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  • Опубликовано: 11 янв 2023
  • Japan's government wants families to move out of the crowded capital, Tokyo, and therefore has significantly boosted a one-time grant to kick things along. It's now worth 1 million yen per child, that is about 7,500 US dollars. The incentive is part of an official push to breathe life into declining towns and villages. A whopping 30 percent of Japan's population now lives in greater Tokyo. Tens of thousands of people move there each year, hollowing out other parts of Japan which have aging populations. Can these efforts be a sustainable solution to some of Japan’s long-term demographic problems?
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  • @WilkinsonX
    @WilkinsonX Год назад +1088

    It’s crazy to me that the Japanese have to bribe citizens to leave Tokyo, even though Tokyo leads the world in Godzilla related homicides.

    • @pyroromancer
      @pyroromancer Год назад

      Don't give the government the idea to bioengineer giant monsters to attack Tokyo on a regular basis to get people to leave the city

    • @zainmudassir2964
      @zainmudassir2964 Год назад +22

      But it's a movie

    • @kazzsaru
      @kazzsaru Год назад +23

      Its all the anime, mate.

    • @steven4315
      @steven4315 Год назад +117

      @@zainmudassir2964 That's what they want you to believe.

    • @gamearena9519
      @gamearena9519 Год назад +35

      In a long time they tried to keep people inside the Maria and Rose walls

  • @homemedia50
    @homemedia50 Год назад +273

    Same is here in South Korea. It's very rare to see kids and young people in rural areas.

    • @JackIsNotInTheBox
      @JackIsNotInTheBox Год назад +60

      There is no K-Pop in rural areas.

    • @Pfyzer
      @Pfyzer Год назад +23

      You see that any where where city has more opportunities for making money and financial security

    • @boymande
      @boymande Год назад +6

      Working 9-5 gives ppl financial sevurity?????? Cause most ppl in the city do that living on land that they don't own

    • @prophetsspaceengineering2913
      @prophetsspaceengineering2913 Год назад +2

      @@boymande I doubled my income by taking a job in Berlin over my previous one in a rural area just outside the city. Working conditions are also far better. Granted, there were a few good job opportunities out in the wild as well but they were so sought after that you had to have some solid connections - which I did not.
      My wife and I did pay twice as much for rent but still had far more left at the end of the month. Eventually, we saved up enough for an apartment which was yet a bit more expensive (also had a bit of luck and some savings from my time in the army). Anyway, cities absolutely offer opportunities. Rural areas can still be great if you've got a decent job there but not if you're getting minimum wage and have to do unpaid overtime.

    • @seanthe100
      @seanthe100 Год назад +1

      ​@@prophetsspaceengineering2913overtime is unpaid in Germany?

  • @anonnymous7009
    @anonnymous7009 Год назад +43

    The problem is companies. Instead of luring people to the countryside they should lure companies to the countryside. If jobs exists, enough money will exist to create or revive schools and hospitals.

    • @Viktor-bb
      @Viktor-bb 6 месяцев назад

      Как всё запутано😂

    • @Realsesar
      @Realsesar 26 дней назад +1

      It’s not that easy. If I’m a business owner and the government wants me to move or expand outside the city I’ll be thinking about what it’s going to cost for me to do it. Is the transportation infrastructure good enough to support it? Who knows

  • @Folksgarm
    @Folksgarm Год назад +413

    I am living in Japan right now and the problem of depopulation you can see everywhere outside of the big cities, especially deep in the mauntains or the islands.
    There are several programs to get young people to move to the countryside and quite a few ARE motivated. As mentioned in the video, the contryside is missing most things young people or families need: Schools, hospitals, shops, infrastructure and convenience (I hear that a lot) e.t.c. Also the education in Japan has a very strict hierarchical top-down, organisation, where the top schools and universities lie in Tokyo, Kyoto, Osaka etc. Everyone wants to go there, since it directly effects your job opportunities later on in life. Provincial Schools or Universities have bad funding (money is distributed by a ranking system whre Tokyo Univ. is #1) and also bad reputation. Parents usually want a good education for their children. Above all, many people who participate in the various state programs, e.g. getting a 1 year training to be a farmer, getting paid an average wage during that time, sometimes housing included, and than a financial backing to set up your own business, fail due to the lack of recognition from the old countryside population. In Japan you have to listen to the elders, you cannot go against them or question their decisions. Nothing will be done if the older people and the ones in high position, like mayors, do not agree with it - and you rely on them at least somewhat if you want run a small business. In short: the people who move to the countryside do usually not have the support of the local population, who will look down on them because of their status and/or age. How does this improve the personal situation for younger people in contrast to what they already have in the cities?
    This in combination with the aforementioned makes the countryside very unattractive for most. I doubt that 1 mio. Yen/ 7500USD is a convincing argument to counter the problems... a one-time payment for a long-term inconvenient situation. That is the experience I have personally heard from people who moved or have friends who moved. Despite all of it, I personally still prefer the countryside in Japan by a lot - as long as I can earn some money there! The most beautiful place to be.

    • @Momo-qo7is
      @Momo-qo7is Год назад +6

      I doubt that too regarding the practical the policy would be. But it could be for some young families that the fathers can work from home while the first children are toddlers (pre-school). Another could be that they are back to live in their hometowns where their parents can help raising the young kids. This example is not very easy because Japan prefers smaller families not like China where they value big families.

    • @indonesianchinese5724
      @indonesianchinese5724 Год назад +1

      English teacher?

    • @Folksgarm
      @Folksgarm Год назад +6

      ​@@Momo-qo7is Yes for some families it might be ok, if remote work is possible and the children are only up to elementary school age. I also know one young couple who moved together with the family this year for exactly the reason you mentiond. Quite traditional, but also rare, I guess.
      @indonesianchinese5724 I do not work as a teacher, if thats what you mean.
      Btw. during the extremly humid and hot summers you certainly want modern housing and likely you won't want to live in a village where half of the buildings are falling apart since they are already unihabited for some time and noone takes care of them anymore. It is very sad to see sometimes and something needs to be done in this regard, too.

    • @hossp2365
      @hossp2365 Год назад +12

      @@Folksgarm and the sad part is, that anyone moving with children to these depopulating regions will be in exactly the same spot as older parents living there - children leave and go to the city.

