I remember when Tommy & EDL did a march in Bristol nearly half of the guys with him were black & about a third white & a mixture of others they were being called racists by a completely white crowd.
I even wish it was just criticism 😂 thous ppl will be doing the worst things that the most notorious Christian fundamentalist can't even imagine and ppl will be fine with cos they are brown ppl , and apparently to them brown ppl are just npcs who shouldn't be held accountable
I‘m Chinese and this morning I opened the Chinese version of TikTok to find a video posted by Chinese muslims. It’s a Japanese girl (non Muslim) asked to try hijab by a muslim woman and after putting it on, the Japanese girl politely said it’s not as hot as she thought. Chinese muslims in the comments are saying the girl looks more beautiful in the hijab and it truly disgusts me. The Japanese girl is clearly just being polite, why do they make it seem like she’s going to convert? Islamists use videos like this for propaganda but when muslim women want to take off the hijab, what will happen to them? It’s true that Chinese and Japanese (and Korean) people have many historical and political problems among us, but culturally we are so close to each other. We have similar traditional costumes, languages, festivals and ideas about how the world functions and what an ideal society should be like. So my fellow east Asian women, remember we are beautiful in hanfu, kimono and hanbok, not hijab. We must protect the culture that is behind these traditional costumes, as well as our right to wear T-shirts and other modern clothes. Do not let Islam corrupt our culture!
Its way more than stupid. It is dangerous. Chopping off hands and feet, un aliving (via hanging/crucifiction as in Iran) people for being gay, or women for exposing hair, or leaving Islam. Discusting 7th century laws. @kaly7256
Ironically, the reason why muslim women wear hijab is to make themselves look LESS attractive, so that Muslim men won’t be ‘tempted’. Claiming that it makes women look better is really sick and twisted. Tell any Muslim women who claims that wearing a hijab makes her look ‘beautiful’ that she is actually going against the teachings of Mohamed, who told women to cover their beauty so they wouldn’t tempt men!!
Yeah wait until they gain more power and they throw your brown ass out too 😂 then we’ll see if you support him … it’s all done in levels … go look up back in the day when fascist had power how anybody that wasn’t pure white was treated… people are so dumb they are supporting their own demise
Aladdin, I thought he was good but when he started to support terrorist Hamas I'm done with him he was showing how he is stupid , attacking AP for him stand with Israel, I mean it's his choice not yours , he just wants fame
@@Your-master-S1 He didn't do that. He specifically said he condemn Hamas. And AP was celebrating the killing of people. No humanist would do that. And his collaboration with Wood is making him toxic and cruel. You can condemn the actions of Israel and the actions of Hamas. Any atheist worth its salt would not rejoice or justify the killing of civilians even if there are combatants hiding among them.
@@northernlight8857 he didn't say I condemn Hamas, because he even don't see it as terrorist group from the first place, AP don't celebrate children dies he celebrate leaders of terrorist dying and standing with Israel even went there to meet nice people+ we all know what is going to happen if Hamas took over we all going to disappear, just look at Europe, or for example what is happening in Bangladesh right now
@@northernlight8857 yes the killing of barbarous people who would shed no tears for the murder of jews if he says these people should die why is that bad bit your possibly an atheist and he doesnt rejoice the killing of people and if the enemy did hide among the innocent they wound be killed how can you blame Israel alone when Hamas is putting them in danger
@@northernlight8857 You can't "condemn the actions of Israel and the actions of H@mas". That's INSANITY. That is what we mean by being pro H@mas. I'll show you what it is. "I condemn the actions of H1tler, and I condemn the actions of Churchill." Case closed.
If he truly became a western style leftist he defines himself only by condemning and vilifying others. If he puts on an act he tries to use leftist moralism to gain power foe his tribe
I think Aladdins' problem is that he has left Islam, but he still has the mentality of a religious follower. His mind is already made up about Tommy, so there isn't any evidence that would prove him otherwise.
There is an enormous sense of entitlement in mainstream Sunni Arab culture. This goes also for "secular" or Christian Arabs. Look at Christian "Palestinians" for example... BOTTOMLESS pathology. So I think he's an ex-Muslim, but still feels the entitlement of that culture.
It's crazy that a person sharing Atheist Republic in the UK might be subjected to repression from the state as from autocratic countries, considering how authoritarian the UK government has become.
I wonder if Aladdin shields his face because of threats to his life, or because he's a narcissist who enjoys the mystique of a shielded identity to protect his ego?
@@r0b0coffee a lot of AA fans believe it's the former, hence why they're going after Harris Sultan for not doing the same to Infidel Noodle... Even though it's clear how night and day the treatment of women is compared to the treatment of men in Islamic and Islamicized societies... Aladdin still has the luxury of not being sexually exploited by the ummah. If IN shows her face then any Abdul will fkn deepfake it onto a pr0n star because 'subjugating kafir or mushrik woman le good'
@@r0b0coffee No he said in one of his past videos that his family still lives in the middle east apparently. Radical muslims threaten to hurt them and stuff, so he keeps his identity secret.
LMAO, Aladdin is trying to be manipulative and spin things around to make them seem invalid, but he's really not got enough brains to do it successfully.
Because he is Anti-Islam. Which by uninformed people is being understood as being anti-foreigners. And maybe - He got Pegida wrong. Pegida are racist and always were, given, that they were protesting against refugees in the region with the lowest rate of foreigners, but the highest rate of real neonazis and the highest rate of people willing to become violent with non-germans, non-nazis, and with christians. Or just to feel powerful.
That last question about Mosab vs Chenk. No idea why Mosab would stoop that low debating with a person who knows nothing about Hamas. Chenk was literally repeating the tired narratives and trope used by Qatar and Iran sponsored terrorist sympathizer activists.
