Richter is a pure musical sensation and I think that goes straight into the kind of person he was. His autehnticity is obvious in his playing and that is wihtout any question what gives his interpretation the true character that we hear.
one can argue ad nauseam about great pianist and performances - until you actually start listening to Richter - and then you can't help it, you get swept, overwhelmed, taken over. The hypnotic quality of his play is unrivaled
This is finally a tempo that works for the movement! Those, how have played this already, know that the phrasing of the theme just works in this speed. And the second and third movement... he just interprets the score into music, so I can understand every moment!
That´s a great performance of this Sonata. I think that Richter is one of the greatest pianist I´ve ever heard. However, the best interpreter of this sonata is ANNIE FISCHER. Thanks for posting.
Richter like most great (legendary) pianists was an original.... he was a friend of Rubinstein and admired his playing. Horowitz was essentially a miniaturist despite his incredible virtuosity. Horowitz did not have a public repertory that was the equal of Richter or Rubinstein both of whom really did have a huge range of music that they played b4 the public. Both Rubinstein and Richter had photographic memories. Horowitz 's Rach 3 and Tch 1st & some Schumann recordings were legendary 4 sure.
I don't think anyone here is allowed to criticize Richter's playing in any way, because then they wouldn't be on RUclips, they would be practicing. Richter is a genius.
I never write any comments, because usualy I agree with others people opinions. I mean with the opinions expressed here. I like Richter's version very much, but I like the others too. How do you compare greatness with greatness?
grazie! Sono nata a Milano,Arrau mi pare ha studiato con un alunno di Beethoven--o uno in linea diretta.Lipatti e' una vera rivelazione! Ti sono molto grata. Per Bach amo Richter Per Mozart , Michelangeli. Per Beethoven, Backhaus ed Arthur Schnabel. Se trovi qualcosa di bello, ti prego di segnalarmelo, se non rompo troppo. . Mi fa un piacere enorme il nostro colloquio. francesca. ps. ti piace Josef Hoffmann?
richter is arguably the most accomplished piano player of the last century. he can play bach, beethoven, chopin and also rachmaninov and shostakovich. i haven't listened to anyone who can play all of them properly and with such a brilliance.
@@4Topwood Rightly so! It is a known fact that Richter had a special propensity towards Schubert's music. Just pulled a few names out of a hat to point out his incredible easiness of working wonders with styles of music worlds apart.
Thank you. I agree about Michelangeli. (Horowitz was implied, when I asked "who are the other 3?") I only know Busoni from his Bach transcriptions and never heard Lipatti. Are there recordings? obviously none of Chopin or Liszt... If we go there then we have to add Mozart. Thanks for your reply. I'm fond of Claudio Arrau and Glenn Gould...
@francescaemc2: in my opinion ( count out Listz and Chopin) they were: Ferruccio Busoni, Dinu Lipatti, Horowitz e Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli. There are many other great pianists but for me they are the best!
I think this tempo is fine :p this way the whole mvt is kind of sparkling; Richter was a genius, picking unusual tempos yet making them work better than ever.
Ho capito che sei italiana o che parli benissimo italiano. Arrau è strepitoso per la 111 di Beethoven e non solo e Gould è l'interprete che preferisco per Bach; comunque, per quanto non ortodosso, Gulda ha eseguito alcuni pezzi di Bach in maniera impeccabile. Lipatti invece era un genio puro. La sua timbrica è irripetibile; purtroppo è scomparso a 33 anni. Ascolta la Corale Ich Ruf' Zu Dir, Herr Jesu Christ è fantastica. Complimenti sei una grande intenditrice!
Annie Fischer is a great pianist and her version of Pathetique is very good. I think however that Richter´s is even better, his power and rythmic energy is incomparable. That´s my opinion, others are entitled to their own of course.
I felt that you piano enthusiasts deserve a proper recording of this well known sonata, so you can compare with Goulds´s version etc. Feel free to comment! In my wiew the best version recorded, right tempo, excellent balance right/left hand (as always with Richter) etc.