    • @Audreythescrub
      @Audreythescrub Год назад +2

      Unfortunately my career is in scientific research, so I basically have to be nearby a university (unless it’s field research but I have a very hard time imagining myself being able to get a Japanese field research position)

  • @09csr
    @09csr Год назад +132

    Japan seem to be facing a similar issue as we in Sweden: our govts have completely neglected rural areas.
    There are no schools, no upper education, few shops and often even no buses or trains, often very far to the closest hospitals or even smaller clinics, and then they wonder why people won't move out of the cities. There are quite a few places what is slowly turning into ghost towns, and some were only elderly lives, because it makes no sense for young couples with work and kids to go there.
    Yeah, the houses tend to be cheap, but cost of living is high and it's just impractical in general.

    • @werren894
      @werren894 Год назад +2

      AbdulPls sweden lul

    • @alexandervoronin5323
      @alexandervoronin5323 Год назад +4

      But can someone explain to me, who is going to pay for these facilities? Take a village/town under 1000 population, it would be a huge expense to maintain hospitals, schools, public offices there, i can also complain that government is not providing pipes with fresh juices straight to my mouth, but we should be a bit realistic with our expectations. For thousand of years, people lived in these villages without government providing mini paradise for them. Look at the African villages, most people there even don't know what a school or hospital look like and have huge families.

    • @GATE12JPN
      @GATE12JPN Год назад +3

      In many ways, as a nation matures, it faces a dilemma in which the benefits of being single outweigh having a family....

    • @truthalonetriumphs6572
      @truthalonetriumphs6572 Год назад +3

      In every problem, there's an opportunity. I think at least towns on/ close to high speed rail can be revived by entrepreneurs.

    • @09csr
      @09csr Год назад +4

      @@alexandervoronin5323 alright, I'll try to keep ot simple. It is the state what suggests people to move out to these areas, yet they offer no incentive. That is the point of my comment. You cannot say "move out to X", and expect people to do that when X isn't feasible for some people, let alone attractive to most.
      And to begin with, many of these places would not have declined in population had the state not withdrawn stuff like buses, which kids need to go to the nearest school and many adults would need to go to work or shop.

  • @c.i.j.5457
    @c.i.j.5457 Год назад +172

    As somebody who lives in Tokyo with his wife, I would love to move outside of Tokyo but the challenges are:
    Worse health care
    Worse education
    Less opportunities
    Worse support systems
    Lower salaries
    Less places to engage your children in
    Tokyo is simply extremely convenient and life outside of Tokyo is extremely inconvenient.

    • @lawrencekling8598
      @lawrencekling8598 Год назад +9

      What about Kyoto and Saitama? Are they also not good choice?

    • @kimjongun6362
      @kimjongun6362 Год назад +11

      Osaka

    • @li_tsz_fung
      @li_tsz_fung Год назад +16

      @@lawrencekling8598 Kyoto is also on the edge of bankruptcy. It's not very possible that it actually happens. Because they still have many ways to cut budget and capture more money from tourists. But cutting local government spending definitely will affect residents' life quality

    • @lawrencekling8598
      @lawrencekling8598 Год назад

      @@li_tsz_fung That's sad really

    • @drunkensailor112
      @drunkensailor112 Год назад

      @@kimjongun6362 Sapporo

  • @RickPossible101
    @RickPossible101 Год назад +26

    People, particularly young people, go wherever the jobs go, I don't know how many folks would be willing to move to a small town with few jobs for less than $10,000 USD

    • @cinnamonstar808
      @cinnamonstar808 Год назад +1

      its not convenient = small towns dont even have escalators or elevators. MALLS or late hour restaurants.

  • @BenShutUp
    @BenShutUp Год назад +138

    Good luck Japan 🇯🇵 However these incentives aren’t nearly enough and are probably too late too. There are massive systemic and cultural issues that have worked against large families, new immigrants, have done much to discourage childbearing. But I’m still rooting for y’all to improve and grow soon enough.

    • @ph1438
      @ph1438 Год назад +20

      I am in Aomori and have been in Japan since 2009, not really rooting for Japan, the nasty looks and the xenophobic attitudes (elderly) have ruined Japan. The pandemic has really brought these true colors to the front and for everyone to view.

    • @hadeelsalehh
      @hadeelsalehh 7 месяцев назад

      What systematic and cultural issues?

    • @no_name_no_name954
      @no_name_no_name954 4 месяца назад

      @@hadeelsalehh inability to accept novelty, whether new tools, technologies, approaches or even people

  • @BavarianHobbit
    @BavarianHobbit Год назад +16

    In Bavaria(Germany) we do not really face this problem. Towns and villages are often actually growing or at least the population is stable.
    The Bavarian government made smaller towns of 5k+ inhabitants more important by placing important government institutions there.
    Additionally our industry isn't concentrated in the big cities or at least not as much as in other countries. It is not rare for a small town to have several companies and factories that are producing something that is exported globally.
    Sure we also have population decline and an aging population but our rural areas still manage to prevail.

    • @Viktor-bb
      @Viktor-bb 6 месяцев назад +1

      Да, ладно врать, в селе мало живут немцев 😂

    • @rhythmandacoustics
      @rhythmandacoustics 4 месяца назад +1

      I see that Germany is one of the few places were the population is not very concentrated in one are.

    • @nebyeelda5862
      @nebyeelda5862 4 месяца назад

      That's true but that's not because of the government. Germany have multiple internal navigable rivers that are connected to the sea. That is why German engineering is the best and why multiple seat of power end up creating a decentralized religion called protestantism. The only other country that have a geography close to Germany is the US. And so US and Germany engineering will always be top notch in the world.

  • @truthalonetriumphs6572
    @truthalonetriumphs6572 Год назад +30

    They can create retirement communities in rural areas. Offer retirees equivalent exchange for their Tokyo property plus cash. The Tokyo property can be sold to younger people. The retirement communities will need healthcare workers and doctors supporting a small community of younger people.

  • @user-gv8hs6dy8u
    @user-gv8hs6dy8u Год назад +7

    That problem is worldwide except the countries with highest birth rates.

