I'd personally call it Windows 21, partly because it sounds nicer imo but also it aligns with the release year, but given the teasers it'll probably be 11. I doubt they'll go with just "Windows" for the same reasons you've stated, and I feel like the changes seem to big to brand it as an update to 10 or even go with 10.1
Another idea: They're pulling an Nvidia (GTX 1080, RTX 2080, RTX 3080...) and call it Windows 20. In another 5-7 years, we'll get Windows 30. (Not likely but ideas)
Microsoft could continue the Windows as a service thing, but I think naming the next version something like Windows 2021 would make the most sense. And subsequent versions/updates could be called, Windows 2022, Windows 2023, Windows 2024 etc. This would be the best possible naming scheme in my opinion for various reasons. 1. It would be nostalgic to those who grew up with Windows 95, 98 and 2000 by bringing back the year scheme. 2. This would also technically make Windows 10 just Windows in the future, kinda. The version number would just be more obvious to the user. 3. This would make marketing to next version of Windows much easier and much better. So simple users know which version of Windows specifically they're going to get. When boxed copies only say Windows 10, but not the specific version number. 4. Speaking of, most non-tech savvy people simply only know they're running Windows 10, but don't know which version specifically. I asked my dad (who is pretty tech savvy) which version of Windows 10 he's running (like the version number), and he simply replied "the latest update". Which makes it pretty clear that he doesn't know which version number the "latest update" is. Was it 20H2, or 21H1? 5. This would line up with the Windows Server naming scheme, that already uses the year of release naming scheme.
I think we might get both Windows and Windows 11 a the same time. Windows will be the official name of the product after the rebranding while the updates will continue with numerals, so 21H2 would be Windows 11 and 22H? would be Windows 12 and so on
I feel like they might be moving toward just calling it “Windows”, which would not surprise me, though me and most of the people I know HATE that idea.
I think if they were gonna increment the number, it would be in name only, just like how macOS Big Sur started as 10.16 in beta 1 and later switched to 11.0. It will install like a usual feature update will, and show Windows 11 branding, but just be the same technology as Windows 10. Similar to 8 -> 8.1, instead of 7 -> 8.1 or 8.1 -> 10. I assume that all software and drivers that support Windows 10 in any fashion will support theoretical Windows 11. I also wonder if this is the year they can 32-bit Windows. Apple abandoned native 32-bit in 2011, and most current Linux distros dont have 32-bit versions anymore. It’s time for Windows to leave 32-bit behind as well.
They went so far with "name only" that they didn't (or forgot to?) increment the NT version from 10 to 11! Definitely makes Windows 11 the Windows equivalent to macOS 11 Big Sur, development process, redesign, etc. They're not doing point releases or "new year, new number" though (rumors point to "new number every 3 years").
From the perspective of technical support, the easiest solution would be to follow the branding of macOS and many Linux distros (Debian, etc.) and have a numbered release every year (probably around September/October, as that is when macOS and Ubuntu release), meaning that the release coming up would be 11 (or maybe 12 if they want to stay on par with macOS), and each month when a major patch is released increment the decimal point (11.1, 11.2, etc._). Having one major update a year to the OS as opposed to the two that they do currently would give more time for each major version to be polished, and help avoid any major disasters.
I think it's just gonna be called Windows (no 10 or 11), but maybe they will continue to use the Year-Half version scheme they started to use not too long ago, for example, Windows 21H2 or 22H1. And internally, maybe bump the NT kernel version (11.0). Oh, and Windows Server will continue to use years (like Windows Server 2022, which MS just finished its development).
I think one thing they could call it is _Windows Series_ or something similar since with Windows 10, they released Windows 10X and Windows 10S, which kind of followed the Xbox One revision names (Xbox One S/X). And since the current generation of Xbox is called Xbox Series X/S, they could take some inspiration from that. I don't think they add X or S at the end, because X is simply confusing and S has a bad reputation (with Windows 10 S).
@@WindowsOnWindows I’ve heard a lot of cool things about Windows phone. I never got the chance to use them, but I can definitely see the appeal. It would be a very different world if Microsoft had managed to keep it alive. I may have even given it a try :)
Maybe they pull a Windows 8 and call the new version "Windows 10.1"... wouldn't be the first and I don't see a problem with it. Apple is doing it for decades and it's working out.
