Averaging is not bad in good fundamental stocks but keeping stops loss is bad. His explanation of averaging is from a trader point of view and not for not for investors
Bang on, was about to comment and see you have already. Value investing is finding cos trading lower than their fair worth and in this process the price may be trending down before the upturn
Your logic and examples hold true only if you use this technique in fundamentally weak stocks.. Using the averaging technique in fundamentally strong stocks helps in getting better ROI..
My experience was we can average the stocks one which was strong, undervalued & debt free companies...like this of stocks if it is fall defenetly within no time it will reverse.
The idea of investing a significant sum of money may be both thrilling and intimidating. There is potential for considerable wealth increase with the correct strategy. How can one take advantage of compound interest and potentially grow your retirement savings/net-worth to about $3M over time?
the strategies are quite rigorous for the regular-Joe. As a matter of fact, they are mostly successfully carried out by pros who have had a great deal of skillset/knowledge to pull such trades off.
Even with the right strategies and appropriate assets, investment returns can differ among investors. Recognizing the vital role of experience in investment success is crucial. Personally, I understood this significance and sought guidance from a market analyst, significantly growing my account to nearly a million. Strategically withdrawing profits just before the market correction, I'm now seizing buying opportunities once again.
I just Googled her name and her website came up right away. It looks interesting so far. I'm going to book a call with her and let you know how it goes.Thanks
Thank u for saving my time. These tubers make me lose my time by making a complex 30 min video to express a simple idea 💡 which u expressed in a simple sentence above. Thank u.
After listening to this guy i bought a stock and it went 30% up i used pyramid then it went 60% down which lead me to have more loss 😢 than previous investment. And a stock which i have not used pyramid and avg it at low prices it gave super returns. Though it made me feel cry for some months😅.
things are just opposite for me..the moment i stopped averaging stocks and instead add to winning stocks i started earning money from my investments much faster..simple reason is how big the company is ...a falling stock recovers much late than a winning stock moving upwards..
I fully agree to your upward averaging concept and I admit having gained a lot from pyramiding. Today only with the help of pyramiding i.e. buying, buying and buying my winning stocks with their rising prices, I have been able to accumulate good Company 's shares and my portfolio is very healthy. Thanks a lot. 😊
I am at the beginning of my "investment journey", planning to put 185K into dividend stocks so that I will be making up to 30% per year in dividend returns. Any advice?
Adding JEPI and JEPQ are smart additions in my opinion. As for staying committed to long-term investments, it's all about balancing your risk tolerance with your long-term goals.
The market's instability makes DIY risky. You don't need to find the next NVDA to succeed in investing. Opt for top-notch ETFs, dividend aristocrats, and a trusted advisor. I've turned $100k into $20k in annual dividends, a major milestone.
*Jennifer Leigh Hickman* has always been on the top of my list..She is regarded as a genius in her area and well knowledgeable about financial markets. I highly recommend her if you want excellent collaboration.
Bhaiii...itna hi dar lagta he to share market me aana hi nahi chahiye...if you dont averages out in fundamentally good company then you will not be able to make money...if you add money at higher and higher level you end up loosing money😂😂😂 kese kese log aa jaate he youtube pe
Bhai tu bahut emotional hai... he is saying correct only... if you buy at the right price you should only average up even if it is good fundamental company
Always average up. Only follow price. That's what the world's best traders do. You have no clue about trading.... quick to identify a noob.... kaise kaise log comment karte hai you tube par
Did math on ‘buy the dip’ oppose to buy the stock at increased price @8:19 5*90 = 450 15*80 = 1200 30*70 =2100 Total shares I own = 100+5+15+30=150 Total investment 3750 +10000 =13,750 My average is 91.6!!😃 If stock increases to 250 per share today then 150*250=37,500 Your average per share is 125😌 in future if stock reaches down to 125 you are under loss but I’m in gains
Thanks dear for such a valuable information. Because of averaging I was loosing a lot , now I know how to recover the loss. ईश्वर आपको ऐसे ही स्वास्थ्य और दीर्घायु बनाए रखे
I just hit $100,000 net worth this last quarter from saving and i plan to invest in the stock market to see it grow in the next 3 years. What is the best way to navigate the stock market as a newbie?
I believe a healthy portfolio has 3 things, at the bare minimum: Exposure to ETFs for increased diversification, Exposure to assets that generate cash flow like dividend stocks, Exposure to market-leading tech.
Consider allocating 30-40% to a High-Yield Savings Account (HYSA) and enlisting the help of an advisor to diversify into positions with the rest of your capital. My advisor has significantly impacted my financial journey, fostering clarity and confidence in the stock market. Thanks to her guidance, I've grown my portfolio from $100k to $1.4m in just 5 years.
She goes by ‘AMBER KAY WRIGHT’ I suggest you look her up. To be honest, I almost didn't buy the idea of letting someone handle growing my finance, but so glad I did
I'm impressed with your advisor's prompt response and expertise. Her clarity and professionalism instilled confidence from the start. Excited to explore opportunities together! Thank you.
