Idk who it was that said it but it was something along the lines of “Capitalism takes away my personhood and then gives me books on how to be a better person.”
It reminds me of a clip I see a lot from Zendaya when she is asked what she does when she is like finished with a filming project or whatever and she says "nothing. I do nothing" and that always had an impact on me. She's smart and understands the need to switch off from work mode and disconnect from a role once your done with it.
Girl i knew died last year, she was 50! The only thing they referenced at her memorial at work (NHS) was her job, very depersonalised. She has been erased in the department now. That was the lesson i needed.
the comment about how companies don't care how long you worked on something and only about the fact that it got done really isn't true from what i've seen. when more people were working from home during the pandemic we saw productivity skyrocket but because the companies saw that their employees were actually happy and got to do things they enjoyed during work hours like going out on a walk or doing some errands or something, they got upset and wanted to regain control of everyone and so forced everyone back in the office where productivity went down again but the companies didn't care because they had more control over them again and got to watch over their every move
They don't care how many more hours you put into something than you were paid for, but absolutely care if they are paying for time you're spending on other things. It's all about the deliverable when it's crunch time, but don't you dare STEAL any company time.
Thank you so much for this video. It really helped me put words on some feelings I'm having about our society at large. Yes we are constantly supposed to be productive in every aspect of our lives. We're supposed to work long hours but also cook everything from scratch, work out, be up-to-date on the latest articles, books, films and TV, have perfect clean houses... And that is exhausting.
I don’t often comment on things like this… I just left a job that was more concerned about the quantity of tasks I completed each day, and not the quality. We were told the company will decide whether or not we deserved raises based on that quantity. To me, this is toxic productivity. Being constantly told I was not as good as a fellow co-worker - a person from another team who had worked there longer than me. My mistakes were minor, and were corrected immediately, however, my manager took them as a personal affront. The condescending vitriol over 10 minutes of overtime was beyond ridiculous. Working remotely, I was constantly monitored with random phone calls to see if I was at my desk. And heaven forbid if my Teams status was yellow even if for a minute! So I quit. It was affecting my mental health. If crying before, during, and after work was going to be my life, then I didn’t need it. Do I have a job now? No. Eventually, yes. Generally speaking, I don’t hate anything. Working at this company made me hate.
My agency also uses Teams to supposedly monitor us, but i don't think they do very much. My status is often yellow (I don't specifically use teams for my tasks, so it often goes yellow) and no one has said anything to us.
I struggle with anxiety and depression, and am on the autistic spectrum. Despite how much I hate so much interaction with the public,I’ve managed to get myself hired at different retail jobs working part time. Part time hours is the most I can manage, but I’m expected to start working full time because that’s what I’m supposed to do. I need to get a full time job with benefits no matter what it could do to my mental health. I am not lazy. I want to work. I have worked, just because I’ve only worked part time doesn’t lessen the fact that I have work experience. But according to my dad, that’s not enough, I have to bite the bullet and work full time fast. I’m not opposed to working full time in the future, but now I can’t. I can only handle part time and I hate feeling like I’m lazy because I don’t feel I’m ready to work full time because it’s just expected of me
Is it the hours themselves, or the hours of specific type of work? I think an uncommon but useful alternative is to have two (or more) part time jobs that are diverse enough to complement each other, rather than feeling drained by too much of the one thing. Just an idea if you're needing to do full time hours for financial reasons. Like most people, I think these expectations should change at a system level, reducing the work week to 4 days or fewer hours every day. Until then, unfortunately we need to find ways of supporting ourselves.
@rhyscooper3693 -- Not OP, but here's my two cents : it's the "people'ing" combined with having to mask our differences in order to be considered acceptable (and not be bullied) and having to second guess everything we do and that others say in order to determine if there was some 'unspoken' hidden second meaning we were expected to catch (or that they thought *we* were implying) because why be honest and direct when you can use implications and social white-lies? . Two different jobs is likely not the answer. Most autistic people prefer some sort of routine, and two jobs doubles the possible chaos, plus there's then double the amount of coworkers and/or customers (and bosses) to try and work with or around or in spite of. . On top of that, a lot of us are introverts, and need more downtime in quiet settings. . But ofc, we also need to eat and put a roof over our heads. And since pay is so unequal now to cost of living, it means we live in a cycle of exhausting fulltime work, burnout, lose job, rinse and repeat.
Late reply, but I'm also autistic and full-time work has never been possible for me. I tried a few times and burned myself out. Even part-time can be too exhausting and lead to burnout if the job is demanding. Conjugating work with other life stressors can be hard too. It might be different in your situation, but I've been able to find part-time jobs that pay enough to cover my rent, food & bills, plus a little extra. It's not glamorous, but being able to rest and spend time on my own projects is really helpful. You might also be eligible for some government support (or money from other organizations).
I got fired yesterday and I actually said “thank you”. 😂 For some reason, my mind can’t perform very consistently. I hope to be able to do something stable that can accommodate that.
