Never been in the RR line of work, but I really like trains, and I have been learning so much over the past several years, as well as just being civi now, in the area I live in there have been many train vs car incidents, and many added safety devices and level crossings have been changed, and some took years to just make them a smooth crossing. Now that I have been in to train sims on my PC, seeing all the cameras that are installed, not that they work but more for licensing to use the content, I now have a MUCH better understanding, as to why, and no amount of investigation can tell the whole story without some sort of monitoring device, and yet some countries have laws against the use of bells and horns.
I retired from my railroad career after 43 years in 2013. 34 years of that time was as a Train Dispatcher and had to deal with the consequences of handling information from the train crew on near misses and contact incidents. It also effected the dispatcher and host of others such as law enforcement, first responders, company investigators and victims families and friends. I personally handled upwards of hundreds of fatal incidents and unfortunately a few where simply self inflicted suicides.
@@ronselliers6951 Can't imagine having to carry the weight of so many lives and incidents on your consciousness, crazy how people can't even use their god given senses to watch out for themselves. I can't stand wearing headphones, I feel vulnerable whenever I'm going somewhere. As a woodworker in Croatia, I see so many injuries in the trades due to lack of focus and distraction.
The worst crossing incident i still have nightmares about is a fully loaded school bus near miss. I've hit people, cars, farm equipment, dump trucks, but this one has never left me. I miss that bus by inches at 60 mph a block away from the school it was going too. That older guy said you feel your heart in your throat, and I'm here to say that's exactly what it feels like. I'm retired 6 years now and I don't miss it. I miss the people, but not those crossings.
I dont think they should feel bad. It sounds heartless but as an engeneer there is nothing you can do. You cant brake on time, you cant go around them, and you shouldnt be responsible for other peoples lack of personal responsibility. Anytime I am out walking with my dog, I walk facing traffic, if I have to answer a text I stop, I am allways aware what is going around me.
They all know that mate, but you still feel bad when someone dies even if you don't carry the guilt with you and it's still something you're not going to soon forget.
I've always had this idea - If I am successful with my application to be a Locomotive Engineer with Kiwirail - I would definitely get behind this and push it.... hard. The idea is simple. Law Change: Locomotive blows its horn at level crossings/pedestrian crossings. Kiwirail and its' subsidiaries waive liability. All Liability.. Once the horn is sounded a law is enacted whereas, if caught, you get an instant $5000 fine. (Alternatively: Cancel offenders drivers license and enforce mandatory driver retraining.) Locomotive equipment: Onboard DVR with 3x wide-angle camera's front, left side, right side. Reporting: All near misses, unlawful entry into rail corridor during barrier arm blockade/sirens/bells = recorded footage sent to police for identification.
My friend works for BNSF and he has hit several cars mostly with teen kids in them trying to be edgy and he still feels the pain and we both agree that crossings should be safer and more protected I'm a future locomotive engineer and I feel ashamed by the idot who run gates I can't help but yell and cuss and sometimes throw rocks at them for it.
Im a future engineer too, I've seen a BNSF ES44C4 come to a complete stop on a CSX freight train in front of my home because it hit a person, I can't believe people. A friend says that it is natural selection, I call it unintentional suicide, people need to stop having tech, and start having awareness again.
Please investigate voice to skull technology as a last resort alert system for pedestrians wearing headphones. It even works with severe hearing impediments, at range - in a direct beam in front of the train (not audible outside of this beam).
you can see how fucked up that one girl is look at her gestures I witnessed a death by a car hit and run but could not imagine a train and all bc she was just doing her job damn
Meanwhile, the governments still do their best to keep level crossings safety features at the lowest costs possible, improvements are certainly made, but there's definitely better and safer features and ways, a lot of lives could be saved if costs were not more important than human lives.
I am sri lankan.can i drive a train in your country.i have the qualifications to drive a train.i am coming to your country and settling down.can i drive a train then.
Can easily see the pain that may or may not get better. My job on a bad day? Bang my thumb with a hammer, strip a thread, cut 1/16 inch too short. Swear. Move on. Forgotten tomorrow.. The scars here are deep. I would add an approaching train is remarkably quiet. Remarkably fast. Folks, "Look. Listen. Live." For everyone's sake.
I had a very close call to hit two children that was playing on the tracks, Fortunately the speed was only 60 km/h so I could stop in time. Was very shaken after that 😓😰🤭
Had a couple ideas to mitigate train deaths. Install a net or some airbag on the front that could scoop them up and let the train come to safe stop. I'm not sure how many more warnings and barriers we could put up now if people are missing the dinging bell, flashing red lights, the fold down arms, the 100 decibel train horn blaring, it's amazing to think they are so absorbed into the phones or audio they zone out on their surroundings. Maybe we need to install some device that could link to smartphones in the future to train crossings that would flash a message on screen of incoming train and play audio message in headphones.
All the ideas that you mentioned are pointless, for the net, or airbag, your doing more harm than good, 12,000,000 pounds of steel versions a 190 pound man, and you would still kill, or severely injure the person, people will ignore the phone notice, the best way to protect humans is to let them go and "gamble".
