Mann every episode is a wealth of knowledge and gems for sure, but this one is DIFFERENT! As engineers, we always talk about the technical stuff all the time. Issa given at this point, but something that's never highlighted enough from audio schools, RUclips teachers and goated engineers is the studio etiquette and vibe! I love that ya'll are touching on this point! Being a "good hang" or a good vibe in these rooms with these big dawgs is crucial to whether you get back in that room or not! It's a toxic tango of knowing when to speak, how to speak (subject matter, delivery), and who to speak to, IF at all! How we approach this can also dictate what types of environments we can be in when recording, mixing or even vocal producing! Maybe a traditional studio isn't best suited for some and a bnb/writers camp setup would be where you thrive. I had to learn this the hard way and am still learning this at a top studio in Miami currently! Thank yall for these gems frfr!
I worked in a studio back in the 70's and funny how labels and things change. Now it Intern, but when I got started you were the studio cleanup person. I imagine job is the same break down sessions, make coffee, run errands, and vacuum and clean. Then you work up to back then 2nd engineer was the term I think today it be Assistant engineer. I was in analog days so digital world everything totally different. Then back then there were engineers and producers and mastering engineers. I hear today everything is a speciality tracking, mixing, mastering, and other specialities. Back then you became an engineer to get your tech skills and start learn producing. I'm retired and getting back to recording for myself and real interesting comparing the 1970's then 2008, and today 2024 quite an evolution in the tech and the job itself.
Yeah it's completely different. The technology is incredible. A lot of people myself included are able to learn and do it all to an extent. Not even necessarily out of wanting to, but having to. But the more i've learned, the more I want to be hands on across the whole thing i can't lie. I'd happily let someone else master though.
This was an example of a great episode that wasn't very technical but oh so valuable. Hearing progress stories of how they started to how they got to where they are and the mindset behind it is mad valuable/inspiring. Great job fellas
The convo that starts kinda at the 37:40 is the realest thing for any musician, y’all need to clip that part stg, hit too close to home. The average person really doesn’t understand how personal creating music is
been watching and learning from Devvon for so so long... I went from being a dancer, artist, beat maker, producer... and now trying to perfect my sound so I can transition to being an engineer. I do need the Rosetta on my bus, but even without it... I have to give you your flowers bruh. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
ANOTHER great show!! I'm always learning something watching you guys and I always find myself smiling because yall be looking like you have so much fun doing what you're doing! I'm here for it lol love you guys
Awesome to hear all the talk about old ways of doing things, looperman, hipstrumentals, RUclips to mp3 and all that lol crazy to think I've been doing all this stuff for almost 20 years but I haven't been able to make any money from any of it. Pushes me to figure out my way in, I need to do this for a living, I love it to much.
Great episode. The issue with the music today is the creators have no attachment to life anymore so it shows in the music. We are too busy browsing and streaming music and shows that we take time for granted. We don’t spend time to appreciate art and just move on to the next. We used to buy a cd and listen to it all day on repeat. We absorbed every word and sound but now, we are brief with everything we do so the music sounds mediocre. The song writing and producing is all mediocre. Meanwhile, Michael Jackson sang about a rat who was a friend to an abused child, that song was Ben. The perspective of the creator is what makes the art special.
Bruh they are both such cool down to earth dudes. Dropping gems absolutely everywhere 🔥 shout out to Travis and Cruz man! Shout out to all of you. Thank you 🙏🤙
Over by Lucky Daye was sample after an old french movie. Original track name, Vivre pour Vivre. And track was covered by Charlie Byrd in English Live for Life
Yes! We livin in the age of home/bedroom studios that requires the lines between the skills get blurred. You want a hard track that smacks you gotta learn how that gets done. Performing and recording instrument tracks,, engineering the process, producing the project, and like Devon…singing/rapping your own projects! It’s crazy but that’s where we are now. 😅
I''m entirely sure my purchase of Storm 2.0 on my 10th brithday is the reason I have a random Arturia license that never expires. The plugins for that DAW look very similar the ones people are making in the Ableton max section.
I have Metro Boomin one-shot drum packs that I make beats with all the time. I write my own melodies and write my own drum sequences. With that being said, I’ve always wondered how Metro and producers feel about producers who make beats using their one-shot drum samples. I wouldn’t wanna give metro credit for the beats I’ve made, but then again, I guess I should?
