This was great! I haven't ventured into Lake Pigments yet, but you have gotten me MOTIVATED to give it a try with my next dye bath :) Thanks! Great Video!
just what I needed. My lake pigments from red roses keeps turning green! So helpful as I figured out my problem, I think. will have to try another batch. was not aware that the soda ash needed to be in direct proportion to the concentration of the alum used, that the whole 10 gm of mordant didn't need to be added. I've saved this, will watch it and take notes the next time I am ready to try again. May actually try with some dye before I try using actual plants.
Great video! I found myself really distracted at times by your pretty kitty (such a cute face!), so I missed a few things, but the beauty of video is that I could go back and try to focus better, lol! This was such fantastic and detailed info. I've done a lot of dyeing and made inks with lots of natural and foraged materials, but I've never tried a lake pigment. So excited! Thanks! 😍
What a nice tutorial ! Am going to experiment w the supranatent as the Sagebrush supranatent came out dark yellow, and again when strained off (after the Al and alk.). Maybe can try supranatent for dying fabrics. Was going to add borax solution to wood (supposed to help with pest./most fungus/fire) but will try if use in place of or with Alum for another Lake pigment
Very well explained. 🌸 Loved the avocado pit pigment. 💕 (( I was holding my cat 🐈⬛ whilst watching this… so it was fun seeing how you didn’t miss a beat when yours entered the taping. 🐱 }}
This is a lovely video, especially with the trouble-shooting in it. I have heard that some people don't rinse the pigment after the first filtering and you said it may not be suitable for certain applications if not. So if I intend to use the pigments for painting/printing on fabrics, would you say it would be better to rinse once more, or not? My weld pigment did actually crystalize a little, so I am not sure what I can do with it and what not. I have a second dye pot of weld and would like to know before I make a lake. Thanks so much.
H! I start making my lake pigment from tea for the first time，because I think the colour is really beautiful, I could see a light brown precipitate, but when the paint dried it turned completely white. Is there something wrong with my program? Thank you！
I think it might be because tea that’s steeped normally is very low in tannins (what I think makes it brown, but also males some teas taste super bitter) so there probably wasn’t enough to bind into the mordant. That’d be my quess.
Hoi Marleen, fijn filmpje weer. Ik kijk altijs zo uit naar jouw filmpjes. Je bent zo gezellig, enthousiast & puur!! Wat misschien een tip is voor het breien van je mouwen voor dat prachtige vest met schitterende kleuren ... Ik heb ooit een workshop gevolgd bij bloemedalwol in Eindhoven om een kledingstuk uit 1 stuk op maatvte kunnen breien. Daarbij hebben we toen een begin gemaakt met de mouwinzet van een soort mouw uit jouw vestje. Dan hoef je dus niet altijd meer een raglan te gebruiken. Het boek wat ze toen gebruikte heet: Asa tricosa ziggurats. De paddenstoel is ook heel mooi, creatieve dochter heb je!
I didn’t start with a fugitive dye it was full strength made with acorn shells. I am wondering why supernatant is not transparent? I did get a good separation but it’s not clear.
I attempted lake pigments 4 times . And finally on the fourth try when it came to the step of adding in the soda Ash, I finally saw the effervescence. Then I let it sit for 24 hours and I finally saw supernaitance I don’t think I spelled that right. Then my lake was drying, and then I was trying to filter it and then it just completely dissolved in the water and when I put it through the coffee filter, it just all poured out and it was ruined. Do you have any advice? And I did use rainwater to try to wash my leg pigment. I don’t know if that was a bad idea. Should I have warmed the water? I don’t know maybe next time I should use distilled, but it just completely dissolved and it was just filtered and just watered through the coffee filter and there was no lake pigment anymore.
hello I have just followed your steps and when I tried to wash the pigment ( I added fresh water to the extracted pigment) it seemed like it dissolved again in the water because when i poured it through the filter it all passed through, do you have any advice? Im a bit lost. Thank you for this tutorial its really amazing and helpful !
Thank you for the tutorial. My water doesn’t seem to be clearing. What could I of done wrong? I followed several different tutorials but didn’t test the ph. Any advice would be greatly appreciated 😬
I’ve used this tutorial a couple of times now and find it super useful. However, when I try to focus on getting the PH to neutral, I have no luck getting it to separate. When I just basically dump more alum in, it does. It doesn’t get clear on top, but I definitely get particles on the bottom and I’m able to strain it and then dry it. Honestly my theory is that I need better PH strips. I’d love to know if you have any thoughts on what’s happening.