Not really, but letting them "gamble" might open their self-entitled (not saying any of us are) eyes and pull their head out of their ass. nature is cruel, and natural selection must happen.
Would be awesome if there was an invention that allowed you to use air to push things out of the way, because y'know...honking at any volume is completely pointless these days.
How do these engineers handle random rotating shift work and suddenly getting called into work with out warning and less than hours sleep. Worst part is listening to the crew coordinator angrily calling you in with more swear words than instructions on the next job. Train engineer and brake man jobs are very high stress. I think being a locomotive engineer is rough work. CN and CP are really bad for that.
What good will that do? You have 1000 tons coming at you behind that airbag, and it won't stop anytime soon. The reason an airbag will save lives in cars, is because you have your seatbelt holding you back. If you're not wearing your seatbelt, an airbag will do more harm than good.
Never been in the RR line of work, but I really like trains, and I have been learning so much over the past several years, as well as just being civi now, in the area I live in there have been many train vs car incidents, and many added safety devices and level crossings have been changed, and some took years to just make them a smooth crossing. Now that I have been in to train sims on my PC, seeing all the cameras that are installed, not that they work but more for licensing to use the content, I now have a MUCH better understanding, as to why, and no amount of investigation can tell the whole story without some sort of monitoring device, and yet some countries have laws against the use of bells and horns.
I understand ! ! ! , KNOWING IT'S NOT OUR FAULT. I CAN STILL REMEMBER MY FIRST TIME JUST LIKE IT YESTERDAY, ONLY 40 YEARS AGO
You can tell that Shelia has really been affected emotionally and psychologically. She starts fidgeting a lot when discussing it.
She is a deadbeat
You mean Yolanda?
unbelievable, 3 fatalities on that one guy, feel sorry for the guy! Crazy
I read somewhere that for a light rail operator in some U.S. city, the average fatalities for a lifetime career is 5.
Unbelievable. crazy and scary how high that number is
I retired from my railroad career after 43 years in 2013. 34 years of that time was as a Train Dispatcher and had to deal with the consequences of handling information from the train crew on near misses and contact incidents. It also effected the dispatcher and host of others such as law enforcement, first responders, company investigators and victims families and friends. I personally handled upwards of hundreds of fatal incidents and unfortunately a few where simply self inflicted suicides.
@@ronselliers6951 Can't imagine having to carry the weight of so many lives and incidents on your consciousness, crazy how people can't even use their god given senses to watch out for themselves. I can't stand wearing headphones, I feel vulnerable whenever I'm going somewhere. As a woodworker in Croatia, I see so many injuries in the trades due to lack of focus and distraction.
The worst crossing incident i still have nightmares about is a fully loaded school bus near miss. I've hit people, cars, farm equipment, dump trucks, but this one has never left me. I miss that bus by inches at 60 mph a block away from the school it was going too. That older guy said you feel your heart in your throat, and I'm here to say that's exactly what it feels like. I'm retired 6 years now and I don't miss it. I miss the people, but not those crossings.
I dont think they should feel bad. It sounds heartless but as an engeneer there is nothing you can do. You cant brake on time, you cant go around them, and you shouldnt be responsible for other peoples lack of personal responsibility. Anytime I am out walking with my dog, I walk facing traffic, if I have to answer a text I stop, I am allways aware what is going around me.
They all know that mate, but you still feel bad when someone dies even if you don't carry the guilt with you and it's still something you're not going to soon forget.
I really want to be a locomotive engineer, and this is the only challenge I don’t think you can prepare for.
This video should have more views, I'll do what I can to spread it.
Even on Infowars?
Very tough dealing with those situations. Best of luck to them.
The engineer's worst nightmare. I don't know how they are able to return to the controls. I'm not sure I could.
one week off for hitting someone two if you kill them, Darwinism at its best
I've always had this idea - If I am successful with my application to be a Locomotive Engineer with Kiwirail - I would definitely get behind this and push it.... hard.
The idea is simple.
Law Change: Locomotive blows its horn at level crossings/pedestrian crossings. Kiwirail and its' subsidiaries waive liability. All Liability.. Once the horn is sounded a law is enacted whereas, if caught, you get an instant $5000 fine. (Alternatively: Cancel offenders drivers license and enforce mandatory driver retraining.)
Locomotive equipment: Onboard DVR with 3x wide-angle camera's front, left side, right side.
Reporting: All near misses, unlawful entry into rail corridor during barrier arm blockade/sirens/bells = recorded footage sent to police for identification.
My friend works for BNSF and he has hit several cars mostly with teen kids in them trying to be edgy and he still feels the pain and we both agree that crossings should be safer and more protected
I'm a future locomotive engineer and I feel ashamed by the idot who run gates I can't help but yell and cuss and sometimes throw rocks at them for it.
Im a future engineer too, I've seen a BNSF ES44C4 come to a complete stop on a CSX freight train in front of my home because it hit a person, I can't believe people. A friend says that it is natural selection, I call it unintentional suicide, people need to stop having tech, and start having awareness again.
