RUINED by Understeer :( Porsche GT3 FAST, but GT3 RS FASTER / Nürburgring

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  • Опубликовано: 10 дек 2024

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  • @mikaeltornberg
    @mikaeltornberg 2 года назад +155

    Thank you for a great lap Misha. Amazing how little traffic we had considering how many cars it had been just an hour earlier. If you can read "sign language", my opinion is "spoken" around the 4:30 mark ;) hahaha

    • @mgcharoudin
      @mgcharoudin  2 года назад +24

      Thank you so much for this amazing experience!!!

    • @carl7298
      @carl7298 2 года назад +7

      Wow your car is beautiful my friend, that must of been an experience of a lifetime. Thanks for showing us all your beautiful machine 👍

    • @antonsamuelsson1317
      @antonsamuelsson1317 2 года назад +4

      Bilen

    • @GS_GT_rides
      @GS_GT_rides 2 года назад +4

      cool lap, guys 👍😉

    • @mikaeltornberg
      @mikaeltornberg 2 года назад +3

      @@GS_GT_rides thx mate 🙏🏻😊

  • @wallstreetoneil
    @wallstreetoneil 2 года назад +93

    The setup trick with the 997gt3 to balance the grip was the following:
    1) turn the front struts to access the larger camber range, it lowers the starting caster amount, but then use Spacers in the arms to achieve the camber you desired - the advantage of this method is that it widens the front track without worrying about caster rubbing - this would also allow you to run a front space or slightly wider front rim
    2) don't run the 'recommended' Porsche 'Track' alignment but run slightly more camber in the front and less in the rear - I called this the 'reverse' Porsche recommendation - i.e. -2.7 front with -1.8 rear (also following point #1)
    3) At least for the 997, they under-specced the rear swaybar - when the GT2 came out it was a few mm wider - just swapping the bars and running it on the softest setting was enough (along with the above alignment specs)
    4) with the above setup, you would have a car that would rotate under slow-speed corners but with a full RS wing upgrade and max wing angle, it would be completely neutral in highspeed corners
    5) if you wanted even more rear grip so you could attack the corners, dropping the rear ride height slightly was a big win
    6) the final piece was upgrading the LSD to a track-orientated much higher lockup rate (Guard) unit so you could insanely trail-brake around corners and the rear-end would stay glued - for me this was truly magical - you could literally trail brake way around a corner and the back end was glued to the ground - it's where I had all the fun of gaining ground on cars like BMWs that simply could not do what a GT3 could do under braking.

    • @mgcharoudin
      @mgcharoudin  2 года назад +14

      Thank you for the valuable input!

    • @annoodannoo1032
      @annoodannoo1032 2 года назад +1

      Good info there. Do you happen know the difference in downforce between the regular GT3 rear wing and the RS wing?

    • @wallstreetoneil
      @wallstreetoneil 2 года назад +6

      @@annoodannoo1032 The point I was trying to make about the wing was that even when the much larger RS wing was placed in full steep attack mode, with that neutral setup I described, it didn't cause highspeed understeer as you might think it would - the car was neutral. Of all the changes I mentioned, the combo of reducing the rear camber to -1.8, from the factor recommended -2.5 'Track' setup, with the front only being at -2, was really 80% of the battle - the other being just a tiny bit of a stiffer rear bar. With the RS wing at full attack angle vs the Regular wing at neutral, I could absolutely feel the difference in very fast 3/4th gear off-camber corners where the stock wing might have the rear starting to want to come around (not fun). For my GT3 experience, once I got a pretty neutral setup, it was all about getting the car to have MORE rear grip under all conditions (drop ride height and better LSD) - this just allowed me to become far more brutal with the car trying to find the last 1/10s because I could trust the car - it simply would not ever snap - even with the most brutal application of throttle or trail braking.

    • @kcw9313
      @kcw9313 2 года назад

      The first trick is to make sure the OEM diff is actually doing its diff job. They’re sht from Porsche factory.

    • @williamoakes664
      @williamoakes664 2 года назад

      Great review 👍

  • @jayr124589
    @jayr124589 2 года назад +9

    That GT3RS pulled up and ghosted like Bunta did to takumi in Initial D. One thing I’ve learned from watching your videos having the right set up is extremely important. Really good driving on your part like usual.

