some cylinder heads. and your in scat pack power range Maybe even a bigger intake manifold and all the mustangs are looking at you all silly .hell even a stock 5.7 run just as good as a pony car
@@Numbers1and19more Ive heard the same about 392
You can hear the classic mopar tick on your motor already
$2.359/gal (93) here in Gainesville, Tx. Shell V-Nitro+
That's cheap! Where I live in Ontario Canada, it's about
O.969/litre! So times that by 3.8, that's what it would cost in gallons here! SMH...
That sounds nice. Over the winter man. Here in Maryland it's $2.59 just for regular :{
$3.80 here in Michigan for 93 octane.
After a car has sat over night and has some bad valve guides oil can slip by the worn valve guide and end up in the cylinder. When you make that first morning start up if you have some bad valve guides the tailpipes will smoke. I noticed it was your left bank that smoked. I wouldn't worry about it unless it remains.
Yep, it happens to my T/A sometimes too, and it happened to my SRT8 Challenger. Tends to happen more if I park the car on an incline. Most notably it can mean the oil is slightly overfilled and the previous engine run time was very short. It is just blow by getting cleaned out of the intake
The 392 has plenty of usable power. My daily driver is a 2017 SRT Challenger; just good all around fun. Yes, I wish it was like to old days of just adding parts and turning...well it is, but this is way more complicated. I might just do it anyway, but like you say for an additional $20k, I could have got a Helllcat. The truth is, I can't get the power to the ground now. It sounds great just stock. If anything, I would look at something to make it launch better. I could go with drag tires, but that takes away from the daily driver. It is a pretty good all-rounder, and that's why I got it in the first place. Sure, you could spend money invest in an upgrade, but you addressed the more basic question of should you. Making an assessment first is smart.
The only thing i can say is pull each spark plug if they are wet or are covered in oil get it to a shop asap.
Blue smoke like that on start up isn't generally a good sign. If it was really cold then there would be white smoke. The blue is a sign of oil being burnt in the cylinder or somehow escaping into the exhaust system and burning there. Why wouldn't you check your oil before start up? Low oil levels cause excessive heat, causes oil to lose its viscosity faster and provide less protection to critical engine components.
Catch can needed. It’s from beating on your car
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If you haven't fixed it yet....you have 1 of 3 issues. Your oil is overfilled...your valve guides are bad...your valve seals are bad. If you are checking your oil on your sloped driveway...you are definitely overfilling the engine with oil. Check it on a level surface.
+1 on you should be driving a Prius.
type1008mm hahahaha
It is a well known fact that that 392 engine is already maxed out by Chrysler you cannot modify it for more power the tolerances is are already maxed. You try to do anything besides simple things like exhaust and Tuner you will damage the motor
Dam I just wasted 12 minutes of my life. Plus the couple seconds to type this.....
No the couple of seconds are included in the video length time...
That startup is normal If you cold start, move the car a few feet and shut it off. The next startup will do that. My VVT Mustang 4.6 has always done that. I have 157,000 trouble free miles on it. Nice Car!
Exactly, my 6.1 300 does the same.
Avoid. 12 minutes of nothing. For ad money.
“I think, I feel, but have no specific reasons as to why not to buy a SCAT pack?”
Huh, I am a SCAT pack owner and knew nothing prior, but this is it in a nutshell. You can add a ton more power. The factory 392CID is a bored and stroked 5.7 block. You are correct there is a lot you can’t do but only because it’s already got high flo heads, shorty headers, and cylinder capacity increased with shorter stroke piston rods and lower profile pistons.
If you buy the stage 3 kit for the 5.7L you will get the top end of a 6.4L 392.
That block can be bored additionally safely, long tube headers added, cold air intake, PCM swap, exhaust diameter increased, and boost.
Right off the rip if you spend $250 for Z Automotive’s Fazer you will get additional drive modes including “Track Mode” which instantly changes the shift points and timing for better performance. He’ll just throwing away your Hockey pucks and putting some real racing rubber on it a little wider than stock would make a huge difference.
What I can’t understand is why you are dumping 91 octane gas into a stock SCAT Pack. Higher octane fuel is used to prevent detonation at the advanced timing settings required for running a radical camshaft.
A stock SCAT doesn’t even benefit from high octane fuel. You could pump jet fuel into your tank in that car and it won’t make it faster.
If you want can swap that entire engine with a Arrington Motosport’s 410CID longblock or complete engine.
WHATCH OUT FOR THE MDS LIFTER FAILURE
This is a scary thought. I always drive In sport mode unless I’m doing any long highway driving which I hardly ever do not being a daily driver. As a high performance engine they should of just left MDS out of the 6.4L. IMO.
@@cgkuch4184 because I have no mds option I get a fat 9mpg!! Its ok though. Not willin to get 12 mph and also have to pay for a short block.
Jordan Fetfatzes I agree with you! That’s why I said the SRT’s and 6.4L scats should not have the MDS. I’m hoping I have no issues down the road. I’d like to know how many have had issues with the MDS?