I think I might name it based on light (maybe not actually calling it Windows Light, cause I might get confused with "Lite") maybe something like Windows Shine, Bright or Reflection. That sounds cool to me, and also would call homage to the bright future ahead of us (obviously after COVID)
Decent video but I don't think they're going be changing the branding. Microsoft doesn't care about "Windows" as it was. They want a "Modern" Windows. One thing companies do to modernize their products and branding is to sadly simplize the branding. Microsoft changed Windows 10 to just perfering it be called Windows (It is still technically Windows 10) and did the same with the Xbox too. They also (as you said) jumped the version number to 6.4 like Samsung has done and it isn't a good practice especially with Phones and OSs. Honestly, I am curious to see what they come up with, however, I'll probably end up not liking and sticking to Windows 7 as long as I can. I just can't stand the flat UIs, Web apps, UWP, and while they have added a lot of features. The constant stability, Windows Update, and excessive resource hogging honestly out weighs the benefits that I won't be able to use efficiently or at all. Long Live Aero and Windows 7 which has always been speedy, easy to use, usable on practically any PC, and the best looking.
I think they should just have called it 'Windows One' when they did release Windows 10 in 2015, because that name is badass, and it fit with what Microsoft was going for then: continuity. XBox One, Onedrive, Windows One, it just had great synergy. As for what they'd call it now? I want the monikers to come back. I liked XP and Vista, as names, and it would be good to have a Moniker. Windows Unity?
Everyone's expecting "Windows 12" to be the name of the 2024 release, with this year's Windows 11 22H2 being the final version of Windows 11. Hopefully they adopt point releases in the future (Windows 11 22H2 should really be called 11.1). UPDATE: Microsoft now wants us to expect "Windows 11 2024 Update", not "Windows 12".
Bill Gates stated in one of his books that he thought the versions should be named by the year of release, like cars. That should have made it easier for customers to understand versions rather than the obtuse numbers. I no longer have the books so can't give a reference to which one.
@@WindowsOnWindows It was either The Road Ahead or Business at the speed of Thought. Like I said, I no longer have either book so can't pull up a reference point. I read them when they first came out. Both books came with an audio reading of them on CD which was a first.
@@ChoongieStudioONE If the "every 3 years" rumor ends up being true, macOS will be WAY more ahead in version numbers compared to Windows (Windows 12 and macOS 15 in 2024, Windows 13 and macOS 18 in 2027).
I hope MS will return to a Vista-like UI with depth, transparency and shading. It was the best imo.
Or an XP-like UI
@Arhaan Bagewadi bruh like let me turn the real time protection thing off. The false positive keeps deleting the file and I've to download it again 😭😭
Windows 11 is kind of bringing some of those Aero glass effects but not fully
This aged well...
Windows on Windows is one of the best RUclips channels that focus on the history of Microsoft Windows!
Considering the codename "Sun Valley" is floating around, maybe it'll be called Windows Sun Valley, or maybe Windows SV.
This channel is just awesome, glad you're back!
I'd personally call it Windows 21, partly because it sounds nicer imo but also it aligns with the release year, but given the teasers it'll probably be 11. I doubt they'll go with just "Windows" for the same reasons you've stated, and I feel like the changes seem to big to brand it as an update to 10 or even go with 10.1
11 or 21 if microsof using numers again or 10,1
Or sun valley
Another idea: They're pulling an Nvidia (GTX 1080, RTX 2080, RTX 3080...) and call it Windows 20. In another 5-7 years, we'll get Windows 30. (Not likely but ideas)
Since simplicity is the new way of marketing, guarantee you it’s just gonna be called “Windows”. Might be wrong tho lol.
Not a guarantee then XD
Well leaks suggest that they're goin with "Windows Sun Valley". And the fun part is that microsoft leaked it by itself.
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@@starleaf-luna yep...
why do i feel like that new wallpaper is gonna be the default on Windows 11, Windows or whatever its gonna be called
That is what I am wondering.
So technically Microsoft themselves never said Windows 10 would be the last version of Windows, a Microsoft engineer said that
Maybe
That was under a different leadership
This reminds me a lot of that one video you did some number of years ago about Windows naming
It’s basically an updated version. :)
Microsoft could continue the Windows as a service thing, but I think naming the next version something like Windows 2021 would make the most sense. And subsequent versions/updates could be called, Windows 2022, Windows 2023, Windows 2024 etc. This would be the best possible naming scheme in my opinion for various reasons.