Interesting! The pH strips could definitely be the issue. I’ve been using my meter lately and It’s been really helpful. What is the pH reading when the precipitation begins?
Hello!! Love your videos. You make it look so easy and fun. I've managed some good eco printing :) I did although try to make a lake pigment with aome left over eastern brazilwood dye. For some reason, my sodium carbonate does not cause any effervescence. Also, the liquid is extremely basic and I tried adding more alum but stopped at some point. I did finish the process. I have the pigment which is very different colour from what I started with and I have no way to tell if its okay. Not sure whats happening.
Thank you! No, not unless a hazardous mordant was used such as tin. The goal is that all of the mordant is bound to the dye so the supernatant is mostly water.
I was thinking about doing the same thing. Today, I called Dharma Co. (one of the biggest dye manufacturers in the US for fabric), and asked them about converting their dyes into pigments, using the lake process you are showing in this video. They said that the resultant pigment will be very fugitive because the dye is fugitive. They produce their dyes by chemical processes, so they are NOT natural dyes. This should eliminate the possibility of the dye being fugitive, but I really don't know. Did you ever try light fastness of your paintings with the pigments you produced using lakes? How long can a painting stay under sunlight without fading? Also, the ratio of potash, KAl(SO4)2, to soda ash, Na2SO4, is 1.62:1, not 2:1. That is 2 moles of KAl(SO4)2 = 516gr vs 3 moles of Na2SO4 = 318gr should neutralize each other in a chemical reaction. Thanks for the eye-opener video :-))
Yes, altered, a salt of aluminum often potassium alum or sodium alum. I NEVER recommend wikipedia but in this case Alum was written by a science teacher - what's up at the moment anyway. The first paragraph is technical scientific formula but after that it explains the different kinds. All have aluminum in their formula though. I just checked the wording in there by searching the keywords online for science pro sources.
Does anyone reckon I could use aluminum acetate for my mordant and soda crystals for my alkali? I want to try and save some dye baths I've just made yesterday but on a time limit and these are what I have to hand
How long does it usually take for your pigment to filter through the coffee filter? Mine has been sitting for a couple hours and I’m wondering if I did something wrong. 😬
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Fascinating! Exactly what I was looking for - making dyes (powders or pastes) that can be applied to various products. Thank you so much.
Thank you for this amazing video. I’m venturing into creating pigment so this was perfect timing!
Wonderful!! Happy laking! ☺️
This was great! I haven't ventured into Lake Pigments yet, but you have gotten me MOTIVATED to give it a try with my next dye bath :) Thanks! Great Video!
Awesome Laura! It really is a fun way to preserve color! Happy laking. :)
The best tutorial about lake pigments I have seen. Thank you, this is so helpful!
Thank you Marie! So glad you found it helpful. ☺️
just what I needed. My lake pigments from red roses keeps turning green! So helpful as I figured out my problem, I think. will have to try another batch. was not aware that the soda ash needed to be in direct proportion to the concentration of the alum used, that the whole 10 gm of mordant didn't need to be added. I've saved this, will watch it and take notes the next time I am ready to try again. May actually try with some dye before I try using actual plants.
how do you do this process using chalk as the ph modifier?
You doing a great job by explaining every detail. Some will ask to pay.
Thank you!
Great video! I found myself really distracted at times by your pretty kitty (such a cute face!), so I missed a few things, but the beauty of video is that I could go back and try to focus better, lol! This was such fantastic and detailed info. I've done a lot of dyeing and made inks with lots of natural and foraged materials, but I've never tried a lake pigment. So excited! Thanks! 😍
What a nice tutorial ! Am going to experiment w the supranatent as the Sagebrush supranatent came out dark yellow, and again when strained off (after the Al and alk.). Maybe can try supranatent for dying fabrics. Was going to add borax solution to wood (supposed to help with pest./most fungus/fire) but will try if use in place of or with Alum for another Lake pigment
thank you! this was so helpful. making my first lake pigment now!
