Military service is much harder than performing in a stage 😅........... Nowadays people only thing is to hate on kpop idols...... How cruel the people are telling that the surgery was fake..... Nobody know how much he had suffered from this pain......
He was literally turned down by their government, do you think opinions of people who aren't even korean matters more than the decision of the KOREAN government regarding KOREAN military enlistment?!
@@pa1ak_7his injury was found to be grade 5. if it was grade 4, he could've done public service but it's too severe so he was completely exempt. don't act like you know sk's military enlistment laws better than their own government, bcs they themselves have asked him not to serve and he WOULDN'T have been exempt if the injury wasn't grave enough. it's not easy to just get out of it by faking.
@@pa1ak_7 do you have any idea about sk military? Their t&c ? Even if you do social services you have to go through primary military training for few months which can literally aggravate injury to permanent damage.
To analyse more for those people 1. Suga went through an accident in past, he injured his shoulder. He didn't get surgery for many years. At last he got surgery and took treatment for months. Yet he still got grade 4 by SK military and doctors. Scoups got his knee injured and got the surgery without any delay for years. He went through treatment for some months and he got grade 5. Imagine if a person who went through a injury pain for years but still got grade 4 but a person who got treated immediately and got grade 5, it's coz the injury is serious.... Are people still out of mind... It explains a lot about the seriousness of injury ACL could end a sports man career If a football player got ACL it's over for him/her The people with ACL surgery might walk and dance a bit but not some serious steps 2. People saying he will be in group activities. Yes he will but that doesn't mean he will dance and do backflips. Do you guys remember when jungkook got some injury to foot he still participated in tour but he used to sit and sing his parts in song. Scoups might as well be like that only 3. He is coming because he have a lot of responsibility. When he was getting treatment lot of things happened Joshua rumoured gf, jeonghan health, he wants to come back to make sure nothing happens to team. He might do song writing and rapping 4. People saying he can do public service 🤦🏻♀️ Its SK govt and their military officers who gave him grade 5. That's their laws. They have rules on who to give what grade. Atleast be happy our idol is grade 4 and can do something for govt. Imagine scoups can't do anything bcoz he's grade 5 As someone who know both groups can say, scoups is not someone who fake things to get away. He is physically strong mentally too He always take responsibility. Pretty sure if it's not for ACL, he will happily go for military. Be a man you guys saying to him...😢 If going to military is what defines a man does all your family members are going to military??? I'm asking this to international fans. SK citizens are not saying anything mostly to scoups it's you guys shouting around No wonder RM said you guys changed. Don't make them anymore disappointed with your actions. Know the context full before saying/doing anything
This really needs to get pinned. Thank god someone said it all. What i personally think is, whoever is hating Scoups over this thing are mostly in the range of 13-17 year olds? Because thE toxic part comes from them mostly. And it's disappointing to see those kids trying to sprew up shits
Idk why the creator doesn't pin such comments! She really wants drama in the comment section! Thank you so much for this important piece of information. You're really a responsible netizens❤
Just one correction: An ACL rupture happens on the knee, so yes he has injured his knee and not ankle. The risky part with ACL is that if it gets overstrained/reinjured again, it can actually make a person cripple and unable to walk for the rest of his life. This is why it is an injury that gets automatic exemption from the military. Just added this point to emphasize on the severity of his injury since many people are undermining it. Apart from that, everything you said is absolutely correct. I am a person who became a BTS fan in 2016 during Wings era and SVT fan in 2022 but seeing how many Armys are treating SCoups is beyond disheartening.
Thanks dear I know kpop because of BTS since 2018 and seventeen from 2020 I respect both groups and know what scoups is Man literally they also came from small company and known as self producers Don't know why people are behaving like this Last time insulted jeonghan know scoups Hope people become more understanding like us @@ECN300
“netizens are saying he’s lying” meanwhile knetz (who know about their own country’s military more than Joanna from new jersey) are saying he shouldn’t serve at all and hope he recovers well
I hate this creater because they always spread rumours adding “ acc to netizens “ like they are the spreading false rumours all of their videos are negative towards the idols
Yeah, all the "rumours" that this account talks about I heard it here first. Probably they're the ones who make them up or they turned very small rumors into big ones
they totally are most of them are comparing suga and scoups , it's all armies drama none of the netizens because in korea they are wishing him speedy recovery
@@avishijoshi5292 there are literally so many in this comment section itself 😭 what more do you wanna see? the situation is 100x worse on twt and insta bcs armys are being f**king VILE towards him
@@pa1ak_7 yeah I know it was a car accident and he fractured his left leg and healed and he passed the exam but Scoups got torn ACL and you're never going to get the same range of movement ever again you will feel everytime you try to do something and he got grade 5 which is why he can't serve or do public service.
Like what's wrong with you people?? He wasn't the one who exempted himself from the military but the government did . If you have any problem go ask the government,stop sending hate to him🫡
@@cartoonworld4140 you think one man can exclude himself from a nation wide recruiting system just because?? Military doctors were the ones to make the call, the same happens with conscription in my country, everyone who gets drafted has multiple exams and physical tests run on their bodies before getting accepted.
I am an ARMY too ..I cannot understand these toxic ARMYs..because of these toxic fans BTS gets defamed..How can anyone say Scoups is faking his injury?! Do these fans really know how worse ACl injury can be ?? As a medical student I can confirm..with ACL injury one can not join military..just wash the dust on your brain and then accuse someone...Y'all getting so toxic nowadays..RM said exactly right ..ARMYs have changed...
@@praneethamudedla9729 I'm really sorry to pop your little bubble off, but what SHE said was true, the toxic part of our fandom is getting out of hands, and yeah i saw my own tl and even if you go through the comments here, they are blaming Scoups for the same. And most importantly i get you that it hurts to look back at the time Yoongi was getting dragged, but it's not always important to fucking "clAp BaCk"?? Have some common sense can they? And those who are saying that "he can do the desk job" no he cannot. It's a fucking RULE MADE BY GOVERNMENT OF KOREA. Anyong with an ACL problem are EXEMPTED, if anyone likes it or not. Even if he gets better, he won't have to serve since THATS the LAW.
@@praneethamudedla9729 and even one of them were carats do we have to blame the whole fandom and hate the idol? And when it come to armys you guys just make one excuse " they were not real armys they were the toxic ones" omfg I'm so tired of this. Even when armys hate on someone I don't even say that cause more than 40% of our fandom is toxic. And hoe are you gonna explain when mingyu got hate just become he spent a night I jks home and for not being Tae? You guys just make everything of yourself!
@@pa1ak_7since you are unaware here you go "According to South Korea’s conscription system, men in Grade 5 are exempt from mandatory military service during peacetime. In the case of a war, they are required to perform labor in support of the military."
i don’t think ppl understand how hard it is to be exempted from military service, and how serious an ACL injury is. we are lucky that scoups is able to return to activities now, because usually ACL injuries can take years to recover from. i wish scoups a speedy recovery and i hope he isn’t upset by the people saying he’s faking it ❤️❤️
Military enlistment is a big matter in S. korea and there's no fools sitting in military if they announced there must be serious problem. We should protect scoups, carats will always love you💎
How can they hate s.coups for literally an injury. They are hating him instead of being worried about him.I don't even know how nowadays neitizens are just hating idols for literally nothing. I am tired of this. And also military service is more harder than singing. I wish he get better soon. Don't worry s.coups don't cry i and carats loves you.❤
⚠️‼️I love how y'all are acting! Every South Korean man with Acl injury is categorised under Grade5 despite the result of the surgery and completely exempted from military and social services and unfit to be in military, a lot of korean men in military with acl injuries get retired or dismissed for lifetime, only required to serve during war time. Argue with the wall if you find it double standards!!!! After recovery he'll dance and perform his @ss off and nobody can stop him, it's his efforts and choice!! Educate yourself! If you still continue to hate then you just lack Empathy and Morals!‼️⚠️
@@pa1ak_7 there is no proof of him getting a grade 5. Its impossible to serve in grade 5. Its literally mentioned in the LAW. Where are getting youre fake info from???? What does it give to you to blindly hate a person who doesn’t know you???????
