Jim Cornette Reviews Wardlow vs. Powerhouse Hobbs (TNT Title - No DQ) on AEW Dynamite
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- Опубликовано: 14 мар 2023
- From Episode 472 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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Imagine if Godzilla was fighting King Kong and StayPuft Marshmallow Man did a run in. That’s basically what happened.
It’s amazing how Jim just spit out the program in 3 minutes and it’s incredible. Even more amazing is TK not listening to this and just doing exactly what Jim says
I was almost out of my seat during that set of three spine busters! That would have been brilliant.
It's crazy that Jim is giving FREE GAME to Tony Khan ... he's not giving him equity in AEW, a consulting fee, an annual salary with bonuses...NOTHING.
And STILL....he doesn't take advantage. 🤦🏽♂️
@@christopheramaro333 thats how you can tell how stupid and egotistical tony khan is. thinking he knows what hes doing. probably a lame guy to be around, seems he would just non-stop think he always knows everything even if he has 0 experience with the topics at hand. maybe this is why he gets along with The Bucks and Omega so much - theyre all just a bunch of egotistical know-it-alls, who are all completely clueless about what theyre doing but think they know Absolutely Everything there is to know.
Tony Khan's been booking this show since 1995! What does he need jim cornettes advice for?? 😂
TK is too proud to admit he needs help and couldn’t stand it if he was seen to be using Jim's ideas
As soon as I saw QT Marshall I let out a HUGE groan.
I did the same thing my dude. Hobbs looks fucking weak the minute that idiot walked out.
That’s the natural reaction to seeing QT
One of the worst booking decisions I’ve seen in recent memory
Wardlow's Booking since the MJF Feud has been the drizzling shits.
When they followed up that feud with that phony People's Court program was one of those "Ah-ha!' moments for me when I realized how Tony really is doing this himself and he really has no idea what he's doing.
If wardlow been booked like orange cassidy he would be ready for a money making feud with MJF.
@@James-if3kc tony khan would book that 😅
@@James-if3kc I'd have Hobbs mow Orange Man down in a build up to Wardlow. Proper Monster heel
@@Leaddevo only a heel in the eyes of tony khan , he would be devastated 😅
“…and they started the match in the parking garage” 😂😂😂
Getting screwed over by QT Marshall of all people must surely be the final nail in the coffin of Wardlow’s AEW career
Getting helped by QT might be the final nail in Hobbs' AEW career too lol
Couldn’t Agree More Fella
News flash ...the 3 of you AEW hating morons here in the comments (Godot, Eric Smith, Constable Kennedy) thinking Wardlow and/or Hobbs career in AEW is over, literally means absolutely nothing. 3 know nothing neckbeard cucknette fans who dont even watch the show dont matter in the grand scheme and neither mans career is over or hurt.
They continued an already built storyline with another wrinkle on it. AEW fans are still behind both men, believe that.
AEW needs a booker who isn't Tony Khan or the EVP's or Jericho
@@ericsmith3936 bro I was legit confused why he even out there Taz explain they had a history and I was like when? Lmaoo
They spent weeks/months building an image of a guy that’s a dangerous loner, raised on the streets with a blood soaked past. And they bring out QT Marshall…a man who had the gimmick of eating an apple.
He spent a fortune on the bunny too. Great gimmick
This
Man I was so excited when Hobbs started cutting those promos. Talking about watching his uncle OD when he was 6yrs old. Holy crap, this dude is crazy and then he started coming out with a literal book haha and I was like ok I can look past this. Kinda weird that he's carrying a Bible but whatever but now this QT shit is just too much.
@@James-if3kc Carlito was actually over at one point. I'd compare this to Brock vs Bobby Lashley and R Truth interferes to help Brock lol
@ericsmith3936 that’s a grave insult to R-Truth pal.
Jim explaining the psychology and booking of two opposing forces mirroring each other's journey's was great. Similar to Cena vs Batista at Mania, to a far lesser extent... Bron Breakker and Carmelo Hayes on NXT
It is great, but the sad thing is it’s not even genius insight, he’s just going over what used to be the 101. I hope the talent takes it on board.