  • @sonny9054
    @sonny9054 Год назад +78

    Mark san, the interviewee is absolutely right. Although he doesn’t shout out loud, the linguistic element is pretty crucial. You don’t have to be perfect, but you’ll need to be able to conduct day to day conversations. Outside of Tokyo or other major cities, not many people speak foreign tongue.

    • @noahway13
      @noahway13 Год назад +6

      I started learning Chinese 2 years ago. Big mistake-- I SO wish i'd picked Japanese. The Japanese seem so much more, ummm, cultured? Is that the right word? Just look at quality... anything, like buildings, food, manufacturing, etc. Japan has an industry of bespoke items: shoes, watches, suits, toys, etc. China is famous for its junk. These two cultures are night and day.

    • @Western_Decline
      @Western_Decline Год назад

      @@noahway13 no, that’s just you being a racist ape 🦍

    • @noahway13
      @noahway13 Год назад +1

      @@Western_Decline The Chinese and Japanese are different races? (I'll help you out-- They are not)

    • @Bradgilliswhammyman
      @Bradgilliswhammyman Год назад

      japanese has a lot of wierd idiomatic variations in its language. Osaka ben and tokyo ben are different enough for a native...I can't imagine a foreigner learning the difference, some can though. It is a tough language to learn as the sounds are very foreign to westerners, it is spoken fast af, and you can easily miss what someone said by missing a particle. Trying to get across complex ideas is tough because of their strange conjunctions. I lived in Japan for about a year or so and was not able to pick the language up fast enough to stay.

    • @user-wh6rp7sh1v
      @user-wh6rp7sh1v Год назад

      @@Bradgilliswhammyman bcs ur not even Japanese

  • @lucasbecker1823
    @lucasbecker1823 Год назад +34

    When they say “Greater Tokyo”, they’re not referring to just the 1 city of Tokyo. They’re talking about 8 different prefectures. Tokyo the prefecture is only 14 million (including the tiny remote islands in Tokyo prefecture) and 9 million within the actual city itself.
    So yes, that’s still a ton of people, but that means in the giant area that is the Tokyo metropolitan area there are still many many small towns like the one I lived in that are also feeling the side effects of everyone moving to Tokyo (the prefecture) or JouKyo-ing

    • @darknessbroadcast4139
      @darknessbroadcast4139 Год назад +2

      これ。英語のコメントで時々"東京は4000万人住んでいる" 他の国の人々がどこからこの情報を得ているのか私には分かりません。笑

    • @Jay92master
      @Jay92master Год назад

      Your country must redo labor births for Japanese population. Don’t have Japan country disappear without you warning and tell others about this I’ll be bad.

    • @Jay92master
      @Jay92master Год назад

      Japanese population must be 20.9 billions of people

    • @socks_cat356
      @socks_cat356 Год назад

      ha ha,
      The population of the "Tokyo metropolitan area", such as the economic zone, is 37 million, while the population of "Tokyo" is 14 million.
      The population of the definition of "metropolitan area" is 43.2 million people in eight prefectures.

  • @MiranUT
    @MiranUT Год назад +26

    The government needs to incentivize big companies and univeristies to move out of the city, otherwise few will move--and doing so will also minimize damage to the economy when the next big quake hits Tokyo. I poll my university students every year about living out in the countryside (with bigger subsidies than mentioned in the news clip) and maybe one in 50 are willing to leave Tokyo-metro.

  • @zyanide
    @zyanide Год назад +38

    I used to live in Bangkok. Not as crazy as Tokyo but busy enough. During COVID, our family moved to out of town because we can work online.
    We never turned back. I understand the fear or concerns before moving. But once you got out, you got out.
    Now, if we go to Bangkok, we cannot understand anymore how we survived that city before.

    • @amirahmadkhan1686
      @amirahmadkhan1686 Год назад

      How I can get visa easily in any Europe countries i am civil engineer

    • @waynesmith7746
      @waynesmith7746 Год назад +3

      @@amirahmadkhan1686 depends entirely on country you want and what country you’re from.
      If you’re not a westerner like Canadian or American or Australian you’ll have a hard time.
      Next you’ll need to know at least one of the languages in mainland Europe. German is probably the best bet.
      You’ll likely need a work sponsor there. If you don’t have a job in europe good luck getting extended visa.
      Edit: I suggest finding an international company in your country and work for them and see if you can get transferred to one of the companys branches in europe

    • @amirahmadkhan1686
      @amirahmadkhan1686 Год назад

      @@waynesmith7746 dear please WhatsApp number give me I really want to travel anyway I am from Pakistan

    • @mkkrupp2462
      @mkkrupp2462 Год назад

      @@amirahmadkhan1686 Reddit has a forum for this type of question. R/ I want out of here …..R/ moving overseas …..forgotten exactly the title but something like that

    • @amirahmadkhan1686
      @amirahmadkhan1686 Год назад

      @@mkkrupp2462 where you from

  • @doriginalkillua99
    @doriginalkillua99 Год назад +7

    Ask a Japanese person why their population is declining and you'll get a unique answer each time. They'll either say it's because of the high tuition fees, the lack of childcare services, the end of arranged marriages with people becoming more choosy, the grueling work culture and lack of work/life balance, and now this expert says it's because women are getting more educated. So fascinating.
    Policies like this makes me think that Japan nowadays is just stumbling through life. It's like all their good ideas were used up during their economic miracle. Or maybe, just maybe, it's because their politicians are fossilized dinosaurs and can't think of any better and new ideas.
    Knowing that Japan has one of the largest debt to GDP ratio (second to Venezuela), adding an another deficit to subsidize people to repopulate rural areas instead of long term and effective planning really makes you wonder.

    • @carolean4360
      @carolean4360 7 месяцев назад

      The majority of that debt is held by the japanese central bank and only 10% by foreign investors. To add to that they are also a net creditor with trillions of dollars in net assets. They can easily cut that debt in half with a single penstroke by writing off the bonds held by the central bank and easily repay the rest of the bond holders with their immense overseas assets.