I have had this thought at a few jobs....it got to the point where I was like "if they fired me today i would actually feel relieved, not sad" . That's usually the beginning of the end 🤣
@@EshaBby444 right!? The thing is that some jobs don’t warrant you to leave your house, but they still insist on it. I have had jobs that consisted of about one hours worth of labor checking emails, but demanded 8 hours of my day downtown. Those are the workplaces that I really resent. Technically, it’s easy because it’s almost free money- I would do almost nothing in a cubicle and still get paid every two weeks. BUT, I get under-stimulated very easily, and I struggle to stay still in a location with no activity or challenging tasks. So, I withdraw until they fire me or I make an excuse to quit. I really hate that cycle. But there’s no reason for me to clock in at 8:00 am to a job I don’t want when there are countless people who would be grateful to have the work/income to feed their kids. So I have no problem just leaving unbothered. 🤷♀️
Yeah I am a licensed massage therapist. It''s really rude and alarming how many clients ask me if I have ever thought about owning my own place. Because me having more free time and less taxes due to working for someone is clearly inferior. Why can't I just live and pursue other hobbies and interests???
The only things i'm ambitious about are a roof on my head, a bed to sleep, food, and a space where i can do whatever i want with no compromises nor expectations. Guess I must be one of the least ambitious people on earth.
I’m the same way! I don’t care about competition or climbing some ladder. The hustlers can do that. I just want my bills paid and some free time with my dog. 🤷♀️
Literally. Thank god I don't need or want overly nice things. Just a house that's good for me and my family and a car that doesn't look like it got dropped out of a helicopter
Preach. I go to my job to make money so I can fund my goofy hobbies. Yes, I do love the people I work with, the department I work with, and being a public servant (which isn't going to be obsessed with making as much money as possible), but when I clock out at 4:30, I don't think about work again, until 8am the next business day. And yes, I realize I'm extremely fortunate to have this work-life balance.
I found this mindset and socioeconomic pressure was one of the toughest things to overcome when coming to terms with a permanent medical disability! Taking the rest needed to stay effective in my limited remaining functional hours carried a whole lot of guilt and frustration, and can so often be mischaracterized by outsiders as "unproductivity" or even laziness😖 And of course has major impact on earning ability too, further intensifying financial impacts of ill health. In a capitalist society which values only how exploitable we are as workers, those with disability really have to fight to retain any respect and a sense of self-worth? In our cultures where women are still stereotypically expected to bear the brunt of responsibility for kids and older parents despite all progress, I feel like this trend also both impacts them disproportionately & is very much targeted at them as an aesthetic? Maintaining healthy work/life boundaries is even more essential if supposed leisure hours are basically all spent caregiving, but holding that line is frequently demonised in the workplace via misogynistic critique about how women are less effective/productive employees etc, and is made harder by inadequate corporate accommodations to family responsibilities. When you combine all that with still-persistent gendered pay gaps, lack of societal respect for caregivers, and the fact childbearing & caretaking of ageing parents both usually overlap with years of highest potential earnings & professional progress... 😬 The psychological and financial pressures to accept the unhealthiest habits of capitalism & push oneself to conatant burnout can be extreme... and the longterm effects on physical & mental health can be very serious.
@anna_in_aotearoa3166 -- Can I just say ditto, ditto, and more ditto? Seriously, all of what you said is spot on. Regarding the disability, the worst is having an invisible disability and people intellectually acknowledging that oh sure you're disabled, but obviously silently judging you according to their own capabilities (and extensive medical school education-gained knowledge *that they don't actually have* too, ofc). Their actions and attitude show their real disbelief and judgement.
@iprobablyforgotsomething Yes, you've hit the nail on the head there! 😅 Invisible disability makes it much harder for people to accept any unusual needs & suspend judgement, unfortunately, and most really have no understanding of how various chronic conditions affect sufferers? The thing that really shocked me to discover was how many people (otherwise pretty decent-seeming) simply didn't CARE how their behaviour affected a colleague with medical disabilities, no matter how much info they were provided with? Habit, personal convenience, prejudice or what-have-you still won out... That's a major failure of empathy I find very hard to comprehend. Hurting others in ignorance is bad enough, but harming people knowingly, simply out of selfishness or laziness, is just such a huge YIKES to me?
@anna_in_aotearoa3166 -- I also cannot relate to such a lack of sympathy / empathy. I can admit that I'm more moved to help someone I care for, and it can be difficult for me to do things for others (especially that I don't care for) when it costs me something intangable but which I can't much afford atm (like time and mental capacity-energy when my health is always in flux and unpredictably so). Yet even when it costs me a little but is not catastrophically derailing (a little derailing but not unrecoverably) and even if I don't like a person, I'll often to what I can to if help, and if not help at least not hinder them. . But so often things cost nothing, yet others won't make minor adjustments or changes... . Or someone on a power-trip won't *allow* others to help even when there's no reason not to stop them except to feel in control. Like once I worked in retail and was regularly attending church so requested to keep having Sundays off on my schedule and my coworker who didn't attend was totally fine with working then and even volunteered to stay covering that day. But our new manager needed to feel all-powerful by having us obey her orders when she needlessly re-arranged the perfectly-fine work schedule we'd already had. It was petty and pathetic and nobody gained anything from it, not even her, except for headaches. . I say in all seriousness, everyone should be in therapy. Work through their trauma, then work on being a more decent human being, and the whole world'd be a better place.
@iprobablyforgotsomething That kind of pointless power-tripping is sad & frustrating to see, isn't it? 😔 Suggests somebody who's very unhappy, & finding their only empowerment in spreading that unhappiness around! Yes, I agree, wish therapy, counseling & mental health support of all kinds were far more accessible, affordable & normalized? Completely concur that would make most aspects of the world much better! One can even make a strong argument for tangible economic benefit (the almighty yardstick in a capitalist society!) Some argue that sciopathy is a useful trait in business leadership, but I'd contend that eliminating such decidedly dysfunctional behaviours by people in positions of power actually leads to far greater productivity & efficiency. Not to mention a far more engaged & functional workforce!