@@Harry-sc1xk true. I love the physicality and athleticism of modern wrestling but I wish guys valued kayfabe more and tried to make things more logical in the ring. If one 250lb guy punches another 250lb guy, he needs to sell that shit hard cause if it was a shoot he'd probably get ko'd.
Its insane how theyve F'd this up. Why cant they have just gone back and watched how Batista or Goldberg were booked from start to finish and copy that.
@@somgandachonco7278 Agreed
@@Charzhino Exactly seeing as Tony Khan loves to Copy Jabroni type Angles from the Past ….
I really hope they all go to WWE. Wardlow and Hobbs. Could you imagine what HHH would do with them. Just look at how he’s handling Gunther and Breakker
Hobbs vs Bobby Lashley is definitely a good feud to have in future
Jade would be a star in WWE under the right guidance.
Wardlow after MJF should have been so easy to book. Wardlow is good when he has a slapable, Dickish heel that everyone wants to see him destroy - I give you, Sammy Guevara, TNT champion.
That'd be a decent feud. Sammy's not doing shit anyway
Wouldn't even mind Christian at this point. He could still use the "your dad's dead lol" promos
When he was with MJF he got over without even having to speak. He looked cool as hell in the suits, just standing there with that look on his face.
If Tony had listened to just the half of all the advices Jim has given him for free on this program, AEW would be a quite bearable thing now.
Instead of hiring corny as his official booker, that corny said he didnt want to do, dang... he could still be a private consultant giving him tips. Lol - even then tk actually just needs to tune in to these regular podcasts.
Let’s face it, Tony wouldn’t be able to understand the advice Jim has been giving. He would either misinterpret it or forget about the context.
There's another legendary Jim that works for him who could offer the same advice but he ignores him too.
I feel like Jim Cornette’s biggest strength now would be the development of up-and-coming stars. If somehow he could have something akin to OVW, but without dumbasses saying “it’s low budget” when it’s a wrestling school, wrestling as a whole would be much better off. But alas, people nowadays don’t know what true professional wrestling (and the art of same) even is.
If Jim Cornette knew what he was talking about he wouldn't have gotten fired from every company he has been in.
When QT Marshall showed up, the first thing I thought was “he still works for AEW?”
a guy with a name "QT" when he looks like a mark virgin , is only something you would see in AEW
THESE are my favorite Corny vids. His breakdowns of what happened in a match versus what could or should have happened are gold. His passion for great professional wrestling still exists, and these vids are where we get to hear it.
I think a certain top WWE babyface may need to call Wardlow or vice versa.
The TNT Title means as much as the belt that holds up my old pair of work jeans …
Tnt title is becoming the 24/7 title. It keeps changing hands.
If reigns are measured in Days rather than Months, you're almost certainly doing it wrong.
I believe that Tony isn't interested in developing AEW talent; Tony is interested in snorting coke. Tony isn't interested in having angles that make sense and take a confrontation from point A one week, to point B another week, to point C. . . etc. Tony is interested in snorting coke. Tony doesn't care about the TV ratings for AEW, Tony cares about snorting coke. . . etc, etc, ad infinitum.
Don't forget the obvious meth use
Or Adderall. They are both basically the same
Best thing they can do now is when Qt does his Qtv schick tonight, Hobbs just smacks seven bells of s*** outta Qt and develop Hobbs, the badass man from the streets path they were going down originally.
The great thing about Cornette is not only does he tell you why something is complete shit. But when he sees talent he gives praise and then tells you how to book them properly, and 8/10 times it is way better booking and you can picture it making the product better.
That swanton spot, powerbomb on the floor, and the finish up the ramp in this match took place in the span of two minutes. No selling at its finest.
I'm sat here listening to Jim and I was getting hyped for his version of this feud but then reality hit when you remember the ACTUAL "feud" 😔
16 minutes in and Jim just called the greatest Spine Buster spot I've ever heard, and now I'm triply sick this isn't what actually happened.
@GibbShift thought it was just me I was imagining those spinebusters also
@GibbShift thought it was just me I was imagining those spinebusters also
@GibbShift thought it was just me I was imagining those spinebusters also
Take a shot anytime he says Tony doesn't know how to book.