  • @vegqueen747
    @vegqueen747 Год назад +1

    It is a great initiative

  • @crystallira1528
    @crystallira1528 Год назад +7

    That's a wonderful, one step further is to put higher education learning facilities in some of these small towns making University travel travel there live their work there and shop. Additional to that when their families come it will also help. We do that in parts of the United but people don't realize it 👍👍

  • @andrewjones-productions
    @andrewjones-productions Год назад +12

    A one term payment of 1 million JPY is not really as much of an incentive as it sounds. Depending on where you may move to, the removal costs alone may eat up to half of that and unlike Tokyo, a vehicle will be necessary. Starting from scratch is not really a viable option for most people. The government needs to address the root of the problem and that is the concentration of companies in Tokyo. Furthermore, from a national security perspective, the Diet (Parliament), government ministries (Kasumigaseki), Prime Minister Office/Residence, Bank of Japan, Stock Exchange and Supreme Court are all situated along a roughly 3km line. That means that a major earthquake hitting Tokyo will potentially affect all of the major organs of state in one full sweep. Japan needs to move more ministries out of Tokyo and scatter them all over Japan (some very limited movement in this direction has happened) and the companies of various industries will follow as they will want to lobby the ministries and retain an efficient working relationship with them. That will take jobs into the regions and skilled professionals will have options. This has been debated ad nauseam here in Japan, but little has changed.

  • @SamiLo2
    @SamiLo2 Год назад +21

    I lived in Japan for 2 years. I would love to move back and live in the country.

  • @RC94332
    @RC94332 Год назад +6

    There is a lot of people who would like to move to Japan, but it’s very difficult to learn Japanese and they are very wary of bringing in immigration….

  • @JM-nm3bg
    @JM-nm3bg Год назад +12

    Incentive schemes may work somewhat but it’s hard to counteract the effects of centralization brought on by globalization that feeds off of economies of scale. Things are changing and about to change even faster towards a bipolar or multipolar world but this probably won’t solve the demographic (=quality of life) problem much. The reason being that competitive drive will just get redirected towards defence and hopefully space exploration so technological advancement will remain important and big cities will continue to draw people. A couple of answers may be 1) to ease the pressure on people in the cities by somehow promoting one worker+one homemaker+children households 2) to leverage technology to ease the lure of big cities such as drone delivery, free internet, telecommuting etc. in more remote areas. I don’t think we need to subsidize small scale farming, people will do that all by themselves if they are given the chance.

  • @surajitmondal823
    @surajitmondal823 Год назад +11

    They can just turn them into retirement towns with few educational institutions, so that the town would have both older and younger people. Although this would result a less productive town since there would not be many working age population.
    Or they can just develop rural areas into new urban centres spanning all over the country, to distribute the population

    • @Klentung8989
      @Klentung8989 Год назад

      Japan should take in Indians as new immigrants

    • @ronaldocatarinense12
      @ronaldocatarinense12 Год назад +1

      @@Klentung8989 you are crazy?

    • @leonardoschiavelli6478
      @leonardoschiavelli6478 Год назад

      Rather the Dekasegi from Brazil and Peru.

    • @Batman-xx4vv
      @Batman-xx4vv 17 дней назад

      @@ronaldocatarinense12 i chocked on my water when i read that dude's statement

  • @vladrazym9955
    @vladrazym9955 Год назад +1

    Was that interview recorded on a doorbell camera? Doesnt he have a phone at least?

  • @JGnuff
    @JGnuff Год назад +27

    Some things people aren't mentioning with regards to such a population density mostly being the younger brackets being in these major cities, from a strategic standpoint, anything that could destroy that city and wipe out the population (whether natural or man-made), would also cripple the chances of an entire nationality of people to continue enduring through time.

    • @effexon
      @effexon Год назад +2

      I've thought about this but not from that angle.... mostly from housing price viewpoint and thus young dont form families. Japan has big population so it aint first problem they would face.

    • @hadhamalnam
      @hadhamalnam 8 месяцев назад

      Are you talking about nukes? Because other than that there is nothing can do something like that on that scale.

    • @Viktor-bb
      @Viktor-bb 6 месяцев назад

      Ну правильно в Токио лучше жить😂

  • @aurorapaisley7453
    @aurorapaisley7453 Год назад +21

    How about having a less toxic work culture and a balanced work to life living conditions

  • @sgardi2
    @sgardi2 Год назад +4

    Italy has a similar issue

  • @Jahoomis
    @Jahoomis Год назад +21

    I think if Japan can slightly reduce working hours, allow for more holidays and more free time, and bring the level of child compensation to the equivalent of $10,000, then they will see actual progress.

    • @robl0xgamer258
      @robl0xgamer258 9 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly

    • @SlavaBagmut
      @SlavaBagmut 8 месяцев назад +1

      Basically Japan should become a little more like Europe

    • @Jahoomis
      @Jahoomis 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@SlavaBagmut no bc europe is lazy and has a low fertility rate as well. Japan should become a little more like Japan in the 1990s

    • @revolutionarydragon1123
      @revolutionarydragon1123 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Jahoomisya 1990s when Japan's death spiral began

  • @paulskiye6930
    @paulskiye6930 Год назад +3

    Japan, a country held back by its elder population at cost of the younger. Their senpai culture is a bit out of control.

  • @mr.miyagi3579
    @mr.miyagi3579 Год назад +3

    All comment's by the distinguished experts are all so valid.
    However, IMO, The major factor contributing to the lack of larger Japan families is the 50% estate taxes on the estate of the head of household, and the high cost of the transfer of real estate titles and business ownership to one's off springs upon death. Both these after death taxes act as huge disincentives to leave any estate or business to ones children.
    Humans are the top of the animal food chain, and are not going to sweat and toil to build a homestead in the country of self sustaining income from a business and/or real estate values if they cannot leave it to their children without paying the children having to pay a 50% estate tax!!!.

  • @cricketclassics5490
    @cricketclassics5490 Год назад +3

    Why don't they give work from home.. Most of this problem will be solved.

  • @meggtokyodelicious
    @meggtokyodelicious Год назад +26

    It's a very catchy 100man yen majority here in Tokyo aren't taking in consideration. Recently, Tokyo mayor Koike announced that families with kids in Tokyo will receive 5000 yen a month as a support money. And it's indefinitely,so a lot of people prefer to stick around Tokyo....... Also, foreigners with light skin will be respected at countrysides but anybody else won't be welcomed, there's still a lot of discrimination in Japan if a person is of dark skin or Chinese.