@@anna_in_aotearoa3166 It is *so* frustrating, yes. Just as much so is the fact that better leaders would be better for long-term gains and stability... but investors, stockholders and etc. only care about short-term. They'll push for continual growth (unrealistic and impossible) and every quarter ever-increasing gains. Instead of acknowledging the reality of slow times and decline for reasons out of human control, and having quality leadership to weather the storm. So you get car salesmen and socio's that tell them what they want to hear put in charge and setting unreasonable goals and expectations and hours (and terrible pay) because for a short period of time, that will cause unprecedented gains. After the good people burn out and quit, or the normal fall of a rise-fall cycle hits, they just let a company fold and sell it or cash in their insurance or whatever, because they have so much money (even though they still always want moremoremore) that they don't need a company to actually last; they just need to make the biggest buck-bang possible before they lose interest or the business environment / society changes. Whoever of the commonfolk who loses out doesn't matter, company pride, social values, doesn't matter. It's like they don't get that it's better to have a company that lasts more than a single year, or that if they bankrupt their employees and similar financial-classes, there's no one to sell to, or that one doesn't actually need to have more money than they can burn in THREE lifetimes, and ffs you can't take it with you when you die, anyway. : /
32 year old Millennial here. Although I do stop working at 5 and enjoy myself with TV and puzzles, I NEVER feel like I’m good enough at work and it is inextricably tied to my self-worth. And I definitely only care about output and have no desire to glamorize productivity or make special journals. All I need is my phone calendar.
I am from another's country and have come to realize that people in the USA they don't have much space to do anything other than work. The way the country seems to work doesn't let the people socialize or do anything outside of work
I have had to bend and worked all sorts of crazy hours, all nighters, 20hrs for days, 90hrs in six days, 60hrs for a month and so on. I also take the most days off within my company. For personal days or family day, and if its a slower week, taking off early. Its hard because so many people I work with, work all the time and weekends... The person that I took over was burned out because he worked all the time.. As a middle manager with six people on my team. I try to stress health and family first and take time off. Since as long as I can remember. I hated how people tend to live for work instead work to live. It just doesn't make sense to me. In a small role I have I try to change it but its hard.
If anyone finds this subject fascinating, I highly recommend the book Capitalist Realism by Mark Fisher (also Fisher's manny, many wonderful lectures here on YT) and the book Psychopolitics: Neoliberalism and the New Technologies of Power by Byung Chul-Han. There's also the philosopher Slavoj Zizek's work on this topic that is worth looking in to.
I am a Southerner. You are relaxed and have fun while working. But living in the Midwest, folks think that is goofing off. They stress their focus and tense up physically over doing anything and weigh minor, easy tasks the same as major, hard tasks. Zero sense of nuance. No understanding that there is detrimental, beneficial, pointless, as well as useful work. It's all useful to them. No wonder MN unions do nothing to solve an issue. When Covid struck and quarantine happened, I adapted well. But my Midwestern co-workers barely realized what detrimental pact their labor-view had on their lives. They spoke of it in a way someone without the words or intellectual concept would speak of an exotic discovery for which they lack the words and concept. It was truly exotic to them to have even an inkling of nuance about labor. I have lived in a few very different parts of America and I gotta tell you that from a corporate standpoint that work ethic only means one should shut up, over commit, enslave yourself, and buy into ideas that lack common sense.
After working for organizations, agencies, or jobs that insisted on working me to the bone for little pay, verbally abusing me, and giving promotions to unqualified workers, I’m now living a very ‘Anti-American productivity’ life right now.
I’m a millenial from what used to be a socialist country. I find it quite funny that it’s actually my parents who always pushed me to monetize any of my skills, and reacted negatively to any volunteering work I’d done. I assume it’s because they lived through the transition into capitalism and were trying to catch up.
This seems like a consequence from a cultural mess up: for instance if you are encouraged to rent housing instead of home ownership, you will be a slave to your job without feeling like you are owning your future :( What is the point of working if you are feeling like you are just giving your money to landlords instead of to your family and yourself?
When gen z started to defend Miranda from the Devil wears Prada y understood that something is wrong about how newer generations view work and productivity. Is not that the boyfriend from that movie was a good or bad guy. But Miranda was toxic and was an antagonist. And people keep defending her just because they hate the boyfriend more. Miranda wasn’t a good boss, she was toxic and abusive
I wake up at 5:00 am, cook my lunch, shower, have a pre gym snack (bread with butter and coffee) then I workout until 7:00 am give or take. Then I work 8-5 taking an hour lunch at 12 of course. And the rest of the day I just do whatever I want, playing games or watching TV mainly. And I do sometimes feel like I am not being productive enough, as I want to start my own business but I guess don't feel as much pressure since my basic needs are pretty much met yet the anxiety of having so much free time and not doing what I'm supposed to it's still there. so yeah, I know where this comes from.
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In my life, I always noticed people assumed I was this type A, workaholic person. They’d rage when they realized I was only ever perfect in school and successful in any job and good with money because I spend the bulk majority of my time recreationally or even moreso, resting. Nothing in the universe is efficient if it’s energy is depleted. Yet people think they can be.