The best strategy is the close to the bottom of the drop, the bottom of the drop - middle of steadiness, and the bottom of the rise. This has helped me gain great amounts of profits throughout a cycle.
Just to prove his point he shows that that the stock is falling continuously. A stock cannot continue to fall only , there will be a time when it will have uptrend. So if you have spare money to invest and you are invested in a fundamentally good stock then average at every 10% fall. He is saying that market does work on hope and expectations but market does not goes down only and vice versa.
"Pyramiding" can also be done when the particular stock and market in general is going down. You can allocate smaller and smaller amounts and keep adding on the way up as well. JIO FIN was a perfect example of this. Trying to build a long term position, I started to buy at an all time high and then averaged both going down and on the way up. Worked well for this particular stock and point in time
You were saying market doesn't work on expectation for averaging. But, when you are talking about pyramiding, you are talking as if your investments would go up as you are EXPECTING. Wow
In my experience averaging over 6 to 1 year period on fundamentally strong stocks worked out beautifully and got me around 20 to 25% returns in 6 to 8 months period.
Averaging in NBCC fetched me good profit. During last budget NBCC shot up one day and I bought 100 shares of NBCC at 169 it went up to 172 but then started falling almost every day. Lastly I had 400 shares at an average of 142 ! It was then traded at around 121. Then one day as soon as it came down to 112 I bought 600 shares and decided not to average any more. But from then it started rising. Lastly I made exit from it at an average of 133 gaining Rs.3500. This is a story of a very small investor like me! I used to average in almost all cases. But tried to purchase prospective shares. And in this upward market I am sure to get profit in all cases. I respect your idea too.
In a volatile market you will hit stop loss again and again and after falling stock will again rise and again fall, pyramid strategy will be a disaster in volatile market. However not falling in love with stock is a great advice!
In pyramiding you grew the stock by 50% and by 100%. And as mentioned by you, you only do it for nifty 200. The companies in Nifty 200 generally take more than 3 years to grow by 100%.
I have been in Markets from 8 years and i have got the transition from 2 generations of Market - they never told avoid averaging - They always told me one thing - Enter with only 25% in non f&o stock if f&o 50% of whatever i want invest. Then at every 1% down I'll add 10% of remaining 50% so from the top i have added 50% at 10% lower the entry..
Puzzled by your theory, which may be applicable for intraday not for long term investment Construction of pyramid also starts of earth work from bottom and not on atop , my reference to solid companies, no one can catch the exact top or bottom price of a share in the market...
it depends on how much money you have. If you have considerable amount like institution then you know everything about company and the business. you know how much products are produced and and how much of that will get consumed. so when the target is achieved these institutions will start selling and normal investors will loose money by averaging. Investing in stock market is like running own business. you must know your market where you can sell, what are you going to produce, who will consume, how much you earn in how many years.etc.
I would never be able to time the market, I kept DCAing way up or way down providing strong fundamentals No debt Good cash flow Increasing revenue Good asset vs liability Good quarterly growth Effective management No competition Just invest and Forget!
Averaging (with no stoploss) & pyramiding (with stoploss) are done in stocks/indices which are going down or up respectively. In averaging you buy increasing number of stocks in order to average down your buying price, WITHOUT a stoploss.This might work well in fundamentally strong stocks going down due to a weak external environment or due to a temporary problem in the company. This might also work if you select a sectoral index/ETF which is going down due to factors mentioned above. Pyramiding might work well in stocks/indices which are in an upward momentum. Here you buy decreasing number of stocks on the way up, in order to take full advantage of the momentum in the stock WITH a stoploss to protect your capital.This should work well both for fundamentally weak and strong stocks which are in an upward momentum. So choose an appropriate stock in a suitable market trend to gain more profits.
When a stock falls but still the fundamentals are good, you will not fear but you will add more.....look at Yes bank. Even before the huge plummet their numbers started becoming bad......that is when you get out......if you have conviction in your analysis you will not get scared
He is telling truth.I am the example all my money stuck in the averaging the infosis but it is keep on going down but now I don't have the much money to invest in other stocks I already sold 50% of stocks with huge loss
You will regret your decision in 2-3 years and it was your mistake to buy it when it was overvalued.... ironically what this guy is telling to do buy overvalued stocks
I agree and i dont agree as well.... averaging is needed when you have a fundamentally strong share in your portfolio which is falling ... it will give high returns when stock gains speed again... so averaging is not bad... only bad when fundamental of that sto k is poor... Other side, pyramiding always needed when the same stock starts growing up... that way i get benefit of both sides.. So all in all, what is most important is that i should have enough money to invest in any situation
@Ajay Ajith: For swing traders, Is there any better way of handling crash like corona crash? If stocks open gap down much below our stop loss what should we ideally do? Can you make a video on this?
Upward averaging can wreck holdings if a bearish move occurs... Same for downward averaging. The only thing to consider for averaging is to do it only when you do not see any other better stocks in the market.