    • @nerd2544
      @nerd2544 Год назад +1

      i've heard the opposite from people who are living in japan, they say that tokyo is less welcoming than the south (kansai) when it comes to outsiders/foreigners. idk

    • @uA-gy8wk
      @uA-gy8wk Год назад +6

      日本の田舎なら、白人だろうが余所者は警戒されてるから。

    • @FenrirRobu
      @FenrirRobu Год назад +5

      @@nerd2544 Kansai isn't "countryside" and Kansai isn't "south". Osaka is also densely populated.

    • @meggtokyodelicious
      @meggtokyodelicious Год назад +3

      @@nerd2544関西 Kansai is a reference for legion usually referred to Osaka, Nara, Kyoto prefectures. By the way those cities are density populated, and aren't considered countryside.

  • @ohnyo4821
    @ohnyo4821 Год назад +9

    As Japanese, I can say the main problem is job opportunities. It's simple, there are no decent jobs outside of big city like Tokyo and Osaka, so only a limited number of people want to live in countryside.
    I was actually looking for a job in a rural area, but I couldn't find a "common" job, so I gave up.

    • @ph1438
      @ph1438 Год назад +4

      Attitudes towards foreigners doesn't help

  • @ArnoSnyman007
    @ArnoSnyman007 Год назад +6

    Best way to deal with this is not to bride people, but to make transport to the city affordable, less time consuming and accessable from rural areas. Then people will be more than happy to move to areas which has cheaper housing. The expenses (time and money) people has to go though to get to the city from more rural areas is probably the major reason why people opt to stay in the city.

    • @khanhnguyen-tt3ff
      @khanhnguyen-tt3ff Год назад +4

      There nothing Japan can do for Transportation, they already have the best transportation network in the world

    • @ellyphant6310
      @ellyphant6310 Год назад +5

      @@khanhnguyen-tt3ff Yessir, half japanese here. Never had an issue with JR, trains come frequently, are very affordable and on time. Best train network on the planet

    • @ArnoSnyman007
      @ArnoSnyman007 Год назад +1

      @@ellyphant6310 then what is the excuse then not to stay outside of Tokyo then? This is out of pure curiousity.

    • @Klentung8989
      @Klentung8989 Год назад +1

      Japan should take in Indians as new immigrants

    • @greywolf7422
      @greywolf7422 Год назад +1

      @@Klentung8989 You're a bot, aren't you? you've posted this comment on multiple reply threads.

  • @leookada2402
    @leookada2402 Год назад +6

    Paying people to move out is just putting a bandage on the issue.

  • @aravind4946
    @aravind4946 Год назад +3

    One important reason couples tend to have less kids or even no kids is the cost of real estate, mega cities have huge real estate cost and couples have to spend a lifetime paying their housing loans. Hence, they restrict themselves from raising a large family to avoid financial hardship. If they are incentivised to move to country side where buying a house is cheap, they might consider raising a larger family.

  • @jameslascelle9453
    @jameslascelle9453 Год назад +22

    Though you don’t get paid to relocate, rural Canada also has many of the same subsidies and programs for people with children or whom are starting businesses. It’s gonna be very interesting to see how countries with declining birth rates deal with relocating people from magnet cities to repopulate the country side.

  • @Ttdogi
    @Ttdogi Год назад +6

    "I'm gonna pay you 100 dollars to f off." - Ricky

  • @milk_chemistry
    @milk_chemistry Год назад +17

    What they could do is start giving payments to startup businesses in Kyoto and other smaller city's so that people go move from Tokyo to places like Kyoto to make businesses
    Kyoto is fairly cheap to live in but there isn't much businesses people really just live in Kyoto and take a 40 minute train to osaka for work
    Promoting business start ups with payments for non Kyoto residents will lower the population of osaka and Tokyo and raise the population of Kyoto and other cities
    Btw there is 33 city's in Japan and people mainly live/work in 2

  • @BayuAH
    @BayuAH Год назад +12

    As someone who literary living in countryside, what I concern is how fast and stable Internet access in the area. About food, water, and anything basic essential things aren't really concern, because you already sitting near breadbasket of the nation.
    Fortunately even thought we are living in countryside, our town relatively densely populated that justify high speed fiber optic Internet network, which is nice.

    • @boymande
      @boymande Год назад

      So "living off the land" or off the grid" isn't a thing in japan

    • @tylerphuoc2653
      @tylerphuoc2653 Год назад

      @@boymande I mean, you can live in a wildlife preserve somewhere and try to live under the authorities' nose if you want

    • @XZ1.
      @XZ1. 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@boymande maybe in a mountain somewhere. There's not big open country like in the US

  • @ASURAN24
    @ASURAN24 Год назад

    Good ideas

  • @Obsidian-Nebula
    @Obsidian-Nebula Год назад +61

    The goal of this policy is not to "kick people out" of Tokyo. The goal is to have more people live in small/ medium towns (not really rural areas).
    There's already a lot of people who have been planning to move out for years but They don't have the means. This policy is like a ticket that They've been missing. They can get the rest on Their own just like They have, for example, when They came to Tokyo years ago

    • @cinnamonstar808
      @cinnamonstar808 Год назад +5

      TOKYO is convenient: and many people like that perks of living in cities. you can get service or food late or 24 hours.
      small town shops close 5pm.

    • @Obsidian-Nebula
      @Obsidian-Nebula Год назад +4

      ​@@cinnamonstar808 It's ok that You like it. But there are people who don't. Some don't like the stress or They like slower pace and don't care about late night shopping.
      They also might have certain skillset which allows Them to apply for some job outside of the cities where those services are not required or not possible. They might lack means to move and this program is the "ticked" They might use. It's an offer not an obligation

    • @eantropix
      @eantropix Год назад +2

      If you've been planning to move out for years, a million yen payment isn't gonna change your mind. That should at most cover travel and moving costs. Raising children is very costly, and job opportunities in the rural area most likely don't pay as much as jobs in the capital.

    • @Aki-hb1jy
      @Aki-hb1jy Год назад +3

      @@eantropix Japan has a childcare benefit system. They pay a good amount monthly if you have a child.