That TNT Championship belt is like the kiss of death from a Mafia Don... Look what it's done for the careers of Miro, Scorpio Sky, Samoa Joe, and now Wardlow. I can only hope that this does not kill Hobbs career in AEW.
man, I completely forgot about Scorpio Sky having the belt.
it will, as hobbs is now with qt and qtv
And Brodie Lee ... #darkhumor
@@thunderkitty73 what hilarious Cody Rhodes was also tnt champ I see why he left
It might be messed up to say, but Brodie Lee died, too. That belt is cursed.
If I was Wardlow I would apologize to MJF and ask him to take me back as bodyguard.
I love powerhouse hobbs. The name, the look, everything has a cool bad ass feel. Tony makes it hard to like him because of the booking.
Tony hates his larger-than-life wrestlers because he can't relate to them as a skinny nerd.
Narcissists can only relate to people who physically resemble them.
@@budwyzer77 I don't think you are even close to get an excuse for not considering his critics with that far-from-facts reality. He always praises guys for a beast look but also talks about (not only in-ring-)work and promo abilities and what you should do (not) if you (don't) have them.
@@budwyzer77 ahhhh tonyhausen 😂😂😂
@@budwyzer77 exactly nerds can’t relate to athletes
@@kentakobashi1197 English please.
This wasn't just bad this was a complete character assassination of Wardlow. At this point, he should just ask for his release and sit at home like Miro and Andrade. You can't come back from this in any way and look good. Plus using a "car breaking" to make him look even more like a loser before the match. This also doesn't help Hobbs at all. Not only could Hobbs not win on his own, but he also had to get help from QT Fucking Marshall one of the biggest jobbers in the company. Plus he has to be put into another pointless faction. This is without even talking about how little value the TNT Hot-Potato has now. I just feel bad for Wardlow he should have been pushed to the moon after beating MJF. But once he nearly lost to Pockets the writing was on the wall of what Tony really feels about him.
AEW doesn't seem to know what to do with big wrestlers. They all just get treated poorly. If the wrestler is the size of Riho, AEW loves them and they get forced on the audience every week (Garcia, Yuta, etc). If the wrestler is the size of Hobbs... you've seen what happens. Miro, Hobbs, Joe, Wardlow, Archer, etc... they all get the same fate in AEW.
The title legit went from a belt with some type of prestige and a sign that the company sees something in you into something someone had sex on to something of value again to something that gets passed around like blunt.
@@gogomarioloshi 😂😂😂 yes 🙌
Wardlow's momentum was killed when MJF showed up on TV acting fine the day after he was carried out on a stretcher.
Wardlow is 35 years old already, he's only 6 and a half years younger than Samoa Joe. I think the bloom is off the rose unfortunately. Rip Wardlow
Pretty sure Batista was close to that age when he got his big push. Worked out pretty well for him
@@ericsmith3936 Batista was much closer to a finished project than wardlow and was 6ft 6 300lbs compared with a 6ft 2 wardlow whose closer to 250
@@ericsmith3936 Batista had the luxury of being mentored by HHH and Ric Flair, not to mention Batista was wiling to learn from them. I'm not insinuating that Wardlow is unwilling to learn, but the odds are extremely against him being as big as Batista at this point since there is no HHH or Ric Flair in AEW.
Love how Cornette analyzed how to use these two monsters. I hope someone's listening but that's not likely :)
Jim literally jus built this match how it should have went in less than 10 minutes 🤦🏾♂️ easily at that. Im jus so mad at how all my favorites in aew are booked lol 💯 last comment on dis
Tony’s booking killed the participants meanwhile Travis Heckel just killing it period with this thumbnail art 😂😂😂
I immediately thought the match started backwards. If it's a falls count anywhere match, why would you start in the back and end in the ring rather than the other way around? I'd kill for a regular match that makes sense in that company
Started as a fall count anywhere match and ended as a last man standing, how does that work. 🤣
Started as a fall count anywhere match and ended as a last man standing, how does that work. 🤣
Exactly! Why would the match start in the back because they started fighting eachother? That shit drove me crazy
This is one of the most thoughtful and straight-forward pleas I’ve heard yet from Jim and Brian about Tony Khan and AEW booking/storylines. That’s saying something.
