2022-01-11 Kwontum Physics: Ground Reaction Force (GRF) on Dr Kwon Golf

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  • Опубликовано: 10 дек 2024
  • Young-Hoo Kwon, Ph.D.
    Professor & Director, Biomechanics Laboratory, Texas Woman's University, Denton, TX
    ykwon@twu.edu | kwon3d@kwon3d.com
    drkwongolf.info
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Комментарии • 84

  • @peteraje8415
    @peteraje8415 2 года назад +1

    Dr. Kwon, you are giving away all our secrets.
    Seriously, this this couple with any number of your previous videos provides as much as one needs.

  • @KirkBrown
    @KirkBrown 2 года назад +2

    Thank you Dr. Kwon! Your knowledge and expertise is a blessing to the golf community!

  • @Murf1802
    @Murf1802 2 года назад +4

    Amazing knowledge, Thank you for letting me understand how the forces work in Golf swing!! I'm definitely going to replay this video a few times to understand a few things, one thing I'm getting out of your work is don't be stagnant, move ,move ,move in the right format to get the most out of my forces!! I'm loving the slight move on front foot to start the swing this has helped me to get into rhythm like never before so Thank you for that ,I believe you call it a trigger, Awesome!

  • @MrBrokentowels
    @MrBrokentowels 2 года назад +2

    Please keep doing more videos Dr Kwon!

  • @mllm5818
    @mllm5818 2 года назад +6

    This is fantastic! Thanks a lot for your videos! Greetings from Europe.

  • @suemullinjer8196
    @suemullinjer8196 2 года назад +4

    Dr Kwon, I am a amateur golfer with a handicap index of 12.9 hoping to become a single figure in near future. I have been exploring different swing styles in past two years. I think that I naturally have a bit of re-center motion ie having my back facing the target while moving forward towards the target in the early part of down swing. I hit the balls longer whenever I do that. My driving distance of around 200 yards in UK winter is considered long for my handicap. I am so happy to find your channel and your theories explain the science behind it. I am now more confident in developing that feeling and I am gaining extra 10 to 20 yards. Thank you very much!
    However I have a couple of questions for you:
    1), I am not that consistent hitting iron with this style as it is not easy for me to move my center of weight forward enough in order to hit down on the ball. It is shorter time frame for iron shot. I have to adapt to much narrow stance for irons in order to turn better and keep my weight not too much back. Any advice on this?
    2) Would you please do some videos re grips and club face etc? Now I get the distance going, I would like to have more consistence on direction.
    Many thanks in advance!

    • @leesorung
      @leesorung Год назад

      Hi. I have the same issues as you. My driver got longer and better but struggling with irons. Any advice would be great.

  • @jamescampbell9157
    @jamescampbell9157 2 года назад

    Dr. Kwon is a genius. Everything about the golf swing is made simple. I have adjusted all aspects even my grip to accommodate these swing kinetics. IMPROVEMENT? YES INDEED!!!

  • @andersdannstedt6022
    @andersdannstedt6022 2 года назад +2

    As an engineer it is really interesting to get a scientific explanation of how the forces act during the swing. The next question is how these forces, and torques, translate to club head speed. I hope you will come to this later. Until then, keep up the good work 👏

    • @drkwongolf
      @drkwongolf  2 года назад +4

      In the long run, I will cover what happens to the body and club motion during the DS.

  • @Murf1802
    @Murf1802 2 года назад

    I love the stepping like Rhythm comment, make all the sense in what your teaching !! Perfect Ty!

  • @kevinsmith5806
    @kevinsmith5806 2 года назад +1

    Dr Kwon, great stuff. Working at it for a few days now and will follow your drills to help finally get to the body swing and away from arms only.
    Have you ever heard of or worked with JJ Rivet who does work on biomechanics for members of the European tour and also with David Leadbetter?

  • @suemullinjer8196
    @suemullinjer8196 2 года назад

    Enlightening! Makes so much sense! I am a big fan of yours.

  • @richgrisham
    @richgrisham 2 года назад

    Thank you, Dr. Kwon. You can tell that you love to teach.