I think Mosab is just desperate to spread his message to as many people as possible because he knows the whole situation better than most, even at a cost of having to deal with copy-paste propagandists
@@milospavlovic7520 Yes, he's spoken about the difficulty of getting people from that side debating him. (For understandable reasons, they have lost as soon as they are invited.) So I think he has to scrape a little from the bottom of the barrel when it comes to opponents.
@@milospavlovic7520 I can see that too considering Chenk has 6 million subscribers on RUclips. But then again subscriber count doesn't correlate with masterful debates.
@@levantics Secular humanism always holds a high standard. But ut requires maturity and compassion. People usually get there with life experience and if they get out of the angry atheist phase. We have great people like Stephen Fry and Dan Barker.
@@user-yr3tt6xj1r I've not followed Sultan or AP much. But I recognize appeasement when I see it... and "Aladdin" is trying to appease Muslims. We don't let him get away with it. He's throwing his allies under the bus. Because as we all know, he isn't wearing a mask for fear of his fellow ex-Muslims.
I caught Apostate Alladin right after he first appeared online, & well before he started attacking AP. Within minutes I knew he was a jerk so I never watched his stuff. So many online exMuslims are so cool I was eager to check him out, but his stupidity & emitional immaturity comes out pretty quickly.
that's actually true for nawabi and sultan they left islam but the extremism has never left them the point is never to hate the people but the idea these guys like nawabi and sultan and AP always hate the people whereas Aladdin hates the idea ghalib kamal hates the idea they are pro humanity these idiots are pro discrimination
I don't like A. Alladin. He has no respect for other people's work. Harris Sultan , Apostat P. and you, Armin, you all do an excellent job. Alladin is very petty , mediocre, envious, jealous.
@@trevorwongsam8178 he's an actual apostate, he just doesn't agree with them on politics and criticized the most prominent figure for it, they just don't appreciate being called out on their mistakes, they want to keep spreading hateful and misleading messages to the world without being insulted and AA isn't one to stay silent when something is wrong
He has the best exmuslim content I have seen to date. But it takes all sorts in the movement. AA is for humanistic people. People with empathy and that value human rights. Many people are more drawn to the bloodsports of debate or ridiculing of religious people/religious ideas Much of his stuff are talking to people. From a dialogue standpoint he is extremely good at it considering he is not educated at that as far as I know. The only ones that are better that springs to mind are Dan Barker at freedom from religion foundation and Christy Powell at AXP./secular sexuality. e@@trevorwongsam8178
Harris didn't even bring up AP he just said if you're going to make a hit piece on somebody and then Aladdin interrupted him and said ap's not here he's really butthurt by about AP and about Tommy Robinson
Aladdin is disingenuous and envious of anyone that does better than he does and the amount of times that he has defended Islam is ridiculous, so it almost makes you think that he really isn't an ex-muslim. He's a loser
@@karlscher5170He really doesn't and he's talked openly about not relating to Muslims/Arabs. He's also critical of islamism. He just wants to get to the bottom of whether there is genuine bigotry in exmuslim spaces because he feels that that hurts the cause and makes questioning Muslims less likely to leave
@@caitlina2242 I'm not a native english speaker and i struggle with the meaning of 'bigot'. I have a suspicion that it relates to something that is unique to Anglo-Saxon culture. Can you describe the meaning of it? As I understand it originally had a religious meaning that it doesn't anymore?
Im torn about Tommy. Obviously he is largely right about islam. It's his perceived attitude to muslims that seems to cause concern. He probably gets bad publicity from the media to some extent. Some justified, some not. It's probably more accurate to support ideas rather than everything a person says or their entire character.
@@rossini55 It doesn't but it takes away the trust in his long term stability and trustworthyness. I guess at this point it all depends on the people around him and it seems that he surounds himself with hooligans with bowling ball heads.
To be clear…Aladdin wears his pants on his face for what reason? So that Tommy doesn’t recognise him? No, ofc not-get real you are letting the side down lad.
As I mentioned in the chat, calling someone "Abdel" - I'll use the French equivalent - is not a slur; I was confused by all the Moroccan grocers in my area going by that name. I asked one of my best friends of Algerian Kabyl descent if this was really such a common given name. He explained that it was short for plenty of names, in the 100s, associated with the Muslim prophet: Abdelatiff, Abdelrahman, Abdelkader, Abdelaziz, etc. Saying that this ("Abdel") would be the equivalent of a slur like the term "gringo" is inaccurate. "Gringo" is misunderstood Spanish for an Irish-American folk song beginning with "Green goes...". An equivalent to "Abdel " would be "Joe" or "Jack" which are often used as nicknames for John, Joseph, etc. These are not slurs. "Yankee" is used as a slur in Europe for "American."
For Tommy to use 'Abdul' to refer to Muslims in general is a figure of speech - using a part to represent the whole (I think it's called metonymy - I need to look this up). If one was talking about random British people, one might say, 'any Tom, Dick and Harry', meaning any person, without caring who they are, or whether they deserve to be included in something.
@northernlight8857 Well it's a name that many people have, chosen by their parents so they don't see it as derogatory. I mean I wouldn't call my child Slave. Perhaps religion has influenced their mind so much that they are PROUD to be a slave (of allah). Weird.
@@anonymous_4276 Slave is Abd. Abdul is short for Abdullah, which literally the slave of allah. This is what muslims call themselves. This is what the quran calls muslims. No muslim sees being a slave of allah as derogatory.
Initially, I had a soft corner towards Apostate Alladin because, he looked younger than HS or AP. But, he seems to go in a different direction than I thought. In my opinion, he needs more exposure and experience. I hope that he will correct himself. His face mask is his choice. I cannot comment on that.
The trouble is normal rational people lose their heads, become overly emotional and use language incorrectly and even say things they don't mean during heated debates and when under stress and duress. Here we have otherwise good people - Muslim or otherwise-talking past and over each other.
