I love the chaotic DIY style of this video! Loved seeing all the pens these inserts could work with. For the zebra, i wonder if you could just file down the end of the refill a little to make it fit? Very fun video though!
@@maxlvledc i just spent an hour going through this same dilemma before I watched this video 🤣 it was so tempting, but ultimately I didn’t want to risk going too far
The Uni SXR 200-07 refills write so smoothly in the Aviator B3. I've really gotten away from Fisher space pens for EDC. It's nice to have one as a back up if and when conditions warrant, but I don't enjoy writing with them for normal daily use.
I was hoping there was a way to put a refill into the write in the rain pokka pen. Thanks for mangling yours so I didn’t have to mangle mine! A nice extension to this video would be to include pens that work with the fisher Parker-style refill (modified if necessary).
I finally got around to getting one of these universal refills, and it does fit into a Zebra T3 but you need to widen the hole in the nosecap (I just used the reamer on my SAK) as the seam between the nib and the refill body is closer to the tip than the standard Zebra D1 refill
Hi Dominic! Please note that you do not need to modify the insert with electrician tape for Fenix T6! The little black piece of plastic that sits on the top of the original Schmidt insert is removable and will fit perfectly onto the Fisher space pen refill. Thank you for this video. I bought Fenix T6 but was a bit disappointed with its original ink. I did not like the black color and while writing, the pen often skipped due to an improper continuous flow of ink. I did not think about fisher universal refill. Now thanks to your idea, I upgraded my T6 and it works perfectly!
while not related but there is a company in Japan called UNUS Product Service thats making a bunch of adaptors for other pen brands that can accept a D3 refill, amongst others are Uni Jetstream multi pen refills and Style Fit refills for Lamy this opens a GIANT door of possiblities if the Fisher Space pen refill for multi pens is a D3 dimention refill and has the same possible length as the Uni SXR-89 refill adapts are as follow MB RB and BP Lamy RB (this one can accept Uni Stylefit refills) and BP Sheafer Waterman Parker Caran D Ache Pilot Frixion Zebra Blen
I've been EDCing that Zebra pen for a couple years now. I just wish it had a stronger pocket clip. It's not expensive to replace when it falls out though.
A while ago I thought about putting one of these universal refills into my Zebra T3 mini pen to make a micro space pen that clicks. Theoretically the D1 length would fit, but apparently not all D1 lengths are the same diameter between manufacturers. Would you be able you test it if you have a Zebra T3? Other mini pens like the Ohto Minimo and Pilot Birdy also use a D1 insert, as well as the Kaweco Sport pen. There's not much info online about these Fisher inserts so I really appreciate you doing this video. Kinda disappointed it didn't fit into the Skilcraft Aviator B3, that surprised me, it would've made it extra avaiator=y to have a space pen cartridge.
Dang it! I absolutely love my B3 Aviator and have been carrying it everyday for I think like 8 years. It's got a great black and brass camo style patina on it now from the years of wear. I use it everyday as my construction work writing utensil marking wood filling out work orders and it works so well. It's twist action even has a satisfying smooth turn to lock that reminds me of using my Victorinox SAKs. F I was so hoping that the Fishers D1 refill would work in it. Honestly though I've been using standard D1 refills for years and haven't had them fail to write in any condition. I will admit I've never needed to write underwater or in space yet lol.
Oh and this was yet another entertaining vid that scratches my geek itch👍 Let us know if you get the D1 refill to work in the B3 with some modification.
Not sure he mentioned it but the standard is called D1 when he took off the extra length. My two EDC pens are Rotring 600 ballpoint and a Lamy CP1 with Atramentis Archive Ink and an EF nib.
Some companies also call them Solataire cartridges. You can get them from a lot of different manufacturers, including Lamy and Pelikan. I even bought some from Office Depot that they marketed under a generic house brand but were marked "Made in Switzerland." The ones that Zebra makes in Japan are ever so slightly thinner than any other brand I've seen, and probably would fit the adapter from the Big Idea Design Dual Side Click Mini that Max had trouble getting the shortened Fischer cartridge to slide into.