  • @bobflitton6430
    @bobflitton6430 2 года назад +1

    Very informative Dr kwon , if you understand what’s happening in your swing it seems it easier to perform it . Awesome

  • @jedigunn
    @jedigunn 2 года назад

    Thank you, Kwon-Gyo-Su-Nym for sharing this great info.

  • @michael_somers
    @michael_somers 2 года назад

    Thank you Dr Kwon!

  • @thomasterpager
    @thomasterpager 2 года назад +1

    Amazingly helpful to better understand important parts of the swing - it seems the angle of hip is very important ? If yes what are the limiting factors - when is it overdone!

  • @kimnielsen-kolding2836
    @kimnielsen-kolding2836 Год назад

    Brilliant !

  • @qianliyang1459
    @qianliyang1459 2 года назад

    Thank you very much for your work, it's very precious to me.

  • @cmalc8
    @cmalc8 2 года назад

    It's incredibly educational to see that the peak lead foot force is over 60% higher than the peak trail foot force. Intuition would wrongly suggest that pushing off the back foot would be strongest.

  • @frednegus7017
    @frednegus7017 2 года назад

    Now I understand your step and turn drill.

  • @손주환-j1q
    @손주환-j1q 2 года назад

    감사합니다
    박사님^^

  • @Dodgymansps
    @Dodgymansps 2 года назад

    Incredible information. Sincerely, thank you.

  • @mfarnworth7636
    @mfarnworth7636 2 года назад +1

    would you do a short illustration on what most of us average golfers look like with our weak forces and torques? that would be helpful to compare and give insights. thanks

  • @kevochanner8859
    @kevochanner8859 2 года назад

    Pure gold information 👍🏻

  • @paybax
    @paybax 2 года назад +1

    Amazing info 👌

  • @wagvice1
    @wagvice1 2 года назад

    Wonderful explanation, thanks very much!

  • @denuccigolfs622
    @denuccigolfs622 2 года назад

    I really want to get on his software and see what I’m truly doing with all my forces. I can get into mid 130s club head speed and want to control it to take advantage of the speed !

  • @danf2588
    @danf2588 2 года назад

    Fascinating!

  • @shiwonsmum
    @shiwonsmum 2 года назад

    Thank you very much.

  • @jdstubbs9971
    @jdstubbs9971 2 года назад

    So good. Thanks! 😀🏌️

  • @seankim9683
    @seankim9683 2 года назад +1

    Dr. Kwon, how is 'active backswing' related to torque generation explained above in overall swing power generation?

  • @jeffreyanderson5106
    @jeffreyanderson5106 2 года назад

    Thank you sir

  • @honorrespect5894
    @honorrespect5894 Год назад

    I am just starting to understand the importance of the outward pressure of the feet to the ground, how do you train this down and outward pressure?
    Thanks
    Good Video

    • @drkwongolf
      @drkwongolf  Год назад

      You have to push down anyways so just directing the push laterally outward should do. But to push good, you have to use the right leg to support your body in the BS. If the right hip moves backward quite a bit, you cannot use the right leg that well during the BS.

  • @rhanify
    @rhanify 2 года назад

    Great video! Could you explicate your 11 stages of the swing? Is each stage defined by the club position or hand/arm position or force min/max/inflection? Thanks!

  • @jackflash8756
    @jackflash8756 2 года назад

    From ED to BI, why is the combined vertical GRF decreasing when the dynamic weight of the golf club is increasing to about 100 lbs force? I would have suspected that the golfer would need to progressively push more into the ground to prevent that dynamic weight from pulling him off balance.

    • @drkwongolf
      @drkwongolf  2 года назад

      What is dynamic weight? I've never heard of it. Inertial force?

    • @jackflash8756
      @jackflash8756 2 года назад

      The equal and opposite pull force on the hands by the grip. Some would call it the centrifugal force.

  • @robertlozano6546
    @robertlozano6546 2 года назад

    Dr Kwon,
    Their has been some training devices the is essentially a board that promotes a squeezing of both legs in backswing and downswing.
    This action would create medial horizontal forces and not the preferred lateral. What are your thoughts?