@AkaMouTinn I think it is obvious for everybody who listens to classical piano, Richter is a genius, I wouldn't argue that. You can analyse all you want though, music is art, not math.. and certainly not a contest. So it's useless to argue so&so is the best, taste has no objective value My point is, different geniuses have different qualities, the one you're attracted to is not 'the best' (don't fool yourself!), but the one most compatible with how you're brain has developed musically..
@frogmanpiano How can you say that Richter had a photographic memory when he suffered from memory slips? Now Gould I can believe had one. But how do you come to believe it true of Richter?
I can't think that somebody compare Richter with Gould . They are in different categories. Eventually in the final only matters his vast repertoire vs. Bach and some Beethoven. When I see Gould with Chopin, Rach, Scriabin i can talk about him.
And take this Pathetique for example. Surely Richter has impeccable technique. The problem is that he couldn't express the taste that Backhaus or Schnabel express.
have measured, the first rep in Allegro Richter playes at 1.28 and Gould at 1.19 approx. In my opinion Richter´s tempo is ideal, and it is so much better played. But it would be a dreary world if everyone agreed.
Is photographic memory a comment on the type of memory not just the quality of it? (seeing the score in your mind as you play) He at one stage played all by memory, and later used the score to play from - due to natural old age decline or because he wanted to play more pieces in a shorter period of time. At one stage in his life he may have had a phenomenal memory and then things could have changed. What is being said here doesn't take this possible change into account.
В определённый момент истории австрийцы были лучшими классическими музыкантами.А до этого - итальянцы Я просто называю факты. И я не знаю народа,которая так любила бы заниматься самоедством и самокритикой,часто безпочвенной,как русские. И твои слова - тому пример.
Comparing great pianist isn't very useful and a kind of silly if you ask me.. They all have their own uniqueness To say Gould did Bach and some Beethoven is ignorant, the man recorded works from lots of composers..
Завидуют всегда одному - успеху. Кстати, вот любопытно, почему-то люди, когда их поймают на зависти и им это в лицо скажут, сразу начинают изображаь смех? Причём даже в письменном виде!
I like Gould. But to say that he is on the level to richter ist unfair to richter. Only looking on repertoire, while gould repertoire was a small one, richter's was huge and so different. I think for the history of music youtube made justice for richter. West thought that gould, horowitz, arrau hofman and others were the superior instance.
Beethoven a dit : ils jouent tellement vite que je ne reconnait plus ma musique. richter est parmis les meilleurs mais la il joue un peu trop vite.... dommage...
Togda izbegai fraz tipa "na planete", "vo vsem mire"... Samokritiki net davno v Rossii, ischezla vmeste s sovetskoi intelligentsiei. Est' odna obida i zhelanie "dognat' i peregnat' ves' mir".
@AkaMouTinn I respectfully disagree with you and Aristotle (overrated in many ways) and relativity is certainly not a part of me...(no i'm not fooling myself, trust me) Richter was his own man and did not listen much to other pianists, certainly not in his younger days. Richter is the best in your mind and you are free to say so. There is no best for me, although Gould comes close :) I guess we have a different mind set regarding art and music. One not better then the other, again :))..
You're wrong. Listen to Beethoven's Waldstein sonata, performed by Barenboim. He's GREAT. But, certainly, he's not better than RICHTER. RICHTER IS GOD.
The shock when hearing these tresaury recordings of richter produced some envy because all musical values was broken. I think that gould's bach was superior to any other pianist but even if you considere vulgar you have to say that is a little to small to compare to richter.
Это тебя давно нет в России, а не самокритики. Желание обогнать и перегнать весь мир родилось в СССР и вместе с ним и умерло. Почему нельзя сказать, что кому-то в чём-то когда-то принадлежало первенство во всём мире? Или пинадлежит? Видно, тебе очень завидно.
Richter is a great pianist yes. And surely he's the best interpreter of Russian music. But he is not the best at Beethoven, Bach, or Chopin. There are better pianists out there to interpret the three composers' works.
Видеоклипы
Richter is out of reach unpredictable ,passion ,catched the soul of every piece,unique man
музыка, мощь, мысль, мудрость, техника, точность - все есть в нем. великий!
