What Is True-RMS And Why Is It So Important?

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  • Опубликовано: 24 авг 2013
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    So what is True-RMS and why is it important to us? RMS is the Root Mean Square, or effective heating value of any ac voltage or current waveform. RMS is the equivalent DC heating value of an AC waveform.
    A true-rms device is one of three tools that can measure alternating current (ac) or ac voltage:
    1. True-rms digital multimeters (or clamp meter)
    2. Average-responding digital multimeter (or clamp meter)
    3. Oscilloscope
    Only the first two are commonly used, and both can accurately measure standard (pure ac) sinusoidal waveforms.
    With an average responding meter, it takes the average of a signal, multiplies it by 1.11 and displays the RMS. This only works for linear loads or perfect sinusoidal waves. If an average responding meter were to measure an electronic load such as drives or simple lighting controls, the average responding meter will give you inaccurate readings distorted by harmonics.
    Distorted waveforms or non-sinusoidal waves are caused by non-linear loads, which include virtually electrons loads. Hence why a true-rms digital multimeter or true-rms clamp meter is widely preferred because only they can accurately measure both pure waves and the more complex non-sinusoidal waves. Waveforms can be distorted by nonlinear loads such as variable speed drives or computers. An averaging meter attempting to measure distorted waves can be up to 40% low or 10% high in its calculations.
    Successfully troubleshooting electrical problems relies equally on good tech manuals from the manufacturer and a high quality, true-rms test tool.
    Fluke True-RMS tools: bit.ly/2JD3a8Z
    More on True-RMS: bit.ly/2IIogkQ
    #TrueRMS #TrueRMSmultimeter #fluke289 #WhatisRMS

Комментарии • 46

  • @darksiderydah2721
    @darksiderydah2721 7 лет назад +22

    This is an excellent teaching video. I am in the Hvac field and I have worked with people that have told me that true RMS is not important. I never knew how important it really is for trouble shooting. I was watching videos because I am about to invest in a new amp meter. This definitely helped my decision. To all the workers out there we must know our trade.

  • @bsodbsod7724
    @bsodbsod7724 Год назад +2

    Wow. Outstanding Video. Simple and no bullshit introduction. Just the pure information. Thanks a lot

  • @sillybillythatsme2240
    @sillybillythatsme2240 9 лет назад +3

    Thanks very much for explaining that. I now have a better understanding of True RMS.

  • @ÆCME
    @ÆCME 2 года назад

    Great informative piece there...thanks .
    I would love to own one of you're multimeters one day...
    A very prestige & reassuring accurate device in today's world, were as the Gentleman said , how advanced & technology has evolved so fast.
    With electric vehicles as an example.
    You're all over the car with a meter, tracing issues... accurate reading,is essential.
    Fine Meter Indeed.

  • @ELECTROxigeno76.
    @ELECTROxigeno76. Год назад +1

    Exelent video, tks FLUKE 🎩

  • @frankievassallo552
    @frankievassallo552 3 месяца назад

    Enough said. Thank you!

  • @asadbabilbabil7791
    @asadbabilbabil7791 Год назад

    شرح ممتاز بارك الله بكم

  • @jjframa
    @jjframa 8 лет назад

    my fluke 179 is true RMS is I have a square wave with 7℅ of duty cycle what equation can I use? Thanks for that video!

  • @qzorn4440
    @qzorn4440 4 года назад

    nice info..should hook it up to a scr volts/amps circuit ... thanks...:)

  • @bewimotos
    @bewimotos 6 лет назад

    Question: do True RMS meter need the DVA adapter for checking pick up coils?

    • @fluke
      @fluke  6 лет назад +3

      Hi Willy - The TRMS meter would need to have a peak function like the 87V and would not need a DVA adapter.

  • @spelunkerd
    @spelunkerd 4 года назад +3

    Today I objectively tested my Fluke 117 "true RMS" meter against an oscilloscope measurement of RMS voltage at 60 Hz, using a square wave input from a signal generator with or without offset, varying duty cycles. I would have thought that the Fluke would do pretty well. Not so, compared to the scope! When it didn't perform well at 15kHz, I assumed it was because the sample rate was too slow, but even at a slow 60 Hz it can't keep up. Presumably the refresh and higher sample rate of the scope was the difference. At 50% duty cycle it is close, but for outside limits like less than 30% duty and more than 70% the result was pathetic.

    • @scottandrew2066
      @scottandrew2066 4 года назад

      spelunkerd I’m trying to figure out how the current peak changed when he used the dimmer switch, I thought only increasing the load (reducing impedance) would result in increased current.

    • @fluke
      @fluke  4 года назад +1

      Hi Scott - I decided to answer this question on your original comment. Please feel free to send a reply to our answer if you have more questions!

  • @jec_ecart
    @jec_ecart 4 года назад

    Perfectly explained

    • @fluke
      @fluke  4 года назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @ssent1
    @ssent1 3 года назад

    Great explanation. Now it's easy to justify the investment in a True-RMS metre.

    • @fluke
      @fluke  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for your feedback, Lynda!