    • @XZ1.
      @XZ1. 5 месяцев назад

      If the government has that much money to give, shouldn't it lower taxes instead so that cost of living goes down and people can afford things?

  • @41ankitt
    @41ankitt Год назад +3

    The trend in all the countries is moving from rural to urban areas ! .... So rather than paying them to relocate it would be great if they can develop more urban centres ....

  • @blu12gaming44
    @blu12gaming44 8 месяцев назад +1

    I'm pretty sure a one-time payment of $7,500 isn't nearly enough to offset the lack of opportunity that comes with moving out of the capital city of Tokyo. Unless you can maintain around the same paycheck by working remotely: that's a huge shift when moving to a rural setting.
    TBH it's just the geriatric government's tone-deafness toward the plight of younger generations who need to live their lives but those in power are far too comfortable squeezing every last drop out of them to actually care to help them in any way. A small handful of corporations runs Japan, and they're far too concerned for the numbers on a balance sheet to care about the future of a country that they just see as the host they can always feed upon.

  • @armanakcadurniga
    @armanakcadurniga Год назад +3

    the way I see it this program really wouldn't work, Tokyo itself is the heart of Japan where all opportunity comes from. This is also the place where all the things that you need are available. Unless the Government can provide the same opportunity and convenience this people have they won't take it. The only people I can see going out of Tokyo is those who is already well established and have a lot of money that they won't have to worry anything.

  • @miyoshifw27
    @miyoshifw27 Год назад +8

    Well because Tokyo has a lot of interesting places that you can visit by public transportation unlike other prefectures. Too bad the living cost - apartment is way more expensive compare to other prefectures. I tried to live there, but the salary is not enough to cover the rent. And I love cars that's one thing that most people don't need in Tokyo because of parking cost.

  • @calvinng5598
    @calvinng5598 Год назад +9

    Government incentives are a good starting point. However, to make this work, it have to start with the corporations. The CEO's need to realized work life balance. They should mandate every employees to shut off their laptop or shut off the light at certain time. Why not let who people can work from home? I am sure they are as productive as being in the office. Some of the people there travel hours each way everyday to work. Or at least let them work from home 3 days per week. If these CEO's don't, then Japanese population will continue to decline.

  • @esteemedyams
    @esteemedyams Год назад +7

    I can already see scores of weaboos, shuffling about in small towns, going into shops like "Konn-nee-chee-waA, can I take over your business? "

  • @andikardian9014
    @andikardian9014 9 месяцев назад

    Jakarta also has the same population problem (plus pollution and sinking problem).
    and the government decided to move the capital 1000 km away from Jakarta and hoping decrease Jakarta's burden.
    but I don't think there are many jakartan who want to move to new capital. it might be only government employees and their buildings will completely moving.

  • @salimbentouhami727
    @salimbentouhami727 Год назад +3

    the government can't just higher the salary the country has a massive debt that would be catastrophic for the government

  • @gspkmr
    @gspkmr Год назад +5

    I would happily move to Rural Japan with family from India. If japan allows.

  • @hadhamalnam
    @hadhamalnam 8 месяцев назад +2

    Its interesting that people talk so much about Japans birth rate when countries like Finland, Spain, and Italy have similar or even lower birth rates.

  • @chrismurray3140
    @chrismurray3140 Год назад +1

    Next thing you know, there will be a whole generation suffering from PTSD due to the isolation of small mountain villages. The problems are so much bigger than just shuffling around the existing population. The real issue...people don't want children anymore...why? .....because keeping a roof over YOUR own head and feeding YOURSELF has become next to impossible. How can you consider adding children to the expense?

  • @BayuAH
    @BayuAH Год назад +2

    So, this is like Transmigration Program of Indonesia. The difference it seem that Transmigration Program is government program to spread of over-population of Java island and this because of lack population of the destination area.
    Transmigration Program have many problem such as clashing with local and even literary brawl, therefore it was stopped for certain destination area a few years ago.

  • @rollingdownfalling
    @rollingdownfalling Год назад +17

    It's interesting to see how people from the US do it. There is like literally an exudes from California to states like Texas, Arizona and Washington State. And a lot of Tech companies moved there as well. It's possible that in the future Texas may even turn into a swing state.

    • @Pfyzer
      @Pfyzer Год назад +10

      All states should be swing states lmao

    • @tomhenry897
      @tomhenry897 Год назад

      Texas already 49% Democrats
      Next election be 51%
      All from people moving in and out numbering the natives

    • @animefreak4161
      @animefreak4161 Год назад +1

      that's not the same. people are moving from one major city to another. it would be more comparable to say that people are moving away from cities to suburbs and other rural areas outside of the city to enjoy a more peaceful and less expensive life.

    • @seanthe100
      @seanthe100 Год назад +6

      One of the US major advantages is it's population is more spread out and is increasingly spreading out more, that makes the economy much more resilient. The housing markets in Kyoto and Tokyo in the 90s literally crashed the entire economy of Japan a country shouldn't be over reliant on a couple of areas, unless it's a small country.

    • @RC94332
      @RC94332 Год назад

      People aren’t moving from California to the middle of nowhere in those states. They are almost all moving to the major cities of those states like DFW, Houston, Austin, Seattle, Phoenix. Very few people are moving to rural areas…

  • @r3mpuh
    @r3mpuh Год назад +1

    Horrible high pitch noise on this video.

  • @boxy3087
    @boxy3087 Год назад +1

    with a very low population at the country side who will be the consumers?

  • @yutoriotsu8848
    @yutoriotsu8848 Год назад

    Japan has another wired Taxtation system named "Furusato nouzei(Hometown Tax)".You can pay a part of resident tax to "any"(literary any local government you don't live in) local goverment.And you get a some gift from the local government.

  • @user-uk7zr4xr7g
    @user-uk7zr4xr7g Год назад +1

    A highly educated woman from a university in Tokyo tells us the biggest demographic challenges of Japan are people moving to Tokyo and highly educated women postponing birth of a first child

  • @LunaR34
    @LunaR34 Год назад +2

    "Tokiyo"

  • @luckysui2460
    @luckysui2460 Год назад

    If they can develop and transfer some big companies and universities to the rural area.