Anyone saying that Apostate Aladdin is still a secret Muslim is SO CRINGE, it's driving me crazy. Come up with an actual argument against him for gods sake. Or asking him to take off his mask, these things are irrelevant.
Well i had to sit on “ he left islam but islam has not entirely left him yet” i found it worth pondering. Not in relation to anyone in particular. The concept
I don't like when people use muslim as an insult to begin with, but it's pretty dumb to call AA that, just because he was wrong and bad faith on some stuff doesn't mean he isn't exmuslim
Yeah Aladdin doesn't come off as somebody who is pretending to be a apostate while secretly still being in the Uma, He comes off as somebody who has left but hasn't been jaded by attacks on him by the Uma. And it's probably because he's a smaller channel still He also comes off as he switched from one extreme ideology of is of basic Islam to a extreme ideology of far left politics and It's fogging his perception. He just wants to be nice, its simple as that.
He is clearly an Ex Muslim but he seems to have a strong dislike of western civilisation. I mean the guy posted in the comments of one of his videos that Christianity is more dangerous than Islam.
Glad to hear Armin criticizing the use of "f***ing abduls". I think we do need to acknowledge the racism in this phrase, though. I dont think being angry excuses racist language, and recognizing that type of language as such doesn't make you a snowflake. It reveals a genuine hostility under the surface that should make us question Tommy Robinson's intentions. Sad to see all of the ad hominem attacks against Apostate Aladdin, I thought we were supposed to be grounded in rationalism here.
What does Abdul mean? It's a contracted version of Abdullah, which means "slave of Allah". All Muslims are slaves of Allah. It's about Islam. Islam is a religion and a political ideology. Not a race. The correct classification you need is "religious discrimination"; however even then, the heart of the Islamic World i.e. the nations that are primarily Muslim and have constitutions that defer to Shariah, as well as their populace, fully agree with the inhumane teachings you see in Quran ayas and Hadiths graded "Sahih". CIRA International, a channel made by Al-Fadi, has made a series on "Islam: West vs East" and you can see how starkly different Islamic countries see Islam compared to Muslims in the West.
It's like calling Italians Luigi or Chinese person Wong Cheng or something. Context matters. He was arrested, handcuffed, seating in a police car, angry complaining how they are treating him...while they are letting every Luigi or Wong Chong to enter the country. It's mildly offensive, no big deal. But by the woke criteria it's like capital offence. So to a guy like Aladdin I would say that this "incident" happened practically yesterday. Tommy Robinson is active for more then 10 years. So Aladdin "knew" that Tommy was a horrible person long before this last "racist outburst". So I'd just ask for another example.
The issue was that Aladdin was being condescending and dismissive, bordering narcissism rather than supportive of others who are on the same side of the issues but have nuanced differences in their opinions.
imagine feeling offended when someone using the term ABDOOLL but here in my country actual politician were insulting non muslim from rival party as kafir harbi which is cannot be accepted as a country with multiple ethnicities and religions , respect for Haris Sultan and AA need to learn more from experience youtuber
@@northernlight8857A decent human being who ignores facts, and doesn’t have a clue about issues MORE important than misuse of language? Doesn’t admit to fault when attacking others dishonestly based on false information? Really? AA may mean well but clearly lacks judgement and maturity and does not have a good grasp of what the most important issues are, which leaves him vulnerable to BS narratives.
Little Aladdin is hilariously childish on how he behaves. And all the drama involving him, abusing trusts from his members, especially the ex Muslim women, who actually trust him, how he in a way grooms them. Slandering any ex Muslim who disagrees with him, and acts big and tough, but avoids actually having any form of confrontation with people
I think Peter Boghossian would be the best person to talk with AA as Peter is good at going at it systematically with someone who can't think straight. Anyone wanting to learn the method, you could read A Manual for Creating Atheists, then you may apply the method on yourself in private.
I think we have to face the fact that sometimes people we might not like, say things that are true and that we support. And sometimes people we like and respect say things that are utter nonsense and we condemn. So if you agree with something that someone horrible says, you often get associated with everything that person stands for. Thats just how it is. TOUGH!
@@levantics It was a furious statement along the lines of "that guy can now live freely in "city name" and even remove mask if he wans to because we have done this before and took flak, so new content creators will receive less attacks because of us" kind of thing, where city name was a city Harris heard somewhere that Aladin was in and thought it was a common knowledge, but it turned out it was a wrong city and a wrong state
Remember, the word 'racist' has been redefined to include anyone who criticizes Islam. According to that definition then the masked man is correct. According to the Cairo Declaration of Human Rights (the Islamic revision of the Declaration of Human Rights) non-Muslims and all women do not qualify as 'human'. So accordingly they are 100% in favour of 'human' rights. The definition of 'terrorist' excludes jihadi Muslims, so of course they are 100% against 'terrorism'. 'Slander' is saying something a Muslim does not want known. So of course they are 100% against slander. When you see it you can't unsee it. This form of double-speak infuses their 'holy' book on every page.
Same. I also found out that it's kinda valid in terms of spelling, not to mention that Muhammad did say all followers can only be Abdullah(slaves of Allah) as any other association with Allah is considered shirk(even though they kiss the black stone which they also associate with Allah) Yeah Islam is a scriptural mess even when solely looking at the Quran and Hadith... The Tafsir and Tahri do nothing to help. No wonder why dawahgandists were scrambling when Yasir Qadhi admitted the Standard Islamic Narrative has holes.
AA is off ended when he's called a secret Muslim, or hasn't left Islam. He says he was Muslim, didn't like the belief, and left, yet he can't believe that TR could be part of a group, disagree with the beliefs and leave. 🤔
On the contrary I am proudly islamophobic but regard myself as far centre because I am anti-tyrannical whether it's Nazism, islamofascist, Stalinist etc.
