A Battered Seiko 5 Restoration: Power Tools Required!
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- In this exciting watch restoration project, we take on a seriously battered Seiko 5 that’s seen better days. With significant wear and tear, this timepiece needs more than just a gentle touch - it's time to bring out the power tools! Watch as we attempt to transform this old, worn-out watch into a stunning timepiece once again.
Join us for the full journey, from disassembly to the final polish. If you love seeing vintage watches brought back to life, this is one restoration you don't want to miss!
Seiko 6119-7103
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Adam, you under-sell yourself with the care and attention you put into every one of the watches you bring back to life. The video and sound quality is very professional and the commentary has clarity and humour. Please keep them coming.
Very kind of you to say, thank you.
Came for the skillful repair, stayed for the homemade lapping machine! I love the improvisation
Thank you very much. To my surprise it actually works quite well! I just have to make sure I go very slowly.
I'm humbled that you liked the video. Your channel is exceptionally well done in both your repair work and your videography. I appreciate you stopping by.
Great to see another ultra-high quality creator here! I found Adam from watching Marshal, I found Chris from watching Adam, I found Chronoglide from watching Chris, etc. etc. Excellent content all around!
It always amazes me how much beauty and precision are added to the parts of amzwatch's watch 99% of people will never see.
They really are incredible little machines. I agree.
"...and occasionally cause accidents..." You are a good man; your heart is in the right place!
Thank you.
I am still hoping that Adam will one day start working on watches for people. My Seiko 5 still needs a service and some repairs on the face plate. And I don't trust just anyone working on my stuff. but this guy knows what he is doing and it shows.
Thank you very much.
Hi George, I have a similar Seiko 7119 bought new in 1972 or 73. It had never been serviced and the day/ date pusher was getting a bit sticky. I bit the bullet and sent it back to Seiko UK for a service via a Seiko dealer a couple of years ago and it cost around £120. With modern lubes it may do another 50 years.
This is the first video I saw of yours, I do love watching watch service videos. Beautiful work and excellent explanations given. Also enjoyed the bits where you used the arrows to show why an error existed. Keep posting, subscribed at half length. Thank you!
Thank you very much!
The shot on impulse jewel 👍🏻Love this movement, good choose Adam 😍
Thank you very much.
Adam. Very enjoyable commentary to match the visual presentation. Watching you helps with my learning. Long way to go, but moving forward. Thank you
Much appreciated!
Hi Adam, another winner video. I served in the USAF late 60's to early 70's it seemed like everyone had a Seiko especially people who served in the far East. I have several watches but my Seikos get worm mostly. I still enjoy my first Seiko a 7005 date only with two tone blue dial. Your videos are entertaining and educational, I don't think I will ever try watch making but I so enjoy your work. I've been watching your channel for some time and now joined the club! Thanks again John K.
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I appreciate it very much, thank you John.
I did see a little bend on the original mainspring. Glad you replaced it. Great job!
That was the intent originally, but like I tend to do sometimes, I forgot I was actually recording a video for this watch and got caught up in the moment, thus forgetting to hit 'record' on the camera!
That is indeed a fantastic watch and you did a truly great job 👍. The Seiko of old was a great watch designer and maker.
Thanks a bunch. Vintage Seikos are great.
Tengo 68 años , cuando cumpli 15 años mi padre me regalo ese mismo modelo .Ese reloj aun lo tengo como nuevo , nunca se ira , yo me voy a ir el no .
Dang! Friday afternoon and I've already watched this weekends video! guess I'll go back in time and watch an older video with my coffee in the morning. Thanks for another great video. I love to see these old Seikos come back to life. Can't wait for you to stop working for the man and open your own shop for commision work (if in fact you do work for the man).
Haha, Thanks a bunch.
Another great video, Adam, and a lovely-looking watch well done! 👍
Many thanks!
great great job jewel the barrel of the main spring…you’re a true Maestro!
These stones are harder than the bushing Seiko put, and I like this way soooo much.