When we study the fundamentals and buy a share,we are going to monitor the company always. So if the share price is falling not due to the business going wrong, averaging will bring in multibagger returns. Hard earned money has to be invested only after careful study of the company business,not based on price fluctuations. Stop loss doesn't exist there
Very valuable advice. Average only in top 200 companies . But stoploss 3-5% depending on price of stock is good . In a volatile market 2% change is common . A bad news on sector brings 2% fall .
Also, if it is a fundamentally good stock, I don't like the idea of 'pyramiding'. If you have done your due diligence and find the stock good, you should buy the stock in every dip. Not sure why need to stagger the purchase
Averaging in strong stocks i am making money ... alot and i doubt this is fluke..because 18 years cant be fluke .I dont sell my strong shares so no stop loss for me .passive income is tge goal...and remove money only when marjet is all time high and only if there is need of funds.
Convincing arguments against averaging and in favour of pyramiding. But, wait for a second, stop loss is a bad idea for a long-term position holder one would lose more often(small loss limit) or a one-time loss (big loss limit). I have learned that if a company is a reputable and established entity, only then averaging is not a bad idea but if it drops by 25% or more. If it is not take the loss max. at 25% and run with your money. One scenario you can not avoid is if the stock suddenly falls 40-50% in a single day or abruptly. The bottom line is to never use averaging on a sick horse; which likely end up in bankruptcy or accrue further losses. Pyramiding is also not very safe, stock in an uptrend is more likely to reverse its trend. Recently, markets in general become less predictable and more ruthless.
Hey Ajay Good stagey I am hearing this is the first . If I already heard about it I won't invest huge money in falling share Like delta corp and bcg. If you don't mind can you give me a suggestion
Not clear,,what to do in case of falling stock values? What he said is buying smaller quantity in case of rising stocks,,, that's good, I used to do it,,but in case of fundamentally strong stocks, loss averaging is a good technique for the long run. In case of losing stocks, I try to get it out or hold it for the next happenings,,,of course for good stocks.
This logic is only applicable only for weaker or penny stocks. Consider company Like TCS who have grown every quarter with profit after profit on its operations not through assets … so it is good to buy 2-3 stocks every month for longterm and buy 10 if it falls too much due to some war going or entire market affected
If companies fundamentals are good then stock will most likely go up. So its not a hope. It’s just that we should read company fundamentals before investing in a company. I don’t think so that averaging is bad as long as company fundamentals remain solid.
Nobody can predict for sure on when to averaging and when to pyramiding. In my opinion, averaging can be good when the stock falls in tandem with the market momentarily in two or three days. If the stock is in downtrend continuously, better wait for trend reversal with two weekly green candles before averaging. Pyramiding with stoploss for capital protection may always be good in stock uptrend.
Hi friend, while pyramiding , what if the price of a stock falls below the first bought price ?. So, after studying the history of the stock movement, it's better to average the stock price as it falls & someday it starts recovering & can make profits.
Dont invest on price invest on business if business is doing well your price will mirroring or reflect on price vise versa research before investment and ask your self that whether your company can survive for next 10 years when your confidence will build on particular business your mind will not fluctuate and you will see that your invest will fetch fruit I will study a company if I find it suitable for me I will keep on buying for 2 years and give another 1 year means to see atleast 3 years you should give to any business remember you may go wrong dont biase accept you mistake and sell if it not giving you desire result after your cutoff time always try to find future business for huge return read Quarterly results management speach and balance sheet remember success in market is always right fight with you self if you passionate that your success rate will increase vise versa many more lesson I dont believe on stoploss which is trader word I believe on entry and exit.
Dis applies more for swing trading...In investing u don't need to pump your money in intervals...If identified a fundamentally strong stock den jst hold and follow quarter results...
I was holding polycab since IPO from 596 it reached 5000. Then there was a correction and it came to 3600 it was a golden opportunity to buy more but I also fell in this trap of not buying the falling knife today it's 7000 damn stupid mistake. Unless there is anything fundamentally wrong with the stock always average.... if your original investment thesis still plays unless you buy stocks for short term because real wealth creation is in long term I have countless examples of averaging working and not averaging a blunder.... Had tejas network at 330 it fell to 30 did not average its 700+(sold at breakeven😢) Got windlas in ipo at 460 it fell to 200 did not average now trading at 632(Still holding) Century ply bought at 240 came to 120 didn't average last time i saw was around 700 ( sold at breakeven) Now the craziest one had 100 shares in yes bank at 370 got stuck bought 3000 more in FPO at 12 rs was able to sell my position at 15k profit. However i don't recommended doing such things in fundamentally weak stocks Having said all that its worth buying fundamentally strong cos at higher levels
if you book the loss then only your realized loss is 3000, here we will wait till it reach 120 or 150. even it takes years also no problem. we will look the company worth of it then only we will put our money into it otherwise we won't buy 1st 100 stocks as well
Hi, I have an important question. Regarding Pyramiding the position on highs and adding new more stocks to already profitable one, I noticed the average buying price worry me lot. I noticed, the buying price of those stocks taken before pyramiding are now changing automatically to new higher average price after the adding. For example, I was sitting on 10 % profit and after pyramiding, my profits have suddenly gone down to just 5% and when the stock goes down, I lose all the profits I have made earlier because earlier I had 10 % buffer which now gone down to only 5 % . This is very difficult for somebody who was already in profit to see your position is already getting into loss. So what most traders do in such cases? Thanks
Sir Nagraj Strategy 2024 Mein Sahi hai? Matlab koi Yes Bank ya Vodafone jaise stocks Mein agar Nagraj ban ke baitha hoga instead of profit booking, Poora Loss Hota... Waqt Badal gaya, Haalath Badal Gaye Hain, isn't 3 to 4 yr profit booking and Rotation is better idea? 😢
Pyramiding only talks about increasing profit when you are already in profit (may be investor). Most of the case we go for averaging to get out of the stock early when stock falls to a quick dip. Doing averaging on a fundamentally strong stock gives its benefits as well.