@@pa1ak_7 and now you're dragging him as well.. You know? None of your business?? Him going to military or not won't affect your life so kindly shut up!
Pledis made it very clear in the announcement that *" SCOUPS WILL COMEBACK IN APRIL BUT WILL B HAVING LIMITED PERFORMANCE"* which means he wont b actively able to jump around in the concert like he used to do b4... His entire knee movement range is limited cuz of the injury which means it will affect him for a long run... Ppl shouldn't rly b this mean whn DOCTORS themselves checked him up + (i heard) there's actually a MILITARY LAW for acl injured ppl...
ITS ALWAYS “ACCORDING TO NETIZENS” Netizens are just fans that think they know what they’re talking about but they don’t, because who lies about a injury?
Pls remember that you are a human before a fandom…dont lose your humanity pls…very sad to see ppl lose their humanity just because their bias is in the military and others ppl get exempted due to ACL….
Comparing dancing to something like military training is pathetic.... Suga's injury is grade 4 , while Scoups's is grade 5 Men with grade 5 injury are exempted from military and are only called on during war time. Educate yourself before saying anything...
Everyone here talking about suga the fact that suga's injury was grade 4 and he HAD to do public service as per the order of the government and scoup's injury is literally grade 5 and he is exempted by the government like brooo s coups or his company aint got no power to exempt from the mandatory military service
@@avishijoshi5292 the Korean government does a health checkup before enlisting anyone in the military and rank them grade 1 indicates that the person is healthy and thus has to serve in the military grade 4 indicates that the person is not very well and cannot be enlisted but they are healthy enough for performing public services and serve in war grade 5 indicates the person isn't healthy enough to either serve in the military or do public services hence they are exempted yet they have to serve during any war
@@avishijoshi5292 yes scoups is grade 5 and he is exempted by the government he did not ask for exemption himself these armies be hating others in the name of defending "mY iDoL"
@@jdfjdnjkewbfuwihnioerjeo4jryes...I have problem...tell your army frnd to keep this toxicity to your own Fandom....it will be seriously worse if you armys try to say bullsh*t about our s.cuops
@@ArunKumar-ek5eh girl wtf? whatever i typed was for armys, why on earth did u think it was addressed to u? and when the fuck did i say anything bad about scoups, r u blind ?? i'm a carat man gtfo that was literally addressed to armys
So they actually think that government of korea will let him go easily even if he is lying 🤦♀️ I mean it's pretty obvious that before exempting him from military services they definitely investigate his condition And if they are thinking he did it on purpose so NO ONE CAN HURT THEMSELVES THIS MUCH BADLY INTENTIONALLY JUST FOR EXEMPTING FROM MILITARY SERVICES
the comments here were making me so disgust .. i won't lie at this point i really wanted to see you comment.....how can they be so inhumane to someone and talks about karma
@@dreamplace1004especially these armies they are even saying he is coward , not like they know how he manage his group and fight for them nor they know how hard it must have been for him
@@twoteen_hamster fr.... they always like to compare bts with every single kpop groups even if it's not necessary In X they are hating s.coups like he committed an serious crime
This topic is starting to annoy me 🙄 Like, a fucking doctor + the law prohibits him from doing military service. And also social work. He took a damn test and failed because of his injury. I really don't know why so many people hate him now. Like, what should he do? To mess with the doctor or the law? Those up there have decided he can't take up his duties and that's it. Yes, it's unfortunate that it was announced quite quickly that he was coming out of his break. Still, do we know if he will dance again? It may sound unbelievable, but as an idol, dancing isn't his only job. What's wrong with him starting to sing and rap again? Besides, you can't possibly compare dancing to training in the military. And now to those who bring BTS back into the game. Yes, it sucks that Carats (who wasn't one at the time) supposedly put Suga down like that because of his injury, but you really want to fight fire with fire? Especially because S.Coups can't even do anything about it. Do you think Suga would praise you if you trashed a colleague on his behalf? You can be bitter about what Carats did to you, but the path some of you are choosing is truly pathetic.
lets be real those who hated suga can't be considered as a carat neither these army's hating s.coups should be considered as army ....at this point its so pathetic
'according to netizens' or according to your nonesense assumptions ? Damn, my man is injured so bad and why would he lie about it. Let my man free and get some rest.
@VaishuThakur-kr9oz womp womp literally y'all military wives only cried exemption bc y'all think they're so famous korea abt to die without them. suddenly y'all claim injuries of those members and act like a victim when called out. double standards my ass, go develop your brain or something
You're not Scoups, you don't know what he went through in his current situation. Yes, he's coming back this March, but his movements are still limited. You don't have the right to say that he's faking his injury if you don't know anything about his injury. Be mindful, it's not that hard.
@@tanishthajaiswal8928 oh ok cause I also seen a few people in the comments talking about the army’s as well I guess the person that posted it got mistaken by calling the army’s “Netizens”
I'm a physiotherapist who dealt with many about 50 ACL patient of all age and different grades. Only in severe cases surgery is done. Many of you saying once he recover he can join military and let me tell you the after effects of acl is permanent. When acl breaks the stability of knee is affected and military training is very hard and require 100% strength. Moverver you are not at all qualified enough to pass your judgement. No medical experience no opinion.
Who said he was going to be dancing? Joining a comeback doesn’t mean he will be dancing. and do you realize how rigorous military training is compared to dancing? No matter what position he would have, he would have to train. The military themselves exempted him. It wasn’t his choice to be exempted.
This is so bad I lost my grandfather due to health issues and here seeing people saying it's karma and all like whattt they are stupid broo I am 17 but our generation literally suck tbh they all lost humanity 😢 how can someone make fun of health issues even they are comparing too 😢
Why would he be lying?? He got exempted from military, just imagine how serious the injury is… military service is harder than performing on stage.. we should be supporting Scoups and seventeen rn ❤️
WTF is wrong with the people . HE WENT FOR PHYSICAL EXAMINATIONS REQUIRED FOR MILITARY SERVICES. THE EXAMINERS ANNOUNCED THAT HE IS NOT FIT FOR TRAINING . How many times do they have to rectify. It was the examination reports which say he is unfit not him.
Put yourself in his shoes and then consider, when u r injured u don't even move from your bed and asking him to serve MILITARY, a healthy person cannot handle the military hardships and u r asking a injured person to serve🤬
Please stop hating scoups for not get enlistment in military because of his injury and please don't compare with suga please toxic army stop spreading hate to him he is still recovering please send him love and please support him
with all due disrespect.... shut up and leave these people alone. I am sick of all the complaints these people are getting for being human, just leave them alone
@@BTSbulliesyourfavesoncharts not by carats lmao, everyone showing the same 3-4 screenshots of trolls and dummy accounts. stop justifying hate by hate, that's such a loser behavior
1.Scoups is not the first person to exemption from military. There have been other artist too, like Ahn heo seop, Kim woo bin, Seo in guk, etc. Exemption from military is not decided by themselves infact there are certain criteria set by kgovt and military that you have too full fill to get that exemtion and if Scoups got exempted it means he didn't full fill the criteria. 2.Those dumb idiots who think that he can lie and get away with it need some working brain cells because not serving permanent military( without any reason) is a crime in Sk and no person with right mind would do it. There was a person who skipped his service was literally banned by the whole country and recently an idol has been caught lying and facing chargers. 3Also I personally think these international kpop fans should have no right to say anything in this. This is about their military not some entertainment event where you can bug in whenever you want. There are so many rules and things that I kpop fans don't know about and commenting on something that you don't know is another way of proving yourself dumb. Let korean military decide whether its right or wrong. 4.Just because your oppa didn't got exempted doesn't mean you will hate others who got it
I hate kpop stans who think they know everything about Korea only by looking through net. Korean fans are all wishing him fast recovery bcz they know being exempted from military means it's not a minor injury. Shame on those people for throwing hate. They have no heart.