I feel that you could 3d print a range of adapters for the inserts to go into without the messiness- if you have the dimensions, would not be hard to design.
Got a hold of a "cheap clicker disposable pen that had a polyurethane barrel" with the BIC logo from a medical clinic. Project Fisher PR4 refill modifications had done. Pulled the plunger and tip cap from the 3/8 inch diameter barrel off. Now measured the internal dimensional lengths of the two easily removable OEM hardware, plus the PR4 cartridge collectively. The math was measuring the trio pieces to it's combined length. The PR4 was 5/8 inch too short for the plunger mechanism activation. Reduced the barrel with a pair of industrial grade snipers by 5/8 inches. Taken the internal lengths between the tip cap and the plunger stop from the barrel and used an old analog dipole antenna hardware (2) pieces to fill the spaces 360 degree to prevent the cartridge from unneeded shifting around inside. The PR4 fits like a match made in heaven into the smaller pole, follow by it's intended primary pole to slack up the void. The spacing of the poles and barrel had fitted without any unnecessary slacks. The weight of the pen felt more stout for this 4 1/2 inch modified pen. The clicker action with it's inside cap spring hardware seems very typical, followed with a slight heavy firmness. The pen had wrote very confidently on paper without any issues. My luck to have this free pen to work with as a project.
The thicker part of the refill in the dial side click is just a holder so it fits in the pen. Pull the insert out. Should’ve known that before you made the video, though, eh?
interesting Dom. getting off the subject, found something on Amazon. it’s kind of a clone of the bibury 16 in one which I love, but wider and heavier. it’s unfortunately named “Big Hough” 17 in one multitool. last time I looked $23 with a 40 % coupon.
You should have just used the diamond file on your Leatherman to shorten the Fisher refill for the F-701. Honrstly, though, the Fisher refills are not very good. Electrical tape gets gooey and slides. There are better options. I don't want goo and stuck take in my pen tube. For the RITR pen, you got the Fisher refill to work, but the process is not reversible, so I would put that in the No column. I'm not sure of the point of replacing a Fisher refill with another Fisher refill, anyway. RITR refills are Fisher products. Really not worth the effort, unless they improve the refills. The RITR/Pokka pen bodies are great, but the RITR/Fisher refills are terrible. No idea why D1 refills are so different.
No, that's not true. I've traveled with them for decades with no problems. They (the Fisher ones) are also certified by NASA for use on manned spacecraft at any cabin pressure, so the 3psi drop in pressure in a commercial aircraft certainly isn't going to be a problem.
At the absolute worst it will just leak. I can't see there even being the slightest risk of one exploding. (Remember, it isn't sealed pressure vessel it's designed to let the ink out in a controlled way. Even if a drop in pressure could affect it, it would just ooze ink past the ball point until the pressure equalized.)
While this is helpful, I would have preferred better preparation and/or better editing. As for EDC Pens, I have been looking for pressurized ink refills for the early generation INKA Keychain Pens that were convertible to full size pens. I failed to consider that both production of both the pens and refills would be stopped. I am not interested in futzing around with gerryrigging. I guess I stick with switching over to using both Fisher Trekker Keychain Pens and the regular Bullet Space Pens.
I literally needed this so badly for figuring out how the breaking works, this helped immensely for figuring out what refill to get
I love the chaotic DIY style of this video! Loved seeing all the pens these inserts could work with.
For the zebra, i wonder if you could just file down the end of the refill a little to make it fit?
Very fun video though!
Maybe a Dremel tool with cut off wheel...
No, because it's pressurized, it would have a messy accident
@@maxlvledc i just spent an hour going through this same dilemma before I watched this video 🤣 it was so tempting, but ultimately I didn’t want to risk going too far
The Uni SXR 200-07 refills write so smoothly in the Aviator B3. I've really gotten away from Fisher space pens for EDC. It's nice to have one as a back up if and when conditions warrant, but I don't enjoy writing with them for normal daily use.