It's quite poignant that as soon as you talked about how everything needs to be monetized, including hobbies, how everything needs to be improved... you add in an ad about something that will "take the pain away", by minimizing the hassle around cooking. Capitalist nightmare indeed, because even suffering is monetized
rotfl, this ad provides such an interesting twist from complaining about a culture where every hobby is monetized... this product will make us free of stress otherwise needed to arrange meals ;)
Nah! Work to live, not live to work. You need more socialism in the US. Don’t destroy your life over a job that will drop you in a second to employ someone younger, with less experience, for less money
We only have two choices if we’re being intellectually honest: Unless we are wealthy, or have benefactors, our choices are only to hustle or have a *shi ttier* quality of life. I say shi ttier cause working yourself to death is not ideal. Sure, we all know people who collect welfare from the government but if you look carefully: the people collecting checks from the government often have a buttload of kids. In other words, you don’t get to be single with no kids and be collecting checks from the government. When you are single and you don’t work, you run out of money and get to be homeless. There are few to no benefits for you (at least in Canada 🇨🇦). And if you have to have a lot of kids to get money then your life sucks anyway. The only other way to get money somewhat reliably is to have disability. But if you collect disability checks then the government is on your case all the time trying to catch you lying (At least in Canada 🇨🇦) and your life sucks in this way as well. There goes your chance to live your best life. The best you can hope for is to win the lottery or have a job where you gotta hustle but at least one that pays really, really well. Or you can be entrepreneur but then you hustle more than ever (at least the first few years) and now with risk of making no money but at least if you fail then you fail on your own terms. 🎵 _Cause it's a bittersweet symphony, that's life. Tryna make ends meet, you're a slave to money then you die._ 🎵
Yah I'm sorry but I'm gonna have to disagree with this one. Productivity to me is chasing my dreams, some of us start life with very few advantages and need to claw our way to the top by any means necessary if we want even the slightest chance for our lives to have an impact on the world. So if you're telling me I have to skip a week at the beach and spend a week in the office in order to secure my legacy, then so be it. Idealisticly I'm sure this video *could be helpful. But in reality I think most people will just use this as validation and justification to be lazy and put in less effort towards their goals.
You’re just licking boots. You’re not chasing your dreams you’re giving someone else your dream while they placate you with a vacation No one watches this video and uses it as an excuse to be lazy. That is something you made up.
If they're truly your dreams and you're willing to chase them, then it's not "toxic productivity". But if you're doing all that chasing precisely because you feel disadvantaged, like you _have_ to put in the extra work in order to be successful in the eyes of others, because you think "being on top" is how other people define success, that's toxic productivity.. Goals are flexible and differ between people. What you might call being "lazy" or "unambitious", I call having peace of mind and looking out for my own health.
Laziness doesn't exist. And if you care about your "legacy" more than the living the life you actually get when you're here, it's time to start reevaluating your values
wtf does feminism have to do with anything? also yeah no shit people don't like being overworked and abused tf? people deserve to be able to live their lives and not be constantly stressed bc they feel they need to be productive at all times/need to overwork themselves bc they can't pay bills otherwise
Because god forbid women have the option to work and want better working conditions as well. Besides, a lot of progressive thought actually critiques this toxic line of thought too. So what exactly are you trying to say?
@@seebothways9630 sounds like you have too much time on your hands kiddo. You’re obviously projecting and the fact you are bringing up politics in a non political comment stream is pretty pathetic. Let me guess your whole identity revolves around your politics and that red hat cult that you belong to. Your family probably can’t stand you cuz you bring up your stupid political opinions at family gatherings. I have a couple in my family and nobody can stand you cuz their life revolves around their orange savior
Giving into toxic productivity just makes you more exploitable to the billionaires. It's not going to make you one of them. If anything, it further contributes to the gross inequality making sure that the poor stay poor, no matter how hard or how much they work. You're just reciting the propaganda you were taught to help keep you poor and easily exploitable
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Idk who it was that said it but it was something along the lines of “Capitalism takes away my personhood and then gives me books on how to be a better person.”
Broey Deschanel said it in her video "Love at the end of History".
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Sells you. It *sells* you the books, podcasts, etc.
It reminds me of a clip I see a lot from Zendaya when she is asked what she does when she is like finished with a filming project or whatever and she says "nothing. I do nothing" and that always had an impact on me. She's smart and understands the need to switch off from work mode and disconnect from a role once your done with it.
Girl i knew died last year, she was 50! The only thing they referenced at her memorial at work (NHS) was her job, very depersonalised. She has been erased in the department now. That was the lesson i needed.
the comment about how companies don't care how long you worked on something and only about the fact that it got done really isn't true from what i've seen. when more people were working from home during the pandemic we saw productivity skyrocket but because the companies saw that their employees were actually happy and got to do things they enjoyed during work hours like going out on a walk or doing some errands or something, they got upset and wanted to regain control of everyone and so forced everyone back in the office where productivity went down again but the companies didn't care because they had more control over them again and got to watch over their every move
They don't care how many more hours you put into something than you were paid for, but absolutely care if they are paying for time you're spending on other things. It's all about the deliverable when it's crunch time, but don't you dare STEAL any company time.
Yeah it's crazy to think about the fact that they were willing to take a hit in productivity in order to exert more control
This completely depends on if the employees are salaried or hourly. Obviously.
@@rishabhanand4973only for HOURLY employees.
Interesting
Thank you so much for this video.
It really helped me put words on some feelings I'm having about our society at large. Yes we are constantly supposed to be productive in every aspect of our lives.