How is he lying?! He's been sitting out of group activities since august ladt year. He missed out a lot of activities, even big ones such as unesco, because of his injury! He missed their cb promotion, tours, nanatour, etc. Some of you cant really understand how badly injured he is! He was given grade 5 by medical experts! He was assessed by professionals. His participation in group activities can be adjusted based on his health status. Pledis notice even pointed out that their participation may be limited and that there might be activities and choreographies that they need to sit out. Whereas in military, that cant be done! Even if he is assigned in office, he still need to go basic military training like everyone else!
He got the permission from the Govt of South Korea so there is no point of lying and many koreans actors are also exempted from military training like-Kim woo bin,Seo In Guk, Jo Jung Suk,Ahn Hyo Seop to name a few🫠🫠
Being an ARMYCARAT i can say that it's really shameful for both the whole fandom for you to post such videos... 1stly you are taking down the name of the fandom ARMY, coz because of some of you people others are hating BTS and ARMY as your channel name is related to BTS. 😠 And unfortunate to say such people do not belong to ARMY who spread unnecessary hate towards other idols!! 2ndly military service is far more than performing on stage! I have seen some comparing Suga from BTS and Scoups from SVT... Like seriously! We who are in the fandom truly know that they both were injured at times... Suga got his shoulder injury and had surgery in 2020 which he recovered much and it was his own decision to join the military service and he is also unfit for the regular combat duty according to the rules due to his injury for which he went as a social service agent. And about SCoups, were you the doctor who treated him! How can you say that the injury is not much severe... He obviously need time to recover himself... And we Carats also have seen him performing in shows but in wheelchair or with some support to stand! And 3rdly.. what is your concern that what others idols are doing! For views!! If you can't respect them just don't hate them... No one asked for your opinion.. cause by this you are not only gaining some views but also hates and some reports!😑 So please stop hating other in the name of BTS and ARMY !! Or change your channel name and do whatever you want no one cares, cause it would be only you who can gain reports!!!!🙄
As a carat most of my friends are army and I’m so damn sure that ppl who are pretending to be army like this is ruining it all. Not only army there are trashy fans every where ruining every fandom. Even fake carats. Idols are performers and we’re supposed to be the fans who enjoy it. We don’t have to fight each other and ruin the fun . We are all here for the fun right. I hate seeing ppl like this bro
@@clino137 he is doing it for fans not for earning money Even if he wouldn't have performed he would still get money from his agency but instead of resting he is ready to perform for his fans . You know you are the dumbest person on this earth if you have svt
y'all acting as if carats were the only one hating on suga,there were numerous other groups.. none of the carat here ever said what happened with suga was right but y'all have to involve him everywhere.. and the audacity you have to DEFEND Cyber Bullying And Mass Hating under the excexcuse of Karma.. good job armies, one on side you say not only armies are hating but its majority of you people.. nice, keep making your fandom worse than it already is
Some Y'all saying yoongi was hated back then and s coups deserves the karma is so loosing morals over kpop and your faves... Hes NAWT GONNA DO BACKFLIP, SUMMER SAULTS OR ANY OTHER HEAVY MOVES AS IT TAKES LONG TO RECOVER. hes in rehab. And those who hated yoongi and scoups left and right, i tell you guys are TOXIC ONES, both armys and carats. You guys better change that toxic trait of yours rather than sending hate.
Tell that to your fandom who shitted on yoongi for years. On all of the boys , tbh. And while you are at it, go report your co fandom "besties" users @cisnys and @chuckflaptail for doxxing people and encourage their followers to send mails to their jobs, to harras their families on socmed and tag their works spaces. Morals over kpop? Call out your fandom.1st.
@@jiminflyingatsunset of course i will report all the toxic ones. Did you not read the part where I mentioned "both Army's and carats" ? Chill I was telling both the fandoms hun
@@jiminflyingatsunset and yes I still stand by the "morals over kpop" bc talking shit about an injured person is not right. Again I m saying this to both carats and Armys. Okay now? And fyi I belong to both the fandom
See we are not saying suga deserve it we have whole sympathy with suga and as you know sk government give them their services according to their condition for suga they give him office work and since s.coups injury is pretty serious and fresh so they give him exempt And i am extremely sorry behalf of those carats who hate bts for this i love and respect bts as a carat i am so sorry behalf of them but it's doesn't mean you will also become same and start hating svt instead of that teach those immature carats how to behave
As an ARMY myself I'm ashamed that people like you are doing to others the same thing that BTS went through. Toxic people spreading stories to hurt others behind the whole "i'm protecting BTS" agenda while BTS members themselves only spread positivity. Do better.
As someone whos father fought in the military, theese people dont know NAYTHING about how hard it is innthe military compared to jyst dinging and dancing
@@pa1ak_7and he STILL can't serve there as he has a grade 5 injury and it's the GOVERNMENT who exempt him from any ms!!!! you keep acting like it's his own decision. fed up of this toxicity and immaturity
Yes he's lying, The person have been suffering from a long time, cancelling events to get rest is lying, isn't it? And Performance is not the same as Serving for the country... Let the dawgs bark...
Why does that certain fandom care so much. Scoups could barely walk on his own like two months ago this man clearly is not in any physical shape to do any sort of military training! I guess some of us don’t understand how severe an acl injury really is.
To the people saying he can do social work like suga, ofc bro he can but what he can do if medical staff categorized his injury under grade 5. Exemption is not something you can get, it is given by medical professionals and military law. If they declare him unfit for any kind of services what he can do. Injured people under grade 5 get exemption, its a law, you want him to go against the law. If you all have problem then question this law not s coups. Its not like he go to them and said that i have acl injury and they accept it . They examine him. Medical professionals are not fool that they give him exemption. Rules and regulations are made up by professionals very carefully and after full research. And if he can or can not do service even after rest, the one examine him will decide. And about concert we all wait and see what type of activity he will do on stage. And if he will do extreme steps on stage then it is going to be harmful for himself. And if carats dont have any problem of him being on stage only singing not dancing then people who havent invest money or time on him dont need to worry. And even if you did every persons carrer end one day so from now on dont invest your money or time if you dont want And there is difference between performing on stage and mandatory service. If something happens on stage they can take immediate action but you know rules of military are very strict. Once they give you any task you have to complete it like if they told you to run 10 laps of ground you have to do it no matter what. I know they are asking him to do social service but i just give an example that rule of mandatory service are strict. I just want to say he cant go to them and zay that no i will do service when they declare him unfit for this. If suga was unfit for service, he also could get exemption.
scoups underwent TWO reconstructions (acl and antolateral ligament) in his left knee. it is a MAJOR surgery. he was given level 5 in the physical examination. also, he's MEDICALLY advised to still carry out his schedules AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T PUT TOO MUCH STRAIN on his body!
I'm not his fan and in a part of seventeen's fandom but I just want to say that I don't think he's lying. He knows what would cause him. I think he is the one who really wants to participate the military service if he could. People are so mean, they have no idea that he is the one who is suffering from this situation that he can't do anything and change at all. These people are really heartless.
no, like seriously don't y'all have anything better to do???...to think there are people like this w no conscience and has the audacity to blame coups for his injury is really sad
honestly, I feel like the people who doubt his injury should try having a ACL injury while trying to do military service and see how long they last..people always think they know more than doctors and Korean people..
