I have some concerns about Arena Breakout: Infinite...
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- Arena Breakout Infinite has some things we need to clarify before it comes out to the masses.
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Free to play always means excessive monetization. I’m skeptical until proven otherwise.
Like me.
Is they claim pay for looks/convenience BUT WE WILL SEE lol. I also remain skeptical
@@fubarexress6359 pay for secure case. Battle pass, buying bundles. Supposedly p2w melee.
Their mobile game is a hit
@@fubarexress6359 if its only cosmetic stuff i wont be mad but it wont be
went from "enough to say fuck tarkov forever" to "i have some concerns"
Companies be taken us on emotional rides lately, Helldivers II was the biggest one for me.
@@SirMcMuffinwhat happened to helldivers
@@rickfastly2671 Sony sold the game with no region restrictions or PSN account requirement. Several months after launch when the game was bringing in a lot of players, Sony decided to region lock the game, preventing people who paid for it initially in those region from playing and they started to roll out PSN linking requirements. Imo I wouldn't have minded the linking requirement if Sony didn't get its data stolen every god damn year.
I guess this is separate from the base game of Tarkov.
Remember everyone, streamers and YT content creators are an excite able bunch that have a vested financial interest in hopping on to the next hottest thing as fast as possible with little room for skepticism. Do not spend your money based off of just a youtuber or streamer.
Even though I didn't get access to the PC test, the mobile version of Arean Breakout is still quite enjoyable. At least I don't have to spend $250.
Trying out a free-to-play game comes with no loss, so why not give it a shot?
Mabey worried about the rootkit kernel anti cheat?
Let me get my tin foil hat
@@realstasis You're mocking it as wild conspiracy theory, but that's literally what happens with Valorant though. The truth is even more tinfoil hat with that game, it's a rootkit kernel level anti-cheat...beholden to data sharing with the Chinese Communist Party
@@Victorgreat4
I hope you don't have Helldivers 2 then.
@@ninochaosdrache3189 I don’t! Good comment 💪
After playing for a while today, I feel that Arena Breakout Infinite has the potential to surpass EFT someday, at least it won't take 7 years of testing.
I do agree, they just need to tinker with how they make money like the "cases", and fix a couple bugs and optimization for lower end pc's. If they can pull that off tarkov will have crazy competition
Yeah too bad it’s pay to win. With monthly subscription. And they’re not gonna add all those features Tarkov has. People don’t realize how unique BSG as a studio was, sticking to their game with a 1 time payment for 7 years of service updates and game leading mechanics. I mean they did these things in 2017. Why are games 7 year later subpar and being accepted by the community. Makes zero sense. Seems like people don’t truly understand video game development processing
@@JustJulianMusic monthly subscription is justifiable. You get a free polished game and pay for premium stuffs. Every weapon and armor in game is free you basically don't even have to pay unless you want cosmetics or supporting the devs.
@@JustJulianMusic”one time payment” of $250 lil bro😂. How a game can be tested for 7 years and make ZERO progress forward is what’s baffling to me. Audio still doesn’t work. The game still runs horribly (funny because grayzone runs better than tarkov for me). Seems to me that you’re the one who doesn’t understand game dev. Why you are meat riding tarkov is unknowable to me. That game makes no progress ever. They put more work into the new “unheard edition” than they ever did into their actual performance or game fixes
@@eliteghost0001 have fun with your tencent game. Not riding just stating facts. I’ve only spent 150 so idk what you’re yapping about and plus you’re just like everyone else trying to use belittling words to make yourself feel big. Must be 19 years old. Come with some real facts then we can talk. Saying Tarkov hasn’t progressed in 7 years when these clones don’t even have mechanics implemented that work flawlessly in Tarkov. And bruh it’s 2024 these games are shit. They ain’t doing nothing Tarkov did and nothing more than Tarkov did back in 2017. Talk about riding Tarkov. None these games can even be played with out Tarkov being mentioned…
Today's experience with "Arena Breakout Infinite" was fantastic. The server latency is low, the matchmaking speed is fast, and there's no lag while playing.
are you even a real person?
@@dusanvukobratovic7659 God damn it, of course I'm real.
p2w and micro transactions will end up being the death of this game. I hope I'm wrong but we'll see at release.
@@Hoodini0126a lot of people called it out, and hopefully like helldivers 2 the community wins and the company takes the knee
180 ping is not low. Servers seem to only be based in the depths of asia
I just want to unlock shit by doing shit
Too rare in mp games these days
U unlock good equipment and many free rewards including season skin if you play well, all for free. Y'all complain wayyyy too much
You literally can do that in AB....
So do that
That's how the game works. You have to grind for all the items.
You can buy items or trade in loot you find around the maps.