@@Zayli87 To me, Aladdin feels even MORE dishonest than that. I get the feeling he just USES those leftist talking points. I'd bet envy, jealousy and entitlement is what drives his "critiques".
I am thinking about your admonition not to say: they have left Islam but Islam has not left them. I have been feeling that there is some truth in that saying, and it would be normal, as our experiences really shape us, especially our early ones. But we can become aware and change. -When I see intelligent, grown men go at each other in this fashion I see what I see on some Muslim channels: scolding, taunting, scolding…in public! Goodness, they even get to beat their wives. To be honest, what I see lacking in the atheist ex-atheists who like to lash others without speaking with them in private directly first, is biblical principles. Firstly, there are the Ten Commandments: one of them is: do not speak false witness against your neighbor. Someone’s reputation is very important to him. Do Not defame people. It’s a horrible thing to do, almost like killing or theft. Also there is: don’t covet. If someone has a bigger house, a bigger audience, bigger muscles, a prettier wife…it does not matter. Your first relationship is with God and he gives you all good gifts in measure and time, as he chooses. Just do the right thing and don’t worry and be grateful. Then there also is Matthew 18, where the conflict resolution process in a community is laid out.
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I remember when Tommy & EDL did a march in Bristol nearly half of the guys with him were black & about a third white & a mixture of others they were being called racists by a completely white crowd.
Muslims criticise everyone else and the world seem to be blind to it.
@@revelationtime7507 Yes. Anything outside Islam is Haram to them. It seems so, today.
Even worse is their entitlement and think that it's their birth right to rub their belief on everyones faces.. it's seriously suffocating😢
I even wish it was just criticism 😂 thous ppl will be doing the worst things that the most notorious Christian fundamentalist can't even imagine and ppl will be fine with cos they are brown ppl , and apparently to them brown ppl are just npcs who shouldn't be held accountable
@@meme72397 It's even PATHOLOGICAL. It's not normal behavior.
they have a fragile mentality , also they call for sharia and intifadas , i dont blame the people , its the warped ideology
I‘m Chinese and this morning I opened the Chinese version of TikTok to find a video posted by Chinese muslims. It’s a Japanese girl (non Muslim) asked to try hijab by a muslim woman and after putting it on, the Japanese girl politely said it’s not as hot as she thought. Chinese muslims in the comments are saying the girl looks more beautiful in the hijab and it truly disgusts me. The Japanese girl is clearly just being polite, why do they make it seem like she’s going to convert? Islamists use videos like this for propaganda but when muslim women want to take off the hijab, what will happen to them? It’s true that Chinese and Japanese (and Korean) people have many historical and political problems among us, but culturally we are so close to each other. We have similar traditional costumes, languages, festivals and ideas about how the world functions and what an ideal society should be like. So my fellow east Asian women, remember we are beautiful in hanfu, kimono and hanbok, not hijab. We must protect the culture that is behind these traditional costumes, as well as our right to wear T-shirts and other modern clothes. Do not let Islam corrupt our culture!
save your country before its too late. save China, Japan , Korea
finally ! Chinese in the online battle to save humanity, from the stupid sharia,.
Its way more than stupid. It is dangerous. Chopping off hands and feet, un aliving (via hanging/crucifiction as in Iran) people for being gay, or women for exposing hair, or leaving Islam. Discusting 7th century laws.
@kaly7256
Ironically, the reason why muslim women wear hijab is to make themselves look LESS attractive, so that Muslim men won’t be ‘tempted’. Claiming that it makes women look better is really sick and twisted. Tell any Muslim women who claims that wearing a hijab makes her look ‘beautiful’ that she is actually going against the teachings of Mohamed, who told women to cover their beauty so they wouldn’t tempt men!!
They are so dumb and uneducated.
EDL disbanded over a decade ago.
But the Muslim Defense League (MDL) is organized in the Mosque.
Was the EDL organised initially to welcome and support soldiers returning home , who were being met with hostility??
We have to put up with it nothing will be done.
Tommy is a true patriot, me as a brown person totally support him.
Same
Yeah wait until they gain more power and they throw your brown ass out too 😂 then we’ll see if you support him … it’s all done in levels … go look up back in the day when fascist had power how anybody that wasn’t pure white was treated… people are so dumb they are supporting their own demise
Great stream like always. Thank you for keeping us informed
If they are racist.Which category do you put muslims in????
@@revelationtime7507 The ”mental asylum” category.
Protected class
Future ex-Muslims.
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Ideological supremacist bigotry of delusional obsession with sex and death
Thank you to the Godless republic.
Have a nice evening! 😉
@@purenkool2024 You charmer, same too you!
There was something about Apostate Alladin when I first heard him. Now I understand better.
lool what do you mean?
Passive agressive power hunger. He likes to control what other people are saying and doing
Armin your review and breakdown of the situation between HS and AA was on point✅✅✅
Abduls are given to muslims by allah meaning slaves of allah. So calling mislims abduls is not racist because allah use that name.
Aladdin, I thought he was good but when he started to support terrorist Hamas I'm done with him he was showing how he is stupid , attacking AP for him stand with Israel, I mean it's his choice not yours , he just wants fame
@@Your-master-S1 He didn't do that. He specifically said he condemn Hamas. And AP was celebrating the killing of people. No humanist would do that. And his collaboration with Wood is making him toxic and cruel. You can condemn the actions of Israel and the actions of Hamas. Any atheist worth its salt would not rejoice or justify the killing of civilians even if there are combatants hiding among them.
