This is a breath of fresh air and I think I'm gonna enjoy it more since I'm not locked in a small space, battling the same mobs over and over again, hoping for some good stats on my drops. Especially when this system isn't locked to any "stamina" bullshit, I can entirely avoid some FOMOs about stamina capping. It also make exploration more fun beside just collecting materials or finding treasure chest.
@@junioraffokpon2408In comparison to other gacha game combat, is he really? And if he isn’t, name one on par and saying pgr is dumb cuz the same company made this game lol.
Man I just started watching your Wuthering Waves content and I'm very excited about this game. As someone that's played genshin and TOF from release on both and as someone that's long quit them. This game so far from what I've seen has fixed alot of the issues I've had with the other to games. I really wish I knew about it sooner to play the CBT2.
The idea of the echo system is amazing but 1. Tacet fields for echo's are basically a scam for waveplates. 2. There is too much rng for how long it takes to farm. Ive been farming for havoc main stats for multiple days now without a single drop
Thanks man, I was able to jot down everything.(reply if you want me to type it down in my reply) I agree. I think there's too many stats that are going on, I hope they remove some of it. I wouldn't even mind if they remove all those individual elemental damage and just add one "elemental damage" which basically works for all types. If they can't do that, then maybe they could just make sub stat percentages fixed. Like no more 8.5% crit dmg in one echo, and then 15.1% crit dmg on another, and make it so higher rarity just gives higher sub stat. On top of that, I hope they add something similar to a usb from pgr where it basically allows you to pick your own stat.(If they can't do anything else above, then I hope this one will happen at least) These rng gears are just too much of a pain in the head, I'm coping too much.
my opinion for wasted echo is if they add salvage which gives below 10% exp if they are lvl 0, atleast this would prevent infinite farming to some degree and just have some value or so
I'm curious about one thing which I can't seem to find anywhere. When farming echoes in someone else's world, can both of you claim the echo? Or only one of you?
I've never played Genshin so I dunno much about their similarities but I think I would be happy farming monsters as artifacts/relics substitute. I wonder if this would be on mobile because I would gladly try it instead of Genshin.
lol i watched another video today (mr pokke + a fox vtuber) with where we could see the substat rolls, some of them goes from like 8% to 21% possible, it's a lot of rng
you need a special item to raise echoes on top of exp you need "tuners" to even see the sub stat you got, so its layer upon of rng and grinding, genuinely who thought this was a good idea
I like the system, but it needs to refined and simplified more. It's one step too complex and I think the reason for that is how the sub stats work (too many and seems to be too rng based)
independant rolls for each player. so if we kill a monster, you would have a 20% chance to get an echo, and i would have an independant 20% chance to get an echo
3 problems with the current system: 1. Farming echoes is much more time consuming that the common domain grinding, making it unfit for a daily play. 2. Farming echoes does cost stamina but the upgrade materials DO. Making the time to reach endgame pretty much the same as artifact grind. 3. Echoes with the wrong stats are COMPLETELY USELESS. There's even no way to turn an unupgraded echo into fodder. So the negative feedback for useless echo drop is even greater that artifacts. Also, the current co-op mode seems susceptible to farming bot abuse.
One of the main goal for a gacha developers is making endgame build-up hard and long. If you think the endgame build-up is easy, then either you miss something or the game designer messed up somehow.
@@zengqiu3149 It's an option if you don't wanna roam the map. And to begin with, it's pretty much the artifact system or relic system in hoyoverse games. You grind the gear but still need to go to other domains to get mats. In here you can atleast "infinitely" farm "gear" if you want to.
i will be honest im not sure if i like the idea of running around the world for grinding these pieces genshins grind long term is such a chore becoz of a lack of auto battle and here it feels were making it even more annoying.
@@Splar_tyseems like some peps are suggesting September or October due to some license expiring in China, i think mmoByte mentions it properly, but it's all just speculation
![TOP 5 TIPS For Echo Farming!!! [Wuthering Waves]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/fR7nN9XlTk4/mqdefault.jpg)
What do you guys think of the system so far?
Different from your regular artifacts and is not lock behind resin
This is a breath of fresh air and I think I'm gonna enjoy it more since I'm not locked in a small space, battling the same mobs over and over again, hoping for some good stats on my drops.
Especially when this system isn't locked to any "stamina" bullshit, I can entirely avoid some FOMOs about stamina capping. It also make exploration more fun beside just collecting materials or finding treasure chest.
You can actually have same stats on substats, like if you have Atk% on mainstat you can have Atk% again on substat.
They should guarantee echo drops from bosses, but leave it up to chance for open world monsters.
I'm not really sure you can call it "the best gear system". I fell like it's way to much rng even compared to other gachas
Dayum never seen such a good combat system with such complexity .. Wuwa doesn't fail to impress
What a glazer
@@junioraffokpon2408 who the f are you?
@@junioraffokpon2408In comparison to other gacha game combat, is he really? And if he isn’t, name one on par and saying pgr is dumb cuz the same company made this game lol.
@@junioraffokpon2408’i have no way to refute this so what should i do? call him a glazer’
They could add a system with a pnj that buy your "useless" echoes and echange it for an item that allow player to reroll one substat of an echos.
the possibility of shiny hunting and combat style is really to my liking
keep it up volkin! i don't see other ccs putting in nearly as much time as you, thx for the content
THX VOLKIN 👍
Man I just started watching your Wuthering Waves content and I'm very excited about this game. As someone that's played genshin and TOF from release on both and as someone that's long quit them. This game so far from what I've seen has fixed alot of the issues I've had with the other to games. I really wish I knew about it sooner to play the CBT2.