Richter puts all his energy and drive to serve the music- he does it brilliantly here.
Extraordinary ~ definitely beautiful, the Best performance!
Richter is a pure musical sensation and I think that goes straight into the kind of person he was. His autehnticity is obvious in his playing and that is wihtout any question what gives his interpretation the true character that we hear.
one can argue ad nauseam about great pianist and performances - until you actually start listening to Richter - and then you can't help it, you get swept, overwhelmed, taken over. The hypnotic quality of his play is unrivaled
Sviatoslav Richter the genius.
Richter is my favourite pianist.
Wonderful like the heaven!!
I find myself coming back to hear Richter play the Pathétique at least once a week. It is superb.
Alfred Brendel does a superb interpretation, too.
This is finally a tempo that works for the movement!
Those, how have played this already, know that the phrasing of the theme just works in this speed.
And the second and third movement... he just interprets the score into music, so I can understand every moment!
the best
Brillant!
awesome.
How could no one have commented on this masterful interpretation yet?
Everybody good this wonderful music really pleasant to hear performance's attagirl
Speechless!!! We are in front of a pure genius!!!!
That´s a great performance of this Sonata. I think that Richter is one of the greatest pianist I´ve ever heard. However, the best interpreter of this sonata is ANNIE FISCHER. Thanks for posting.
He's the best on the Pathetique I've ever heard.
Richter like most great (legendary) pianists was an original.... he was a friend of Rubinstein and admired his playing. Horowitz was essentially a miniaturist despite his incredible virtuosity. Horowitz did not have a public repertory that was the equal of Richter or Rubinstein both of whom really did have a huge range of music that they played b4 the public. Both Rubinstein and Richter had photographic memories. Horowitz 's Rach 3 and Tch 1st & some Schumann recordings were legendary 4 sure.
se morceau est vraiment merveilleux, respect à son rend de roi du pianot
What to me, personally, Richter brings forth, is an impeccably clean and brilliant fire, which is what Beethoven epitomizes to me.
I completely agree!
I don't think anyone here is allowed to criticize Richter's playing in any way, because then they wouldn't be on RUclips, they would be practicing. Richter is a genius.
Your english is excellent
Drei Tulpe und Richter..... Richter und seine drei Tulpe.....das meist schönste Bild von Ihm
Richter:Beethoven, musiciens des grandes passions...
Grazie. vado subito a cercare su you tube.
a presto.
francesca
@iguarni I totally agree. Benjamin Britten called him 'the best pianist ever'!
I repeat!!! We're in front of one of the best five pianists ever!!!!
Lazar Berman: Rach 3 Cadenza Ossia e gli Studi di Esecuzione Trascendentale di Listz assolutamente sconvolgenti!
I never write any comments, because usualy I agree with others people opinions. I mean with the opinions expressed here.
I like Richter's version very much, but I like the others too. How do you compare greatness with greatness?
grazie! Sono nata a Milano,Arrau mi pare ha studiato con un alunno di Beethoven--o uno in linea diretta.Lipatti e' una vera rivelazione! Ti sono molto grata. Per Bach amo Richter
Per Mozart , Michelangeli.
Per Beethoven, Backhaus ed Arthur Schnabel. Se trovi qualcosa di bello, ti prego di segnalarmelo, se non rompo troppo.
. Mi fa un piacere enorme il nostro colloquio. francesca.
ps. ti piace Josef Hoffmann?
richter is arguably the most accomplished piano player of the last century. he can play bach, beethoven, chopin and also rachmaninov and shostakovich. i haven't listened to anyone who can play all of them properly and with such a brilliance.
Don't forget Richter's brilliant interpretations of Schubert.
@@4Topwood Rightly so! It is a known fact that Richter had a special propensity towards Schubert's music. Just pulled a few names out of a hat to point out his incredible easiness of working wonders with styles of music worlds apart.
Thank you. I agree about Michelangeli. (Horowitz was implied, when I asked "who are the other 3?")
I only know Busoni from his Bach transcriptions and never heard Lipatti. Are there recordings?
obviously none of Chopin or Liszt... If we go there then we have to add Mozart. Thanks for your reply.