@@northernlight8857 he didn't say I condemn Hamas, because he even don't see it as terrorist group from the first place, AP don't celebrate children dies he celebrate leaders of terrorist dying and standing with Israel even went there to meet nice people+ we all know what is going to happen if Hamas took over we all going to disappear, just look at Europe, or for example what is happening in Bangladesh right now
@@Your-master-S1 he did say that multiple times you're just purposefully ignoring that because it suits your narrative
@@northernlight8857 yes the killing of barbarous people who would shed no tears for the murder of jews if he says these people should die why is that bad bit your possibly an atheist and he doesnt rejoice the killing of people and if the enemy did hide among the innocent they wound be killed how can you blame Israel alone when Hamas is putting them in danger
@@northernlight8857 You can't "condemn the actions of Israel and the actions of H@mas". That's INSANITY. That is what we mean by being pro H@mas. I'll show you what it is. "I condemn the actions of H1tler, and I condemn the actions of Churchill." Case closed.
Apostate Aladdin first spoke against AP and now Harris Sultan....🤯
If he truly became a western style leftist he defines himself only by condemning and vilifying others. If he puts on an act he tries to use leftist moralism to gain power foe his tribe
What's next, he'll go against Al-Fadi or Ayaan Hirsi Ali?
And rightly so. AP made fun of people being killed. And Sultan was the first to throw stones.
@@demonking86420Ali is a Christian grifter so she is irrelevant.
@@northernlight8857 He did not. Stop spreading lies.
I have read Robinson’s book. Read it
Tommy ❤ is a Patriot.
Also his documentaries a real eye opener.
Thanks Armin❤
I think Aladdins' problem is that he has left Islam, but he still has the mentality of a religious follower. His mind is already made up about Tommy, so there isn't any evidence that would prove him otherwise.
There is an enormous sense of entitlement in mainstream Sunni Arab culture. This goes also for "secular" or Christian Arabs. Look at Christian "Palestinians" for example... BOTTOMLESS pathology. So I think he's an ex-Muslim, but still feels the entitlement of that culture.
Islamist and leftist mindset is pretty similar
Could be he's a leftist yeah
He has regained brain function but there's still some quronavirus lingering in his blood!
Tommy is patriot,
Love his country
Great stream
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It's crazy that a person sharing Atheist Republic in the UK might be subjected to repression from the state as from autocratic countries, considering how authoritarian the UK government has become.
I wonder if Aladdin shields his face because of threats to his life, or because he's a narcissist who enjoys the mystique of a shielded identity to protect his ego?
@@r0b0coffee a lot of AA fans believe it's the former, hence why they're going after Harris Sultan for not doing the same to Infidel Noodle... Even though it's clear how night and day the treatment of women is compared to the treatment of men in Islamic and Islamicized societies... Aladdin still has the luxury of not being sexually exploited by the ummah. If IN shows her face then any Abdul will fkn deepfake it onto a pr0n star because 'subjugating kafir or mushrik woman le good'
@@r0b0coffee No he said in one of his past videos that his family still lives in the middle east apparently. Radical muslims threaten to hurt them and stuff, so he keeps his identity secret.
So Tommy cant leave a racist group but Aladdin can leave islam? Interesting
Nothing wrong with being racist. This is a buzz word to bulky wyt pipo
LMAO, Aladdin is trying to be manipulative and spin things around to make them seem invalid, but he's really not got enough brains to do it successfully.
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How did Tommy Robinson get his "far-right" moniker?
Because the far L call anyone that disagrees with them far right
Because he is Anti-Islam. Which by uninformed people is being understood as being anti-foreigners.
And maybe - He got Pegida wrong. Pegida are racist and always were, given, that they were protesting against refugees in the region with the lowest rate of foreigners, but the highest rate of real neonazis and the highest rate of people willing to become violent with non-germans, non-nazis, and with christians. Or just to feel powerful.
Be white. Disagree. Become far right
@@babooshcat4129 Paying taxes is probably enough to warrant that label.
Because he started the EDL
Everytime I see Ensaf Haidar, Raif Badawi's wife, I get SO emotional!!!
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ARMIN AND SUSANNA DO LIVESTREAMS WITH OTHER EXMUSLIMS TO INCREASE YOUR CHANNEL OUTREACH.
Armin did with AP. But I think they argued because Armin demanded that AP must hate all teligions equally but AP actually doesn't mind christianity.
That last question about Mosab vs Chenk. No idea why Mosab would stoop that low debating with a person who knows nothing about Hamas. Chenk was literally repeating the tired narratives and trope used by Qatar and Iran sponsored terrorist sympathizer activists.
I think Mosab is just desperate to spread his message to as many people as possible because he knows the whole situation better than most, even at a cost of having to deal with copy-paste propagandists
@@milospavlovic7520 Yes, he's spoken about the difficulty of getting people from that side debating him. (For understandable reasons, they have lost as soon as they are invited.) So I think he has to scrape a little from the bottom of the barrel when it comes to opponents.
@@milospavlovic7520 I can see that too considering Chenk has 6 million subscribers on RUclips. But then again subscriber count doesn't correlate with masterful debates.
The thing is Mosab isn't picky on who he debates.
@@demonking86420 Why. not?
Aladdin is a crybaby
He just holds people to a higher standard. A standard of secular humanism.
@@northernlight8857 A very low standard of secular humanism in that case. He reminds me of the PLO. ”We’re not H@mas” is their USP.
@@levantics Secular humanism always holds a high standard. But ut requires maturity and compassion. People usually get there with life experience and if they get out of the angry atheist phase. We have great people like Stephen Fry and Dan Barker.
@@northernlight8857 Thank you. Finally someone with some sense in here apart from diehard Harris Sultan/AP fans.
@@user-yr3tt6xj1r I've not followed Sultan or AP much. But I recognize appeasement when I see it... and "Aladdin" is trying to appease Muslims. We don't let him get away with it. He's throwing his allies under the bus. Because as we all know, he isn't wearing a mask for fear of his fellow ex-Muslims.