This is the reason I prefere SW200 instead 2824 or Miyota 9015 instead 2892
Thank you very much.
В этом году я стал обладателем наручных часов СЕЙКО 5 к которым у меня уже больше 20 лет лежал кем то частично разобранный механизм с автоподзаводом . Судя по его состоянию , детали не имели износа . В приобретённых часах изношен подшипник инерционного сектора автоподзавода и погнут мост анкерной вилки , эти детали я заменил . Раньше в том месте , где я живу, невозможно было достать на замену узел баланс-спираль к часам СЕЙКО , сейчас у меня есть такой в запасе . Из моих наблюдений , узлы баланс-спираль к наручным часам сделанные в Китае , более чувствительны к колебанию температур и дают большее отклонение точности хода , даже при точной регулировке . С таким случаем я встречался в часах Ориент и они до сих пор есть у меня .
Таких СЕЙКО , как на этом видео у меня ещё нет , но если вдруг встречу такие на распродаже по удобной для меня цене , обязательно куплю и восстановлю . Я понимаю , что такие вещи больше не делают и мне хочется сохранить таких часов столько , сколько удастся .
В годы моего детства и юности , часы СЕЙКО мне казались недостижимым чудом механического искусства .
Я согласен, что эти часы надо сохранить. Спасибо за просмотр видео и комментарий!
really enjoyable as always, and a great learning resource
Thanks a bunch.
Great job Adam, you do the best work that I have seen anyone do!
Wow, thanks!
@@WeekendWatchRepair you’re welcome!
Another superb job to watch, cheers Weekend
Much appreciated, thank you.
This might seem dumb but I’ve been watching this channel for over a year. I’ve become really interested in this hobby.
What exactly do jewels do? I did a little research online but never seem to come across a simple straight forward answer.
As a woodworker I love the hands on approach watch makers/restorers have. I enjoy hand cut dovetail work and this stuff is right up my alley
Their entire purpose is to reduce friction between the pivots of the wheel and the bridge or plate they are connected to. They are made of synthetic rubies, and as such are much harder than the stainless steel pivots. They are very smooth and will not wear out like a steel bushing would. They are just used to act as a bearing surface, and by their nature, since they are much harder than steel, are very effective at reducing friction, and allowing the watch to run more efficiently.
@@WeekendWatchRepair oh cool. I had a feeling it had to do with friction but wondered why they were always the same color. Thank you for the explanation.
@@dillon2753 They are man-made rubies, and can actually be produced in nearly any color. In older watches you'll find them occasionally with more of an amber color, and even clear.
Cannot believe this is the same watch. Two things at the end felt like we needed more after footage and timing. Love the videos.
I appreciate the feedback, thank you.
Nice work, like a pro. Great shot of the Arbor going in to place.
Thanks a bunch. The main camera had a much clearer picture, but I thought the microscope video from above showing the arbor tooth setting into place was a better visual. I'm glad you liked it.
Super! As a Seiko fan, I have to say you nailed it. Excellent job!
Gorgeous result. Another excellent video. Thanks!!!
Forgot to mention that I really appreciate the simplicity of the automatic works. Pretty ironic that being able to reduce a complex item into a simple one is one of the hardest things to do.
I completely agree. It's impressive how there were able to simplify it so much, and make it more efficient in the process.
You did a great job on the watch as always. Thanks Adam
I appreciate it very much. Thanks for the nice compliment.
Watched twice already,another great job, look forward to the Doxa👍🏻Just gets better & better.Love your work from down under😁
Much appreciated, thank you! I'm actually online right now trying to hunt down that part. Fingers crossed.
Adam, you make it all look so easy. Love the restoration and great footage. I agree with another commenter. You certainly have the skill to service watches, but as you said, perhaps not the time for now. One day!
It wasn't always a smooth process, and sometimes it still isn't. With these old Seiko's though, I'm quite comfortable with them.
Yep, it look good on that polish
That is a beautiful watch. Well done. I love to watch and learn.