  • @JonathanTaylor63
    @JonathanTaylor63 2 года назад

    Thank you for an excellent explanation of ground reaction force! Can you tell me if the torque applied to the ground by the trail foot also creates horizontal force?

    • @drkwongolf
      @drkwongolf  2 года назад +1

      To be precise, a torque cannot create a force. Instead, an off-center force creates a torque. The trail foot force (horizontal & vertical) participates in torque generation. It can add torque or cancel out a portion of the lead foot torque depending on the direction of the trail foot force.

    • @JonathanTaylor63
      @JonathanTaylor63 2 года назад

      Thank you for taking the time to answer my question and for the quick response! If the trail foot tries to rotate inside the trail shoe (toes moving away from the target)which resists, is it exerting a horizontal force relative to the target or torque with the ground and trail leg? I am examining ways to produce the horizontal force needed to tilt the direction of the reaction force.

    • @user-gcsu
      @user-gcsu 2 года назад

      @@JonathanTaylor63 By pushing to the right of the trail foot, a lateral force generated and propagating through a tiny bit of distance onto the lateral malleolus, resulting in a reaction torque at the medial malleolus.

  • @paull286
    @paull286 2 года назад

    fantastic

  • @oldprogolf7292
    @oldprogolf7292 2 года назад

    What is the greatest component of "unweighting" in this golfer? Is it the downward movement of the club and arms or a dipping of head and shoulders? I am interested in why some golfers dip and others do not. I can not understand how pushing up vertically after dipping produces club head speed as some claim (without giving evidence).

    • @drkwongolf
      @drkwongolf  2 года назад +1

      Lets make it simple. Unweighting means the force you are exerting to the ground is less than the body weight. So the key is not to push the ground as hard using your legs. This usually happens at the end of an upward motion or at the beginning of a downward motion. I will do an episode on this.

    • @oldprogolf7292
      @oldprogolf7292 2 года назад

      @@drkwongolf thank you, I look forward to that.

    • @drkwongolf
      @drkwongolf  2 года назад

      @@oldprogolf7292 And also, here is the link to a study we did: doi.org/10.1080/14763141.2019.1574887. In this paper, you will see significant correlations between force peaks and the clubhead speed, including the vertical peak in the DS.

    • @daviddonofrio3229
      @daviddonofrio3229 2 года назад

      @@drkwongolf this link is spring board diving?

    • @drkwongolf
      @drkwongolf  2 года назад

      @@daviddonofrio3229 Let me check the link again.

  • @cmalc8
    @cmalc8 2 года назад

    Would you please be kind enough to supply all the acronym names 1-11. I can see 6=Top Backswing, D=downswing and 10=Ball Impact, maybe 11=Move Forward?

    • @drkwongolf
      @drkwongolf  2 года назад

      1. BA: breakaway
      2. MB: mid BS
      3. LBA: late BS, [lead] arm-based
      4. LB: late BS
      5. EPR: end of pelvis rotation
      6. TB: top of BS
      7. EDA: early DS, [lead] arm-based
      8. ED: early DS
      9. MD: mid DS
      10. BI: ball impact
      11. MF: mid FT
      12. LF: late FT

  • @markymark7044
    @markymark7044 2 года назад

    Superb Dr. Kwon, my son is in college studying Sport Science in Kansas and plays golf for the team, do you accommodate the swing analysis sessions over Spring Break, so he can get down there to see you? It will be great for his own swing and for him to gain a basic understanding of biometrics, which he want to pursue after college. Sent him your videos which is an education in itself!

    • @drkwongolf
      @drkwongolf  2 года назад

      When is his spring break? During our spring break (March 14-20), I won't be here due to a family trip.

    • @markymark7044
      @markymark7044 2 года назад

      @@drkwongolf I'm afraid his spring break is the same week, I will see when he can get down, it would be really good for him to experience.

    • @drkwongolf
      @drkwongolf  2 года назад +1

      @@markymark7044 Definitely!

  • @robertlozano6546
    @robertlozano6546 Год назад

    So having a good recentering with pressure shift to lead foot would happen with good horizontal force. What other force reactions would you see?