bro i think you are really confused. 1) stop loss is not for investors, as the decision relies on value investing and the fundamentals of the stock and not on the price movement. 2) Top 50 stocks are generally blue-chips; next 150 are midcaps. so in top 200 stocks midcap comes.
A good video i must say but i will always prefer stocks. AI stocks will dominate 2024. Why I prefer NVIDIA is that they are better placed to maintain long term growth potential, and provide a platform for other AI companies. I know someone who has made more than 200% from NVIDIA. I'll also take these other recommendations you made.
I agree, just because the market presents opportunities doesn't mean we should rush in headfirst. For this reason, we should look for appropriate market analysis or guidance or, alternatively, seek advice from certified market strategists.
Having the right plan is invaluable, my portfolio is well-matched for every season of the market and recently hit 100% rise from early last year. I and my CFP are working on a 7 figure ballpark goal, tho this could take till Q3 2024.
One of my goals is to employ the service of one this year. I've seen some off Facebook but wasn't able to get a response. Could you recommend who it is you work with?
@@HilaryPhan I find this informative, curiously explored Vivian on the web, spotted her consulting page, and was able to schedule a call session with her, she shows quite a great deal of expertise from her resume.. very much appreciated
Averaging is not bad in good fundamental stocks but keeping stops loss is bad. His explanation of averaging is from a trader point of view and not for not for investors
Bang on, was about to comment and see you have already. Value investing is finding cos trading lower than their fair worth and in this process the price may be trending down before the upturn
Hmm thought so too
I did averaging in hdfc today will come back later to this comment and say if it went well
@@VasanthExploresI did averaging in next50 and sensex investment. I hope BJP will wins and stock price will bounce back. Let see what happens
Boss super reply and your are right. He is not setting any context before explaining any concept
Your logic and examples hold true only if you use this technique in fundamentally weak stocks.. Using the averaging technique in fundamentally strong stocks helps in getting better ROI..
Right, ye log confuse ho ke gyan batne aa jate hain.. 😀
He is talking about penny stocks
He just proves what a. Nonsense discussion the South Indians do in the IT companies No work Just Bakwas! 😂❤
Ab tumko yaha South/North dikh gaya. Kattue ho kya 😀
Well said👏
My experience was we can average the stocks one which was strong, undervalued & debt free companies...like this of stocks if it is fall defenetly within no time it will reverse.
Averaging is not a mistake
Great Mistake
Not at all
The idea of investing a significant sum of money may be both thrilling and intimidating. There is potential for considerable wealth increase with the correct strategy. How can one take advantage of compound interest and potentially grow your retirement savings/net-worth to about $3M over time?
the strategies are quite rigorous for the regular-Joe. As a matter of fact, they are mostly successfully carried out by pros who have had a great deal of skillset/knowledge to pull such trades off.
Even with the right strategies and appropriate assets, investment returns can differ among investors. Recognizing the vital role of experience in investment success is crucial. Personally, I understood this significance and sought guidance from a market analyst, significantly growing my account to nearly a million. Strategically withdrawing profits just before the market correction, I'm now seizing buying opportunities once again.
Mind if I ask you to recommend this particular coach you using their service? Seems you've figured it all out.
Tenley Megan Amerson . She is well known; you ought to look at her work.
I just Googled her name and her website came up right away. It looks interesting so far. I'm going to book a call with her and let you know how it goes.Thanks
21 years old lecturing about markets 👏🏽
I think the Pyramid strategy is also averaging. Some people will call it as upward averaging
Thank u for saving my time. These tubers make me lose my time by making a complex 30 min video to express a simple idea 💡 which u expressed in a simple sentence above. Thank u.
After listening to this guy i bought a stock and it went 30% up i used pyramid then it went 60% down which lead me to have more loss 😢 than previous investment.