  • @elmedinii.n
    @elmedinii.n 2 года назад +31

    What a great lap my man... great owner pretty much not talking just i know he was pretty amazed and liked how his car handled every corner... porche is great piece of art given to people from god 🙌

  • @robinpaulse4608
    @robinpaulse4608 2 года назад +27

    The normally aspirated screams above 8000rpm are sooo damn addictive!! Awesome car Mikael! Great driving Misha👌🏼

    • @mikaeltornberg
      @mikaeltornberg 2 года назад +2

      Thx, it’s an awesome piece of machinery 👌🏼😊

  • @stevelauder1976
    @stevelauder1976 2 года назад +6

    It never ceases to amaze me how quickly you settle into whatever car you're driving, considering how many different types of cars you drive on such a regular basis. That was like watching ballet - really enjoyed this one! Thank you

    • @BACK2PORT
      @BACK2PORT 2 года назад +1

      Good cars you can normally feel within minutes man. Not comparing myself to Misha btw but in general you can tell if you can push a or trust a car pretty quick

    • @stevelauder1976
      @stevelauder1976 2 года назад +1

      @@BACK2PORT I was thinking of the way he compensated knowing the level of grip from the tyres. Knowing when they're going to let go, without actually having them let go... I have no idea how you do that, except from hours and hours of expertise with different makes/compounds/pressures

    • @BACK2PORT
      @BACK2PORT 2 года назад +1

      @@stevelauder1976 Absolutely, I don't disagree you're correct. Just saying in general driving a fast or new car you can tell if it's possible to push or not within minutes. A good car literally talks to you

    • @stevelauder1976
      @stevelauder1976 2 года назад

      @@BACK2PORT Best car I ever owned was a stage 1 Golf R. 100mph felt like 60mph in other cars... It was effortlessly fast. But that was never on a track I knew extremely well. Sure, I'd know I'd be quick, but it would take a while to find the limits. We're on the same page bro! My point was more nuanced than my original post might have suggested 😁

  • @Wazup8012
    @Wazup8012 2 года назад +1

    This was a great video. The sounds of the engine screaming at 8 grand, the satisfying sound of the clicking of each gear, and then watching you try to catch the RS.
    You should get someone with good sound editing software to collect the sounds of the best sounding cars you’ve driven. Then make a compilation. I’d buy it. Pretty sure a lot would.

  • @Riaz17_
    @Riaz17_ 2 года назад +2

    Thnx Misha for this Awesome Lap..even 👍🏾 from the owner.Respect! I have never visit the Ring but watching you is feeling to be there!💪🏾

  • @G_Ozare
    @G_Ozare 2 года назад +3

    An RS Porsche is a dream car for me. I like how the owner has a slight smirk in his face, he’s proud of his machine.
    I wanted to add what a skill left foot braking is, I drive manual only but you have to really have your left foot DIALED as it can easily turn sketchy under braking. Superb skill from Misha.

    • @mikaeltornberg
      @mikaeltornberg 2 года назад +2

      I enjoyed both my car and Mishas driving. The car is amazing, it just keeps on giving and giving. 😊

    • @G_Ozare
      @G_Ozare 2 года назад +1

      @@mikaeltornberg Thank you for sharing it with us! Cheers

  • @peterrrr
    @peterrrr 2 года назад +2

    My god, if there's one sound I could listen non-stop to the day I die, it's the flat6 of the GT3 RS screaming

  • @m4dalex478
    @m4dalex478 2 года назад +1

    It's awesome to see a well setup car that can make a great lap for both Misha and the passenger/owner! My favorite kind of video

  • @hamzasherazi9334
    @hamzasherazi9334 2 года назад +12

    So much quicker in the dry. Love the look of that steering wheel.

  • @navaho5430
    @navaho5430 2 года назад +1

    I'm glad you put in the bit at the end, i wondered how someone passed you at that speed cheers.

  • @stka8903
    @stka8903 2 года назад +3

    WOW!! Fast , consistent and smooth , a frickin concert to our ears !! One of your best laps Misha , we can just imagine what it would be like if you had your own gt3 😈😈.