I'm fond of Claudio Arrau and Glenn Gould...
@Heightofhate Это рефлекс , который покрывает рыдания...от сознания "КАК ДАЛЁК же я ... от этого..."
@francescaemc2: in my opinion ( count out Listz and Chopin) they were: Ferruccio Busoni, Dinu Lipatti, Horowitz e Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli. There are many other great pianists but for me they are the best!
Fastest Pathetique Mvt. 1 ever heard
I think this tempo is fine :p this way the whole mvt is kind of sparkling; Richter was a genius, picking unusual tempos yet making them work better than ever.
It's really fast, but he played this piece so well!
Beehtoven him self
Ho capito che sei italiana o che parli benissimo italiano. Arrau è strepitoso per la 111 di Beethoven e non solo e Gould è l'interprete che preferisco per Bach; comunque, per quanto non ortodosso, Gulda ha eseguito alcuni pezzi di Bach in maniera impeccabile. Lipatti invece era un genio puro. La sua timbrica è irripetibile; purtroppo è scomparso a 33 anni. Ascolta la Corale Ich Ruf' Zu Dir, Herr Jesu Christ è fantastica. Complimenti sei una grande intenditrice!
Annie Fischer is a great pianist and her version of Pathetique is very good. I think however that Richter´s is even better, his power and rythmic energy is incomparable. That´s my opinion, others are entitled to their own of course.
3:30 WOW ! RICHTER SMOKING !?!? Didn't affected on talent of genius anyway.
Brilliant , Powerful, Stunning, Theatrical, Magnificent ,Unparalleled, Classy Master .. as usual !
If you think this is fast, just listen to Glenn Gould´s version - also here on YT.
I felt that you piano enthusiasts deserve a proper recording of this well known sonata, so you can compare with Goulds´s version etc. Feel free to comment!
In my wiew the best version recorded, right tempo, excellent balance right/left hand (as always with Richter) etc.
omg, richter smokes :D
Don't make a joke out of Barenboim, But I truly agree that Richter is 1000 times better.
totally.
@iguarni
Chi sono gli altri tre? Secono a Lei?
I agree with you. We can't compare Richter with Gould. They are in other sphere.
This is really wonderful!!!
(and screw the tempi fetish BS)
@AkaMouTinn
I think it is obvious for everybody who listens to classical piano, Richter is a genius, I wouldn't argue that.
You can analyse all you want though, music is art, not math.. and certainly not a contest.
So it's useless to argue so&so is the best, taste has no objective value
My point is, different geniuses have different qualities, the one you're attracted to is not 'the best' (don't fool yourself!), but the one most compatible with how you're brain has developed musically..
What album is this in? I can not find it anywhere.
@Danamaria68 mmm.... so??
@frogmanpiano
How can you say that Richter had a photographic memory when he suffered from memory slips?
Now Gould I can believe had one.
But how do you come to believe it true of Richter?
I can't think that somebody compare Richter with Gould . They are in different categories. Eventually in the final only matters his vast repertoire vs. Bach and some Beethoven. When I see Gould with Chopin, Rach, Scriabin i can talk about him.
I am only messing around ;D But yes, I do know how to play it.. (Not with any full emotion) but I am getting there :P
at 5:43 there seems to be a delay. Is that kosher with the composition?
It seemed like he slowed slightly to emphasize the start of the next passage, don't believe it's marked anywhere.
And take this Pathetique for example. Surely Richter has impeccable technique. The problem is that he couldn't express the taste that Backhaus or Schnabel express.
Yes!!!!!beat the damn piano
What mistakes?
have measured, the first rep in Allegro Richter playes at 1.28 and Gould at 1.19 approx.
In my opinion Richter´s tempo is ideal, and it is so much better played. But it would be a dreary world if everyone agreed.
I prefer Arrau or even better: Brendel. But Richter is terrific.
Well what else are you supposed to treat it as?