The issue with sampling is that most of it just ain’t good. It’s just TikTok bait. It’s one thing to do a rendition or reinterpretation, it’s another thing to just take somebody else music and butcher it. Glasper whole 1st black radio was filled with renditions. But he Glasperized it. That’s not looping someone else’s work over your subpar lyrics and calling it art. I look at sampling like collage art. I don’t wanna see the Davinci’s Mona Lisa with Van Gogh’s Starry night as the background. People can like what they like, but everybody don’t have to agree that it’s good art.
No disrespect to the new generation, but I feel like these new DAW‘s are making it easy for people to cheat and steal peoples hired earn talent, I’m not feeling it, but it is what it is, love, nature, the blind beat boy from Buffalo, peace 24:16
I guess everyone didn’t know that Izotope Rx has been giving you stems for so long. Maybe not as convenient as everyone is now, but it’s been around for a while
I only wanted to be an engineer. I think it hurts me sometimes because I cant help more production wise. I dont play any instruments or anything. I have my clients and definitely know how to vibe the room but no one just wants an engineer anymore. At least none of the young cats it seems
With the FL stem splitter thing (not looked into it) but like how said amateur thing I don’t think that’s a good thing because these AI stem splitters don’t sound good not to a high level i’ve tried most of them because some of my old beats I don’t have the projects or stems for but wanted to separate the stems and none of them got a clean result. So I think one reason why other Daws wouldn’t or haven’t done this is it’s not a professional thing yet and could create problems I would be angry as an artist/producer that someone separated out my stems and created phase and other low quality artifacts in my track. But again I haven’t checked it - just pointing out the potential problems because again it’s a lot of kids who don’t know aome of the engineering guidelines that think they’re good to do whatever.
Rappers delight came out only two years after Good Times. The argument that you shouldn't sample something till it's so old is a joke. Both prince paul and Rza sampled Portishead only a few years after the original song came out.
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Mann every episode is a wealth of knowledge and gems for sure, but this one is DIFFERENT! As engineers, we always talk about the technical stuff all the time. Issa given at this point, but something that's never highlighted enough from audio schools, RUclips teachers and goated engineers is the studio etiquette and vibe! I love that ya'll are touching on this point! Being a "good hang" or a good vibe in these rooms with these big dawgs is crucial to whether you get back in that room or not! It's a toxic tango of knowing when to speak, how to speak (subject matter, delivery), and who to speak to, IF at all! How we approach this can also dictate what types of environments we can be in when recording, mixing or even vocal producing! Maybe a traditional studio isn't best suited for some and a bnb/writers camp setup would be where you thrive. I had to learn this the hard way and am still learning this at a top studio in Miami currently! Thank yall for these gems frfr!
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@@HelpMeDevvondude please stop taking over people.
I worked in a studio back in the 70's and funny how labels and things change. Now it Intern, but when I got started you were the studio cleanup person. I imagine job is the same break down sessions, make coffee, run errands, and vacuum and clean. Then you work up to back then 2nd engineer was the term I think today it be Assistant engineer. I was in analog days so digital world everything totally different. Then back then there were engineers and producers and mastering engineers. I hear today everything is a speciality tracking, mixing, mastering, and other specialities. Back then you became an engineer to get your tech skills and start learn producing. I'm retired and getting back to recording for myself and real interesting comparing the 1970's then 2008, and today 2024 quite an evolution in the tech and the job itself.
Yeah it's completely different. The technology is incredible. A lot of people myself included are able to learn and do it all to an extent. Not even necessarily out of wanting to, but having to. But the more i've learned, the more I want to be hands on across the whole thing i can't lie. I'd happily let someone else master though.