  • @Jokwoo
    @Jokwoo 2 года назад +2

    That was simply tremendous. I truly appreciate your driving; it’s like art. And top marks to the owner for making this video possible!

  • @lotusesprit38
    @lotusesprit38 2 года назад +1

    Another clean lap from Misha, well done. I would like to have a lap in Nurburgring one day. Cheers

  • @fieldofvision8195
    @fieldofvision8195 2 года назад +2

    I LOVE THE NEW STYLE OF SPLIT SCREEN WHEN DURING LAP

  • @JaimieSigamoney
    @JaimieSigamoney 2 года назад +16

    Great lap as always, it's really shocking that minor differences make the gt3rs much faster on the track. Nevertheless I love this GT3 💯

    • @mikaeltornberg
      @mikaeltornberg 2 года назад +3

      Semi slicks is probably the biggest and best upgrade you can do to improve performance. So by "just" adding semi slicks you gain a lot.

    • @JerainJezza
      @JerainJezza 2 года назад

      @@mikaeltornberg I put Potenza RE050A on my ex 997 GT3 because I ran out of tyres on a roadtrip. They were shit compared to my previous Cup 2's, horrible understeer indeed. Cup or Trofeo is what a GT3 needs.

  • @fastflyer666
    @fastflyer666 2 года назад +1

    991.1 3.8 sounds sooo sooo good, Interesting steering wheel change, I love the feel of the stock Sport design that comes in the 991.1 Gt3 stock.

  • @technopro-kz4xv
    @technopro-kz4xv 2 года назад +3

    Misha, you are such a great driver with that beautiful racing weapon! Amazing lap as you usually do… would be really interesting to see you driving that blue GT3RS at the end of your video. In my opinion you really deserve to own a GT3RS and I’m looking forward to see a video introducing to all of us your recently purchased GT3RS sooner or later 😊👍🏼Greetings from Spain. 🇪🇸

    • @mgcharoudin
      @mgcharoudin  2 года назад +1

      Better: ruclips.net/video/XL_88LYwDOA/видео.html

  • @kilanjertran428
    @kilanjertran428 2 года назад +2

    That was an amazing lap from start to end🔥🔥could never get tired of watching gt3’s at there best

  • @ericship8383
    @ericship8383 2 года назад +72

    The 992.2 is gonna be a force to be reckon with

    • @rahulsudhir666
      @rahulsudhir666 2 года назад +2

      Hell yeah! I can only imagine. Wonder whether they'd do a GT2 RS with the 992.

    • @LAP_Maxwell
      @LAP_Maxwell 2 года назад +3

      @@rahulsudhir666 They will, don't worry.

    • @mr.phantic6185
      @mr.phantic6185 2 года назад

      @@LAP_Maxwell Nope, not at this time.

    • @rahulsudhir666
      @rahulsudhir666 2 года назад +1

      @@LAP_Maxwell i sure hope so! The thing is I've been reading on forums such as Rennlist that most long time Porsche owners n collectors with connections within Porsche AG were told that there will be no GT2 RS for the 992 Generation and that the *GT2 RS Clubsport 25* was the swan song to the 2RS platform and that the *992 Sport Classic* was the closest thing that will be available. But interestingly enough there are also rumours that some dealerships in the US are taking booking advances from interested folks even though the 2RS usually comes at the very end of the production cycle which in this case would be 2026 2nd quarter. But if they do indeed build one, it would be one hell of a machine considerin how mental the 992 GT3 n GT3 RS are.