@@cgkuch4184 its basically the lifters not getting enpigh oil when they are not in use for the other 4 cylinders Overtime they become bad. A quick and good fix is the hellcat lifters
Jordan Fetfatzes I’ll keep that in mind. Again I always drive my car in sport. The MDS makes the exhaust sound Ike sh1t too. My car doesn’t have that infamous hemi tick either. My old 04 Ram did. Turned it was the exhaust manifold bolts breaking. I only put about 4000 miles / 7000 km a year on it. Time will tell I guess. 16,000k/10000miles on it now. What I’m keeping an eye on is the water pump. They are all shit across the whole vehicle platform.
That issue is your rings are going. Warranty won’t cover that.
Dude. 12 minutes of blabber. Always amazed how you guys waste our time. Shutting you out. .
Every time I start up my scat I hear ticking until the car gets up to normal temps and I keep thinking my engines messed up
Catch can. Mine is full between oil changes. 392 with 5k miles.
If.your catch can is full between oil changes you have other issues brother.
More HP than designed for means breaking things you don't upgrade.
Ok first if you have any questions about what you can do with the 392 just give alexis a call at speedlogix in west palm beach and she will let you know what you can do to add more power.
Find a wrecked Hellcat, have it bored and stroked to 6.4 liters, and put it and the Transmission from the Hellcat also into your car! You’d have a real sleeper with a good 1000hp.
Catch can bro, that's the key.
True CAI, headers, high flow cats, and a tune will do a lot to wake up that 392 even more, it's all bolt on but you'll void your warranty because it requires an unlocked PCM. If you really want to spend some money, a new cam and ported heads are the next step. No need for a supercharger when you can easily make 600 at the crank with bolt ons, a cam, and heads
And with some minor weight reduction, some are running high 10's.
Alex Andrews no need for supercharged when u can easily make 600 crank no no is better to be honest n say 392 don’t like boost at all there’s a reason all the 392 vids are muffler delete oil catch can a bunch of burnouts that’s it is all the same unless coyote&ls or LTS engines 💯
Alex Andrews well he’s in Cali, if we get busted with a non CARB legal CAI, that’s a ticket straight to the ref. Pain in the ass if you ask me. I know a lot of guys duck the cops and all that, but you don’t know if a violation like that could affect his record and then affect his career.
That smoke comes from several cold starts, and Not letting engine warm up after cold starts. Raw fuel washed oil off of cylinder walls and is then burned on next start up.
4:48 water condensate. When you turn off your car in cooler or humid weather, the hot exhaust condenses water. And when you start the car some time later that water evaporates causing the smoke.
It’s called a cold start 🤦🏻♂️ every engine does it
my honda has 250k miles on it and it doesnt smoke during start up at all
I bet it’s that grandma air freshener hanging from the rear view mirror causing the issue 😂 love the Destroyer Grey 👊
My 5.7 challenger does smoke but not as much as what you showed on your challenger Edit: I have 19,398 miles
He has a 6.4l
Amanda Holleran and that is why I specified saying that I have a 5.7 hemi
Nicolas Zaroyan true I was just saying he had a 6.4
@@largenloud9744 6.4 5.7 there both Hemi's Beasts!
5.7s are beast
Back in the day, we bought cars without the internet. It was common, it was normal. We did modifications due to what we needed to do, intake, breather, fuel injectors, exhaust, suspension tunes etc. We didn't pay shops unless we had to. We also drove real, transmission cars. That being said, we knew everything about our cars.
White smoke from the exhaust is normally condensation, every vehicle does it when its cold and humidity is low. Bluish smoke is normally burning oil. IF you're truly burning oil with a low amount of mileage, you either destroyed your engine dogging the shit out of it, or some else did prior to you buying it, or you happened to get a bad product.
Although with Chrysler's "Dodge", track record of problems, unfortunately you will be seeing the dealer for things you can't fix yourself, multiple times.
Having said that, we didn't have RUclips channels to "research" and use other people ideas to fix our problems, we simply went to a real mechanic. All these plug and play tuners at garages, do not make you a mechanic.
Why do I only have motorcycles and an older Jeep you ask? Because I don't have the money to afford a nicer car? No. Because I don't make enough money? No.
It's because I can fix these things without going to a dealer, at home, in my garage.
Parts are cheap and common and the work is easy and doesn't take very long. Plus, the dealer is not taking my car out back and rolling the tires all over the place like they will your 392.
You STILL don't have an OIL CATCH CAN?! Bruh.. get that! Haha
After watching all the way to the end, you killed this video my guy! Great information and well put! The main reason however that a 392 can't handle boost is the piston ring placement. Once that issue is fixed with Drop in pistons/rods you can really add some power and smoke stock hellcats with ease!
Does a oil catch can void the warranty?
Saint Dre'ko nope
If it’s cold enough you could’ve got a little bit ice crystals in your exhaust
You literally have no idea what you’re talking about I have plenty of buddies with stock crank pistons with pro chargers and super chargers !????
The oil burning at startup, sounds like valve guide seals wearing out. The fact that it did it at startup and not every time, means they are just starting to wear out and not completely wore out. two remedies for three fill ups a week, buy a Tesla or treat the gas pedal like there is an egg under it
Hemi=💴💴 everything is more expensive
If you don't have a catch can the oil was probably from the recirc of oil that goes back thru the combustion chamber.