The echoes system looks like a straight way to burnout for me. I don't have the time or the patience for this kind of rng
😂 same this might be even worse than artifact system if im not mistaken
The idea of the echo system is amazing but
1. Tacet fields for echo's are basically a scam for waveplates.
2. There is too much rng for how long it takes to farm. Ive been farming for havoc main stats for multiple days now without a single drop
Cant wait for your Reroll guide bruh
I am a little concerned how hard it is to find crit rate. I feel like crit rate boss piece is just the default for everyone which is s little sad.
Thanks man, I was able to jot down everything.(reply if you want me to type it down in my reply)
I agree. I think there's too many stats that are going on, I hope they remove some of it. I wouldn't even mind if they remove all those individual elemental damage and just add one "elemental damage" which basically works for all types. If they can't do that, then maybe they could just make sub stat percentages fixed. Like no more 8.5% crit dmg in one echo, and then 15.1% crit dmg on another, and make it so higher rarity just gives higher sub stat.
On top of that, I hope they add something similar to a usb from pgr where it basically allows you to pick your own stat.(If they can't do anything else above, then I hope this one will happen at least)
These rng gears are just too much of a pain in the head, I'm coping too much.
my opinion for wasted echo is if they add salvage which gives below 10% exp if they are lvl 0, atleast this would prevent infinite farming to some degree and just have some value or so
I'm curious about one thing which I can't seem to find anywhere. When farming echoes in someone else's world, can both of you claim the echo? Or only one of you?
Awesome topic❤
on the bottom left corner, inst that button used to find the main stats? idk it just looks like it, but i dont know how it works lol
just say how to get them holy shit
Hope shinies have quite the special stats. that would be worth a damn time
I've never played Genshin so I dunno much about their similarities but I think I would be happy farming monsters as artifacts/relics substitute. I wonder if this would be on mobile because I would gladly try it instead of Genshin.
10/10 video
Is number of echoes one can have limited? I really want to know!
Its good that we can grind echoes. But im worried that there will be a lot of substats rng.
lol i watched another video today (mr pokke + a fox vtuber) with where we could see the substat rolls, some of them goes from like 8% to 21% possible, it's a lot of rng
you need a special item to raise echoes
on top of exp you need "tuners" to even see the sub stat you got, so its layer upon of rng and grinding, genuinely who thought this was a good idea
Is there anyway to swap echoes that you are using in a battle?😊
How do i get convene is it premium currency?
Can you spam farm the crownless boss for his echo??
Unlo grind for gears?! Sign me up!
i wish they give some item to custom the sub stat..
I like the system, but it needs to refined and simplified more. It's one step too complex and I think the reason for that is how the sub stats work (too many and seems to be too rng based)
Where we can get a crownless Echo?
Does the shiny monster give higher stats if it drops an echo?
When it’ll come
Volkin will there be another beta or this is last one?
no idea sry
People have been saying it’s most likely the last beta.
Most likely last. CN server has purchases enable and by law it can only be enabled for the last beta
what happens when the echoes drop, do all players (in co-op) get the echo or only 1 player gets it?
I think someone said that they both will get the same echo (?)
independant rolls for each player.
so if we kill a monster, you would have a 20% chance to get an echo, and i would have an independant 20% chance to get an echo
@@volkingacha i see thnx alot for the info
3 problems with the current system:
1. Farming echoes is much more time consuming that the common domain grinding, making it unfit for a daily play.
2. Farming echoes does cost stamina but the upgrade materials DO. Making the time to reach endgame pretty much the same as artifact grind.
3. Echoes with the wrong stats are COMPLETELY USELESS. There's even no way to turn an unupgraded echo into fodder. So the negative feedback for useless echo drop is even greater that artifacts.
Also, the current co-op mode seems susceptible to farming bot abuse.
One of the main goal for a gacha developers is making endgame build-up hard and long. If you think the endgame build-up is easy, then either you miss something or the game designer messed up somehow.
You can farm echoes using the energy system. They talked about it in their dev talk
@@kaionyoki3670 Dude what do you mean? Isn't stamina-free the point of echo farming?
@@zengqiu3149 It's an option if you don't wanna roam the map. And to begin with, it's pretty much the artifact system or relic system in hoyoverse games. You grind the gear but still need to go to other domains to get mats. In here you can atleast "infinitely" farm "gear" if you want to.
@@kaionyoki3670 You do realize that 90% of farmed echo are completely useless, but 90% of artifacts can at least serve as fodder right?
When does the game release on global?
We still have no information regarding official release.
22nd may
i will be honest im not sure if i like the idea of running around the world for grinding these pieces genshins grind long term is such a chore becoz of a lack of auto battle and here it feels were making it even more annoying.
Its optional. You have regular domain for farming. Those who want to grind can run around the world looking for echo.
@@anyaforgors Nice
@@anyaforgorsoh that makes things so much better having alternate ways to grind stuff is so crucial
@@RainEater It cost 60 stamina which is bad but we don't know if the echoes gold drop will increase in higher level.
When will it be release in global?
Can't enter in beta😢
not sure yet sry
October 25 2024
@@jls3489 where'd u get this info bro
@@Splar_tyseems like some peps are suggesting September or October due to some license expiring in China, i think mmoByte mentions it properly, but it's all just speculation
So they copied Genshins artifacts and made it more complicated.... Yay....
😂
Just like warframe
i don't like it looks and plays too much like Genshin
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Nowadays open world=Genshin 😮💨
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I don't like Genshin it looks and plays too much like Zelda