S.Coups ain't lying no one... This is just rumor and some hater found this side for hate but we carats are really and we all trust S.coups... He is the best and he never say lie with his health and I want to say one thing. Not expexct all but some ''Army'' i.e Fake army say trash rumors about S.coups and they're all stupid, fake in this life. Fake ARMY please leave Fandom bcz you only hate for BTS & Army and also S.coups. S.coups and Suga are different from each other and don't worry S.coups will join military service bcz He is real man and he never find trash lie!!!!! Got it
SCoups doesn't need to prove anything to anyone. He doesn't need to come forward and say he is saying the truth. He isn't going to serve in the millitary and that's final. Y'all can stay pressed as much as you want.n
Those who are saying it's Karma and defending cyber bullying as a justification for the previous actions of toxic carats...... please know that go a hate those toxic carats no one's going to bat an eye....but making jokes and passing demeaning statements about someone's extremely serious injury isn't a justifiable action under any circumstances......(do you think hating and disrespecting S.coups will make Suga happy? Idiots....if you think that you're just disrespecting your own idol my portraying him as a cruel inhuman being)
This video just makes everyone angry and upset... As a carat I wanna fight. I can't control my temper level after seeing this video 😶... Why would our leader will fake it???.... Are you guys jealous or something that your favs are going to military but scoups isn't????... Please stop tjis. Why would anyone fake about a serious injury..?? We know his pain so please stop spreading unnecessary hate towards him 🙏😣
He deserves the world, here after months and he's so hard on himself, just because he shows on stage he's okay doesn't mean he is and and a ACL injury takes so much time to fully recover but he came back on his feet so fast just because of the pressure he received. I really wish he doesn't go hard on himself and as a carat, i can assure that carats will always support our leader no matter what he doesas long as he's happy and healthy. I just wish the best for him 🤍🍒💎
Okay then even the reports are lying okay then are you even saying that the person who check it is also lying why don't netizens just become doctor and tell then
I don't care about what people going. I believe in S. Coups. He can't lie about such a serious thing. And if they have no solid proof they shouldn't just jump to conclusions and be calling him a liar
What if the same happened with BTS would you be hating on them like this off course not right. Just because we carats DON'T SAY anything that doesn't mean you'll dance on our head so dear *teenager armies* stop hating and study instead of hating.
It did happen tho, they called suga names for not being able to do normal enlistment. But this does not excuse the hate that coups is getting… they have to stop
@@xia8696 some immature armies or i can those girlies who have 1 or 2 bias have hated Suga too that i know(they shouldn't) but they should keep there hate to their fandom instead of hating those idols whom they don't even know about. We carats know what he have been through just because of his injury he wasn't able to go for NANA tour for which he was so happy and excited earlier he wished to go there but couldn't. He'll be joining concerts just because of our happiness.
Don't play so dirty that later you will regret it...... In which ever Fandom you belong plz don't lose your humanity Scoups is a person who is honest to his work and duties ...... And yes we are here for him......
Guys my finger had a fracture (a minor)I couldn't do anything,So how tf is he going to serve military if his leg is fractured 😶😶 Have some simpathy and don't hate him. As a multistan I feel really bad 😢😢
Serving in Military is much more difficult than just singing and HE ISN'T LYING HE JUST JOINED THE GROUP
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@@Rui_world14 YESS I LOVE THEM YOU TOO??
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@@Rui_world14 YEAH
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Scoups really doesn't need to explain anything to anyone. We trust him
Right 💜
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@@himaririku9254 ???
@@himaririku9254 we didn't talk about stray kids
No he can't lie
Military service is much harder than performing in a stage 😅........... Nowadays people only thing is to hate on kpop idols...... How cruel the people are telling that the surgery was fake..... Nobody know how much he had suffered from this pain......
No one is telling him to do military service he can do social service like suga Or can do some desk job
He was literally turned down by their government, do you think opinions of people who aren't even korean matters more than the decision of the KOREAN government regarding KOREAN military enlistment?!
@@pa1ak_7the government told him not to inlist with an injury
@@pa1ak_7his injury was found to be grade 5. if it was grade 4, he could've done public service but it's too severe so he was completely exempt. don't act like you know sk's military enlistment laws better than their own government, bcs they themselves have asked him not to serve and he WOULDN'T have been exempt if the injury wasn't grave enough. it's not easy to just get out of it by faking.
@@pa1ak_7 do you have any idea about sk military? Their t&c ? Even if you do social services you have to go through primary military training for few months which can literally aggravate injury to permanent damage.
To analyse more for those people
1. Suga went through an accident in past, he injured his shoulder. He didn't get surgery for many years. At last he got surgery and took treatment for months. Yet he still got grade 4 by SK military and doctors.
Scoups got his knee injured and got the surgery without any delay for years. He went through treatment for some months and he got grade 5.
Imagine if a person who went through a injury pain for years but still got grade 4 but a person who got treated immediately and got grade 5, it's coz the injury is serious....
Are people still out of mind...
It explains a lot about the seriousness of injury
ACL could end a sports man career
If a football player got ACL it's over for him/her
The people with ACL surgery might walk and dance a bit but not some serious steps
2. People saying he will be in group activities. Yes he will but that doesn't mean he will dance and do backflips.
Do you guys remember when jungkook got some injury to foot he still participated in tour but he used to sit and sing his parts in song.
Scoups might as well be like that only
3. He is coming because he have a lot of responsibility. When he was getting treatment lot of things happened
Joshua rumoured gf, jeonghan health, he wants to come back to make sure nothing happens to team. He might do song writing and rapping
4. People saying he can do public service 🤦🏻♀️
Its SK govt and their military officers who gave him grade 5. That's their laws. They have rules on who to give what grade. Atleast be happy our idol is grade 4 and can do something for govt. Imagine scoups can't do anything bcoz he's grade 5
As someone who know both groups can say, scoups is not someone who fake things to get away. He is physically strong mentally too
He always take responsibility. Pretty sure if it's not for ACL, he will happily go for military. Be a man you guys saying to him...😢 If going to military is what defines a man does all your family members are going to military??? I'm asking this to international fans. SK citizens are not saying anything mostly to scoups it's you guys shouting around
No wonder RM said you guys changed. Don't make them anymore disappointed with your actions. Know the context full before saying/doing anything
Another thing this stupid channel should get blocked on yt always making wrong titles
This really needs to get pinned. Thank god someone said it all. What i personally think is, whoever is hating Scoups over this thing are mostly in the range of 13-17 year olds? Because thE toxic part comes from them mostly. And it's disappointing to see those kids trying to sprew up shits
Idk why the creator doesn't pin such comments! She really wants drama in the comment section!
Thank you so much for this important piece of information. You're really a responsible netizens❤
Just one correction: An ACL rupture happens on the knee, so yes he has injured his knee and not ankle. The risky part with ACL is that if it gets overstrained/reinjured again, it can actually make a person cripple and unable to walk for the rest of his life. This is why it is an injury that gets automatic exemption from the military. Just added this point to emphasize on the severity of his injury since many people are undermining it.
Apart from that, everything you said is absolutely correct. I am a person who became a BTS fan in 2016 during Wings era and SVT fan in 2022 but seeing how many Armys are treating SCoups is beyond disheartening.