Very nice. I think my dad had a similar watch when I was younger
Very cool
Adam you asked for feedback on end-shake / side-shake... I have no expertise in this (yet--still learning) but please continue to include it! Thanks for another amazing video!
Love a 6119, got one here never had the casback off, gold 7143 case, cleaned up and regulated runs at a couple seconds a day. Couldn't bring myself to touch it with a screwdriver, not a nick or scratch on that movement. Pretty sure these things can run forever. 😂 nice work Adam.❤❤
Thanks a bunch. It's uncommon to come across one that's untouched. You've got a gem there!
Just getting into watchmaking now, but two kids and a full-time job are stiff competition for my time 😅 Still, one of my first projects is my Seiko 5 7S26 that desperately needs a service! Nice to see how well these humble movements can come back to life 👍
That's part of the beauty of the hobby, is that you can do it here-and-there as time allows. Sometimes it'll be several days before I'm able to sit at my bench and do any work. Just remember to take photographs as your are disassembling your watch. The more the better!
Great video, Adam! Thanks! Now I finally know what those round countersink tools I bought are for! 😂😂😂
Haha, glad I could help!
Wow! I just finished a full restoration with the same Seiko but 7100 ( blue dial) and I bought it on eBay too 🙃. Very nice movement. Thanks for the video!
Awesome! Thanks a bunch.
Great video ! Bravo ❤
Thank you!
Been a while. Started to get a little worried. Good to see ya lol
Thanks.
1) Remember what Abraham Lincoln said - "don't believe everything you see on the internet". 2) My looks too stop traffic, accompanied by screams (of joy?) 3) I'll message you about tge Doxa in case I have spares. Great work as usual.
Haha! Thanks.
Nice job on the case work! Looks fantastic.
Thanks!
Seiko 5's are great!
Agreed
Dropping another request for information on sourcing parts for the jewel upgrade. It is so hard to trust what you search up on eBay or whatever without having a trusted source to vouch.
You are that trusted source.
I have a proof/proof black dial Bruce Lee that I want to tackle, but I want to have parts on hand before I get too far into it and lose momentum.
Side note/story time: just got off a cruise - our first one.
I brought 4 watches with me.
With there being time to kill and being from a rural area, I was in and out of the watch boutiques seeing new watches in person, and each watch that I brought on the cruise started conversations, but it didn’t really go anywhere. Those folks in the boutiques know very little about watches as it turns out, and certainly are not enthusiasts.
I say this because you are right: this Seiko 5 is more interesting and special than 95% of what they had on display.
$10-40K for something that is neither rare nor does it represent an innovation or an authentic expression of artistry.
I was disappointed I didn’t cross paths with any true watch lovers.
Anyway, nice work.
Look up eBay seller - Vintage Time AU - he probably has the best one's I've come across.
I love your channel.
I really appreciate it, thank you.
Great restoration, lovely looking watch
I appreciate it, thank you.
Beutiful & neat work.... Great 👍
Thanks a lot 😊
Sir, I am very much impressed with your nice work on wrist watches. Where are you from Sir?
I watched an Omega Constellation get a case restoration that took my breath away. I have never seen a watch case get that much attention. He even did laser welding to fill in dents on the case which he sanded down and it looked PERFECT! The attention to detail was amazing.
I wish I had that equipment, but I just do the best with what I have. That stuff is super expensive, but maybe one day!
That guy is in Germany and his channel is growing quickly as well. You should try to collaborate and build both your channels.
Very good looking watch.
Thanks, but it's mostly credit to Seiko! They designed a good one.
All Hail Marshall, OBVIOUSLY, but welcome Adam! You guys are nailing it, these videos are heaven :)
Thanks so much.
the first instinct is to go with the swiss vintage pieces... I'm glad you paid the rightful resect for the Seiko 5 series , an unreplaceable piece of the watch industry history.
Seiko is probably my favorite. Wear mine daily.