We're supposed to work long hours but also cook everything from scratch, work out, be up-to-date on the latest articles, books, films and TV, have perfect clean houses... And that is exhausting.
I don’t often comment on things like this… I just left a job that was more concerned about the quantity of tasks I completed each day, and not the quality. We were told the company will decide whether or not we deserved raises based on that quantity. To me, this is toxic productivity. Being constantly told I was not as good as a fellow co-worker - a person from another team who had worked there longer than me. My mistakes were minor, and were corrected immediately, however, my manager took them as a personal affront. The condescending vitriol over 10 minutes of overtime was beyond ridiculous. Working remotely, I was constantly monitored with random phone calls to see if I was at my desk. And heaven forbid if my Teams status was yellow even if for a minute! So I quit. It was affecting my mental health. If crying before, during, and after work was going to be my life, then I didn’t need it. Do I have a job now? No. Eventually, yes. Generally speaking, I don’t hate anything. Working at this company made me hate.
My agency also uses Teams to supposedly monitor us, but i don't think they do very much. My status is often yellow (I don't specifically use teams for my tasks, so it often goes yellow) and no one has said anything to us.
‘Severance’ just blew my mind and I’m sad that people didn’t give it more love. Such a lovely dark satire on modern work culture.
@@amiyanath7848Nice to meet you too!
Hustling and working for the almighty dollar instead of just trying to live life
I struggle with anxiety and depression, and am on the autistic spectrum. Despite how much I hate so much interaction with the public,I’ve managed to get myself hired at different retail jobs working part time. Part time hours is the most I can manage, but I’m expected to start working full time because that’s what I’m supposed to do. I need to get a full time job with benefits no matter what it could do to my mental health.
I am not lazy. I want to work. I have worked, just because I’ve only worked part time doesn’t lessen the fact that I have work experience. But according to my dad, that’s not enough, I have to bite the bullet and work full time fast.
I’m not opposed to working full time in the future, but now I can’t. I can only handle part time and I hate feeling like I’m lazy because I don’t feel I’m ready to work full time because it’s just expected of me
Is it the hours themselves, or the hours of specific type of work? I think an uncommon but useful alternative is to have two (or more) part time jobs that are diverse enough to complement each other, rather than feeling drained by too much of the one thing. Just an idea if you're needing to do full time hours for financial reasons.
Like most people, I think these expectations should change at a system level, reducing the work week to 4 days or fewer hours every day. Until then, unfortunately we need to find ways of supporting ourselves.
@rhyscooper3693 -- Not OP, but here's my two cents : it's the "people'ing" combined with having to mask our differences in order to be considered acceptable (and not be bullied) and having to second guess everything we do and that others say in order to determine if there was some 'unspoken' hidden second meaning we were expected to catch (or that they thought *we* were implying) because why be honest and direct when you can use implications and social white-lies?
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Two different jobs is likely not the answer. Most autistic people prefer some sort of routine, and two jobs doubles the possible chaos, plus there's then double the amount of coworkers and/or customers (and bosses) to try and work with or around or in spite of.
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On top of that, a lot of us are introverts, and need more downtime in quiet settings.
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But ofc, we also need to eat and put a roof over our heads. And since pay is so unequal now to cost of living, it means we live in a cycle of exhausting fulltime work, burnout, lose job, rinse and repeat.
Late reply, but I'm also autistic and full-time work has never been possible for me. I tried a few times and burned myself out. Even part-time can be too exhausting and lead to burnout if the job is demanding. Conjugating work with other life stressors can be hard too.
It might be different in your situation, but I've been able to find part-time jobs that pay enough to cover my rent, food & bills, plus a little extra. It's not glamorous, but being able to rest and spend time on my own projects is really helpful. You might also be eligible for some government support (or money from other organizations).
I've met PLENTY of bosses who care more about their team that looks busy rather than good results.
Weirdly reminds me of college.
I got fired yesterday and I actually said “thank you”. 😂 For some reason, my mind can’t perform very consistently. I hope to be able to do something stable that can accommodate that.
I have had this thought at a few jobs....it got to the point where I was like "if they fired me today i would actually feel relieved, not sad" . That's usually the beginning of the end 🤣
@@EshaBby444 right!? The thing is that some jobs don’t warrant you to leave your house, but they still insist on it.
I have had jobs that consisted of about one hours worth of labor checking emails, but demanded 8 hours of my day downtown. Those are the workplaces that I really resent.
Technically, it’s easy because it’s almost free money- I would do almost nothing in a cubicle and still get paid every two weeks. BUT, I get under-stimulated very easily, and I struggle to stay still in a location with no activity or challenging tasks. So, I withdraw until they fire me or I make an excuse to quit. I really hate that cycle. But there’s no reason for me to clock in at 8:00 am to a job I don’t want when there are countless people who would be grateful to have the work/income to feed their kids. So I have no problem just leaving unbothered. 🤷♀️
Yeah I am a licensed massage therapist. It''s really rude and alarming how many clients ask me if I have ever thought about owning my own place.
Because me having more free time and less taxes due to working for someone is clearly inferior.
Why can't I just live and pursue other hobbies and interests???
The only things i'm ambitious about are a roof on my head, a bed to sleep, food, and a space where i can do whatever i want with no compromises nor expectations. Guess I must be one of the least ambitious people on earth.
I’m the same way! I don’t care about competition or climbing some ladder. The hustlers can do that. I just want my bills paid and some free time with my dog. 🤷♀️
Join my club guys! My ambition stops at living comfortably with enough disposable income for my hobbies. I’m happy to just coast along and chill.