I caught Apostate Alladin right after he first appeared online, & well before he started attacking AP. Within minutes I knew he was a jerk so I never watched his stuff. So many online exMuslims are so cool I was eager to check him out, but his stupidity & emitional immaturity comes out pretty quickly.
This "ex-Muslim" character has become a religion in of itself. Where spiteful christians go and watch.
What you said cannot be further from the truth, thats all.
Aladdin left Islam but Islam never left him.
This is what I noticed yesterday when I watched my first video of him.
Harris is an undercover muslim
that's actually true for nawabi and sultan they left islam but the extremism has never left them the point is never to hate the people but the idea these guys like nawabi and sultan and AP always hate the people whereas Aladdin hates the idea ghalib kamal hates the idea they are pro humanity these idiots are pro discrimination
I don't like A. Alladin. He has no respect for other people's work. Harris Sultan , Apostat P. and you, Armin, you all do an excellent job. Alladin is very petty , mediocre, envious, jealous.
Great summary. One shouldn’t have favorites among these legends, but I think Armin Navabi’s commentary is sharpest of them all.
@@paulainesmachado There is no reason to respect it.
Is he even an actual Apostate or is he a Muslim plant? I don't follow him but am curious.
@@trevorwongsam8178 he's an actual apostate, he just doesn't agree with them on politics and criticized the most prominent figure for it, they just don't appreciate being called out on their mistakes, they want to keep spreading hateful and misleading messages to the world without being insulted and AA isn't one to stay silent when something is wrong
He has the best exmuslim content I have seen to date. But it takes all sorts in the movement. AA is for humanistic people. People with empathy and that value human rights. Many people are more drawn to the bloodsports of debate or ridiculing of religious people/religious ideas Much of his stuff are talking to people. From a dialogue standpoint he is extremely good at it considering he is not educated at that as far as I know. The only ones that are better that springs to mind are Dan Barker at freedom from religion foundation and Christy Powell at AXP./secular sexuality. e@@trevorwongsam8178
Where Islam lives freedom Dies
Where Islam lives trouble follows
Tommy basically want Britain to stay Britain…
33:20 AA seems very weak and very emotional in his response here….
Harris didn't even bring up AP he just said if you're going to make a hit piece on somebody and then Aladdin interrupted him and said ap's not here he's really butthurt by about AP and about Tommy Robinson
alladin is a cry boy__ trying to gain attention by naming harris
No. He just holds a standard and a maturity you lack. You are only an atheist..and it has lead you on a path of hatred and cruelty.
Aladdin is disingenuous and envious of anyone that does better than he does and the amount of times that he has defended Islam is ridiculous, so it almost makes you think that he really isn't an ex-muslim. He's a loser
Well said
I think he is against lslam as a belief system but still clings to lslam as a tribal identity
@@karlscher5170He really doesn't and he's talked openly about not relating to Muslims/Arabs. He's also critical of islamism. He just wants to get to the bottom of whether there is genuine bigotry in exmuslim spaces because he feels that that hurts the cause and makes questioning Muslims less likely to leave
@@caitlina2242 I'm not a native english speaker and i struggle with the meaning of 'bigot'. I have a suspicion that it relates to something that is unique to Anglo-Saxon culture. Can you describe the meaning of it? As I understand it originally had a religious meaning that it doesn't anymore?
So not worth talking with this masked toxic person
I'd go a step further: not worth listening to the masked toxic clown!
#tommyrobinson
Im torn about Tommy. Obviously he is largely right about islam. It's his perceived attitude to muslims that seems to cause concern. He probably gets bad publicity from the media to some extent. Some justified, some not.
It's probably more accurate to support ideas rather than everything a person says or their entire character.
He uses the nose powder though
@@karlscher5170 OK. But how does that nullify his arguments?
@@rossini55 It doesn't but it takes away the trust in his long term stability and trustworthyness. I guess at this point it all depends on the people around him and it seems that he surounds himself with hooligans with bowling ball heads.
@@karlscher5170 Maybe.
To be clear…Aladdin wears his pants on his face for what reason?
So that Tommy doesn’t recognise him?
No, ofc not-get real you are letting the side down lad.
I saw this stream live. Aladdin’ Mods would ban you if you disagreed with him
As I mentioned in the chat, calling someone "Abdel" - I'll use the French equivalent - is not a slur; I was confused by all the Moroccan grocers in my area going by that name. I asked one of my best friends of Algerian Kabyl descent if this was really such a common given name. He explained that it was short for plenty of names, in the 100s, associated with the Muslim prophet: Abdelatiff, Abdelrahman, Abdelkader, Abdelaziz, etc. Saying that this ("Abdel") would be the equivalent of a slur like the term "gringo" is inaccurate. "Gringo" is misunderstood Spanish for an Irish-American folk song beginning with "Green goes...". An equivalent to "Abdel " would be "Joe" or "Jack" which are often used as nicknames for John, Joseph, etc. These are not slurs. "Yankee" is used as a slur in Europe for "American."
Nice Job pointing out what is going on there.
But I can't even get through half of the video. The masked guy is littlerally unbearable.
For Tommy to use 'Abdul' to refer to Muslims in general is a figure of speech - using a part to represent the whole (I think it's called metonymy - I need to look this up). If one was talking about random British people, one might say, 'any Tom, Dick and Harry', meaning any person, without caring who they are, or whether they deserve to be included in something.
The literal translation of Abdul is slave. I'm not so sure that people use the word Abdul without a derogatory intent.
It's derogatory
Full stop.
@northernlight8857 Well it's a name that many people have, chosen by their parents so they don't see it as derogatory.
I mean I wouldn't call my child Slave.
Perhaps religion has influenced their mind so much that they are PROUD to be a slave (of allah).
Weird.
@@anonymous_4276 Slave is Abd. Abdul is short for Abdullah, which literally the slave of allah. This is what muslims call themselves. This is what the quran calls muslims. No muslim sees being a slave of allah as derogatory.