This was an example of a great episode that wasn't very technical but oh so valuable. Hearing progress stories of how they started to how they got to where they are and the mindset behind it is mad valuable/inspiring. Great job fellas
The convo that starts kinda at the 37:40 is the realest thing for any musician, y’all need to clip that part stg, hit too close to home. The average person really doesn’t understand how personal creating music is
8:49 LJ's in disbelief 🤣🤣🤣🤣
sampling makes music timeless, we sre recycling old vibes and making them new again!
been watching and learning from Devvon for so so long... I went from being a dancer, artist, beat maker, producer... and now trying to perfect my sound so I can transition to being an engineer. I do need the Rosetta on my bus, but even without it... I have to give you your flowers bruh. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
🔥 episode yall bringing it. nothing worse than somebody taking you out the element when you make music
always tapping in! love all the gems, sending love from Las Vegas Mikey Dropz!
ANOTHER great show!! I'm always learning something watching you guys and I always find myself smiling because yall be looking like you have so much fun doing what you're doing! I'm here for it lol love you guys
Awesome to hear all the talk about old ways of doing things, looperman, hipstrumentals, RUclips to mp3 and all that lol crazy to think I've been doing all this stuff for almost 20 years but I haven't been able to make any money from any of it. Pushes me to figure out my way in, I need to do this for a living, I love it to much.
Great episode. The issue with the music today is the creators have no attachment to life anymore so it shows in the music. We are too busy browsing and streaming music and shows that we take time for granted. We don’t spend time to appreciate art and just move on to the next. We used to buy a cd and listen to it all day on repeat. We absorbed every word and sound but now, we are brief with everything we do so the music sounds mediocre. The song writing and producing is all mediocre. Meanwhile, Michael Jackson sang about a rat who was a friend to an abused child, that song was Ben. The perspective of the creator is what makes the art special.
Bruh they are both such cool down to earth dudes. Dropping gems absolutely everywhere 🔥 shout out to Travis and Cruz man! Shout out to all of you. Thank you 🙏🤙
I know people overlook the DAW, but Mixcraft 10 has implemented stem separation as well.
"need to know if you the wheels or the mortar" 🔥 man spitting straight bars. Sheesh
Enjoyed this as usual, and I've subscribed to the HIDDEN HANDS podcast. From this conversation alone, it feels like a great side-by-side for this pod.
HOW YOU FINNA EXPOSE LOOPERMAN. SOME GEMS MUST BE KEPT IN THE VAULT
Over by Lucky Daye was sample after an old french movie. Original track name, Vivre pour Vivre. And track was covered by Charlie Byrd in English Live for Life
Yes! We livin in the age of home/bedroom studios that requires the lines between the skills get blurred. You want a hard track that smacks you gotta learn how that gets done. Performing and recording instrument tracks,, engineering the process, producing the project, and like Devon…singing/rapping your own projects! It’s crazy but that’s where we are now. 😅
I''m entirely sure my purchase of Storm 2.0 on my 10th brithday is the reason I have a random Arturia license that never expires. The plugins for that DAW look very similar the ones people are making in the Ableton max section.
For some reason soft clipping is confusing as hell to me. I need to figure that out 😶🌫
I started out on Master Tracks, Performer, Cubase, Pro tools and now FL>
My favorite pod. Honestly.
Nice to see MC Ride finally appearing on the show, rockin the dreads and everything
I could listen to Travis all day. He can break difficult topics down to where one can understand!★🎶★
every second is a gem
lets goooooo new ep yewwwwww, hands down my favorite ep i really loved this conversation
We gotcha!!
Do you guys think you could add chapters? With titles of the current conversation topic?
I want to love this pod but man it’s too short!
Your channel is awesome keep going!
I have Metro Boomin one-shot drum packs that I make beats with all the time. I write my own melodies and write my own drum sequences. With that being said, I’ve always wondered how Metro and producers feel about producers who make beats using their one-shot drum samples. I wouldn’t wanna give metro credit for the beats I’ve made, but then again, I guess I should?
Think about it, following your logic you should give credits to Roland 808 drum machine 😂
LOVE YALL!!!
Great Show again. More More. 🔥🔥🔥
Trav COOKED on this interview!
LOVE THE PODCAST,,,,
Logic Gang great episode
Big VIBES! Fullsail Gang!!!!
Excellent episode
L Jean I did the same thing with a snare I loved after FL added that stem seperator hahahaha
How tf is his mic jus floating
Them chains be fire in a song
🔥 episode
Excellent episode 👍🏾
🔥🔥🔥🔥Episode.