I was hoping there was a way to put a refill into the write in the rain pokka pen. Thanks for mangling yours so I didn’t have to mangle mine! A nice extension to this video would be to include pens that work with the fisher Parker-style refill (modified if necessary).
We need this same vid but with pilot G2 inserts & sharpie S gel inserts.
I finally got around to getting one of these universal refills, and it does fit into a Zebra T3 but you need to widen the hole in the nosecap (I just used the reamer on my SAK) as the seam between the nib and the refill body is closer to the tip than the standard Zebra D1 refill
Hi Dominic! Please note that you do not need to modify the insert with electrician tape for Fenix T6! The little black piece of plastic that sits on the top of the original Schmidt insert is removable and will fit perfectly onto the Fisher space pen refill.
Thank you for this video. I bought Fenix T6 but was a bit disappointed with its original ink. I did not like the black color and while writing, the pen often skipped due to an improper continuous flow of ink. I did not think about fisher universal refill. Now thanks to your idea, I upgraded my T6 and it works perfectly!
while not related but there is a company in Japan called UNUS Product Service thats making a bunch of adaptors for other pen brands that can accept a D3 refill, amongst others are Uni Jetstream multi pen refills and Style Fit refills for Lamy
this opens a GIANT door of possiblities if the Fisher Space pen refill for multi pens is a D3 dimention refill and has the same possible length as the Uni SXR-89
refill adapts are as follow
MB RB and BP
Lamy RB (this one can accept Uni Stylefit refills) and BP
Sheafer
Waterman
Parker
Caran D Ache
Pilot Frixion
Zebra Blen
I've been EDCing that Zebra pen for a couple years now. I just wish it had a stronger pocket clip. It's not expensive to replace when it falls out though.
A while ago I thought about putting one of these universal refills into my Zebra T3 mini pen to make a micro space pen that clicks. Theoretically the D1 length would fit, but apparently not all D1 lengths are the same diameter between manufacturers. Would you be able you test it if you have a Zebra T3? Other mini pens like the Ohto Minimo and Pilot Birdy also use a D1 insert, as well as the Kaweco Sport pen. There's not much info online about these Fisher inserts so I really appreciate you doing this video. Kinda disappointed it didn't fit into the Skilcraft Aviator B3, that surprised me, it would've made it extra avaiator=y to have a space pen cartridge.
as far as the Olight Open and mini they take the 8126 mini refill.
Dang it! I absolutely love my B3 Aviator and have been carrying it everyday for I think like 8 years. It's got a great black and brass camo style patina on it now from the years of wear. I use it everyday as my construction work writing utensil marking wood filling out work orders and it works so well. It's twist action even has a satisfying smooth turn to lock that reminds me of using my Victorinox SAKs. F I was so hoping that the Fishers D1 refill would work in it. Honestly though I've been using standard D1 refills for years and haven't had them fail to write in any condition. I will admit I've never needed to write underwater or in space yet lol.
Construction....IN SPAAAAACCCEEE!
Sick,I have the Fenix T6. U think the plight o’pen pro will work? And what’s the specific fisher insert you’re using?
Oh and this was yet another entertaining vid that scratches my geek itch👍 Let us know if you get the D1 refill to work in the B3 with some modification.
I MUST! It's in my top 5 favorite pens
You sir, are onto something!
The best pen insert is the pilot precise v5 hands down
This one is the "land of broken pieces." Love discursive videos. Fun.
Not sure he mentioned it but the standard is called D1 when he took off the extra length. My two EDC pens are Rotring 600 ballpoint and a Lamy CP1 with Atramentis Archive Ink and an EF nib.
Some companies also call them Solataire cartridges. You can get them from a lot of different manufacturers, including Lamy and Pelikan. I even bought some from Office Depot that they marketed under a generic house brand but were marked "Made in Switzerland." The ones that Zebra makes in Japan are ever so slightly thinner than any other brand I've seen, and probably would fit the adapter from the Big Idea Design Dual Side Click Mini that Max had trouble getting the shortened Fischer cartridge to slide into.
I have a question regarding the flissa multitool did you find out if the leatherman replacement blades where compatible with the flissa?
They are not
Great info!