  • @michaelphilip1
    @michaelphilip1 Год назад +2

    They dont even have to pay people. They can just talk to the companies and tell them to do work from home and they will gladly leave

    • @scottanno8861
      @scottanno8861 Год назад

      No they won't, these are Japanese we are talking about. They THRIVE in close quarter living, they call it "convenience".

  • @fukaojacqueline7861
    @fukaojacqueline7861 Год назад +3

    Japanese society certainly puts so much emphasis on the linguistic ability to thrive in corporate environment and in comparison countryside has the mentality of oh you are not from here, your Japanese is not the satisfactory to be included in our community. Honesty we got to change our mentality period to survive upcoming downfall.

  • @Abcabc-rg1mq
    @Abcabc-rg1mq Год назад +2

    Urbanization biggest single reason for fertility decline. Its expensive to have kids in cities.

  • @zohramartini9425
    @zohramartini9425 Год назад

    7000 dollars, one time, per child? It won't work... it is usually 2 months salary in Tokyo where jobs, facilities and amenities are...

  • @PhatBoyzClub
    @PhatBoyzClub Год назад +2

    Heres a thought, stop forcing people to work beyond 5 hours a day. Its pathetic, how do you expect them to have a life. Such a beautiful country ruined by cooperate greed.

  • @georgekung2003utube
    @georgekung2003utube Год назад +7

    can consider to change the corporate culture to allow work from home. it worked during covid time.

    • @michaelleary9233
      @michaelleary9233 Год назад

      Yep, for a while, but now companies everywhere are back to acting like Elon Musk and telling you to come back to the office and sleep there if necessary to beat your competitors.

  • @nicholasthompson7690
    @nicholasthompson7690 Год назад +1

    This is not a new idea. Some parts of the US are doing this by giving $ or tax credit to moving to a more rural area.

  • @bitcorn1501
    @bitcorn1501 Год назад

    On one side of the world I heard news like family with six kids can't even afford to rent in regional areas; in Japan people are paid to move to regional areas with free housing and can even take over a business

  • @christophers5327
    @christophers5327 Год назад +5

    I will preface this by stating I’ve lived in Japan for 3.5 years and am married to a Japanese woman.. People in Japan are never going to just leave the “megapolis” zone once they’ve spent the time and money to plant roots there. I think it’s more realistic that people will be willing to live in the smaller outlying cities as long as it’s fast and convenient to get to work in the main city. If Japan truly wanted to fix their demographic issue they would loosen their immigration laws and policies.

    • @Xplosiv3s
      @Xplosiv3s Год назад +2

      The government is doing it wrong they should be paying companies to leave not families, people follow opportunities which are created by companies....

  • @timkahn2813
    @timkahn2813 Год назад

    the saying if you ever worked farming or fishing all other work is easy after that . its true farming is hard.

  • @khalidhamid7448
    @khalidhamid7448 Год назад +7

    Govt has to move offices ( private / govt) into tier 2-3 cities it will help local economies grow

    • @cinnamonstar808
      @cinnamonstar808 Год назад +1

      it is the solutions: and many countries have implement this. THE PROBLEM politicians dont want to move into the wilderness away from power, convenience and their donors. * its not just the physical location you are moving away from. its also the center of the power

  • @dyhiiragi2540
    @dyhiiragi2540 Год назад +1

    Low salaries and the rising cost of education are probably the main reasons for Japan's declining birthrate. Anyway, college tuition is very expensive. Parents cannot afford it. Nearly half of the students graduate with expensive student loans.

  • @e.t.397
    @e.t.397 Год назад +2

    Its called desperation

  • @RollGlide
    @RollGlide Год назад +36

    All three East Asian countries have the same issue. Tokyo for Japan, Seoul for S. Korea, Beijing/Shanghai/Shenzhen for China. One single mega city amasses huge portion of a nation's resources and talents. It has something to do with the East Asian culture.

    • @chinavirus841
      @chinavirus841 Год назад +20

      Cities is where the jobs are

    • @Pfyzer
      @Pfyzer Год назад +31

      It has nothing to do with culture but more on economy. This happens in every rural areas in the world, farmers have no heir and their town dies. That's just the cycle

    • @thechosenone1533
      @thechosenone1533 Год назад +5

      It's nothing to do with culture,it's the economy. Cities are where the jobs are. This problem exists in the West too. London in the UK, Paris in France,etc.
      The USA has many big cities (NY,LA,San Francisco, Houston,Dallas, Chicago,etc) so it doesn't have this problem.

    • @outisnemo555
      @outisnemo555 Год назад +3

      It’s the same with most European countries, and last time I checked, Europe is not culturally East Asian. In fact, most countries in the world are like this. The US, with its suburban culture, is rather the exception.

    • @billwong888
      @billwong888 Год назад

      Civilization is started with urbanization, or they’re the two descriptions of one same thing. We are still on the same phase of process now.

  • @jpa5038
    @jpa5038 Год назад +1

    Godzilla does not like an overcrowded city. Traffic is a nightmare, the people are packed in there like sardines, just the overall mood of the city is off. Quite frankly it's causing a mild depression.

  • @Charles31822
    @Charles31822 Год назад +3

    This is a move right out Peter Zeihan’s playbook.

    • @MoorishAlliance
      @MoorishAlliance Год назад

      Yeah, hhh go to the countryside. Make some babies!

  • @DrRudolph-FantasticStories
    @DrRudolph-FantasticStories Год назад +1

    Such a great job letting her silver hair grow back, looks fantastic!

  • @Big_Island_Boi
    @Big_Island_Boi Год назад +5

    Paying people to leave simply will not work... unless the $$$ is huge. What they SHOULD be doing is giving people good reasons to want to move to other towns and cities... and that would mainly be JOB opportunities... and/ or ACTIVITIES / LIFESTYLES that simply cannot be had in Tokyo. But, another good options would simply be to put a moratorium or cap on the number of people who can live in the Tokyo area--and require anyone wanting to move IN to that area to get PERMISSION first. Many countries--including Germany--require people to notify the local authorities if and when they move from town to town--and to register with the local authorities when they arrive in a new city. This would take that a step further by requiring them to get permission before moving--and simply not giving permission to any new residents--unless an equal number of residents leave the area first. Tokyo real estate / housing is quite high compared to most of the rest of Japan... so perhaps using that angle--low-cost / affordable / subsidized housing--would work as well. And maybe requiring / encouraging Tokyo base businesses to allow remote working in positions where it is practical would also help. If you can earn a Tokyo wage without living in Tokyo--and get a government subsidized mortgage on a house far from Tokyo--I think that would appeal to a lot of people.