And a stock which i have not used pyramid and avg it at low prices it gave super returns. Though it made me feel cry for some months😅.
things are just opposite for me..the moment i stopped averaging stocks and instead add to winning stocks i started earning money from my investments much faster..simple reason is how big the company is ...a falling stock recovers much late than a winning stock moving upwards..
you need to keep a watch
Wait till you reach bear market you'll get to know what this all means@@asifali007
You should trail SL
I fully agree to your upward averaging concept and I admit having gained a lot from pyramiding. Today only with the help of pyramiding i.e. buying, buying and buying my winning stocks with their rising prices, I have been able to accumulate good Company 's shares and my portfolio is very healthy.
Thanks a lot. 😊
I am at the beginning of my "investment journey", planning to put 185K into dividend stocks so that I will be making up to 30% per year in dividend returns. Any advice?
Adding JEPI and JEPQ are smart additions in my opinion. As for staying committed to long-term investments, it's all about balancing your risk tolerance with your long-term goals.
The market's instability makes DIY risky. You don't need to find the next NVDA to succeed in investing. Opt for top-notch ETFs, dividend aristocrats, and a trusted advisor. I've turned $100k into $20k in annual dividends, a major milestone.
I've been considering getting one, but haven't been proactive about it. Can you recommend your advisor? I could really use some assistance.
*Jennifer Leigh Hickman* has always been on the top of my list..She is regarded as a genius in her area and well knowledgeable about financial markets. I highly recommend her if you want excellent collaboration.
Wow, her track record looks really good from what I found online. I'll take a chance and see how it goes. Thanks for the info
Bhaiii...itna hi dar lagta he to share market me aana hi nahi chahiye...if you dont averages out in fundamentally good company then you will not be able to make money...if you add money at higher and higher level you end up loosing money😂😂😂 kese kese log aa jaate he youtube pe
Bhai tu bahut emotional hai... he is saying correct only... if you buy at the right price you should only average up even if it is good fundamental company
Always average up. Only follow price. That's what the world's best traders do. You have no clue about trading.... quick to identify a noob.... kaise kaise log comment karte hai you tube par
Sahi kahaa..ye sab logon ka gumraah kar rahe hai
@@RollsRoyce2035 bhaiii...with my experience i can say that share market is game of patience and luck in good stock..
Bhai yeh madrasi managers aisehi dimag khate hai IT comoany mein! 😂❤
Did math on ‘buy the dip’ oppose to buy the stock at increased price @8:19
5*90 = 450
15*80 = 1200
30*70 =2100
Total shares I own = 100+5+15+30=150
Total investment 3750 +10000 =13,750
My average is 91.6!!😃
If stock increases to 250 per share today then 150*250=37,500
Your average per share is 125😌 in future if stock reaches down to 125 you are under loss but I’m in gains
Thanks dear for such a valuable information. Because of averaging I was loosing a lot , now I know how to recover the loss.
ईश्वर आपको ऐसे ही स्वास्थ्य और दीर्घायु बनाए रखे
ETF investments are best.... for average, compared to stocks.
Completely agree as ETF should go up over time.
I just hit $100,000 net worth this last quarter from saving and i plan to invest in the stock market to see it grow in the next 3 years. What is the best way to navigate the stock market as a newbie?
I believe a healthy portfolio has 3 things, at the bare minimum: Exposure to ETFs for increased diversification, Exposure to assets that generate cash flow like dividend stocks, Exposure to market-leading tech.
Consider allocating 30-40% to a High-Yield Savings Account (HYSA) and enlisting the help of an advisor to diversify into positions with the rest of your capital. My advisor has significantly impacted my financial journey, fostering clarity and confidence in the stock market. Thanks to her guidance, I've grown my portfolio from $100k to $1.4m in just 5 years.
Wonderful!!! I've recently sold property and aim to invest in stocks, seeking guidance. How can I reach out to her?
She goes by ‘AMBER KAY WRIGHT’ I suggest you look her up. To be honest, I almost didn't buy the idea of letting someone handle growing my finance, but so glad I did
I'm impressed with your advisor's prompt response and expertise. Her clarity and professionalism instilled confidence from the start. Excited to explore opportunities together! Thank you.
I usually recommend people to give an entry to stock with 20 percent of money and not entire money. This will help to make profit on an average
The best strategy is the close to the bottom of the drop, the bottom of the drop - middle of steadiness, and the bottom of the rise. This has helped me gain great amounts of profits throughout a cycle.
Just to prove his point he shows that that the stock is falling continuously. A stock cannot continue to fall only , there will be a time when it will have uptrend. So if you have spare money to invest and you are invested in a fundamentally good stock then average at every 10% fall.
He is saying that market does work on hope and expectations but market does not goes down only and vice versa.
Past 1 year, i am using pramid strategy.. for me its working perfectly...
"Pyramiding" can also be done when the particular stock and market in general is going down. You can allocate smaller and smaller amounts and keep adding on the way up as well. JIO FIN was a perfect example of this. Trying to build a long term position, I started to buy at an all time high and then averaged both going down and on the way up. Worked well for this particular stock and point in time
Evn i plnd pyramiding 4 jio and avg for tata motars and itc.