Thanks dear
I know kpop because of BTS since 2018 and seventeen from 2020
I respect both groups and know what scoups is
Man literally they also came from small company and known as self producers
Don't know why people are behaving like this
Last time insulted jeonghan know scoups
Hope people become more understanding like us
@@ECN300
“netizens are saying he’s lying” meanwhile knetz (who know about their own country’s military more than Joanna from new jersey) are saying he shouldn’t serve at all and hope he recovers well
it's armys creating this whole drama and hating this guy for something he had no control over 😭
@@avishijoshi5292 bc I've seen them with my own eyes? on every social media platform possible
@@avishijoshi5292there a ss of whole group chat of toxic army's talking sh*t about scoup
@@avishijoshi5292those toxic armys were comparing scoups and suga
@@avishijoshi5292 because it's literally all of them complaining about it all over twitter
I hate this creater because they always spread rumours adding “ acc to netizens “ like they are the spreading false rumours all of their videos are negative towards the idols
Yeah, all the "rumours" that this account talks about I heard it here first. Probably they're the ones who make them up or they turned very small rumors into big ones
@@cinnabonbish5124these "rumours" are actually true tho. it's mainly armys dragging this guy for being exempt
@@ijustwannaenjoymyselfhere I don't think armys are dragging him coz I haven't seen any army hating on svt till now but don't know
they totally are most of them are comparing suga and scoups , it's all armies drama none of the netizens because in korea they are wishing him speedy recovery
@@avishijoshi5292 there are literally so many in this comment section itself 😭 what more do you wanna see? the situation is 100x worse on twt and insta bcs armys are being f**king VILE towards him
The doc who check him up:
Do you think im lying?
Edit: again i got a lot of likes ty guys
FR😆 korea is now more strict so how can he lie international fans are being more triggered than k fans
You think the doctor who checked heechul was lying. Even he served his country
@@pa1ak_7 yeah I know it was a car accident and he fractured his left leg and healed and he passed the exam but Scoups got torn ACL and you're never going to get the same range of movement ever again you will feel everytime you try to do something and he got grade 5 which is why he can't serve or do public service.
@@pa1ak_7 broo if dude has no humar
@@pa1ak_7 Do you even know what ACL is !?
Like what's wrong with you people?? He wasn't the one who exempted himself from the military but the government did . If you have any problem go ask the government,stop sending hate to him🫡
They have lost all humanity
He is the one
@@cartoonworld4140then you should’ve stopped him from getting exempted what were doing that time??? 🙄
@@aksharach312 i agree..so bad of them 🙄
@@cartoonworld4140 you think one man can exclude himself from a nation wide recruiting system just because?? Military doctors were the ones to make the call, the same happens with conscription in my country, everyone who gets drafted has multiple exams and physical tests run on their bodies before getting accepted.
I am an ARMY too
..I cannot understand these toxic ARMYs..because of these toxic fans BTS gets defamed..How can anyone say Scoups is faking his injury?! Do these fans really know how worse ACl injury can be ?? As a medical student I can confirm..with ACL injury one can not join military..just wash the dust on your brain and then accuse someone...Y'all getting so toxic nowadays..RM said exactly right
..ARMYs have changed...
@@praneethamudedla9729 I'm really sorry to pop your little bubble off, but what SHE said was true, the toxic part of our fandom is getting out of hands, and yeah i saw my own tl and even if you go through the comments here, they are blaming Scoups for the same. And most importantly i get you that it hurts to look back at the time Yoongi was getting dragged, but it's not always important to fucking "clAp BaCk"?? Have some common sense can they? And those who are saying that "he can do the desk job" no he cannot. It's a fucking RULE MADE BY GOVERNMENT OF KOREA. Anyong with an ACL problem are EXEMPTED, if anyone likes it or not. Even if he gets better, he won't have to serve since THATS the LAW.
@@al1z444fr as a caratarmy these toxic armys need to use some brain if they have one!
@@praneethamudedla9729 lol you don't even know they were scams to start fanwars.
@@praneethamudedla9729 and even one of them were carats do we have to blame the whole fandom and hate the idol? And when it come to armys you guys just make one excuse " they were not real armys they were the toxic ones" omfg I'm so tired of this. Even when armys hate on someone I don't even say that cause more than 40% of our fandom is toxic. And hoe are you gonna explain when mingyu got hate just become he spent a night I jks home and for not being Tae? You guys just make everything of yourself!
@@praneethamudedla9729 since 2018 and?
We know you guys are jobless but we never expect yall to stoop this low 💀
For real…….. it hits me hard when they’ll make this kinds of content and act all innocent by asking question at the end……
I'm not even a fan but if the military exempt you, I think there's a big reason why, especially if they don't do that often
I wonder why they didn't exempted heechul for his grade 5 surgery.
did he recover a long lime before the entlistment or not?@@pa1ak_7
It depends on where he got his surgery done and if it can pose problem for physical abilities and such too@@pa1ak_7
@@pa1ak_7since you are unaware here you go "According to South Korea’s conscription system, men in Grade 5 are exempt from mandatory military service during peacetime. In the case of a war, they are required to perform labor in support of the military."
@@pa1ak_7not you being under every comment? screams obssessed bitch behaviour. anyways, go ask the government.
i don’t think ppl understand how hard it is to be exempted from military service, and how serious an ACL injury is. we are lucky that scoups is able to return to activities now, because usually ACL injuries can take years to recover from. i wish scoups a speedy recovery and i hope he isn’t upset by the people saying he’s faking it ❤️❤️
Military enlistment is a big matter in S. korea and there's no fools sitting in military if they announced there must be serious problem.
We should protect scoups, carats will always love you💎
Yes!
Yep!
How can they hate s.coups for literally an injury. They are hating him instead of being worried about him.I don't even know how nowadays neitizens are just hating idols for literally nothing. I am tired of this. And also military service is more harder than singing. I wish he get better soon. Don't worry s.coups don't cry i and carats loves you.❤
The worst thing anyone can do is hating on seventeen
Like legit one of the most unproblematic idols in kpop
@@avishijoshi5292ikr
@@avishijoshi5292Exactly..
People stop finding non existent faults in you idols. The dude hurt his leg let him be.
⚠️‼️I love how y'all are acting! Every South Korean man with Acl injury is categorised under Grade5 despite the result of the surgery and completely exempted from military and social services and unfit to be in military, a lot of korean men in military with acl injuries get retired or dismissed for lifetime, only required to serve during war time. Argue with the wall if you find it double standards!!!! After recovery he'll dance and perform his @ss off and nobody can stop him, it's his efforts and choice!! Educate yourself! If you still continue to hate then you just lack Empathy and Morals!‼️⚠️
Yk heechul also had grade 5 yet he served his country?????
@@pa1ak_7okay and? scoups won't. accept it and get over it
@@pa1ak_7 there is no proof of him getting a grade 5. Its impossible to serve in grade 5. Its literally mentioned in the LAW. Where are getting youre fake info from???? What does it give to you to blindly hate a person who doesn’t know you???????
@@pa1ak_7 and now you're dragging him as well.. You know? None of your business?? Him going to military or not won't affect your life so kindly shut up!
@@pa1ak_7heechul heechul heechul omg gurl can’t you just shut up for once
No wonder why other fandoms find your fandom toxic!
Pledis made it very clear in the announcement that *" SCOUPS WILL COMEBACK IN APRIL BUT WILL B HAVING LIMITED PERFORMANCE"* which means he wont b actively able to jump around in the concert like he used to do b4... His entire knee movement range is limited cuz of the injury which means it will affect him for a long run...
Ppl shouldn't rly b this mean whn DOCTORS themselves checked him up + (i heard) there's actually a MILITARY LAW for acl injured ppl...
ITS ALWAYS “ACCORDING TO NETIZENS” Netizens are just fans that think they know what they’re talking about but they don’t, because who lies about a injury?
What a good day to ruin people's moods. Can always trust Armys for this work. What a shame to be part of this toxic fandom🙄
Am so embarrassed
Fr fr
Pls remember that you are a human before a fandom…dont lose your humanity pls…very sad to see ppl lose their humanity just because their bias is in the military and others ppl get exempted due to ACL….
Preachh
Dear human don’t beg in front of these buggers. They’re good for nothing bro. All of their content is about spreading hate if you’ve noticed.
Omg , just let him breath bro leave him alone
Comparing dancing to something like military training is pathetic....