@@anonymous_4276 then why do so many parents name their kids it?
Aladdin, be like Elsa: Let it go!
Thanks you
Harris Sultan is great. AP is great. Atheist Republic is great. Apostate Aladdin is insufferable!
What does it mean to be far right
At this moment I feel like I need to relearn what it means lol
Yes, I’d like to know that also.
@@babooshcat4129it is a false term to stop white pipo from defending themselves.
It means you are not antiwhite
It’s just a term the left use to put people down. Hence it’s lost meaning
Respect to SemperFidelis and L:Trump as we got cut off. Shalom guys. Tordaraba.
See you again! 😁😉
So calling abduls is not ok but it's OK for muslims to call us kaffirs?
Valuable to watch ❤
the double A guy is a snowflake
Initially, I had a soft corner towards Apostate Alladin because, he looked younger than HS or AP. But, he seems to go in a different direction than I thought.
In my opinion, he needs more exposure and experience. I hope that he will correct himself. His face mask is his choice. I cannot comment on that.
Infidel Noodle has a great interview with Tirad Badawi which was heart warming. (sad but hopeful I mean)
The trouble is normal rational people lose their heads, become overly emotional and use language incorrectly and even say things they don't mean during heated debates and when under stress and duress. Here we have otherwise good people - Muslim or otherwise-talking past and over each other.
RIP UK 😢
#releasethehostages
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Thanks Armin. You saved me from watching the whole 'discussion' on his channel
Alaiden went after AP also. I say if if one demands that another use ones approved language then one must behave the way the other approves.
I call alladin criticizing tommy a chutzpah. A green boy who has done nothing that comes close to tommys efforts and impact
@@urielpolak9949 Yes AA holds a higher standard. Tommy is a controversial figure. He has done both good and bad things.
@@northernlight8857AA is coward
@@northernlight8857 who has not done both good and bad?!
@@moveone9013 No he is not. Anyone that put themselves out there are brave.What is your worldview?
@@northernlight8857 his face is not showing while criticizing ex-muslims who show their faces. He is coward
I have to admit Tommy is a terrible interviewer... first he rambles and don't speak clearly, and then he constantly interrupts.
some of these comments make me lose hope
Where did Aladdin come from and where is he now ? if he allows the sharing of such info of course.
Anyone saying that Apostate Aladdin is still a secret Muslim is SO CRINGE, it's driving me crazy. Come up with an actual argument against him for gods sake. Or asking him to take off his mask, these things are irrelevant.
Well i had to sit on “ he left islam but islam has not entirely left him yet” i found it worth pondering. Not in relation to anyone in particular. The concept
He's a wolf in sheep's clothing...
I don't like when people use muslim as an insult to begin with, but it's pretty dumb to call AA that, just because he was wrong and bad faith on some stuff doesn't mean he isn't exmuslim
Yeah Aladdin doesn't come off as somebody who is pretending to be a apostate while secretly still being in the Uma, He comes off as somebody who has left but hasn't been jaded by attacks on him by the Uma. And it's probably because he's a smaller channel still He also comes off as he switched from one extreme ideology of is of basic Islam to a extreme ideology of far left politics and It's fogging his perception. He just wants to be nice, its simple as that.
He is clearly an Ex Muslim but he seems to have a strong dislike of western civilisation. I mean the guy posted in the comments of one of his videos that Christianity is more dangerous than Islam.
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Glad to hear Armin criticizing the use of "f***ing abduls". I think we do need to acknowledge the racism in this phrase, though. I dont think being angry excuses racist language, and recognizing that type of language as such doesn't make you a snowflake. It reveals a genuine hostility under the surface that should make us question Tommy Robinson's intentions. Sad to see all of the ad hominem attacks against Apostate Aladdin, I thought we were supposed to be grounded in rationalism here.
Islam is not a race.
What does Abdul mean? It's a contracted version of Abdullah, which means "slave of Allah". All Muslims are slaves of Allah. It's about Islam. Islam is a religion and a political ideology. Not a race.
The correct classification you need is "religious discrimination"; however even then, the heart of the Islamic World i.e. the nations that are primarily Muslim and have constitutions that defer to Shariah, as well as their populace, fully agree with the inhumane teachings you see in Quran ayas and Hadiths graded "Sahih". CIRA International, a channel made by Al-Fadi, has made a series on "Islam: West vs East" and you can see how starkly different Islamic countries see Islam compared to Muslims in the West.
I didn't know IZOD shirts still exist anywhere on the planet?
This thing is is the argument isn't for immigrants to have any say
They should not have any say they are foreigners. That's how it works in every other country in the world.
It's like calling Italians Luigi or Chinese person Wong Cheng or something. Context matters. He was arrested, handcuffed, seating in a police car, angry complaining how they are treating him...while they are letting every Luigi or Wong Chong to enter the country. It's mildly offensive, no big deal. But by the woke criteria it's like capital offence. So to a guy like Aladdin I would say that this "incident" happened practically yesterday. Tommy Robinson is active for more then 10 years. So Aladdin "knew" that Tommy was a horrible person long before this last "racist outburst". So I'd just ask for another example.
🌝Thanks for Shining the LIGHT on the darkness🌑
The issue was that Aladdin was being condescending and dismissive, bordering narcissism rather than supportive of others who are on the same side of the issues but have nuanced differences in their opinions.
imagine feeling offended when someone using the term ABDOOLL but here in my country actual politician were insulting non muslim from rival party as kafir harbi which is cannot be accepted as a country with multiple ethnicities and religions , respect for Haris Sultan and AA need to learn more from experience youtuber
Using that word is a slur. It's a milder form of using the N word. Sultan should learn of AA to become a decent human being and a better thinker.