You were saying market doesn't work on expectation for averaging. But, when you are talking about pyramiding, you are talking as if your investments would go up as you are EXPECTING. Wow
In my experience averaging over 6 to 1 year period on fundamentally strong stocks worked out beautifully and got me around 20 to 25% returns in 6 to 8 months period.
Just try holding for 5 years you will be mesmerized with the results
Averaging in NBCC fetched me good profit. During last budget NBCC shot up one day and I bought 100 shares of NBCC at 169 it went up to 172 but then started falling almost every day. Lastly I had 400 shares at an average of 142 ! It was then traded at around 121. Then one day as soon as it came down to 112 I bought 600 shares and decided not to average any more. But from then it started rising. Lastly I made exit from it at an average of 133 gaining Rs.3500.
This is a story of a very small investor like me! I used to average in almost all cases. But tried to purchase prospective shares. And in this upward market I am sure to get profit in all cases.
I respect your idea too.
In a volatile market you will hit stop loss again and again and after falling stock will again rise and again fall, pyramid strategy will be a disaster in volatile market. However not falling in love with stock is a great advice!
In pyramiding you grew the stock by 50% and by 100%. And as mentioned by you, you only do it for nifty 200. The companies in Nifty 200 generally take more than 3 years to grow by 100%.
Thank you for sharing. Please take a real world example like Nestle stock and show how it works. Otherwise it is just theory, which has no use case.
I have been in Markets from 8 years and i have got the transition from 2 generations of Market - they never told avoid averaging - They always told me one thing - Enter with only 25% in non f&o stock if f&o 50% of whatever i want invest.
Then at every 1% down I'll add 10% of remaining 50% so from the top i have added 50% at 10% lower the entry..
Pyramiding is a good concept, but averaging fundamentally strong stocks going low is not a mistake.
Overall nice video. Keep it up .
Many people know but do not apply n loose money, its all principles n discipline
Averaging works in good companies which has potentially strong since decades
Puzzled by your theory, which may be applicable for intraday not for long term investment
Construction of pyramid also starts of earth work from bottom and not on atop , my reference to solid companies, no one can catch the exact top or bottom price of a share in the market...
it depends on how much money you have. If you have considerable amount like institution then you know everything about company and the business. you know how much products are produced and and how much of that will get consumed.
so when the target is achieved these institutions will start selling and normal investors will loose money by averaging.
Investing in stock market is like running own business. you must know your market where you can sell, what are you going to produce, who will consume, how much you earn in how many years.etc.
I would never be able to time the market, I kept DCAing way up or way down providing
strong fundamentals
No debt
Good cash flow
Increasing revenue
Good asset vs liability
Good quarterly growth
Effective management
No competition
Just invest and Forget!
You are partially correct. You should put stop loss for the profit you have gained.. exiting is not a good choice if the stock is really good
I am continuously averaging when market falling and I am 26% profit.
Averaging (with no stoploss) & pyramiding (with stoploss) are done in stocks/indices which are going down or up respectively. In averaging you buy increasing number of stocks in order to average down your buying price, WITHOUT a stoploss.This might work well in fundamentally strong stocks going down due to a weak external environment or due to a temporary problem in the company. This might also work if you select a sectoral index/ETF which is going down due to factors mentioned above.
Pyramiding might work well in stocks/indices which are in an upward momentum. Here you buy decreasing number of stocks on the way up, in order to take full advantage of the momentum in the stock WITH a stoploss to protect your capital.This should work well both for fundamentally weak and strong stocks which are in an upward momentum.
So choose an appropriate stock in a suitable market trend to gain more profits.
Exactly fundamentally strong stocks me buy on dip karna chahiye .
I have been doing pyramiding without knowing the term just by common sense and getting good profits😊
averaging is definately good for a good stock
averaging need not necessarily be for the same quantity
When a stock falls but still the fundamentals are good, you will not fear but you will add more.....look at Yes bank. Even before the huge plummet their numbers started becoming bad......that is when you get out......if you have conviction in your analysis you will not get scared
He is telling truth.I am the example all my money stuck in the averaging the infosis but it is keep on going down but now I don't have the much money to invest in other stocks I already sold 50% of stocks with huge loss
You gotta hold that goddamn share brother
It is a fundamental strong stock.. you will not loose if you are averaging and waiting it..
You will regret your decision in 2-3 years and it was your mistake to buy it when it was overvalued.... ironically what this guy is telling to do buy overvalued stocks
Come to topic as early, don't do blablabla.....
My strategy is always start with 20% investment then average down and pyramid up it will make a best average price.
I agree and i dont agree as well.... averaging is needed when you have a fundamentally strong share in your portfolio which is falling ... it will give high returns when stock gains speed again... so averaging is not bad... only bad when fundamental of that sto k is poor...
Other side, pyramiding always needed when the same stock starts growing up... that way i get benefit of both sides..