Suga's injury is grade 4 , while Scoups's is grade 5
Men with grade 5 injury are exempted from military and are only called on during war time.
Educate yourself before saying anything...
Carats send this video to bts wervere to see their fans how evil they are
Everyone here talking about suga the fact that suga's injury was grade 4 and he HAD to do public service as per the order of the government and scoup's injury is literally grade 5 and he is exempted by the government like brooo s coups or his company aint got no power to exempt from the mandatory military service
Can you pls tell me what is grade 4 and 5 injury
@@avishijoshi5292 the Korean government does a health checkup before enlisting anyone in the military and rank them grade 1 indicates that the person is healthy and thus has to serve in the military grade 4 indicates that the person is not very well and cannot be enlisted but they are healthy enough for performing public services and serve in war grade 5 indicates the person isn't healthy enough to either serve in the military or do public services hence they are exempted yet they have to serve during any war
@@SugandhaJha-qp7ny s coups is grade 5 right
Fr leave him alone bro . Like the worst thing anyone can do is hating on svt
@@avishijoshi5292 yes scoups is grade 5 and he is exempted by the government he did not ask for exemption himself these armies be hating others in the name of defending "mY iDoL"
armys can go join bts in the military.
fr 😭
Seriously 😭😭
lmfaooo
IJBOL 💀😭
Gurl srsly 😂 like they don't make any sense
how is ur fandom literally not embarrassed by people like u
??
@@Maycyveyes, any problem ?
@@jdfjdnjkewbfuwihnioerjeo4jryes...I have problem...tell your army frnd to keep this toxicity to your own Fandom....it will be seriously worse if you armys try to say bullsh*t about our s.cuops
@@ArunKumar-ek5eh girl wtf? whatever i typed was for armys, why on earth did u think it was addressed to u? and when the fuck did i say anything bad about scoups, r u blind ?? i'm a carat man gtfo that was literally addressed to armys
@@ArunKumar-ek5eh i’m a carat and whatever i typed was addressed to armys what’s wrong w u….
So they actually think that government of korea will let him go easily even if he is lying 🤦♀️
I mean it's pretty obvious that before exempting him from military services they definitely investigate his condition
And if they are thinking he did it on purpose so NO ONE CAN HURT THEMSELVES THIS MUCH BADLY INTENTIONALLY JUST FOR EXEMPTING FROM MILITARY SERVICES
the comments here were making me so disgust .. i won't lie at this point i really wanted to see you comment.....how can they be so inhumane to someone and talks about karma
@@twoteen_hamster nowadays netizens are crossing their limits just for hating idols
@@dreamplace1004especially these armies they are even saying he is coward , not like they know how he manage his group and fight for them nor they know how hard it must have been for him
@@twoteen_hamster fr.... they always like to compare bts with every single kpop groups even if it's not necessary
In X they are hating s.coups like he committed an serious crime
Hi, its me again. This whole situation is such a mess. If only this fandom had more mature people, I wish.
This topic is starting to annoy me 🙄 Like, a fucking doctor + the law prohibits him from doing military service. And also social work. He took a damn test and failed because of his injury. I really don't know why so many people hate him now. Like, what should he do? To mess with the doctor or the law? Those up there have decided he can't take up his duties and that's it. Yes, it's unfortunate that it was announced quite quickly that he was coming out of his break. Still, do we know if he will dance again? It may sound unbelievable, but as an idol, dancing isn't his only job. What's wrong with him starting to sing and rap again? Besides, you can't possibly compare dancing to training in the military. And now to those who bring BTS back into the game. Yes, it sucks that Carats (who wasn't one at the time) supposedly put Suga down like that because of his injury, but you really want to fight fire with fire? Especially because S.Coups can't even do anything about it. Do you think Suga would praise you if you trashed a colleague on his behalf? You can be bitter about what Carats did to you, but the path some of you are choosing is truly pathetic.
lets be real those who hated suga can't be considered as a carat neither these army's hating s.coups should be considered as army ....at this point its so pathetic
So many people hate him? So many Armys hate him, let's rephrase that 😂
'according to netizens' or according to your nonesense assumptions ? Damn, my man is injured so bad and why would he lie about it. Let my man free and get some rest.
"according to netizens" nah it's according to toxic armys.
Ikr that's all lie here
take it up with the korean military@VaishuThakur-kr9oz
@VaishuThakur-kr9oz womp womp
literally y'all military wives only cried exemption bc y'all think they're so famous korea abt to die without them. suddenly y'all claim injuries of those members and act like a victim when called out. double standards my ass, go develop your brain or something
How you know its army hating on him ?
Because its them @@avishijoshi5292
You're not Scoups, you don't know what he went through in his current situation. Yes, he's coming back this March, but his movements are still limited. You don't have the right to say that he's faking his injury if you don't know anything about his injury. Be mindful, it's not that hard.
The person that posted the video is just letting others know what the Netizens said it’s the netizens that are at fault.
@@Nisha_xo knets are literally supporting him. Telling him to take care of himself. It's literally just the armies criticizing him
@@tanishthajaiswal8928 oh ok cause I also seen a few people in the comments talking about the army’s as well I guess the person that posted it got mistaken by calling the army’s “Netizens”
@@Nisha_xo girl trust me it was intentional
@@tanishthajaiswal8928 but we don’t know that persons true intentions only God knows so let’s just leave it at that.
I'm a physiotherapist who dealt with many about 50 ACL patient of all age and different grades. Only in severe cases surgery is done. Many of you saying once he recover he can join military and let me tell you the after effects of acl is permanent. When acl breaks the stability of knee is affected and military training is very hard and require 100% strength. Moverver you are not at all qualified enough to pass your judgement. No medical experience no opinion.
Who said he was going to be dancing? Joining a comeback doesn’t mean he will be dancing.
and do you realize how rigorous military training is compared to dancing?
No matter what position he would have, he would have to train. The military themselves exempted him. It wasn’t his choice to be exempted.
What kind of creatures are present here 😢they seriously lost humanity
At this point they aren't even a human to start with
Ifkr
This is so bad I lost my grandfather due to health issues and here seeing people saying it's karma and all like whattt they are stupid broo I am 17 but our generation literally suck tbh they all lost humanity 😢 how can someone make fun of health issues even they are comparing too 😢
@@BTSPAVEDTHEWAYYYYY_07 lots of strength to you and your family 😞
@@KARINA.379 no it happened before 7 or 8 year ago now my family is fine ,but that time my grandmother suffered alot 😭😭 thank you for your concern 😊
Why would he be lying?? He got exempted from military, just imagine how serious the injury is… military service is harder than performing on stage.. we should be supporting Scoups and seventeen rn ❤️
I feel bad for him😢😢
I can feel his pain❤😭😭
Ikr😔
How can he lie about his injury? Man these neitizens need better excuses to come up with, their way too free nowadays.
WTF is wrong with the people .
HE WENT FOR PHYSICAL EXAMINATIONS REQUIRED FOR MILITARY SERVICES. THE EXAMINERS ANNOUNCED THAT HE IS NOT FIT FOR TRAINING . How many times do they have to rectify. It was the examination reports which say he is unfit not him.
Put yourself in his shoes and then consider, when u r injured u don't even move from your bed and asking him to serve MILITARY, a healthy person cannot handle the military hardships and u r asking a injured person to serve🤬
Please stop hating scoups for not get enlistment in military because of his injury and please don't compare with suga please toxic army stop spreading hate to him he is still recovering please send him love and please support him
Even in my country, people with injuries like that are not qualified to enlist. The training is way³ intense than dancing. 🤦♀️
Stupid question🙄😒
Basic armpit, he is injured and you should accept that, stop using netizens as away to hate on kpop idols
Don't touch my Scoups... fullstop!!!!!