That's actually really ambitious, most people dont succeed to think that way
Literally. Thank god I don't need or want overly nice things.
Just a house that's good for me and my family and a car that doesn't look like it got dropped out of a helicopter
Preach. I go to my job to make money so I can fund my goofy hobbies. Yes, I do love the people I work with, the department I work with, and being a public servant (which isn't going to be obsessed with making as much money as possible), but when I clock out at 4:30, I don't think about work again, until 8am the next business day. And yes, I realize I'm extremely fortunate to have this work-life balance.
I found this mindset and socioeconomic pressure was one of the toughest things to overcome when coming to terms with a permanent medical disability! Taking the rest needed to stay effective in my limited remaining functional hours carried a whole lot of guilt and frustration, and can so often be mischaracterized by outsiders as "unproductivity" or even laziness😖 And of course has major impact on earning ability too, further intensifying financial impacts of ill health. In a capitalist society which values only how exploitable we are as workers, those with disability really have to fight to retain any respect and a sense of self-worth?
In our cultures where women are still stereotypically expected to bear the brunt of responsibility for kids and older parents despite all progress, I feel like this trend also both impacts them disproportionately & is very much targeted at them as an aesthetic? Maintaining healthy work/life boundaries is even more essential if supposed leisure hours are basically all spent caregiving, but holding that line is frequently demonised in the workplace via misogynistic critique about how women are less effective/productive employees etc, and is made harder by inadequate corporate accommodations to family responsibilities.
When you combine all that with still-persistent gendered pay gaps, lack of societal respect for caregivers, and the fact childbearing & caretaking of ageing parents both usually overlap with years of highest potential earnings & professional progress... 😬 The psychological and financial pressures to accept the unhealthiest habits of capitalism & push oneself to conatant burnout can be extreme... and the longterm effects on physical & mental health can be very serious.
@anna_in_aotearoa3166 -- Can I just say ditto, ditto, and more ditto? Seriously, all of what you said is spot on. Regarding the disability, the worst is having an invisible disability and people intellectually acknowledging that oh sure you're disabled, but obviously silently judging you according to their own capabilities (and extensive medical school education-gained knowledge *that they don't actually have* too, ofc). Their actions and attitude show their real disbelief and judgement.
@iprobablyforgotsomething Yes, you've hit the nail on the head there! 😅 Invisible disability makes it much harder for people to accept any unusual needs & suspend judgement, unfortunately, and most really have no understanding of how various chronic conditions affect sufferers?
The thing that really shocked me to discover was how many people (otherwise pretty decent-seeming) simply didn't CARE how their behaviour affected a colleague with medical disabilities, no matter how much info they were provided with? Habit, personal convenience, prejudice or what-have-you still won out... That's a major failure of empathy I find very hard to comprehend. Hurting others in ignorance is bad enough, but harming people knowingly, simply out of selfishness or laziness, is just such a huge YIKES to me?
@anna_in_aotearoa3166 -- I also cannot relate to such a lack of sympathy / empathy. I can admit that I'm more moved to help someone I care for, and it can be difficult for me to do things for others (especially that I don't care for) when it costs me something intangable but which I can't much afford atm (like time and mental capacity-energy when my health is always in flux and unpredictably so). Yet even when it costs me a little but is not catastrophically derailing (a little derailing but not unrecoverably) and even if I don't like a person, I'll often to what I can to if help, and if not help at least not hinder them.
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But so often things cost nothing, yet others won't make minor adjustments or changes...
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Or someone on a power-trip won't *allow* others to help even when there's no reason not to stop them except to feel in control. Like once I worked in retail and was regularly attending church so requested to keep having Sundays off on my schedule and my coworker who didn't attend was totally fine with working then and even volunteered to stay covering that day. But our new manager needed to feel all-powerful by having us obey her orders when she needlessly re-arranged the perfectly-fine work schedule we'd already had. It was petty and pathetic and nobody gained anything from it, not even her, except for headaches.
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I say in all seriousness, everyone should be in therapy. Work through their trauma, then work on being a more decent human being, and the whole world'd be a better place.
@iprobablyforgotsomething That kind of pointless power-tripping is sad & frustrating to see, isn't it? 😔 Suggests somebody who's very unhappy, & finding their only empowerment in spreading that unhappiness around!
Yes, I agree, wish therapy, counseling & mental health support of all kinds were far more accessible, affordable & normalized? Completely concur that would make most aspects of the world much better!
One can even make a strong argument for tangible economic benefit (the almighty yardstick in a capitalist society!) Some argue that sciopathy is a useful trait in business leadership, but I'd contend that eliminating such decidedly dysfunctional behaviours by people in positions of power actually leads to far greater productivity & efficiency. Not to mention a far more engaged & functional workforce!
@@anna_in_aotearoa3166 It is *so* frustrating, yes. Just as much so is the fact that better leaders would be better for long-term gains and stability... but investors, stockholders and etc. only care about short-term. They'll push for continual growth (unrealistic and impossible) and every quarter ever-increasing gains. Instead of acknowledging the reality of slow times and decline for reasons out of human control, and having quality leadership to weather the storm. So you get car salesmen and socio's that tell them what they want to hear put in charge and setting unreasonable goals and expectations and hours (and terrible pay) because for a short period of time, that will cause unprecedented gains.