We must do a lot more to provide more new tough regulations for every railway systems. Especially to prevent future disaster.
Please investigate voice to skull technology as a last resort alert system for pedestrians wearing headphones. It even works with severe hearing impediments, at range - in a direct beam in front of the train (not audible outside of this beam).
Put in hundreds of millions in some magical technology so that idiots who deserve to die, don't die? Nah fam.
Or people could just pay fucking attention how hard can it be
Right, or just take off the ear buds and look after yourself around the tracks.
What the hell does this have to do with the subject? edgy kids shouldnt have internet
nice video
Sir Topham Hatt was very cross....
Very true! Great video
you can see how fucked up that one girl is look at her gestures I witnessed a death by a car hit and run but could not imagine a train and all bc she was just doing her job damn
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I believe that NS (Norfolk Southern) comes right out with saying the fact that you might kill 4-5 people in your career.
Meanwhile, the governments still do their best to keep level crossings safety features at the lowest costs possible, improvements are certainly made, but there's definitely better and safer features and ways, a lot of lives could be saved if costs were not more important than human lives.
I am sri lankan.can i drive a train in your country.i have the qualifications to drive a train.i am coming to your country and settling down.can i drive a train then.
Oh so in Australia the engineer is the only crew member on board a freight train?
Also in Norway.
FYI: All locomotive engineers filmed are employed by Kiwirail. Only New Zealand drivers were filmed.
Do dl engines only do cargo
I tried to get a job on NZ rail in the 80's I was not successful because not brown enough, come to Australia job in 2 weeks
Lol 😅😅😅😅 wtf. Oh well that sucks for you mate
Times have changed now tho. Kiwirail has a lot of diversity within its employees
Can easily see the pain that may or may not get better. My job on a bad day? Bang my thumb with a hammer, strip a thread, cut 1/16 inch too short. Swear. Move on. Forgotten tomorrow.. The scars here are deep. I would add an approaching train is remarkably quiet. Remarkably fast. Folks, "Look. Listen. Live." For everyone's sake.
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This is the reason I don't think I could ever drive a train .
I had a very close call to hit two children that was playing on the tracks, Fortunately the speed was only 60 km/h so I could stop in time. Was very shaken after that 😓😰🤭
Had a couple ideas to mitigate train deaths. Install a net or some airbag on the front that could scoop them up and let the train come to safe stop. I'm not sure how many more warnings and barriers we could put up now if people are missing the dinging bell, flashing red lights, the fold down arms, the 100 decibel train horn blaring, it's amazing to think they are so absorbed into the phones or audio they zone out on their surroundings. Maybe we need to install some device that could link to smartphones in the future to train crossings that would flash a message on screen of incoming train and play audio message in headphones.
All the ideas that you mentioned are pointless, for the net, or airbag, your doing more harm than good, 12,000,000 pounds of steel versions a 190 pound man, and you would still kill, or severely injure the person, people will ignore the phone notice, the best way to protect humans is to let them go and "gamble".
@@BattleshipOrion You sound like someone who enjoys people dying by train.
Not really, but letting them "gamble" might open their self-entitled (not saying any of us are) eyes and pull their head out of their ass. nature is cruel, and natural selection must happen.
Kiss your family and tell them you'll see them in about 30 years!
Would be awesome if there was an invention that allowed you to use air to push things out of the way, because y'know...honking at any volume is completely pointless these days.
Lol a shot of air strong enough to push someone out of the way would probably do just as damage as the train would have
i can just imagine someone standing there on their phone then blasted into the fence
that might be possible good idea
Better to be blasted into a deep ditch by air that to be hit by a train no questions.
How do these engineers handle random rotating shift work and suddenly getting called into work with out warning and less than hours sleep. Worst part is listening to the crew coordinator angrily calling you in with more swear words than instructions on the next job. Train engineer and brake man jobs are very high stress. I think being a locomotive engineer is rough work. CN and CP are really bad for that.
29 fatal accidents on the track in one month (Belgium).
It's easy to blame others man.....
Why can't they stop again?
They can't it's working of train 🚄
Trains require a tremendous amount of distance to stop - typically a mile or more.
A train going 50 mph at 15k tons turns into a 30 million pound missile. That’s why they can’t stop until it’s too late.
why not install huge airbags, it will be activated by the train operator.
What good will that do? You have 1000 tons coming at you behind that airbag, and it won't stop anytime soon. The reason an airbag will save lives in cars, is because you have your seatbelt holding you back. If you're not wearing your seatbelt, an airbag will do more harm than good.
I agree, you have to be a special kind of stupid to die like that
Maybe a big deployable net... wait did I just come up with an invention 🤔 haha
@YexaC I agree.
No, they should just go on with their life. People were it because they didn't pay attention. The could not took it personal.
Easier said than done. Usually the train crew has to go and examine the victim, or otherwise at the least sees the mess
Yeah track staff get called out. Thankfully I haven’t been to anything like that but a lot of my workmates have. It would not be nice