  • @Liam.......
    @Liam....... 2 года назад +12

    Didn't seem too bad considering the tyre situation. Great lap

  • @drivingnirvana5164
    @drivingnirvana5164 2 года назад +3

    You put a big Smile on Mike’s face 🥳 fantastic drive

  • @mdub048
    @mdub048 2 года назад +1

    You can just post videos of this car everyday for a while. I love this car. That GT3 wail never gets old. I could feel that lap from the driver's seat! 🤩😍🤩😍🤩

  • @Falconeer55
    @Falconeer55 2 года назад +1

    Fantastic drive, Misha! I'm always in awe how effortless you make rotating the car! Plus, Miata sighting! 😜

  • @quattr_o-11
    @quattr_o-11 2 года назад +4

    What a 💎 machine…as always my fav. great drive Misha.🤙🏼

  • @londonlore5881
    @londonlore5881 2 года назад +1

    Great video sir, and excellent camera setups give us the best views of all the important stuff. 👍🏽

  • @tunctoker856
    @tunctoker856 2 года назад +2

    Yes pedal cam!! in the past u posted many amazing vids of pros driving, every time i wished there was a pedal cam somewhere so that we could see the braking... this is amazing thank you

  • @luketregloan
    @luketregloan 2 года назад +1

    What an amazing car. And great drive. Thanks to the owner for letting you drive it around the ring and share it with us. Better tyres would be good. But still awesome. 👍

  • @adeadventuremtb3134
    @adeadventuremtb3134 2 года назад +2

    Great lap. Love the sound it produces. Love the gt3

  • @phillipharrison9886
    @phillipharrison9886 2 года назад +1

    The driver said it all on that lap. Top driver Misha!!!

  • @jonswanson7766
    @jonswanson7766 2 года назад +1

    Great ride and video, Misha 👍 cheers!

  • @darcyphillips70
    @darcyphillips70 2 года назад +2

    Dude… You drove it like you stole it, love it ❤️👊💥

  • @ΔημητρηςΤ-ζ7ω
    @ΔημητρηςΤ-ζ7ω 2 года назад +4

    If I drove the GT3 in the Ring, I certainly would not look at my mirrors! Congrats Misha.

  • @jonswanson7766
    @jonswanson7766 2 года назад +2

    That steering wheel makes it for me, I couldn't take my eyes 👀 off of it!

  • @wizardofsteez
    @wizardofsteez 2 года назад +1

    “Ruined “ seems like a strong word . Still a good lap

  • @stephencarey3589
    @stephencarey3589 2 года назад

    Fair play misha the way you just jump in a strange car and do that is just amazing 👏

  • @vwjetta4138
    @vwjetta4138 2 года назад +1

    As an owner of a 991.1 GT3, I do agree there is a bit of under steer which is different from a 997 or earlier. I think some of it comes from the size over previous models and some from the feel of the EPS, but either way I got mine for 130K, which is a steal if you ask me

  • @carl7298
    @carl7298 2 года назад +3

    U know the GT3 RS is fast when it leaves Misha standing. Great video m8 👍

    • @mikaeltornberg
      @mikaeltornberg 2 года назад +4

      If we have had the semi slicks as well, the difference would’ve been minimal… 👍🏼

    • @carl7298
      @carl7298 2 года назад +1

      @@mikaeltornberg I completely agree,I forgot about the tires lol 😂 beautiful car m8

    • @blueman5924
      @blueman5924 2 года назад +1

      The car may have passed, but it could not lose him completely, as Misha’s skill level is 🔥

  • @wearethetraffic
    @wearethetraffic 2 года назад +1

    That RS appeared and disappeared quickly. Sheesh, tires make a massive difference

  • @markwgundert4251
    @markwgundert4251 2 года назад +1

    The howl of the NA GT3 motor is so hypnotic

  • @rc51bigdaddy
    @rc51bigdaddy 2 года назад +1

    Great video and wonderful car!

  • @AlienLivesMatter
    @AlienLivesMatter 2 года назад

    5:00 big fish, big wake understanding the the depth of the "sea"... can't fake

  • @DRIVECLUBistimelessPS4
    @DRIVECLUBistimelessPS4 2 года назад +1

    5:00 - with all due respect 😎 😎😎

  • @gavstenhouse8857
    @gavstenhouse8857 2 года назад +1

    What an amazing lap and the sound of that engine singing up to 9k 😮

  • @stevetadman6272
    @stevetadman6272 2 года назад +1

    The engine noise!!! It gave me a similar feeling to when I watch "stuff" on websites that make me clear my history afterwards.....🤭

  • @paulos.878
    @paulos.878 2 года назад

    Your driving is trully amazing, and in cars you just got in

  • @mgcharoudin
    @mgcharoudin  2 года назад +5

    Check out our wet lap if you missed it, there the tyres performed great! ruclips.net/video/MigrQ98xev0/видео.html

  • @colemank7753
    @colemank7753 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the ride!