    • @drkwongolf
      @drkwongolf  Год назад

      What makes one golfer different from another is mainly what is happening in the frontal view. Both the horizontal and vertical interactions with ground matter.

  • @grifgolfclub7355
    @grifgolfclub7355 2 года назад

    Very interesting, how do we set up an appointment?

    • @drkwongolf
      @drkwongolf  2 года назад

      drkwongolf.info/swing_anal.html

  • @daviddonofrio3229
    @daviddonofrio3229 2 года назад

    If i understand this correctly it appears that the horizontal ground force along with simultaneous unweighting is the key to maximizing inclination. So if you have two golfers of same weight and stature, what is the one with more inclination doing to get more horizontal ground force? Is it just swinging back faster?

    • @drkwongolf
      @drkwongolf  2 года назад

      The direct outcome of a larger horizontal force is a larger lateral motion of the body. So if you allow more lateral motion of the pelvis (and the body above), that means you have more horizontal force.

    • @daviddonofrio3229
      @daviddonofrio3229 2 года назад

      Thank you,if you could show Ground Horizontal Force during the swing cycle that would be very helpful to see when its peaking,what’s happening during unweighting, etc

  • @gtubemanor
    @gtubemanor 2 года назад

    Can you explain why the GRF is low at impact? I thought it would be very high. thanks

    • @drkwongolf
      @drkwongolf  2 года назад +2

      It is because of the hard push during the downswing when the club aligns vertically. Your body moves upward as a result and the vertical force decrease toward the impact.

    • @gtubemanor
      @gtubemanor 2 года назад

      @@drkwongolf thank you!

  • @markwylam5213
    @markwylam5213 2 года назад +1

    Do I assume that this discussion is only about the "frontal plane" torque?

    • @drkwongolf
      @drkwongolf  2 года назад +1

      So far yes frontal plane only. The next episode will be on the horizontal plane torque.

  • @bf2539
    @bf2539 2 года назад

    the rope that you use to get a feel for your swing, how long is that rope.

    • @drkwongolf
      @drkwongolf  2 года назад

      7' or 5-6 iron length when folded.

  • @benhikingoutdoors1632
    @benhikingoutdoors1632 2 года назад

    Do the step drills promote a sqaure club face at impact?

    • @VoodooZ
      @VoodooZ 2 года назад

      that's my issue with this... It might be good at optimizing swing speed in good players but I doubt it will help with bad grips and lacking clubface control on lesser players (ie. me)... Still very interesting..

    • @suivzmoi
      @suivzmoi 2 года назад

      this has always been about promoting efficient use of effort in your golf swing. anyone concerned about this is already at an advance stage. in fact if you dont have your basic fundamentals down, this may hurt your game since it involves very dynamic weight transfers from lead to trail and back to lead. beginners may benefit more from stack and tilt which do in fact promote square club face and consistent low point control...at the cost of a limited power ceiling.

    • @jarrettfoust1610
      @jarrettfoust1610 2 года назад +1

      So, recentering motions in the properly performed swing would be the result of a proper administration of an outward trail side pushing force? The ground reaction force would be horizontal, pushing your upper body to the middle?

    • @sageagbonkhese4091
      @sageagbonkhese4091 2 года назад +1

      @@suivzmoi Beginners that want to improve should get a coach and NOT try to fix their golf swing by themselves. Get a coach you can collaborate with so you can build your own swing. A good coach will help you achieve using ground forces properly based on your own needs.

    • @nokia5359
      @nokia5359 2 года назад

      @@suivzmoi Agree 💯 %.
      these series are to explain how and when the body movement generate most centrifugal force in a swing. you can substitute the golf club with an ax or a sword or a racquet and still obtain the same results.
      so it is not about a golf swing but about how to make the most force out of your swinging.

  • @nextbounce1724
    @nextbounce1724 2 года назад

    I’m not sure this is helpful for the average golfer.
    It’s very easy to get lost in the model which is a limited abstraction to gain insight.
    The challenge for the teacher is to connect “feels with reals”! Different feels can go with the same “real”, regardless of the model for the “real”.
    Good model!