1. It would be nostalgic to those who grew up with Windows 95, 98 and 2000 by bringing back the year scheme.
2. This would also technically make Windows 10 just Windows in the future, kinda. The version number would just be more obvious to the user.
3. This would make marketing to next version of Windows much easier and much better. So simple users know which version of Windows specifically they're going to get. When boxed copies only say Windows 10, but not the specific version number.
4. Speaking of, most non-tech savvy people simply only know they're running Windows 10, but don't know which version specifically. I asked my dad (who is pretty tech savvy) which version of Windows 10 he's running (like the version number), and he simply replied "the latest update". Which makes it pretty clear that he doesn't know which version number the "latest update" is. Was it 20H2, or 21H1?
5. This would line up with the Windows Server naming scheme, that already uses the year of release naming scheme.
Love this idea!!
The next Windows is "Windows 10 Sun Valley". That is the official name for that operating system.
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I think we might get both Windows and Windows 11 a the same time. Windows will be the official name of the product after the rebranding while the updates will continue with numerals, so 21H2 would be Windows 11 and 22H? would be Windows 12 and so on
They should just call it Windows xp 20th anniversary edition
I feel like they might be moving toward just calling it “Windows”, which would not surprise me, though me and most of the people I know HATE that idea.
I my input opinion, if I worked with Panos, I would called this new version of Windows, "Windows 10", or "Windows 10 Sun Valley".
Windows 2021 probably
's gonna align with the server versions to avoid confusion
this aged well(not)
I think if they were gonna increment the number, it would be in name only, just like how macOS Big Sur started as 10.16 in beta 1 and later switched to 11.0. It will install like a usual feature update will, and show Windows 11 branding, but just be the same technology as Windows 10. Similar to 8 -> 8.1, instead of 7 -> 8.1 or 8.1 -> 10. I assume that all software and drivers that support Windows 10 in any fashion will support theoretical Windows 11.
I also wonder if this is the year they can 32-bit Windows. Apple abandoned native 32-bit in 2011, and most current Linux distros dont have 32-bit versions anymore. It’s time for Windows to leave 32-bit behind as well.
They went so far with "name only" that they didn't (or forgot to?) increment the NT version from 10 to 11! Definitely makes Windows 11 the Windows equivalent to macOS 11 Big Sur, development process, redesign, etc. They're not doing point releases or "new year, new number" though (rumors point to "new number every 3 years").
this aged like fine wine, what are you, a time traveler?!
From the perspective of technical support, the easiest solution would be to follow the branding of macOS and many Linux distros (Debian, etc.) and have a numbered release every year (probably around September/October, as that is when macOS and Ubuntu release), meaning that the release coming up would be 11 (or maybe 12 if they want to stay on par with macOS), and each month when a major patch is released increment the decimal point (11.1, 11.2, etc._). Having one major update a year to the OS as opposed to the two that they do currently would give more time for each major version to be polished, and help avoid any major disasters.
I think it's just gonna be called Windows (no 10 or 11), but maybe they will continue to use the Year-Half version scheme they started to use not too long ago, for example, Windows 21H2 or 22H1. And internally, maybe bump the NT kernel version (11.0).
Oh, and Windows Server will continue to use years (like Windows Server 2022, which MS just finished its development).
It will be called Windows 20 (because it's the 20's). Screencap this.
I think one thing they could call it is _Windows Series_ or something similar since with Windows 10, they released Windows 10X and Windows 10S, which kind of followed the Xbox One revision names (Xbox One S/X). And since the current generation of Xbox is called Xbox Series X/S, they could take some inspiration from that. I don't think they add X or S at the end, because X is simply confusing and S has a bad reputation (with Windows 10 S).
Lol imagine Windows Series S or Windows Series X 😂
this comment aged like milk
Sun Valley is Windows 11.
I'd call it Windows 21 because of the year of release
I'm leaning more towards Windows 11.
Windows Series __
6:22 Windows channel talking about windows and then the Apple sound plays in the background
Hey I’d love to still be able to use my Windows phone if I could do everything I needed on it!
@@WindowsOnWindows I’ve heard a lot of cool things about Windows phone. I never got the chance to use them, but I can definitely see the appeal. It would be a very different world if Microsoft had managed to keep it alive. I may have even given it a try :)
@@deathdogg0 Best phone OS I ever used, no contest. Real shame it never caught on and it took me a long time to get over having to move on!