  • @kingdongo4388
    @kingdongo4388 2 года назад +1

    Can’t wait to see you drive the 992 gen 😄

  • @krispykruzer
    @krispykruzer 2 года назад +2

    6000 to 9000 rpm screams are just marvellous

  • @iceb-akap77ice93
    @iceb-akap77ice93 2 года назад +2

    Yeah man. Wow whot a lap. And whot a car. Very entertaining. 👍

  • @williamoakes664
    @williamoakes664 2 года назад +1

    Brilliant, had my heart going….

  • @literalghost929
    @literalghost929 2 года назад +1

    That was some sexy driving!

  • @jonswanson7766
    @jonswanson7766 2 года назад +4

    No doubt about it, the steering wheel adds twenty KPH!

  • @killfrog
    @killfrog 2 года назад +1

    holy understeer, i m early today! :D thx misha, for all the good vibes you ve put out :)

  • @gaulthierdeplancke5560
    @gaulthierdeplancke5560 Год назад

    loved the video misha! Next video will be called ''GT3 RS FAST, but 919 Hybrid FASTER" xD

  • @jackeebroecks
    @jackeebroecks 2 года назад

    hope someday you will do the green with an abarth...just to see something different again 😁 love your videos!! amaaaaaazing driver

  • @tougemonsta1
    @tougemonsta1 2 года назад +2

    Porsche is Ring 💯🔥

  • @Uathankicks
    @Uathankicks 2 года назад +1

    I agree with the owner 👍 nice drive Misha

  • @GOOFLEr
    @GOOFLEr 2 года назад

    Damn that guy SMOKED you!!! Still nice lap

  • @petterv123
    @petterv123 2 года назад +1

    💯🚗💨🚀

  • @peterbuckley5467
    @peterbuckley5467 2 года назад +2

    Still a good lap.

  • @berkayqkenzo.6795
    @berkayqkenzo.6795 2 года назад +2

    GT3 Sound awesome

  • @slash11lipo
    @slash11lipo 2 года назад +2

    Not a better street /track car than a Porsche.

  • @R19Robbin
    @R19Robbin 2 года назад +1

    This GT3 is just so nice

  • @carsstuffchannel8576
    @carsstuffchannel8576 2 года назад

    i can imagine many ppl watching this driving skill with envy. Me personally i'm jumping on my AssettoCorsa GT3s after this and working on my smoothness.......lol

  • @loran740
    @loran740 2 года назад +2

    Sounds so nice 🥵

  • @krabbe969
    @krabbe969 2 года назад

    Lmao i actually dreamed of a 992.2 GT2RS spyshot this night😂💀

  • @RallyeRacin9
    @RallyeRacin9 2 года назад

    Speed differences are just crazy.
    Would like to see what the GT3 heroes could achieve in a 911 of the 70ies and 80ies.

  • @MaxxyNL
    @MaxxyNL 2 года назад +2

    ❤ 🧡 💛 💚 💙 💜 Keep up the good work! ❤ 🧡 💛 💚 💙 💜

  • @ASRmann
    @ASRmann 2 года назад

    Lb for Lb the best ring tool out there !

  • @YachtReport
    @YachtReport 2 года назад

    Misha why did you choose not to wear the harness? With no airbag on steering wheel would it not have been a better choice?

    • @mgcharoudin
      @mgcharoudin  2 года назад +1

      This is a very good argument and I haven't thought about it.

    • @BalkanBoyBiH
      @BalkanBoyBiH 2 года назад

      @@mgcharoudin probably with these speeds you dead anyway so no room to think about other things then taking the corners correctly 😂

  • @lollypop9580
    @lollypop9580 2 года назад

    I Will Always prefer an airbag wheel but let this Alone, top car. 👍

  • @TamagoHead
    @TamagoHead 2 года назад +1

    Was the RS stock engine w/passenger? 🧐
    Sweet lap! Great car& owner!