Ok seriously, Jim went with Jerry Lynn but how do they have a "someone to teach the big men how to be big men" problem when they have Paul Wight and Mark Henry?!
He probably forgot about them. Is Mark still there?
@@jason.waterfalls33 he should be
Listening to Jim build a blank slate program on the fly is more entertaining than what we saw
The saddest thing about watching Dynamite is how good it *could* be
Master class in booking psychology
Wardlow should be on top of the roster. They really had something with him, but they screwed it up.
AEW should consult with Jim Cornette💯💯💯
He should at the very least be a remote advisor, writer, booker of AEW
Fwiw they *tried* to.
I don't think there's enough Wendy's for the breakdown Corny would've had if he'd ended up working with this company.
@@MoxyOh it would be much worse.. headline would read "man beat dozen people to death with a blunt object while laughing and singing about cheezeburgers"
@@battlemole8233 lol
Jim needs to be the booker
Who on Earth was AEW trying to get over? Obviously not Wardlow... he literally got buried in polystyrene. Obviously not Hobbs... he needed QT the geek to win the match. So I think Jim was onto something... It was the furniture! But they don't need to go over because the crowd already cheers for them in every match!
@Italian Milty FriedMan I have seen Wardlow wrestle live before he was in AEW, and he is good. I just don't think he was ready to wrestle for a larger company. Yes, he is green, but that hasn't stopped many who wrestled before him who were just as green and became great stars later on. AEW just does not let you get your reps in since their roster is too dang big and not enough time to let all their talent get the time needed to improve.
They are not trying to get anybody over; that is why they are putting people who have not drawn a dime or a rating on their main show lately, even though they have been hiding on Darkk and Elevation. As Last said, Tony Khan cannot book and is equally bad at assessing and using talent.
Let's be real. Jim's version for booking this much is 100x better than the actual booking of this match.
MJF, hobbs, wardlow, darby, starks, brian pillman jr, malakai black, i saw as all potential superstars wen i started watching aew late 2021. Bruh almost 2 years later MJF is the only solidified main eventers with everyone else either upper mid or mid card guys. In Brin pillmans case he barely gets a win on dark.
To be fair, everyone you said is a jobber and are where they deserve to be. I’d disagree with calling mjf a “solidified main eventer” if this was any other promotion but sure a vanilla midget who is the lowest drawing champion in the companies history is a main eventer in the b leagues.
A veteran booker could've got something out of those guys. AEW has shown me how important booking is with any wrestler. A poor booker could make Randy Savage look bad
@@willdallas53not a fan of MJF? Starks a jobber, Malakai got trios belts (even doe the whole trio shit suck) , Darby solid mid to upper mid card. Brian Pillman Jr only one that i seen be completely buried not even fetured on Dynamite or Rampage anymore
@@tonyruby4467Definitely 💯 i would even throw jungle boy in there i for sure thought he would be at least a top babyface challenging for world championship by now or at least holding tnt belt for a while
@@willdallas53 A good booker could make a Star outta Hobbs Wardlow Starks now in the case of Darby and Pillman jr they could of been solid mid carders
I saw the end of this. Literally buried both. The announcers were also ridiculous.
Excalibur is the worst
@@ronniejdio9411 I'd love for Taz to just rip off his mask on air
Matt Striker seems like a legend compared to the AEW commentary team minus JR.
@Copperstone the whole announcement team.tbh. Henry and big show included. Just awful. Tony and Taz aren't bad but those three have 0 chemistry and I think it's mostly Excalibur who messes it up
Tony Khan uses manatees to book AEW. Two manatees grab balls depicting wrestlers, stipulations, interferences and results, and place them in three holes - one labelled Dynamite, one labelled Rampage and one labelled PPV. The balls get jumbled up in a pachinko to decide the order.
Booker of the Year 😂
Imagine how much money Jim would make if he had wanted to host private tutoring lessons at a fraction of TK’s blow money, just to help some of these guys not be as green as they are
Second only to Tony's dealer
Seemed it went from No DQ/Falls Count Anywhere match to a Last Man Standing match half way through the match.