I wear vintage Seikos at least a few times a week. I just have so many watches at this point (Seiko and non-Seiko alike) that some don't get worn as often as they deserve.
Wow, I literally just found out about automatic only movements about 3 days ago. I was trying to wind a recently obtained Buren watch when I noticed no mechanical winding was occuring. I opened it expecting to see a Grand Prix movement but it had an ST 171 in it. I disassembled the dial side to get to the keyless works and saw that the clutch had no gears and there was no winding pinion. I had to confirm in some groups that this is normal. Learning things all the time.
Also I learned the hard way the size finger cots I needed. A numbing experience.
Yes, not uncommon to come across automatic only movements. It Seiko's with the 'Magic Lever' system, it's really nice because you only need to shake it for a few seconds to get it going, then just put the watch on and start your day. That system winds the watch very quickly. And yes, I know EXACTLY what you mean regarding finger cot sizes. I buy the largest size I can find now after going through the same thing.
I've got a Seiko 5 that was rebuilt in India, I've had it about 9 years. The original year of manufacture was 1975. It has an unusual face 1 to 12 on the inside and 13 to 24 on the outside, with a yellow background. It still keeps good time.
I ordered some tools from Ali to give this a try. Would have liked to have gotten top tier stuff but would like to at least try this out before committing around $1k to tools. Thank you for all the videos, they’re a big reason while I’m giving this a go. I’ve done a ton of work on cars so hoping some of that will translate over to watches 😅
That's great to hear, thank you. Like anything else, it takes practice and patience. I think you'll enjoy it.
Congrats, Adam… That watch absolutely glows! I didn't think it was possible to use a bench sander as a lapping machine but you've proved me wrong. Is that the original table for the sander? Another fantastic video, kudos! 😄
Thanks Mike. It is the original table on that sander. I wouldn't have thought it would work either, but after seeing how little run out there was on that vertical sanding wheel, I decided to give it a try and thus far have achieved acceptable results.
Hey Adam, it would very much cool to see a Benrus and/or tillot serviced :)
Noted.
Well done. I made the mistake of mentioning I mess with watches in assorted company. Wouldn't you know I got inundated with requests...
I said I would do watch batteries only. LOL.
Believe me, I know exactly how that goes. Last Thursday I went to have dinner with some friends of mine. One of them brought a cigar box with 3 quartz watches and a ladies Bulova mechanical, haha. I was too polite to turn them down, so I’ve since put batteries in all of the quartz watches and repaired the mechanical.
Great work Adam I can understand your position on not currently taking in commission work, I took in work for a while but found after a while it wasn’t as enjoyable as just being a capable hobbyist not to say I won’t take in payed work again but it would most likely be work from a previous customer or through word and mouth only. Regards from New Zealand 🇳🇿
Great job!
Thanks!
I love these old Seikos, and am massively impressed with your work. I own a 6119-8340 which I got off eBay for about $100 seven years ago. All it needed was a service, and it keeps time as well as my Rolexes. Not bad for something half a century old.
Those who know...know! Great watches indeed.
so happy to see a seiko 5
Awesome!
Tank you Sir
A great job , thanks.
Great job Adam, I picked up a Seiko 5 sport watch from garage sale. Plan to service it later sometime, date function not working correctly.
It'll be a fun project. Enjoy it!
nice show thank you Qswald
I’ve developed mixed feelings on always replacing the mainspring. I think it depends on the owner. I try to be ecologically conscious where it makes sense. There are obvious cases where a new one is the way to go. Thanks for sharing the numbers and experience regarding that!
Thanks.
Beauty Adam
Thank you.
Impressive
Thank you.
Hi Adam, I'd still like to see you manipulating the mainspring to flatten it out. Great vid again however 👍
Noted. Thank you.
So is it your eye sockets that stops the traffic?😂
Haha!