Give the poor man a breather...just be gald that he's getting better
with all due disrespect.... shut up and leave these people alone. I am sick of all the complaints these people are getting for being human, just leave them alone
average army behavior. everyone only knows armys bc they're problematic af. i hope pledis finds u
bro the armys were treated the same
@@BTSbulliesyourfavesoncharts not by carats lmao, everyone showing the same 3-4 screenshots of trolls and dummy accounts.
stop justifying hate by hate, that's such a loser behavior
@@r__nyday Idc
BTS was hated a lot for not going in the military
Be it a carat or not
@@BTSbulliesyourfavesoncharts that type of logic is literally why armys are always problematic. poor bts
@@r__nyday Poor you!
You don't really get it, do you?
1.Scoups is not the first person to exemption from military. There have been other artist too, like Ahn heo seop, Kim woo bin, Seo in guk, etc. Exemption from military is not decided by themselves infact there are certain criteria set by kgovt and military that you have too full fill to get that exemtion and if Scoups got exempted it means he didn't full fill the criteria.
2.Those dumb idiots who think that he can lie and get away with it need some working brain cells because not serving permanent military( without any reason) is a crime in Sk and no person with right mind would do it. There was a person who skipped his service was literally banned by the whole country and recently an idol has been caught lying and facing chargers.
3Also I personally think these international kpop fans should have no right to say anything in this. This is about their military not some entertainment event where you can bug in whenever you want. There are so many rules and things that I kpop fans don't know about and commenting on something that you don't know is another way of proving yourself dumb. Let korean military decide whether its right or wrong.
4.Just because your oppa didn't got exempted doesn't mean you will hate others who got it
"according to netizens" nah we all know.
Fr😭🖐🏻
I hate kpop stans who think they know everything about Korea only by looking through net. Korean fans are all wishing him fast recovery bcz they know being exempted from military means it's not a minor injury. Shame on those people for throwing hate. They have no heart.
Really
How is he lying?! He's been sitting out of group activities since august ladt year. He missed out a lot of activities, even big ones such as unesco, because of his injury! He missed their cb promotion, tours, nanatour, etc.
Some of you cant really understand how badly injured he is! He was given grade 5 by medical experts! He was assessed by professionals. His participation in group activities can be adjusted based on his health status. Pledis notice even pointed out that their participation may be limited and that there might be activities and choreographies that they need to sit out. Whereas in military, that cant be done! Even if he is assigned in office, he still need to go basic military training like everyone else!
U even add expressions like 😅what a good acting. U are no longer sharing the news. Theses expressions are made by u. Biased news
I hope and believe ur opinion is wrong
He got the permission from the Govt of South Korea so there is no point of lying and many koreans actors are also exempted from military training like-Kim woo bin,Seo In Guk, Jo Jung Suk,Ahn Hyo Seop to name a few🫠🫠
Scoups can never lie to carats we trust him❤
I just hate how some FAKE and SO-CALLED ARMYS are commenting shit about Scoups.. I just have one Question. MAN! Can you even be his 1%!?
As an army myself, I just really want to ask u why you're doing this like why u have to be so insensitive about Scopus.
Not all army's are good bro....some are as shitty as this creater
Being an ARMYCARAT i can say that it's really shameful for both the whole fandom for you to post such videos... 1stly you are taking down the name of the fandom ARMY, coz because of some of you people others are hating BTS and ARMY as your channel name is related to BTS. 😠 And unfortunate to say such people do not belong to ARMY who spread unnecessary hate towards other idols!!
2ndly military service is far more than performing on stage! I have seen some comparing Suga from BTS and Scoups from SVT... Like seriously! We who are in the fandom truly know that they both were injured at times... Suga got his shoulder injury and had surgery in 2020 which he recovered much and it was his own decision to join the military service and he is also unfit for the regular combat duty according to the rules due to his injury for which he went as a social service agent.
And about SCoups, were you the doctor who treated him! How can you say that the injury is not much severe... He obviously need time to recover himself... And we Carats also have seen him performing in shows but in wheelchair or with some support to stand!
And 3rdly.. what is your concern that what others idols are doing! For views!! If you can't respect them just don't hate them... No one asked for your opinion.. cause by this you are not only gaining some views but also hates and some reports!😑
So please stop hating other in the name of BTS and ARMY !! Or change your channel name and do whatever you want no one cares, cause it would be only you who can gain reports!!!!🙄
As a carat most of my friends are army and I’m so damn sure that ppl who are pretending to be army like this is ruining it all. Not only army there are trashy fans every where ruining every fandom. Even fake carats. Idols are performers and we’re supposed to be the fans who enjoy it. We don’t have to fight each other and ruin the fun . We are all here for the fun right. I hate seeing ppl like this bro
@@certifiedcarat yeah you are right
@@Anna-Db-05 let’s just keep supporting our precious idols and have fun fam. It’s waste of energy to use on them
Thank u.I hope all amrys would be like u
The worst fandom: ARMY
Agreeing as an army+carat, especially this one makes my blood boil
Who gonna care whatever they say. We love SCoups and support him ❤
At least he is performing for you guys in this pain
He doing for free or your charity account
@@clino137 what??
@@clino137 he is doing it for fans not for earning money
Even if he wouldn't have performed he would still get money from his agency but instead of resting he is ready to perform for his fans .
You know you are the dumbest person on this earth if you have svt
He's not going to be performing!! His comeback is limited. he's not going to be dancing and jumping around like he used to, okay?
y'all acting as if carats were the only one hating on suga,there were numerous other groups..
none of the carat here ever said what happened with suga was right but y'all have to involve him everywhere..
and the audacity you have to DEFEND Cyber Bullying And Mass Hating under the excexcuse of Karma..
good job armies, one on side you say not only armies are hating but its majority of you people..
nice, keep making your fandom worse than it already is
Glad i left that brain dead fandom.
Me too. I've been happy ever since with stray kids and seventeen
Some Y'all saying yoongi was hated back then and s coups deserves the karma is so loosing morals over kpop and your faves...
Hes NAWT GONNA DO BACKFLIP, SUMMER SAULTS OR ANY OTHER HEAVY MOVES AS IT TAKES LONG TO RECOVER. hes in rehab. And those who hated yoongi and scoups left and right, i tell you guys are TOXIC ONES, both armys and carats. You guys better change that toxic trait of yours rather than sending hate.
I m not just telling this to Armys but to those carats as well. No one is welcomed or have the right to send any hate. You're no one to do that.
Tell that to your fandom who shitted on yoongi for years. On all of the boys , tbh. And while you are at it, go report your co fandom "besties" users @cisnys and @chuckflaptail for doxxing people and encourage their followers to send mails to their jobs, to harras their families on socmed and tag their works spaces. Morals over kpop? Call out your fandom.1st.
@@jiminflyingatsunset of course i will report all the toxic ones. Did you not read the part where I mentioned "both Army's and carats" ? Chill I was telling both the fandoms hun
@@jiminflyingatsunset and yes I still stand by the "morals over kpop" bc talking shit about an injured person is not right. Again I m saying this to both carats and Armys. Okay now? And fyi I belong to both the fandom
See we are not saying suga deserve it we have whole sympathy with suga and as you know sk government give them their services according to their condition for suga they give him office work and since s.coups injury is pretty serious and fresh so they give him exempt
And i am extremely sorry behalf of those carats who hate bts for this i love and respect bts as a carat i am so sorry behalf of them but it's doesn't mean you will also become same and start hating svt instead of that teach those immature carats how to behave
I believe scoups don't lying about this surgery 😢😢 i always support my svt's idols
As an ARMY myself I'm ashamed that people like you are doing to others the same thing that BTS went through. Toxic people spreading stories to hurt others behind the whole "i'm protecting BTS" agenda while BTS members themselves only spread positivity.
Do better.