Wonderful tutorial!! I'd like to make oil pastels from my lake pigments...
Thank you! Oil pastels are fun and easy to make! I hope you get the chance to try.
How do I make paint with lake pigments to use on recycled paper? Would I just let the rinsed lake pigment dry on templates for painting?
Very well explained. 🌸 Loved the avocado pit pigment. 💕
(( I was holding my cat 🐈⬛ whilst watching this…
so it was fun seeing how you didn’t miss a beat
when yours entered the taping. 🐱 }}
Thank you! :) My cat is so funny - I think he knows when I'm filming and always seems to want to be a part of the show.
Really wonderful job! Very informative. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you!!
This is a lovely video, especially with the trouble-shooting in it. I have heard that some people don't rinse the pigment after the first filtering and you said it may not be suitable for certain applications if not. So if I intend to use the pigments for painting/printing on fabrics, would you say it would be better to rinse once more, or not? My weld pigment did actually crystalize a little, so I am not sure what I can do with it and what not. I have a second dye pot of weld and would like to know before I make a lake. Thanks so much.
This was a very clear tutorial. But what do you do with the lake pigments ? How do you use them?
H! I start making my lake pigment from tea for the first time，because I think the colour is really beautiful, I could see a light brown precipitate, but when the paint dried it turned completely white. Is there something wrong with my program? Thank you！
I think it might be because tea that’s steeped normally is very low in tannins (what I think makes it brown, but also males some teas taste super bitter) so there probably wasn’t enough to bind into the mordant. That’d be my quess.
@@merri_spiderly6017 thank you！
Hoi Marleen, fijn filmpje weer.
Ik kijk altijs zo uit naar jouw filmpjes. Je bent zo gezellig, enthousiast & puur!!
Wat misschien een tip is voor het breien van je mouwen voor dat prachtige vest met schitterende kleuren ...
Ik heb ooit een workshop gevolgd bij bloemedalwol in Eindhoven om een kledingstuk uit 1 stuk op maatvte kunnen breien.
Daarbij hebben we toen een begin gemaakt met de mouwinzet van een soort mouw uit jouw vestje. Dan hoef je dus niet altijd meer een raglan te gebruiken.
Het boek wat ze toen gebruikte heet: Asa tricosa ziggurats.
De paddenstoel is ook heel mooi, creatieve dochter heb je!
Très intéressant mais trop compliqué pour moi, merci pour le partage 😉
I didn’t start with a fugitive dye it was full strength made with acorn shells. I am wondering why supernatant is not transparent? I did get a good separation but it’s not clear.
Often full strength dyes need more alum and soda ash than used dye baths. In the future, the supernatant can be laked again if it’s not clear.
I attempted lake pigments 4 times . And finally on the fourth try when it came to the step of adding in the soda Ash, I finally saw the effervescence. Then I let it sit for 24 hours and I finally saw supernaitance I don’t think I spelled that right. Then my lake was drying, and then I was trying to filter it and then it just completely dissolved in the water and when I put it through the coffee filter, it just all poured out and it was ruined. Do you have any advice? And I did use rainwater to try to wash my leg pigment. I don’t know if that was a bad idea. Should I have warmed the water? I don’t know maybe next time I should use distilled, but it just completely dissolved and it was just filtered and just watered through the coffee filter and there was no lake pigment anymore.
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Hi dear.Can we use these for our hair?And dye for cotton?
Thanks for this tutorial ! How does the "Split Lake" technique work ? You mention protein fibers, does that mean it would work on silk ? Thanks !
Thank you for a great intro tutorial ❤
What is your ration for dissolving the alum and soda ash in water. I would think too much water would dilute it. I’m excited to try this video
this is really helpful! but do you think i can use lime as a substitute to alum?
hello I have just followed your steps and when I tried to wash the pigment ( I added fresh water to the extracted pigment) it seemed like it dissolved again in the water because when i poured it through the filter it all passed through, do you have any advice? Im a bit lost. Thank you for this tutorial its really amazing and helpful !
Alum bonds break with citric acid, maybe there was something in your water?
This is exactly what mine did damn this is frustrating
Good assistant 10/10
I have been trying lake pigments to make watercolor and ink. Do you have any suggestions on how to make the ink out of the pigment.
Do you have to wash the pigment with fermented indigo paste?