I really liked your process. Very methodical and gentle. When some piece is out of place causing a malfunction, I want to know why or how it got there. Usually just moving something back isn't fixing the underlying problem. You identified the reason for the overbanking. You changed the spring, which I thought had a kink in it,. Great job on upgrading those jewels, they were a bit worn. What I didn't see was how you addressed why the quick set jumper spring was off the day wheel. Did you do something off camera? Very enjoyable to watch you. Thanks for the content.
No, nothing was done off camera. That wheel was not sitting flush when I took the dial off, and under closer inspection, I found it was not sitting flush because it was sitting on top of the jumper rather than against it.
@@WeekendWatchRepair Yes, that's how it presented when being dissembled. My question was why was it on the jumper instead of correctly positioned. There must have been play between the dial and the jumper, or one of the teeth on the jumper wheel is bent. I didn't get a good look at the jumper wheel. My guess was a gap between the dial and the jumper wheel, and then some kind of shock knocked it on top.
Yeh, loupes don't fit in my eye sockets either, LOL.
Glad I'm not the only one.
I’m liking your OCD on the hair, Spring
Take that little sander, put a sewing machine motor on it that way you can use the foot pedal
Looks like this watch had a tough landing without the landing gear
Haha!
I think my Seco five is a 1974 looks just like that one with a blue dial and I need a new crystal
Great vid. I heard what you said but if you ever want to service a vintage Rolex OP date let me know. 😉PS I live in Texas so can’t be too far from you. I also have a seiko Lord Matic that I have that needs work bad and you can keep it if you want after the video.
If things change I'll let you know. Thank you very much for the offer.
Is a pegwood the size of a toothpick, or larger, more like a pencil?
I use two different sizes - 4mm and 2mm depending on the application.
AMAZING! I have one of these. My parents gave me a green faced one for my HS graduation way back in 1973. I recently found it in a drawer. It seems to run fine but the crystal needs replacing and the case could use some love. I understand you're not doing this outside of your family & friends, but could you give me some idea of what it might cost me to spruce up the old girl? Thanks
I honestly don't know what it would cost. I've always done my own, and don't really know what that type of work usually would cost from a watchmaker.
Nice job on the Seiko 5. Just have a question I have a Seiko 6218-3911 and would like to put a sapphire glass in it. My watch guy says no can do. But I question that. Is this something you have done or think can be done if so how do I go about getting the right part thanks
I'm not familiar with that particular case. It would be something that I'd have to see and then research if a sapphire crystal is made to fit it. Unfortunately I cannot tell you if one is available from memory.
Enjoying the watch repair videos. No lube is ever used on the gear teeth?
I found a 3D printer file for the barrel closing tool and they printed it for me for a $1.50
I've always thought that a couple of tools would be pretty easy to print. I've been meaning to do a run of hand pushers as well at some point 🤔
That's awesome!
Hi Adam thank you for your great video showing the jewel upgrade. I need your advise, I was working on a NH35 and lost the c clip part number 7 0836 002
Reduction wheel holder under the paw lever. Can you tell me where I could find a replacement part ? Rgds
I'm not finding that part individually, but worse case scenario you could buy a donor movement off of eBay. I know that's not ideal, but if you could find a non-functioning movement you could scavenge that part from, it might be possible to get it for not too much money. Just an idea.
Excellent!! Always enjoy your videos!! I have a small collection of Seiko automatics (Mostly newer Seiko 5's.). They could all stand to be regulated. Am thinking of learning to do this myself. I have some rudimentary tools and am looking to pick up a time grapher and a couple of junk movements to practice on. Can you give me some recommendations on anything else that I may need? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!
For regulation, you'll need a tool to remove the case backs, and magnification so you can clearly see the balance up close when making your adjustments. I'd also suggest getting a silicon grease applicating pad so you can re-grease your case back gaskets when needed for reassembly.
@WeekendWatchRepair Thanks! I ordered the time grapher , a magnifier and one of those case back remover balls. Will have to order the o ring greaser. I also still have to find a couple of movements to practice on. Thanks again!
@@whitneyallison3717 Glad to help. Enjoy the process!
I get Wristwatch Revival vibes! Are you sure you aren’t related to Marshall?!