Is photographic memory a comment on the type of memory not just the quality of it? (seeing the score in your mind as you play) He at one stage played all by memory, and later used the score to play from - due to natural old age decline or because he wanted to play more pieces in a shorter period of time. At one stage in his life he may have had a phenomenal memory and then things could have changed. What is being said here doesn't take this possible change into account.
@Heightofhate
da e niet....
В определённый момент истории русские стали лучшими классическими музыкантами на планете.
Русские и до сих пор ими остаются.
Rixter yazmağa söz tapa bilmirəm
3:30 Nice non-piano related photo lol
@plasticeric And in return he played Rachmaninoff at her funeral ahahahah
Is he smoking 2 cigarettes at the same time? That's awesome.
Richter plays this work very characteristically. Wonder why Maria Yudina criticized: Richter? The one only knows to play Rachmanninov...
Do you mean Russia? Or England? or what?
В определённый момент истории австрийцы были лучшими классическими музыкантами.А до этого - итальянцы
Я просто называю факты.
И я не знаю народа,которая так любила бы заниматься самоедством и самокритикой,часто безпочвенной,как русские.
И твои слова - тому пример.
Barenboim is a pure joke, my dear friend.
baremboim is amazing! he plays very emotionally. he is different than richter. if you ask me i love both their playings...
Comparing great pianist isn't very useful and a kind of silly if you ask me..
They all have their own uniqueness
To say Gould did Bach and some Beethoven is ignorant, the man recorded works from lots of composers..
I agreee. Richter is better and probably the most complete pianist in century.
@Danamaria68
And he played it better.
Завидуют всегда одному - успеху.
Кстати, вот любопытно, почему-то люди, когда их поймают на зависти и им это в лицо скажут, сразу начинают изображаь смех?
Причём даже в письменном виде!
I like Gould. But to say that he is on the level to richter ist unfair to richter. Only looking on repertoire, while gould repertoire was a small one, richter's was huge and so different. I think for the history of music youtube made justice for richter. West thought that gould, horowitz, arrau hofman and others were the superior instance.
Beethoven a dit : ils jouent tellement vite que je ne reconnait plus ma musique.
richter est parmis les meilleurs mais la il joue un peu trop vite.... dommage...
My guess is Barenboim will disagree with you
Togda izbegai fraz tipa "na planete", "vo vsem mire"...
Samokritiki net davno v Rossii, ischezla vmeste s sovetskoi intelligentsiei. Est' odna obida i zhelanie "dognat' i peregnat' ves' mir".
Sviatoslav Richter in the 50's >> Parnassus. Probably.
I like hearing brendel play this but richter is better.
@AkaMouTinn
I respectfully disagree with you and Aristotle (overrated in many ways) and relativity is certainly not a part of me...(no i'm not fooling myself, trust me)
Richter was his own man and did not listen much to other pianists, certainly not in his younger days.
Richter is the best in your mind and you are free to say so. There is no best for me, although Gould comes close :)
I guess we have a different mind set regarding art and music. One not better then the other, again :))..
und später hängen sie an die Wand
Хахаха... Чему же?
He's a bit too fast, which is unfortunate because every other pianist sounds even more boring after him :D
Niet e da...
You're wrong. Listen to Beethoven's Waldstein sonata, performed by Barenboim. He's GREAT. But, certainly, he's not better than RICHTER. RICHTER IS GOD.
The shock when hearing these tresaury recordings of richter produced some envy because all musical values was broken. I think that gould's bach was superior to any other pianist but even if you considere vulgar you have to say that is a little to small to compare to richter.
Richter and Gould where two totally different pianists, comparing them is kind of useless
Yes, they are in different categories: Richtere is incommensurably better a pianist than the nutty canadian
Это тебя давно нет в России, а не самокритики.
Желание обогнать и перегнать весь мир родилось в СССР и вместе с ним и умерло.
Почему нельзя сказать, что кому-то в чём-то когда-то принадлежало первенство во всём мире? Или пинадлежит?
Видно, тебе очень завидно.
Flippant.
Richter is a great pianist yes. And surely he's the best interpreter of Russian music. But he is not the best at Beethoven, Bach, or Chopin. There are better pianists out there to interpret the three composers' works.