After the good people burn out and quit, or the normal fall of a rise-fall cycle hits, they just let a company fold and sell it or cash in their insurance or whatever, because they have so much money (even though they still always want moremoremore) that they don't need a company to actually last; they just need to make the biggest buck-bang possible before they lose interest or the business environment / society changes. Whoever of the commonfolk who loses out doesn't matter, company pride, social values, doesn't matter.
It's like they don't get that it's better to have a company that lasts more than a single year, or that if they bankrupt their employees and similar financial-classes, there's no one to sell to, or that one doesn't actually need to have more money than they can burn in THREE lifetimes, and ffs you can't take it with you when you die, anyway. : /
thank you, I needed this.
32 year old Millennial here. Although I do stop working at 5 and enjoy myself with TV and puzzles, I NEVER feel like I’m good enough at work and it is inextricably tied to my self-worth. And I definitely only care about output and have no desire to glamorize productivity or make special journals. All I need is my phone calendar.
I am from another's country and have come to realize that people in the USA they don't have much space to do anything other than work. The way the country seems to work doesn't let the people socialize or do anything outside of work
"Work is third." Thank you for the excellent mike drop!
I have had to bend and worked all sorts of crazy hours, all nighters, 20hrs for days, 90hrs in six days, 60hrs for a month and so on. I also take the most days off within my company. For personal days or family day, and if its a slower week, taking off early. Its hard because so many people I work with, work all the time and weekends... The person that I took over was burned out because he worked all the time..
As a middle manager with six people on my team. I try to stress health and family first and take time off. Since as long as I can remember. I hated how people tend to live for work instead work to live. It just doesn't make sense to me. In a small role I have I try to change it but its hard.
Thanks. I needed to see this. 🥺
If anyone finds this subject fascinating, I highly recommend the book Capitalist Realism by Mark Fisher (also Fisher's manny, many wonderful lectures here on YT) and the book Psychopolitics: Neoliberalism and the New Technologies of Power by Byung Chul-Han. There's also the philosopher Slavoj Zizek's work on this topic that is worth looking in to.
I am a Southerner. You are relaxed and have fun while working. But living in the Midwest, folks think that is goofing off. They stress their focus and tense up physically over doing anything and weigh minor, easy tasks the same as major, hard tasks. Zero sense of nuance. No understanding that there is detrimental, beneficial, pointless, as well as useful work. It's all useful to them. No wonder MN unions do nothing to solve an issue. When Covid struck and quarantine happened, I adapted well. But my Midwestern co-workers barely realized what detrimental pact their labor-view had on their lives. They spoke of it in a way someone without the words or intellectual concept would speak of an exotic discovery for which they lack the words and concept. It was truly exotic to them to have even an inkling of nuance about labor. I have lived in a few very different parts of America and I gotta tell you that from a corporate standpoint that work ethic only means one should shut up, over commit, enslave yourself, and buy into ideas that lack common sense.
I just sent this to my therapist. She’s always telling me that 😅
13:17 Btw, Parks and Rec is the best
After working for organizations, agencies, or jobs that insisted on working me to the bone for little pay, verbally abusing me, and giving promotions to unqualified workers, I’m now living a very ‘Anti-American productivity’ life right now.
0:57 ‘Extraordinary’ is just so funny. I hope people realise the genius that it is. Also, echoing this character’s words lol
I actually just discovered it and watched it this past weekend. Fully agree that more people should check it out!
thank you, I was wondering whats the show
"We all love the feeling of being productive "...bold of you to assume 😅
the two times I set limits at work, one I was persecuted, the other I was fired. I was buning out in both
Even as a workaholic the idea that EVERYTHING should be improved upon - like every aspect of life ... way too terrifying and also stupid
I'm surprised Office Space didn't get a shout out.
Truly needed this. Thank you.
I’m a millenial from what used to be a socialist country. I find it quite funny that it’s actually my parents who always pushed me to monetize any of my skills, and reacted negatively to any volunteering work I’d done. I assume it’s because they lived through the transition into capitalism and were trying to catch up.
This seems like a consequence from a cultural mess up: for instance if you are encouraged to rent housing instead of home ownership, you will be a slave to your job without feeling like you are owning your future :( What is the point of working if you are feeling like you are just giving your money to landlords instead of to your family and yourself?
Great video i wonder if you could do a video analysis on abused kids, I've always wondered how they are potrayed in media
I don't undestand why there are so many shots from Extraordinary, this show is definitely not about work
When gen z started to defend Miranda from the Devil wears Prada y understood that something is wrong about how newer generations view work and productivity. Is not that the boyfriend from that movie was a good or bad guy. But Miranda was toxic and was an antagonist. And people keep defending her just because they hate the boyfriend more. Miranda wasn’t a good boss, she was toxic and abusive
I wake up at 5:00 am, cook my lunch, shower, have a pre gym snack (bread with butter and coffee) then I workout until 7:00 am give or take. Then I work 8-5 taking an hour lunch at 12 of course. And the rest of the day I just do whatever I want, playing games or watching TV mainly. And I do sometimes feel like I am not being productive enough, as I want to start my own business but I guess don't feel as much pressure since my basic needs are pretty much met yet the anxiety of having so much free time and not doing what I'm supposed to it's still there. so yeah, I know where this comes from.
I’m a workaholic, but I work for myself; if I’m going to throw the chains on, I’d rather do it for myself
Not me taking notes ✍🏽 ✍🏽 ✍🏽
Easy answer. It’s capitalism
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In my life, I always noticed people assumed I was this type A, workaholic person. They’d rage when they realized I was only ever perfect in school and successful in any job and good with money because I spend the bulk majority of my time recreationally or even moreso, resting.