RIP Hobbs career. QT will drag him into abyss of irrelevance
Sad but true
WWE fans do this too. Every time I hear "We want tables" chant I hate the fans. Shut up with the tables!
Chant *WE WANT WRESTLING!*
I hate the stupid tables chant too.
Someone needs to hire Jim for a virtual wrestling consultation job
Tony probably already has a virtual consultant - the Smackdown 2 season mode.
Tony has too many "toys" in his Jakks Pacific Action Figure Federation and he wants to get them all over without realizing it can't be done all at one time.
Bravo Jim, honestly his mind and how explains the little things and makes it seem so easy to everybody, truly one of the best if not best wrestling mind on earth… this is video that shows why this podcast is so popular… awesome guys👏👏👏👍
I understand the Wardlow being robbed & having to do a street fight, but let's look back, Team Taz had a stacked stable that could get over, The Pinnacle w/ Shawn Spears, was a fresh & legit looking stable that got over, both Wardlow & Hobbs had high potential of getting over in their respected groups, how in the world did we end up here & Wardlow has a 5 day reign, & Hobbs got assistance from QT Marshall?!? Seriously?????
This is how it ends I'm afraid.
Can’t wait to see Wardlow in NXT
AEW's booking is like a rollercoaster with the steepest climbs and dips. I don't understand how TK comes to his decisions. It's his party, but I don't know what he is thinking sometimes.
Wardlow suffered the wrath of the Deadly Crash pad.
The problem is everyone wants to get every one of their signature moves in nowadays rather than work to have a match where you sell each others moves.
Plus nobody has any patience to work am extended programme and book it logically like they used to do
Honestly, the best part of this channel is just listening to Jim fantasy book wrestling so easily. His description of how this match and its spots should have gone down is incredible.
But Tony Khan has columns! And rows! And sometimes he flips them around!
Just goes to show unless you’re already an established star like Punk,Danielson etc or Tony’s best friend EVPs… he has NO IDEA how to book the other people on the roster
Danielson isn't booked all that great either.
@@thunderkitty73 you’re right but he was initially when he came in cause he was established
Tony has a controller backstage while matches go on so he can play with the best graphics
hearing Jim's idea is better than watching any wrestling nowadays
It's a shame what TK has done with Wardlow, he should be feuding with MJF.
AEW matches look like the ones I had while playing WWF NO Mercy with the cheat codes.
Fall count anywhere match then turn into last man standing match? Tony really snot some coke 🤣🤣🤣🤣
TK should pay Cornette to work from home...lol
It makes me feel like Hobbs just threw every piece of advice that CM Punk gave him and just went "fuck it!"
Jim illustrated my, and a lot of people’s, sentiments about the booking of Wardlow better than any of us could and he and Brian illustrated why ending the match with a QT interference angle is bad for all parties involved. Tony Khan’s bad booking habits keep getting rewarded and he learns nothing from them because Meltzer awards him with “Booker of the year” all the time and people inflate his ego by telling him the show kicks ass. If the show works, it’s in spite of Tony’s booking.
Hate to defend Meltzer, but at this point even he knows how bad AEW is. He basically wrote, that Tony didn't deserve "Booker of the Year" and that his voters were wrong.
@@johndoese7en408 the overall point still stands though. If he keeps getting these awards and praise for his booking despite the state his company’s creative is in, he’s never gonna change his ways and will only get worse.
@@Superman5000The Yeah, that's true, there is no denying that.
In many ways, Meltzer helped create the way his fanbase feels. He's has a lot of fault on why wrestling has gone away from being an active struggle to flippy spot fests.
@Dave he shouldn't even be in the pool of nominees for the award. There's no reason hhh shouldn't have won the award except that Dave purposefully didn't include him
24 min my god, I knew jim would have thoughts, but I had no idea! So excited😄
I BEEN WAITING ALL WEEK FOR THIS!
This speaks more to how good MJF is than anything else. Wardlow is just another meat puppet without him.
Then every good wrestler with bad booking is a meat puppet.
They mostly lack either the ability to convince Tony to change their awful booking or they lack people teaching them how the business should work.