@@northernlight8857 But is it a slur for Arabs, or Muslims? A slur for a very pathological religion, seems within the acceptable.
Whataboutism
@@northernlight8857A decent human being who ignores facts, and doesn’t have a clue about issues MORE important than misuse of language? Doesn’t admit to fault when attacking others dishonestly based on false information? Really? AA may mean well but clearly lacks judgement and maturity and does not have a good grasp of what the most important issues are, which leaves him vulnerable to BS narratives.
Thank for this guys
Thats hw TR speaks not racist , can TR knows everyone's name ...he is telling the UK pple what is going on , with muslim pple in UK.
Little Aladdin is hilariously childish on how he behaves.
And all the drama involving him, abusing trusts from his members, especially the ex Muslim women, who actually trust him, how he in a way grooms them.
Slandering any ex Muslim who disagrees with him, and acts big and tough, but avoids actually having any form of confrontation with people
I think Peter Boghossian would be the best person to talk with AA as Peter is good at going at it systematically with someone who can't think straight. Anyone wanting to learn the method, you could read A Manual for Creating Atheists, then you may apply the method on yourself in private.
I think we have to face the fact that sometimes people we might not like, say things that are true and that we support. And sometimes people we like and respect say things that are utter nonsense and we condemn.
So if you agree with something that someone horrible says, you often get associated with everything that person stands for.
Thats just how it is.
TOUGH!
#iamtommy
Doxing a mask wearing apostate is much worse than name calling.
Who doxed who, when and how?
Apparently, it was more or less "He's in North America".
@@levantics It was a furious statement along the lines of "that guy can now live freely in "city name" and even remove mask if he wans to because we have done this before and took flak, so new content creators will receive less attacks because of us" kind of thing, where city name was a city Harris heard somewhere that Aladin was in and thought it was a common knowledge, but it turned out it was a wrong city and a wrong state
@@milospavlovic7520 Thank you. I’m not surprised it was the opposite of what Prostate Aladdin said.
Don't you guys want to show other video evidences of Tommy too!!🤔
#iranrevolution
Remember, the word 'racist' has been redefined to include anyone who criticizes Islam. According to that definition then the masked man is correct. According to the Cairo Declaration of Human Rights (the Islamic revision of the Declaration of Human Rights) non-Muslims and all women do not qualify as 'human'. So accordingly they are 100% in favour of 'human' rights. The definition of 'terrorist' excludes jihadi Muslims, so of course they are 100% against 'terrorism'. 'Slander' is saying something a Muslim does not want known. So of course they are 100% against slander. When you see it you can't unsee it. This form of double-speak infuses their 'holy' book on every page.
First time I saw the word Abdools was used by a poster in reaction to some aggressive dawahgandists on Hyde Park”s Speakers Corner in London.
Same. I also found out that it's kinda valid in terms of spelling, not to mention that Muhammad did say all followers can only be Abdullah(slaves of Allah) as any other association with Allah is considered shirk(even though they kiss the black stone which they also associate with Allah)
Yeah Islam is a scriptural mess even when solely looking at the Quran and Hadith... The Tafsir and Tahri do nothing to help. No wonder why dawahgandists were scrambling when Yasir Qadhi admitted the Standard Islamic Narrative has holes.
@@demonking86420 what matters is the context the word is used in and the connotations.
You do know that Tommy has used the p word right
There’s something really cathartic about Armin’s breakdowns.
Love Harris sultan. Hes brilliant and intelligent and fully support him.
AA is off ended when he's called a secret Muslim, or hasn't left Islam. He says he was Muslim, didn't like the belief, and left, yet he can't believe that TR could be part of a group, disagree with the beliefs and leave. 🤔
On the contrary I am proudly islamophobic but regard myself as far centre because I am anti-tyrannical whether it's Nazism, islamofascist, Stalinist etc.
Aladdin does giving vibes of secret Muslim (especially mutawi/sharia police) pretending to be apostate...
This is what happens when you leave Islam and join the woke leftists
That is such a ignorant and strawmaning statement.
@@northernlight8857 I'm talking about apostate alladin
@@Zayli87 To me, Aladdin feels even MORE dishonest than that. I get the feeling he just USES those leftist talking points. I'd bet envy, jealousy and entitlement is what drives his "critiques".
@@levantics 100. He's salty because he's been chasing a demographic that doesn't exist.
@@Zayli87antiwhiteism is a disease.
ban the EDL
Be careful with that Aladdin "apostate" as he calls himself Why does he cover his face? Hmm I don't like that ,he is not to be trusted
I follow Harris sultan I like he because he speaks the truth
we must leave islam to save the word
I am thinking about your admonition not to say: they have left Islam but Islam has not left them. I have been feeling that there is some truth in that saying, and it would be normal, as our experiences really shape us, especially our early ones. But we can become aware and change. -When I see intelligent, grown men go at each other in this fashion I see what I see on some Muslim channels: scolding, taunting, scolding…in public! Goodness, they even get to beat their wives. To be honest, what I see lacking in the atheist ex-atheists who like to lash others without speaking with them in private directly first, is biblical principles. Firstly, there are the Ten Commandments: one of them is: do not speak false witness against your neighbor. Someone’s reputation is very important to him. Do Not defame people. It’s a horrible thing to do, almost like killing or theft. Also there is: don’t covet. If someone has a bigger house, a bigger audience, bigger muscles, a prettier wife…it does not matter. Your first relationship is with God and he gives you all good gifts in measure and time, as he chooses. Just do the right thing and don’t worry and be grateful. Then there also is Matthew 18, where the conflict resolution process in a community is laid out.
Please peolpe go easy on Aladdin, he seems like a very sensitive guy
Emotional damage!!
Yes or you will be locked up 😅
Aladdin is not ex muslim. He lying about that. He is just a grifter
This boy Alladin is just chasing clout so he can get views.