  • @WisdomExplorerAG
    @WisdomExplorerAG Год назад +3

    Japan economy is so doomed. Debt to GDP ratio is at 266%. Highest of any developed country.
    Look at Japan GDP graph, almost 20 YEARS still same at 4.9T.
    And Japan is NO.1 in the world, with it’s ageing population.
    It’s Economy will have to support old people.

  • @gvi341984
    @gvi341984 Год назад +2

    Only this will work is by forcing working at home for many office jobs.

  • @vapeurdepisse
    @vapeurdepisse Год назад +1

    "7 and a half thousand dollars" LOL first time hearing someone say a dollar amount this way

  • @segurosincero4057
    @segurosincero4057 Год назад +3

    The world is facing these same problems.

    • @OliverNorth9729
      @OliverNorth9729 Год назад

      Not, Africa.

    • @segurosincero4057
      @segurosincero4057 Год назад

      @@OliverNorth9729 Africa seems to be bouncing back from AIDS. It is a bright spot in the world. Hopefully we can see the entire continent pulled from poverty and integrated into the global economy.

  • @keshavgupta6150
    @keshavgupta6150 28 дней назад

    I think one solution is moving all major universities and colleges to smaller towns , think about it , other than guest lecturers , most other things are sustained inside campus and students shall bring vitality to the town , and guest speakers can be moved to online role , think about it , with students , also come teachers and entire staffs and spaces left vacantby universities in town could be made community space for people like forests, parks , recreational spots

  • @rees1785
    @rees1785 Год назад

    isnt this just going to drastically inflate the cost of .. well.. Everything in the city? because all the lower earning portion of the population will most likely be the only ones to take advantage of this package by movie out of the city...

  • @Genci0
    @Genci0 Год назад +1

    They should say move and get money and less stress and a new start in a new city where you can jumpstart s new business.

  • @lowfro02
    @lowfro02 Год назад +3

    It's about to get really cheap to buy a house in Japan

  • @yoorly7835
    @yoorly7835 9 месяцев назад +1

    One of the root causes here is the availability of jobs. But there is an easy solution: If the government would mandate that any company above a certain size in Tokyo has to allocate a certain percentage of their office jobs to be eligible for 100% remote work, I believe a large number of people would use this to move to smaller towns gladly. I work in IT and my current employer forces office attendance of 70% despite most of our work being remote friendly and there being too few meeting rooms on-site to even conduct in office work effectively. One-site and hybrid solutions prevent people from moving away.

    • @solarissv777
      @solarissv777 6 месяцев назад

      Yeah, many office jobs can be done remotely, also this would allow to avoid the terrible Japanese office culture with no work-life balance so less suicides. Additionally, maybe, some tax incentives can be put on both workers and employers to incentivize moving to smaller towns as well as putting more people on remote positions.

  • @dinoolivar937
    @dinoolivar937 Год назад

    Interesting 🤔

  • @timkahn2813
    @timkahn2813 Год назад

    living in cities is better thats all.farming is going to be automated fast.farms work better in buildings near consumers and the land with few people is wonderful for everything.

  • @unbreakablerick8358
    @unbreakablerick8358 Год назад

    I would love to have a spot without getting paid but I'm American and no kids, unlucky for me but hope once I'm done here ill move there.

  • @AZ-vu3wu
    @AZ-vu3wu Год назад

    The problem is their strict and outdated work culture that keeper them tied to that center

  • @KIA-MIA-POW
    @KIA-MIA-POW Год назад +13

    Should Japan relax its very draconian immigration laws, they may find it would revitalize rural and regional areas very quickly...

    • @foxooo
      @foxooo Год назад

      No they are extremely low key racist. That won’t work

    • @objetivista686
      @objetivista686 Год назад +16

      Great! Solving a problem create a new one.

    • @krashme997
      @krashme997 Год назад

      Japan isn't as attractive as it used to be (and it wasn't much to begin with), especially with neighboring poor country improving their living conditions and the weakening yen meaning less money to send back home.

    • @dustintacohands1107
      @dustintacohands1107 Год назад

      Japanese not into that that like to completely absorb and assimilate foreigners that move there. Welcoming larger groups I think frightens them.

    • @Swordman1111
      @Swordman1111 Год назад +6

      that's worst possible solution to the problem

  • @bronxishomenomatterwhereig3149
    @bronxishomenomatterwhereig3149 Год назад +1

    This is what happens when everyone wants ease and convenience. And few are willing to do the work to provide it. Everyone wants to go where it's already built up. Few wants to go somewhere where they have to build. People just ain't willing to do the hardwork.

  • @user-mz8ge7dx4o
    @user-mz8ge7dx4o Год назад

    Many goes to the big cities thinking having more better life but I really dont think so.

  • @leia4354
    @leia4354 8 месяцев назад

    Manila, Philippines has same problems.. rural are in Philippines being neglected

  • @Homeschoolsw6
    @Homeschoolsw6 Год назад

    4:56....The noise pollution would be less outside Tokyo.

  • @JimLambrick
    @JimLambrick Год назад +1

    Increasing levels of urbanization are the curse that is going to kill a lot of developed countries. Young people have either been born in big urban centers and tend to act like caged canaries, too scared to leave their security blanket, concrete silo homes. Or they migrate for social, education or jobs from country to city. Obviously creating industrial/commercial zones in smaller towns thru carrot and stick tax policy would be good move. Even better, get a few TV sitcom shows where the 'heroes'' move to the country and it becomes 'cool' would help a lot. A lot of this problem is rooted in social status factors.

  • @waynegore5291
    @waynegore5291 Год назад +2

    Japan is preparing 2nd mushroom gift from USA.

  • @neroprintingservices
    @neroprintingservices Год назад

    how?