Mjf did his homework, talked to experienced people and watched good matches and interviews.
Not everyone has that drive or that intelligence.
The bad booking and lack of good advice however is the greatest problem since Jim proved how its possible to develope good wrestlers even if they lack MJFs intelligence.
I'm interested to hear Jim and Brian's thoughts on QT saying that he's been presenting himself as a Tony Soprano-based entity this whole time. Turns out those bowling shirts weren't some kind of heavy set Charlie Harper thing. In what way was his presentation on this show supposed to tell us ANY of that? I'm genuinely curious about that.
To notice that, one would have had to watch and care about QT Marshall. Non starter.
Can't stand that it didn't end at the swanton bomb into the table
These two are guys I would have loved for Jim to have gotten his hands on in OVW back in the day.
Jim is the ultimate Booker the psychology the matches the rivalry the insight the promo. Tony is getting free game and refuses to use this…! Crazy right
AEW constantly get people over (unintentionally) and then pair them with someone irrelevant to remove any sort of positive push… it’s happened to wardlow, starks, FTR, hobbs and so many others in the past year…. Why even bother to watch anymore
Add in Acclaimed to that list
Cornette showing his brilliance giving away free game...you're welcome
been waiting all week to hear this
This is one of those cases where going back in time would be necessary. That's some great booking I just listened to. I wish Jim Cornette would've booked them if he had the opportunity. Fans would've been wanting to see a Wardlow vs. Powerhouse Hobbs match after months of no encounter whatsoever. That would've been sick.
TK is so in love w WCW (Bischoff's regime)..his answer is to getting rookies over is to put belts on them..he is Goldberg-ing Jade,Wardlow,The Acclaimed,The Gunns,etc..imagine if they had Hobbs beat Darby for the TNT title.Imo Hobbs and Wardlow should not have had a match until they were in the World Title picture.
Once again Wardlow is buried before he even started 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻
They need to just pay Jim a boatload of money to just freestyle programs with the roster once a year.
He won’t have to leave the house and AEW can have some solid ideas.
Don’t forget about Orange Cassidy & Wardlow competitive match.
I would’ve kept Hobbs w/Tazz.
Jim I have approved your hiring for AEW!
I've said this a thousand times if I was TK I'm going to get Jim no matter what I would give him anything he wants and all creative control
The Young Cucks would never allow it
Is Tony Khan smoking crackk
i almost wish i had the ability to make a wrestling booking simulator based off Jim Cornette's expertise. Almost, because I'd probably end up just has exasperated and frustrated as he is over these calls, lol.
All these things would be great advice for Omos also. He's got the look and size but Idk who they got training the big men
Once again Jim shows why he is still the best mind in the business
I believe Tony listened and realize that he had something special with Hobbs and wardlow but all he knows is to match his action figures together with no buildup or story. I really hope that both of these men's contracts come up within the next year and a half. As much as people hate Vince McMahon the WWE system would work wonders for these two guys.
I love Jim's ability to put together a top level programme, seemingly off top of his head, better than ANY of today's product.
Wardlow was one of the few things I enjoyed about AEW 6-8 months ago. He’s big, in great shape, has natural charisma & didn’t look like a mudshow vanilla midget. Then they killed him post MJF feud. Doesn’t even get a quarter of the pop from the marks in the crowd he got then 🤦🏽♂️
To be fair I loved the FEELING of the street fight because it FELT like the Attitude Era. However the booking was as I stated in my other comments.
Guys like Hobbs would benefit so much from an NXT system. WWE does it right when it comes to developing talent.
They could of had these two be what Brock vs Bobby should of been. Both of these guys should be booked as monsters.
QT does not need to be on TV. I hope Wardlow and Hobbs go to wwe.
Especially Hobbs, he's everything I want Big E to be
Tony khan is booker of the year for a reason. He managed to remove any remote star power from everyone to the point where everyone in that company is on the same level. They are all jobbers now. Thats no easy task.
This is why Jim's not out of touch. He's just plain and simply telling it the way it is!!!
If AEW had Jim as a agent , hell if they had Brian as a agent , the programs would be so much better.