So all in all, what is most important is that i should have enough money to invest in any situation
It's very good strategy which I am thinking after 8 years of experience in the market.
@Ajay Ajith: For swing traders, Is there any better way of handling crash like corona crash? If stocks open gap down much below our stop loss what should we ideally do? Can you make a video on this?
i am swing trader and i always average and come out safely. one just needs patients.
Averaging is good for etfs and mutual funds
Piramding is good for individual stocks
We can use an inverted pyramid for a downward average for good fundamental stocks ...
Upward averaging can wreck holdings if a bearish move occurs... Same for downward averaging.
The only thing to consider for averaging is to do it only when you do not see any other better stocks in the market.
In mutual funds, we can do avg right?it's safe there
Yes you can do it mutual funds
When we study the fundamentals and buy a share,we are going to monitor the company always. So if the share price is falling not due to the business going wrong, averaging will bring in multibagger returns. Hard earned money has to be invested only after careful study of the company business,not based on price fluctuations. Stop loss doesn't exist there
Very valuable advice. Average only in top 200 companies . But stoploss 3-5% depending on price of stock is good . In a volatile market 2% change is common . A bad news on sector brings 2% fall .
Agree with you on individual stocks, but averaging is good in mutual funds.
Dollar cost averaging is good always ❤❤❤
Thanx for making this video..All of your points were so relevant and close to my way of investment..
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Also, if it is a fundamentally good stock, I don't like the idea of 'pyramiding'. If you have done your due diligence and find the stock good, you should buy the stock in every dip. Not sure why need to stagger the purchase
Downward averaging for long term is right,right?
DCA on good stocks or in bull market is not a bad idea... You need to know when to get out as well.
Averaging in strong stocks i am making money ... alot and i doubt this is fluke..because 18 years cant be fluke .I dont sell my strong shares so no stop loss for me .passive income is tge goal...and remove money only when marjet is all time high and only if there is need of funds.
Convincing arguments against averaging and in favour of pyramiding. But, wait for a second, stop loss is a bad idea for a long-term position holder one would lose more often(small loss limit) or a one-time loss (big loss limit). I have learned that if a company is a reputable and established entity, only then averaging is not a bad idea but if it drops by 25% or more. If it is not take the loss max. at 25% and run with your money. One scenario you can not avoid is if the stock suddenly falls 40-50% in a single day or abruptly. The bottom line is to never use averaging on a sick horse; which likely end up in bankruptcy or accrue further losses. Pyramiding is also not very safe, stock in an uptrend is more likely to reverse its trend. Recently, markets in general become less predictable and more ruthless.
Basically it’s SIP , smaller tranche of investment irrespective of stock going up or going down , only condition is stock fundamentals must be strong
Hey Ajay
Good stagey
I am hearing this is the first . If I already heard about it I won't invest huge money in falling share Like delta corp and bcg.
If you don't mind can you give me a suggestion
This is what I do now cause it ties money up for long periods of time
Do average after 40-50% down price for one time in fundamental good stock. It definitely work in long term. Your concept with in 1yr concept
Not clear,,what to do in case of falling stock values? What he said is buying smaller quantity in case of rising stocks,,, that's good, I used to do it,,but in case of fundamentally strong stocks, loss averaging is a good technique for the long run. In case of losing stocks, I try to get it out or hold it for the next happenings,,,of course for good stocks.
Sir is pyramiding is also applicable in etfs
Do SIP in ETFs. It's better.
I bought TCS seeing net reviews that the Rs.4000 stock will be Rs.14000 in 2030..now its down to Rs.3800 !!
This logic is only applicable only for weaker or penny stocks. Consider company Like TCS who have grown every quarter with profit after profit on its operations not through assets … so it is good to buy 2-3 stocks every month for longterm and buy 10 if it falls too much due to some war going or entire market affected
If companies fundamentals are good then stock will most likely go up. So its not a hope. It’s just that we should read company fundamentals before investing in a company. I don’t think so that averaging is bad as long as company fundamentals remain solid.
Is this advice for position trade or long term investing ? Confusion😮
Whatever you r saying that may be good but it doesn't mean that averaging is bad. Averaging is more important than whatever you r saying..
Nobody can predict for sure on when to averaging and when to pyramiding. In my opinion, averaging can be good when the stock falls in tandem with the market momentarily in two or three days. If the stock is in downtrend continuously, better wait for trend reversal with two weekly green candles before averaging. Pyramiding with stoploss for capital protection may always be good in stock uptrend.
Stoploss and pyramiding is for Traders. Investors average (accumulate) always.
Does Averaging works in mutual funds ?
If the enter sector is falling you can average the market leader in that sector, example now chemical and footwear.
Fundamentaly good stocks can be bought at every support level.
he is right.. trust him
Hi friend, while pyramiding , what if the price of a stock falls below the first bought price ?. So, after studying the history of the stock movement, it's better to average the stock price as it falls & someday it starts recovering & can make profits.