As someone whos father fought in the military, theese people dont know NAYTHING about how hard it is innthe military compared to jyst dinging and dancing
Social services exist
@@pa1ak_7and he STILL can't serve there as he has a grade 5 injury and it's the GOVERNMENT who exempt him from any ms!!!! you keep acting like it's his own decision. fed up of this toxicity and immaturity
@@pa1ak_7 and studying also exists. please go back and do the calculus, stop bringing armies defame everywhere
@@pa1ak_7 panner
palak paneer..u happy now?...go study
ias vias bano maa baap ka naam roshan kroooo
@@pa1ak_7 you still do basic training for those, pls think before commenting.
Netizens need to wash their mind
@@rajeshkohli7988 and k popies too cause they once backlash and criticise suga and bts members alot for this....
@@rajeshkohli7988wth, how armys came in that matter? Y'all are literally so obsessed with us
@@rajeshkohli7988 you need to wash your mind to get rid of impurities and toxins from your mind
@@rajeshkohli7988and you need to decrease your obsession with armys
@@rajeshkohli7988ofcourse
Yes he's lying,
The person have been suffering from a long time, cancelling events to get rest is lying, isn't it?
And Performance is not the same as Serving for the country...
Let the dawgs bark...
What is wrong with these people ?? Do they not understand that he was injured and just recovered
There is a difference with dancing and being in military
Why does that certain fandom care so much. Scoups could barely walk on his own like two months ago this man clearly is not in any physical shape to do any sort of military training! I guess some of us don’t understand how severe an acl injury really is.
May he become healthy🥺
To the people saying he can do social work like suga, ofc bro he can but what he can do if medical staff categorized his injury under grade 5. Exemption is not something you can get, it is given by medical professionals and military law. If they declare him unfit for any kind of services what he can do. Injured people under grade 5 get exemption, its a law, you want him to go against the law. If you all have problem then question this law not s coups. Its not like he go to them and said that i have acl injury and they accept it . They examine him. Medical professionals are not fool that they give him exemption. Rules and regulations are made up by professionals very carefully and after full research. And if he can or can not do service even after rest, the one examine him will decide. And about concert we all wait and see what type of activity he will do on stage. And if he will do extreme steps on stage then it is going to be harmful for himself. And if carats dont have any problem of him being on stage only singing not dancing then people who havent invest money or time on him dont need to worry. And even if you did every persons carrer end one day so from now on dont invest your money or time if you dont want
And there is difference between performing on stage and mandatory service. If something happens on stage they can take immediate action but you know rules of military are very strict. Once they give you any task you have to complete it like if they told you to run 10 laps of ground you have to do it no matter what. I know they are asking him to do social service but i just give an example that rule of mandatory service are strict.
I just want to say he cant go to them and zay that no i will do service when they declare him unfit for this. If suga was unfit for service, he also could get exemption.
scoups underwent TWO reconstructions (acl and antolateral ligament) in his left knee. it is a MAJOR surgery. he was given level 5 in the physical examination.
also, he's MEDICALLY advised to still carry out his schedules AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T PUT TOO MUCH STRAIN on his body!
When south korean people have no problem with scoups then why the some people who are not even korean have problem🤔
I'm not his fan and in a part of seventeen's fandom but I just want to say that I don't think he's lying. He knows what would cause him. I think he is the one who really wants to participate the military service if he could. People are so mean, they have no idea that he is the one who is suffering from this situation that he can't do anything and change at all. These people are really heartless.
thnkusmmm for believing in him 💕💕
He's not lying and it's not netizens but you who's spreading misinformation 😑
no, like seriously don't y'all have anything better to do???...to think there are people like this w no conscience and has the audacity to blame coups for his injury is really sad
honestly, I feel like the people who doubt his injury should try having a ACL injury while trying to do military service and see how long they last..people always think they know more than doctors and Korean people..
'Netizens'. Nope no one but ARMYs.
S.Coups ain't lying no one... This is just rumor and some hater found this side for hate but we carats are really and we all trust S.coups... He is the best and he never say lie with his health and I want to say one thing. Not expexct all but some ''Army'' i.e Fake army say trash rumors about S.coups and they're all stupid, fake in this life. Fake ARMY please leave Fandom bcz you only hate for BTS & Army and also S.coups. S.coups and Suga are different from each other and don't worry S.coups will join military service bcz He is real man and he never find trash lie!!!!! Got it
Bro even with his broken leg at least we get him back. I’d choose him to be with the group! Fans should be happy his back!
Fans are happy he's back, salty people whose faves didn't get exempted are hating on him.
Idk why these creators are still not reported.
He isn't lying
Just leave him alone 😑
SCoups doesn't need to prove anything to anyone. He doesn't need to come forward and say he is saying the truth. He isn't going to serve in the millitary and that's final. Y'all can stay pressed as much as you want.n
Aren't u ashamed of urself?for falsely accusing?if u only got the injury u willknow!!
he isn't lying.
Those who are saying it's Karma and defending cyber bullying as a justification for the previous actions of toxic carats...... please know that go a hate those toxic carats no one's going to bat an eye....but making jokes and passing demeaning statements about someone's extremely serious injury isn't a justifiable action under any circumstances......(do you think hating and disrespecting S.coups will make Suga happy? Idiots....if you think that you're just disrespecting your own idol my portraying him as a cruel inhuman being)
I guess people who are saying that S.coups is lying... That people's are indirectly saying that military services of South Korea are lying
This video just makes everyone angry and upset... As a carat I wanna fight. I can't control my temper level after seeing this video 😶... Why would our leader will fake it???.... Are you guys jealous or something that your favs are going to military but scoups isn't????... Please stop tjis. Why would anyone fake about a serious injury..?? We know his pain so please stop spreading unnecessary hate towards him 🙏😣
Lol yeah scoups came to her and tell her privately that he is faking👽 do things that make sense
Funny this came from a toxic army with ID BTSforever LOL
Bro if u think his lying u don’t have to spread rumors let scoups live his life
Love the comment sections 😂❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
This is why i love carat random......!! ❤❤❤
Uri caratdulll cuppsarangheee.... ❤
Yeah ....initially seeing the video....I was really angry....but seeing carats defending coups made me feel little relaxed
He deserves the world, here after months and he's so hard on himself, just because he shows on stage he's okay doesn't mean he is and and a ACL injury takes so much time to fully recover but he came back on his feet so fast just because of the pressure he received. I really wish he doesn't go hard on himself and as a carat, i can assure that carats will always support our leader no matter what he doesas long as he's happy and healthy. I just wish the best for him 🤍🍒💎
Okay then even the reports are lying okay then are you even saying that the person who check it is also lying why don't netizens just become doctor and tell then
I don't care about what people going. I believe in S. Coups. He can't lie about such a serious thing. And if they have no solid proof they shouldn't just jump to conclusions and be calling him a liar
What if the same happened with BTS would you be hating on them like this off course not right. Just because we carats DON'T SAY anything that doesn't mean you'll dance on our head so dear *teenager armies* stop hating and study instead of hating.
It did happen tho, they called suga names for not being able to do normal enlistment. But this does not excuse the hate that coups is getting… they have to stop
@@xia8696 some immature armies or i can those girlies who have 1 or 2 bias have hated Suga too that i know(they shouldn't) but they should keep there hate to their fandom instead of hating those idols whom they don't even know about. We carats know what he have been through just because of his injury he wasn't able to go for NANA tour for which he was so happy and excited earlier he wished to go there but couldn't. He'll be joining concerts just because of our happiness.
Don't play so dirty that later you will regret it......
In which ever Fandom you belong plz don't lose your humanity
Scoups is a person who is honest to his work and duties ......
And yes we are here for him......
Guys my finger had a fracture (a minor)I couldn't do anything,So how tf is he going to serve military if his leg is fractured 😶😶
Have some simpathy and don't hate him.
As a multistan I feel really bad
😢😢