    • @mgcharoudin
      @mgcharoudin  2 года назад +1

      Who knows

    • @TamagoHead
      @TamagoHead 2 года назад

      @@mgcharoudin yeah, who knows? That Miata was not stock also. On the RS, it pulled on the straights even with the aero, but you had a passenger.
      Beautiful lap & great video production!

  • @martynhatton8944
    @martynhatton8944 2 года назад +1

    Your 1 bad ASS driver bro .. full respect

  • @danielfortner7837
    @danielfortner7837 2 года назад +1

    Definition of driver mod

  • @kamidphish
    @kamidphish 2 года назад +1

    Bilen - The Car. Welp, it's not wrong. :-)

  • @MrFlavio83
    @MrFlavio83 2 года назад +1

    Ich nin absolut kein linksbremser ich kann es zwar einigermaßen aber die Tendenz geht immer zum rechts bremsen !!wie würdest du dein links bremsen mit dem fühlt zu rechtsbremsen vergleichen?

  • @dimitarm4668
    @dimitarm4668 2 года назад

    I am wondering why you are never using a full tachometer and short shifting a little bit?

  • @martinchapman2168
    @martinchapman2168 2 года назад +2

    Good video

  • @micheltebraake7915
    @micheltebraake7915 2 года назад +1

    Dit is laagvliegen!

  • @ianmoone6562
    @ianmoone6562 2 года назад +1

    Misha soon to be replacing the braces for a knife driving like this

  • @ThePieeetrek
    @ThePieeetrek 2 года назад

    No airbags, we Die like Real men!

  • @JACKSPEED_TV
    @JACKSPEED_TV 2 года назад +2

    🔥🔥 💚💯

  • @robg112
    @robg112 2 года назад +1

    Just consider yourself lucky you driving one.. even people with money won't be getting a GT3 RS anytime soon.. allocations all gone.. to bad it's a low build number.

  • @deancampbell724
    @deancampbell724 2 года назад +1

    Rapid 👌🏾

  • @scrappppy7155
    @scrappppy7155 2 года назад +2

    idk if this is assetto corsa or real life😳

  • @ThePerpetualStudent
    @ThePerpetualStudent Год назад

    Interesting that he is left foot breaking. Reminds me of karts.

  • @psycompany
    @psycompany 2 года назад +1

    maybe becuase of tires but looks like that You have been pushing this car much harder than others..

  • @jlo1169
    @jlo1169 2 года назад

    can you send me the link for the steering wheel kit you added? i have a 991.91 gt3 as well

    • @mikaeltornberg
      @mikaeltornberg 2 года назад

      Here you go mate: www.kmpdrivetrain.com/paddleshift/oem-steering-wheels/

    • @mgcharoudin
      @mgcharoudin  2 года назад

      www.kmpdrivetrain.com/product/porsche-991-gt3-racing-wheel/

  • @Sergey53
    @Sergey53 2 года назад +1

    🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @jarrodnunn
    @jarrodnunn 2 года назад

    @pierre DELAHAYE can we get a vett to the track?

  • @NegativoZ06
    @NegativoZ06 2 года назад

    Automatic cars are fast in these times but also boring, I don't count the excitement of reaching a curve in an automatic car, using the 3 pedals is more adrenaline

    • @mgcharoudin
      @mgcharoudin  2 года назад +1

      Does not matter much to me tbh. 996 is more engaging yes, but different type of adrenaline.

  • @mohai2643
    @mohai2643 Год назад

    Clean the windshield plz

  • @ThePerpetualStudent
    @ThePerpetualStudent Год назад

    Who is the manufacturer of the steering wheel?

  • @alexwalsh31
    @alexwalsh31 2 года назад

    What tyres are on thr car currently

  • @kenrossaukrsa
    @kenrossaukrsa 2 года назад

    Nah he had much more power and torque😮

  • @sniffty3498
    @sniffty3498 2 года назад

    Is It ever a 'green' track after rain ?

    • @mgcharoudin
      @mgcharoudin  2 года назад

      wha

    • @sniffty3498
      @sniffty3498 2 года назад

      @@mgcharoudin Does the rubber go away after rain and if the track has less grip after the rain