Would this fit into a Victorinox Plus scale?
Hmm. Maybe?
The one for the plus scales is actually cheaper than this lol
I just wondered because I hate the blue ink that comes as standard! Haven’t been able to find a black ink replacement anywhere!
I feel that you could 3d print a range of adapters for the inserts to go into without the messiness- if you have the dimensions, would not be hard to design.
It's even easier to just mod. No need for an expensive fix
@@maxlvledc agreed with the ones where the electrical tape works, some of the ones you rejected $0.20 of plastic may make it easy.
@@Terabell except it's not .20, it's $4 minimum. Because of shipping
Got a hold of a "cheap clicker disposable pen that had a polyurethane barrel" with the BIC logo from a medical clinic.
Project Fisher PR4 refill modifications had done. Pulled the plunger and tip cap from the 3/8 inch diameter barrel off. Now measured the internal dimensional lengths of the two easily removable OEM hardware, plus the PR4 cartridge collectively. The math was measuring the trio pieces to it's combined length. The PR4 was 5/8 inch too short for the plunger mechanism activation. Reduced the barrel with a pair of industrial grade snipers by 5/8 inches.
Taken the internal lengths between the tip cap and the plunger stop from the barrel and used an old analog dipole antenna hardware (2) pieces to fill the spaces 360 degree to prevent the cartridge from unneeded shifting around inside. The PR4 fits like a match made in heaven into the smaller pole, follow by it's intended primary pole to slack up the void. The spacing of the poles and barrel had fitted without any unnecessary slacks. The weight of the pen felt more stout for this 4 1/2 inch modified pen. The clicker action with it's inside cap spring hardware seems very typical, followed with a slight heavy firmness. The pen had wrote very confidently on paper without any issues. My luck to have this free pen to work with as a project.
The thicker part of the refill in the dial side click is just a holder so it fits in the pen. Pull the insert out. Should’ve known that before you made the video, though, eh?
interesting Dom. getting off the subject, found something on Amazon. it’s kind of a clone of the bibury 16 in one which I love, but wider and heavier. it’s unfortunately named “Big Hough” 17 in one multitool. last time I looked $23 with a 40 % coupon.
you need a small grinder and a caliper.
Very disapointing that these "Universal" inserts don't seem to fit anything......without mods......
NO to less organic. I would use hot glue then shape it w a scalpel, lastly reinforce it w CA glue, rock solid 👍
You should have just used the diamond file on your Leatherman to shorten the Fisher refill for the F-701. Honrstly, though, the Fisher refills are not very good.
Electrical tape gets gooey and slides. There are better options. I don't want goo and stuck take in my pen tube.
For the RITR pen, you got the Fisher refill to work, but the process is not reversible, so I would put that in the No column. I'm not sure of the point of replacing a Fisher refill with another Fisher refill, anyway. RITR refills are Fisher products. Really not worth the effort, unless they improve the refills. The RITR/Pokka pen bodies are great, but the RITR/Fisher refills are terrible.
No idea why D1 refills are so different.
Is it true a pressurized pen can't be taken on airplane due to possibility of exploding?
No, that's not true. I've traveled with them for decades with no problems. They (the Fisher ones) are also certified by NASA for use on manned spacecraft at any cabin pressure, so the 3psi drop in pressure in a commercial aircraft certainly isn't going to be a problem.
At the absolute worst it will just leak. I can't see there even being the slightest risk of one exploding.
(Remember, it isn't sealed pressure vessel it's designed to let the ink out in a controlled way. Even if a drop in pressure could affect it, it would just ooze ink past the ball point until the pressure equalized.)
While this is helpful, I would have preferred better preparation and/or better editing.
As for EDC Pens,
I have been looking for pressurized ink refills for the early generation INKA Keychain Pens that were convertible to full size pens. I failed to consider that both production of both the pens and refills would be stopped.
I am not interested in futzing around with gerryrigging.
I guess I stick with switching over to using both Fisher Trekker Keychain Pens and the regular Bullet Space Pens.
Damn you Olight.
I did see an insert to make it compatible with the original fishers.