Nothing in the universe is efficient if it’s energy is depleted. Yet people think they can be.
Nobody perfect tho we all have our flaws as though our strength!
It's quite poignant that as soon as you talked about how everything needs to be monetized, including hobbies, how everything needs to be improved... you add in an ad about something that will "take the pain away", by minimizing the hassle around cooking. Capitalist nightmare indeed, because even suffering is monetized
This.
Dear Americans: just say no! No to hyper-capitalism and the constant self-improvement.
a hobby is only a hobby to me if i don't have to make money from it! keywords: Have To
rotfl, this ad provides such an interesting twist from complaining about a culture where every hobby is monetized... this product will make us free of stress otherwise needed to arrange meals ;)
Do you guys realize that it's mostly Americans who have that?
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Nah! Work to live, not live to work. You need more socialism in the US. Don’t destroy your life over a job that will drop you in a second to employ someone younger, with less experience, for less money
Video: "Toxic productivity is bad"
Also video: " We still need to pay the bills here at The Take (insert ad)"
Keep editing, your comment still doesn't make sense.
Accurate
We only have two choices if we’re being intellectually honest:
Unless we are wealthy, or have benefactors, our choices are only to hustle or have a *shi ttier* quality of life.
I say shi ttier cause working yourself to death is not ideal.
Sure, we all know people who collect welfare from the government but if you look carefully: the people collecting checks from the government often have a buttload of kids.
In other words, you don’t get to be single with no kids and be collecting checks from the government.
When you are single and you don’t work, you run out of money and get to be homeless. There are few to no benefits for you (at least in Canada 🇨🇦).
And if you have to have a lot of kids to get money then your life sucks anyway.
The only other way to get money somewhat reliably is to have disability.
But if you collect disability checks then the government is on your case all the time trying to catch you lying (At least in Canada 🇨🇦) and your life sucks in this way as well. There goes your chance to live your best life.
The best you can hope for is to win the lottery or have a job where you gotta hustle but at least one that pays really, really well.
Or you can be entrepreneur but then you hustle more than ever (at least the first few years) and now with risk of making no money but at least if you fail then you fail on your own terms.
🎵 _Cause it's a bittersweet symphony, that's life. Tryna make ends meet, you're a slave to money then you die._ 🎵
Lay flat
If you ant slaving for your own dreams than we are true slaves
You cut productivity then get angry that people being richer then you
Most of those people inherited their wealth.
@@blackdragon6Actually the majority of millionaires are first generation.
Yah I'm sorry but I'm gonna have to disagree with this one. Productivity to me is chasing my dreams, some of us start life with very few advantages and need to claw our way to the top by any means necessary if we want even the slightest chance for our lives to have an impact on the world. So if you're telling me I have to skip a week at the beach and spend a week in the office in order to secure my legacy, then so be it.
Idealisticly I'm sure this video *could be helpful. But in reality I think most people will just use this as validation and justification to be lazy and put in less effort towards their goals.
You’re just licking boots. You’re not chasing your dreams you’re giving someone else your dream while they placate you with a vacation
No one watches this video and uses it as an excuse to be lazy. That is something you made up.
If they're truly your dreams and you're willing to chase them, then it's not "toxic productivity". But if you're doing all that chasing precisely because you feel disadvantaged, like you _have_ to put in the extra work in order to be successful in the eyes of others, because you think "being on top" is how other people define success, that's toxic productivity..
Goals are flexible and differ between people. What you might call being "lazy" or "unambitious", I call having peace of mind and looking out for my own health.
Laziness doesn't exist. And if you care about your "legacy" more than the living the life you actually get when you're here, it's time to start reevaluating your values
Why not solve the Student dept crisis by telling the colleges who taught capitalism bad you just ain't gettin paid
I think I've commented this before, but this sort of thing doesn't exist in the blue collar world... especially union jobs.
I don't get it! Feminism and progressivism brought all this, and now you are complying?
wtf does feminism have to do with anything? also yeah no shit people don't like being overworked and abused tf? people deserve to be able to live their lives and not be constantly stressed bc they feel they need to be productive at all times/need to overwork themselves bc they can't pay bills otherwise
Because god forbid women have the option to work and want better working conditions as well. Besides, a lot of progressive thought actually critiques this toxic line of thought too. So what exactly are you trying to say?
Child support drstroimens work life balance and is blamed failing and both or either often when he's not one who filed the divorce
Stop complaining about being poor while complaining about toxic productivity
Stop complaining about people having other opinions from you, on the internet
And while you’re at it stop calling everything toxic
@@jenni4claire I'll stop talking when stop voting 😩
@@seebothways9630 sounds like you have too much time on your hands kiddo. You’re obviously projecting and the fact you are bringing up politics in a non political comment stream is pretty pathetic. Let me guess your whole identity revolves around your politics and that red hat cult that you belong to. Your family probably can’t stand you cuz you bring up your stupid political opinions at family gatherings. I have a couple in my family and nobody can stand you cuz their life revolves around their orange savior
Giving into toxic productivity just makes you more exploitable to the billionaires. It's not going to make you one of them. If anything, it further contributes to the gross inequality making sure that the poor stay poor, no matter how hard or how much they work. You're just reciting the propaganda you were taught to help keep you poor and easily exploitable
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