Don't disrespect the Engineer, you need them the most
Man what yall know about that Cool Edit Pro ?? 😂
They got purchased by adobe and became adobe audition.
That was the shit bk in the day
That's like 04 - 05
Very easy to use.. FL need to make recording that simple
Mannn this is where it all started !!
lol Lophiile is the homie!! one of my favorite producers
Yup he’s my kid 😊
Ljay lookin like he just got deployed in desert storm
dam win rec n soundclick was classic,speaker to the computer mic ,re run ya take and open 2 and you can do highlights n libs lmaoooo
I am the studio one kenobi
LMAO
Who remebers sound recorder though?
he said it perfect "ableton is like a blend of all DAWs"
It was the windows media recorder for me 😂
FL GANG ‼️
Baltimore in the building baby! We invented club music let's go
Yo I'm first. Studio one is here
The issue with sampling is that most of it just ain’t good. It’s just TikTok bait. It’s one thing to do a rendition or reinterpretation, it’s another thing to just take somebody else music and butcher it.
Glasper whole 1st black radio was filled with renditions. But he Glasperized it. That’s not looping someone else’s work over your subpar lyrics and calling it art.
I look at sampling like collage art. I don’t wanna see the Davinci’s Mona Lisa with Van Gogh’s Starry night as the background. People can like what they like, but everybody don’t have to agree that it’s good art.
new mpcs got stems too🔥
27 on the "stuff like that" counter 😅
What about getting Willie Green on?
No disrespect to the new generation, but I feel like these new DAW‘s are making it easy for people to cheat and steal peoples hired earn talent, I’m not feeling it, but it is what it is, love, nature, the blind beat boy from Buffalo, peace 24:16
Magix acidpro had the stem separater befor fL
35:42 😭😭😂😂😂😂❗️❗️❗️
I guess everyone didn’t know that Izotope Rx has been giving you stems for so long. Maybe not as convenient as everyone is now, but it’s been around for a while
Id say theres a difference between confidence and ego
Ableton gang gang 😤😤
brooooo looperman omg
Ya’ll sleepin on Courtney’s new music frrr
I only wanted to be an engineer. I think it hurts me sometimes because I cant help more production wise. I dont play any instruments or anything. I have my clients and definitely know how to vibe the room but no one just wants an engineer anymore. At least none of the young cats it seems
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Travis is a crazy wise guy
and Why LJ dressed like he going Hunting lol
With the FL stem splitter thing (not looked into it) but like how said amateur thing I don’t think that’s a good thing because these AI stem splitters don’t sound good not to a high level i’ve tried most of them because some of my old beats I don’t have the projects or stems for but wanted to separate the stems and none of them got a clean result. So I think one reason why other Daws wouldn’t or haven’t done this is it’s not a professional thing yet and could create problems I would be angry as an artist/producer that someone separated out my stems and created phase and other low quality artifacts in my track.
But again I haven’t checked it - just pointing out the potential problems because again it’s a lot of kids who don’t know aome of the engineering guidelines that think they’re good to do whatever.
f-9th wonder! shout out Little Brother
lol. I just did a Cardi B song remix. ❤
Feel like I’m right there lmao
Rappers delight came out only two years after Good Times. The argument that you shouldn't sample something till it's so old is a joke. Both prince paul and Rza sampled Portishead only a few years after the original song came out.
early j. cole was also one of the sons of kanye... just to put that out there.
Producers with pre-made chords...pff...🤦♂️
build your ego
I love this podcast, but damn y’all talk over each other too much.
If you dont start getting some Studio ONE users on here Imma start thanking yall are DAW racist 😂
DAW-cist 💀😂
Yo I’m all here for the Rosetta EQ and Comp @victormanuel_vicente 👀 but when are we getting the Rosetta clipper?
LETS GOOOOOO
Members!!!
Pro Tools is like English!!
Logic is Spanish!! ~ @JTaitSinger
Some producers need to let things breathe though. Somebody sampled 'Water' already and that's just nasty work lmao @wsmarskiii
My name is @pencellarite and I'm an FL user 🎉
BRO LOOPERMAN LETS GO!!!!
@braykedown
I'm mad Travis aired my whole scheme! 🥲 That's what I said as soon as I found out FL dropped that update.
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