Well XP was released in 2001, now it's 2021, hmmmm O.o is it all coming together?!
How about Windows Series Three Hundred and Sixty SX?
My predictions are either Windows 22, or Windows N
Maybe they pull a Windows 8 and call the new version "Windows 10.1"... wouldn't be the first and I don't see a problem with it. Apple is doing it for decades and it's working out.
I really hope MS returns to a windows 7 UI on the next new version of windows!!
I think the reason why there's a 11 is because the event is at 11am PT
That just feels like it's pointing us towards W11.
1,2,3,95,98,2000,XP,Vista,7,8,10
Yeah, the list is not complete but this is the main string. It's a mess.
I have 4 suggestions!
Windows®
Windows 11
Windows 20
Windows 2021
Imma call it Windows Nova or just Windows 11/21.
I think I might name it based on light (maybe not actually calling it Windows Light, cause I might get confused with "Lite") maybe something like Windows Shine, Bright or Reflection. That sounds cool to me, and also would call homage to the bright future ahead of us (obviously after COVID)
Windows Shine or Windows Reflection would be perfect versions to bring back Aero
@@RandomGuy37 oh yeah, noice lol
Windows Aurora?
@@GumSkyloard that also works
I NEED THAT SONG
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Decent video but I don't think they're going be changing the branding. Microsoft doesn't care about "Windows" as it was. They want a "Modern" Windows. One thing companies do to modernize their products and branding is to sadly simplize the branding. Microsoft changed Windows 10 to just perfering it be called Windows (It is still technically Windows 10) and did the same with the Xbox too. They also (as you said) jumped the version number to 6.4 like Samsung has done and it isn't a good practice especially with Phones and OSs. Honestly, I am curious to see what they come up with, however, I'll probably end up not liking and sticking to Windows 7 as long as I can. I just can't stand the flat UIs, Web apps, UWP, and while they have added a lot of features. The constant stability, Windows Update, and excessive resource hogging honestly out weighs the benefits that I won't be able to use efficiently or at all. Long Live Aero and Windows 7 which has always been speedy, easy to use, usable on practically any PC, and the best looking.
Agreed with your points about Windows 7…don’t think they’re ever going to top that.
I think they should just have called it 'Windows One' when they did release Windows 10 in 2015, because that name is badass, and it fit with what Microsoft was going for then: continuity. XBox One, Onedrive, Windows One, it just had great synergy. As for what they'd call it now? I want the monikers to come back. I liked XP and Vista, as names, and it would be good to have a Moniker. Windows Unity?
Everyone's expecting "Windows 12" to be the name of the 2024 release, with this year's Windows 11 22H2 being the final version of Windows 11. Hopefully they adopt point releases in the future (Windows 11 22H2 should really be called 11.1).
UPDATE: Microsoft now wants us to expect "Windows 11 2024 Update", not "Windows 12".
I like this video!
Wasn't Windows 10 supposed to be the last version of Windows?
Windows 9 was also supposed to exist at first, but the world's weird.
What is the sound of your intro, sounds like vista/7 sound
It is a pitched version of the Windows Vista Media Center startup sound. :)
@@WindowsOnWindows thx
Bill Gates stated in one of his books that he thought the versions should be named by the year of release, like cars. That should have made it easier for customers to understand versions rather than the obtuse numbers. I no longer have the books so can't give a reference to which one.
Very interesting, Frank! Would love to find out more about this.
@@WindowsOnWindows It was either The Road Ahead or Business at the speed of Thought. Like I said, I no longer have either book so can't pull up a reference point. I read them when they first came out. Both books came with an audio reading of them on CD which was a first.
So basically
Kinda like macOS turning into 11 with Big Sur
yeah, if macOS moved on from Version 10.X, then why won't Microsoft do the same?
@@ChoongieStudioONE If the "every 3 years" rumor ends up being true, macOS will be WAY more ahead in version numbers compared to Windows (Windows 12 and macOS 15 in 2024, Windows 13 and macOS 18 in 2027).
Finally new betas to leak!
Redpill like programs anyone?
this aged badly
No this age is a very well
What would I call it?
PanOS, of course. Duh.
Windows sv or maybe windows 10.1 or microsof os 11
Can't wait for this video to age awfully just like the first time, lol
Windows 11
Name it Windows 10.1
That would've been the number for Windows 10 Anniversary Update (1607) if they did point releases, but they didn't.