Averaging for good stock is good idea
Dont invest on price invest on business if business is doing well your price will mirroring or reflect on price vise versa research before investment and ask your self that whether your company can survive for next 10 years when your confidence will build on particular business your mind will not fluctuate and you will see that your invest will fetch fruit I will study a company if I find it suitable for me I will keep on buying for 2 years and give another 1 year means to see atleast 3 years you should give to any business remember you may go wrong dont biase accept you mistake and sell if it not giving you desire result after your cutoff time always try to find future business for huge return read Quarterly results management speach and balance sheet remember success in market is always right fight with you self if you passionate that your success rate will increase vise versa many more lesson I dont believe on stoploss which is trader word I believe on entry and exit.
I have 1000 shares @500 Rs.. stock goes down to 300 Rs i average at 300 now stock price is Rs 1000 Rs. What's your opinion on this 😂
Dis applies more for swing trading...In investing u don't need to pump your money in intervals...If identified a fundamentally strong stock den jst hold and follow quarter results...
Good information. However, this "pyramiding" is nothing but upward-averaging!
I was holding polycab since IPO from 596 it reached 5000. Then there was a correction and it came to 3600 it was a golden opportunity to buy more but I also fell in this trap of not buying the falling knife today it's 7000 damn stupid mistake. Unless there is anything fundamentally wrong with the stock always average.... if your original investment thesis still plays unless you buy stocks for short term because real wealth creation is in long term
I have countless examples of averaging working and not averaging a blunder....
Had tejas network at 330 it fell to 30 did not average its 700+(sold at breakeven😢)
Got windlas in ipo at 460 it fell to 200 did not average now trading at 632(Still holding)
Century ply bought at 240 came to 120 didn't average last time i saw was around 700 ( sold at breakeven)
Now the craziest one had 100 shares in yes bank at 370 got stuck bought 3000 more in FPO at 12 rs was able to sell my position at 15k profit. However i don't recommended doing such things in fundamentally weak stocks
Having said all that its worth buying fundamentally strong cos at higher levels
It's better to invest in ETF indices, averaging works there, as of now.
Then the concept of Every dip is an opportunity is failed?
Exit at stop loss and enter at uptrend in simple terms
if you book the loss then only your realized loss is 3000, here we will wait till it reach 120 or 150. even it takes years also no problem. we will look the company worth of it then only we will put our money into it otherwise we won't buy 1st 100 stocks as well
Averaging is good for long term investers in fundamentally strong companies.
Hi, I have an important question. Regarding Pyramiding the position on highs and adding new more stocks to already profitable one, I noticed the average buying price worry me lot. I noticed, the buying price of those stocks taken before pyramiding are now changing automatically to new higher average price after the adding. For example, I was sitting on 10 % profit and after pyramiding, my profits have suddenly gone down to just 5% and when the stock goes down, I lose all the profits I have made earlier because earlier I had 10 % buffer which now gone down to only 5 % . This is very difficult for somebody who was already in profit to see your position is already getting into loss. So what most traders do in such cases? Thanks
Sir Nagraj Strategy 2024 Mein Sahi hai? Matlab koi Yes Bank ya Vodafone jaise stocks Mein agar Nagraj ban ke baitha hoga instead of profit booking, Poora Loss Hota...
Waqt Badal gaya, Haalath Badal Gaye Hain, isn't 3 to 4 yr profit booking and Rotation is better idea? 😢
It’s mindset of a trader not an investor
Dont mislead
The sip is the ultimate example of Averaging
Pyramiding only talks about increasing profit when you are already in profit (may be investor). Most of the case we go for averaging to get out of the stock early when stock falls to a quick dip. Doing averaging on a fundamentally strong stock gives its benefits as well.
How does this play out in a scalping scenario?
bro i think you are really confused. 1) stop loss is not for investors, as the decision relies on value investing and the fundamentals of the stock and not on the price movement. 2) Top 50 stocks are generally blue-chips; next 150 are midcaps. so in top 200 stocks midcap comes.
A good video i must say but i will always prefer stocks. AI stocks will dominate 2024. Why I prefer NVIDIA is that they are better placed to maintain long term growth potential, and provide a platform for other AI companies. I know someone who has made more than 200% from NVIDIA. I'll also take these other recommendations you made.
I agree, just because the market presents opportunities doesn't mean we should rush in headfirst. For this reason, we should look for appropriate market analysis or guidance or, alternatively, seek advice from certified market strategists.
Having the right plan is invaluable, my portfolio is well-matched for every season of the market and recently hit 100% rise from early last year. I and my CFP are working on a 7 figure ballpark goal, tho this could take till Q3 2024.
One of my goals is to employ the service of one this year. I've seen some off Facebook but wasn't able to get a response. Could you recommend who it is you work with?
Marisa breton Dollard is Well vast and established in that field. You may look up the name and possibly shoot her a mail
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true for options buying, not for any other case
If you are an investor then no concept of Stoploss. Only traders need stoploss. Don’t confuse trading with investment
Never do averaging in a fundamentally weak stock.