  • @alvilla701
    @alvilla701 3 года назад +1

    I am new on electricity, and I like to have good tools, so I bought the 87V-MAX, do you guys have like a play list videos for this multimeter

    • @fluke
      @fluke  3 года назад +1

      We have quite a few videos that might be of interest. Check these out: bit.ly/3eBQTmq

    • @alvilla701
      @alvilla701 3 года назад

      @@fluke thank you

  • @samsonolaniyi6359
    @samsonolaniyi6359 4 года назад

    If my multimeter is reading continuety on the mineral resources but not beeping, what does it mean?

    • @fluke
      @fluke  4 года назад +2

      Hi Samson - Our multimeters will have a specified resistance value at which the continuity is guaranteed to beep and give an audible tone. That value can vary depending on which meter you are using. Which multimeter are you using and what resistance value are you measuring? Example would be the Fluke 179, the continuity beeper is only specified for ohm measurements at 25 ohms or less. Any measurements above 25 ohms is not guaranteed to beep.

  • @kaybhee6
    @kaybhee6 4 года назад

    how u make scope show real current,,,, pls show us setup connections

    • @fluke
      @fluke  4 года назад

      Hello - Please review RUclips link: bit.ly/2WMz0ZB This will show how to measure current with a Scopemeter and current clamp. Which Fluke Scopemeter are you using and with what current probe?

  • @raidone7413
    @raidone7413 Год назад

    okay so how do i apply this? or in other words what does this tell me?

    • @wackyweyland8857
      @wackyweyland8857 2 месяца назад

      A true RMS meter gives more accurate results by accurately examining a sine wave compared to an averaging meter, which gives a rough estimate. The average meter is alright for perfect sine waves, but when you have distorted waves, you can get incorrect readings, which could interfere with troubleshooting or diagnostics. When it comes to sensitive electronics, it's important to have accurate measurements.

  • @RSP13
    @RSP13 8 лет назад +13

    Very nice! But I'm color blind? 1:44

    • @Jack_The_Biker
      @Jack_The_Biker 5 лет назад

      A is red. B is blue

    • @e1woqf
      @e1woqf 5 лет назад +1

      @@Jack_The_Biker kind of...

  • @BYENZER
    @BYENZER 3 года назад +4

    Q: WHEN is a NON-TRUE RMS VOLT meter, a better choice than a TRUE RMS meter??
    A: Automotive alternator D.C. VOLTAGE OUTPUT measuring. Why? Alternator output should have only D.C., without any A.C. waveform, (called DIRTY D.C.), riding on top of the D.C. If an alternator diode set is bad, the dirty D.C. will NOT ALLOW a NON-TRUE-RMS voltmeter to SETTLE DOWN. The voltage display number will be erratic. BUT, a TRUE RMS meter, set to D.C. will settle down and FOOL YOU into thinking ALL IS GOOD, when in fact, the alternator is BAD.

  • @sambemixing2100
    @sambemixing2100 4 года назад +2

    Applying this to music

  • @scottandrew2066
    @scottandrew2066 4 года назад

    How does a dimmer switch increase the peak to peak current? Makes no sense

    • @fluke
      @fluke  4 года назад +4

      Hi Scott - This would depend on the direction of the dimmer switch. If you were to dim the lights you would be increasing the resistance giving you a lower current through the bulb. And the opposite would be to brighten the bulb where you would decrease the resistance and increase the current.

  • @abhayjoshigoa
    @abhayjoshigoa 4 года назад +1

    Thanks sir...so true rms is for AC readings only..

    • @fluke
      @fluke  4 года назад

      Hi Abhay - A true-RMS device (RMS = root mean square) is one of three tools that can measure alternating current (ac) or ac voltage:
      bit.ly/38hpMYj

    • @immeohmyoh
      @immeohmyoh 4 года назад +1

      @@fluke You didn't answer the question.

    • @isaacturner199
      @isaacturner199 3 года назад +1

      @@immeohmyoh the answer is yes and to be fair that link really gives more than enough info to fully answer.

    • @fusseldieb
      @fusseldieb 2 года назад

      @@isaacturner199 The answer is NO. A DC PWM signal from a microcontroller would also be wrong.

  • @Notmy00000
    @Notmy00000 2 года назад

    🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @asadbabilbabil7791
    @asadbabilbabil7791 Год назад

    Very good sir

  • @joebuck4496
    @joebuck4496 2 года назад

    Ok. So then I wonder why ALL Fluke meters wouldn’t be mandatory true RMS?

  • @MiguelGonzalez-my8ei
    @MiguelGonzalez-my8ei 4 года назад

    O

  • @terryfrihart4341
    @terryfrihart4341 3 года назад

    Ask them what RMS IS.

  • @robbyrobby7721
    @robbyrobby7721 Месяц назад

    I use fluke because it says I’m a professional and not playing games

  • @bitdigital8052
    @bitdigital8052 8 месяцев назад

    If “True RMS” is so important, WHY do you guys sell meters without it in 2023+ ??