Have you tried painting on fabric?
I love so much this tutorial! Fascinating and very well explain! Just brilliant ❤️🌸
Thank you! 💗
This is a fantastic video Jamie. Thank you for sharing x
Thank you so much Kelly!
@@thebarefootdyer no thank you Jamie. I love the way you describe everything its really wonderful
thank you so much for you video! it was soo much help and made everything much clearer!
So glad to hear that! ☺️
Hi! Loved your video explaining all these things about lake pigments! Just a question about it, can you use tap water to extract dye from plants?
Thank you for the tutorial. My water doesn’t seem to be clearing. What could I of done wrong? I followed several different tutorials but didn’t test the ph. Any advice would be greatly appreciated 😬
Thank you 💚lovely tutorial with very clear instructions. I'm inspired 😊
good morning, is that pigment with oil can be used to dye leather
can you use something other than aluminium which is toxic?
Merci beaucoup pour ce tutoriel, il est vraiment génial!!!
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Thank you for this video, do you always wash your pigment?
Greetings Karin
I’ve used this tutorial a couple of times now and find it super useful. However, when I try to focus on getting the PH to neutral, I have no luck getting it to separate. When I just basically dump more alum in, it does. It doesn’t get clear on top, but I definitely get particles on the bottom and I’m able to strain it and then dry it. Honestly my theory is that I need better PH strips. I’d love to know if you have any thoughts on what’s happening.
Interesting! The pH strips could definitely be the issue. I’ve been using my meter lately and It’s been really helpful. What is the pH reading when the precipitation begins?
@@thebarefootdyer I’ll have to let you know next time, I admit I used my last one today 😅
It was definitely acidic after I added 10g alum and 5g soda ash to my dye
@@folklore.fibres It could be that the dye itself was alkaline to begin with so it needed an extra dose of acid to neutralize.
Hello!! Love your videos. You make it look so easy and fun. I've managed some good eco printing :) I did although try to make a lake pigment with aome left over eastern brazilwood dye. For some reason, my sodium carbonate does not cause any effervescence. Also, the liquid is extremely basic and I tried adding more alum but stopped at some point. I did finish the process. I have the pigment which is very different colour from what I started with and I have no way to tell if its okay. Not sure whats happening.
My soda ash did not cause effervescence either.
Thanks for the great video! How do you dispose of the supernatant? Does it need to go through hazardous waste processes?
Thank you!
No, not unless a hazardous mordant was used such as tin. The goal is that all of the mordant is bound to the dye so the supernatant is mostly water.
I was thinking about doing the same thing. Today, I called Dharma Co. (one of the biggest dye manufacturers in the US for fabric), and asked them about converting their dyes into pigments, using the lake process you are showing in this video. They said that the resultant pigment will be very fugitive because the dye is fugitive. They produce their dyes by chemical processes, so they are NOT natural dyes. This should eliminate the possibility of the dye being fugitive, but I really don't know. Did you ever try light fastness of your paintings with the pigments you produced using lakes? How long can a painting stay under sunlight without fading? Also, the ratio of potash, KAl(SO4)2, to soda ash, Na2SO4, is 1.62:1, not 2:1. That is 2 moles of KAl(SO4)2 = 516gr vs 3 moles of Na2SO4 = 318gr should neutralize each other in a chemical reaction. Thanks for the eye-opener video :-))
is alum aluminium?
Yes, altered, a salt of aluminum often potassium alum or sodium alum. I NEVER recommend wikipedia but in this case Alum was written by a science teacher - what's up at the moment anyway. The first paragraph is technical scientific formula but after that it explains the different kinds. All have aluminum in their formula though. I just checked the wording in there by searching the keywords online for science pro sources.
Does anyone reckon I could use aluminum acetate for my mordant and soda crystals for my alkali? I want to try and save some dye baths I've just made yesterday but on a time limit and these are what I have to hand
Great tutorial
Thank you!
How long does it usually take for your pigment to filter through the coffee filter? Mine has been sitting for a couple hours and I’m wondering if I did something wrong. 😬
Sorry to just be responding. It can take up to 24 hours.
Hi Jamie, thank you for this tutorial. Can I use lake pigments to dye fabric?
They can be used to dye wool but, unfortunately, can’t be used for cellulose fibers.
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