I hear that a lot. Not related in the least. I'm not trying to emulate his channel, but apparently my voice sounds like his (so I'm told).
You’re doing a great job! I love the content brother!
Where are you? Source parts in the US? Like people in the UK though use cousins do we have suppliers for new old stock and stuff?
Hi Adam. Fantastic video as always. Just wondering where you sourced the jewel upgrades for the barrel?
This movement uses the same size barrel arbor jewels as the 6139 chronographs, so I had some in stock already.
@@WeekendWatchRepair cheers Adam. 👍
Very nice restoration. May I know how your "belt grinder" machine is called? Im struggling with the same problem, of not being able to get myself a lapping machine. But you machine seems to be a very nice alternative!!
Thanks. It is a vertical disc sander. Mine is a Ryobi model: BD4601G
@@WeekendWatchRepair Fantastic. Thanks for the info. For a machine in this price range it seems to run pretty smooth. Did you have to to any adjustments to the circuit in order to make it run slower?
@@GermanWatchmakingChannel I'm running it through a voltage regulator. It is still much faster than a lapping machine, so I try to compensate by using a very fine grit and much lighter pressure.
I enjoy your watch repair videos. What mainspring winder do you use to rewind the mainspring.
This watch used a Bergeon #7 left handed winder.
Thanks for this super interesting and high quality content. Just curious: how many hours do you estimate this Seiko project took you in total?
I do it in short sessions over several days, but I also work pretty slowly. I’d guess around 10 or 12 our hands on work on the watch. I’ve never really timed it so it could be more. Probably not less though!
Am I seeing things or the 4th wheel jewel is loose and spinning while you were oiling it at 42:06 ?
The jewel was not spinning. It just looked that way due to the the wheel turning inside the jewel.
Where did you find those jewels to upgrade the bridges? Thanks
That movement uses the same size barrel arbor jewels as a 6139 chronograph, so I already had some in stock.
@WeekendWatchRepair I checked ebay for 6139 bridges and none have jewels
Great job with those jewel upgrades. Are those from well known Australian guy?
Adam what do you use for your mainspring winder. I am Learning a lot from you and wristwatch Revival
I've piece together individual sized of the Bergeon winders and arbors. The kit is far too expensive for my taste, and I'd likely never use some of the sizes that I'd be paying for in that kit. I've got 4 or 5 different sizes that do 90% of the watches I work on. I've also got a very old vintage winder that I use on rare occasions (see the Bell-Matic video - alarm spring installation).
Enjoyed watching. Love my basic Seiko5 - 7009 3151 which I was given as a present some 40+ years ago
They are really great watches, and will run for decades.
Adam If you don’t use eye loupes what do You use ?
A mircoscope.
Adam, can you give me the old tools which are of no use to you anymore? I watch and learn from most of the videos and am keen to repair more Watches... I will pay the amount for courier charges once you let me know if you could give the old tools and the charge for delivery to India. Thank you.
I would have bought the original crystal
link for seiko crystals? thanks
I don't think I'm supposed to put links in the description. I've heard RUclips frowns on that. I sourced the replacement crystal for this watch from Jules Borel.
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that's one dirty watch.......
Haha, yes it was.
Hey Adam,
I know this is a hobby and you have a day job that you take it very seriously but please consider accepting repair or restoration jobs from your audience. I know you have concerns about that accepting it a big responsibility, living in tornado area you said if I am not wrong but man I met people (so many) doing this as their “professional” occupation and they cannot even come close to you. Let me put it this way, they name themselves pros but even place a winding pinion wrong, dont have a clue about the oils, touching the dials with their bare hands, holding the batteries with steel tweezers and the list goes on and on and in the end charge loads of money for their poor service. Here in Ottawa, I only manage to find 1 decent watchmaker and that gentleman is always busy, not even have time to accept a customer to talk which I understand. Just sayin…
Love your channel! Thanks for the knowledge, man🫡
I appreciate that!