By buy i mean in game money, no item in the game cost real money.
Every single item can be obtained by a f2p player except for cosmetic skins and a few cases for storage.
Arena Breakout mobile already exist with microtransactions, but it really doesn't influence the game much. Sure you'd come across some pay-2-win players, but god damn it, those players are walking loot and they just don't know it yet
Arena Breakout Infinite's anti-cheat is excellent; so far, I haven't encountered any cheaters during gameplay. The gaming experience is much better compared to EFT.
Are you a bot, the game just came out no shit there is basically none cheating yet, also its kernal level so its probably going to be less but at the cost of basically owning your pc so fuck that.
@@JJ-ft6jb he talking about mobile version, it still has cheater but there is an anti cheat.
@@HolyXerxes Well mobile literally has nothing to do with pc so i dont get the point.
@@JJ-ft6jbBattleye and easy anti cheat are also kernel level lol. More so EAC. what are they gonna do with your pc? Lmao this games gonna have micro transactions and p2w because its free to play itll fall off
guys dayum, i play the mobile version and, at the end of the day, p2w player and f2p players gonna get obliterated by some leg meta gun main as well
Appreciate the fact that Bigfry addressed the issue with Tencent. Even beyond the CCP connection, the company has an abysmal track record with anti-consumer practices in their game production. I personally was hype about this game until I found out who was making it.
PUBG is also from Tencent
@@arkdowngamingpubgmobile is from Tencent
Pubg I from krafton
Tencent owns 40% of Epic
its tencent or bsg
@@arkdowngaming PUBG *Mobile* ☝🤓
The Tencent argument is redundant because they own a majority of nearly every major developer and publisher anyways.
this , people bitching about "oh noo , its tencent, its ccp" while forget that tencent have share in almost every major game industry, also don't forget RIOT is owned by tencent
@mastersnu810 what's a riot? Get outside here ccp bots
@@mastersnu810 the difference is the game was what it was before it was aquired. A game made by americans and then being bought is not the same as a chinese developed game with free to play monetization practices built with those in mind from its inception.
@@locdogg86a game made by Chinese developers is almost better every time due to its optimisation and monetisation model not every Chinese made game is p2w look at arena breakout mobile it’s not p2w u can buy the same stuff for Ingame money
@@locdogg86isnt monetization that's basically most state of game currently? regardless where its being developed , but why hate on chinese developer especially is boggling my mind
He said that there would be no p2w but convenience lol. Yeah that's also a problem! That means they will make things inconvenient on purpose?
it's a free game, yes that usually ends up being the case
@@oceanforth21 not always, there are plenty of F2P games that just have cosmetics only.
@@xlM3RCxlmobile player since launch here. I m an f2p, things r pretty convenient. The devs know how to balance things out.
@@soullette great to hear, I'll give it a try in beta this week!
on the mobile version the p4c is not a problem getting killed by one of thise players is not different than beig killed by a f2p. not to mention most of that stuff can be found in game or bought on the market. granted it will be more time consuming than just buying them (obviously) but you could have the best gear possible and still die to some naked rat with a mp40 and dum dum rounds
I don't know how people didn't expect this kind of stuff from a Tencent game it's really not surprising
What kind of stuff?
@@mikedebakker5820payed cosmetic etc
@@mikedebakker5820 micro transactions and pay for convenience, that sort of stuff
Pubg is tencent
@@michael-zv5xq and this? What’s your point
Nikita tries every possible way to swindle your money, unlike Arena Breakout Infinite, offers free play and doesn't expect anything in return.
dude you're smoking pure copium just wait til release when they try to "swindle your money". they will 1000% be like "hold my beer Nikita". Tencent is known for ruining their games with p2w and micro transactions. To get a secure container it's $5 & $8 a month and that's just the container wait til people spend hundreds on in-game money and items.
they expect you to either suffer or to buy their subscription based secure containers ROLF
@@lukask2489 you dont have to though. Its supposed to be there for convenience as advertised.
@@AwesomeGuy2xkey word “supposed” honestly the only free to play game that does it right is Warframe
You are an idiot if you think they're making arena for you out of love.
Bro, I don't know who's gameplay you were showing, but it was hard to watch at some moments. lol. Great video as always man.
2:53 Alright what was that moan
You tell me
@@BigfryTV pete diddy jumpscare
@@BigfryTV*velcro sounds* 😳
Why is anyone surprised that a free to play game is asking you to spend extra money? They cost money to make and maintain...
The concern is how much money is going to become necessary to compete down the road. Some f2p games end up costing exponentially more than normal games because you have to keep spending to stay competitive
@@DemothHymside as a AB mobile player, they don't charge much(I only paid for battlepass) and paid elements are not game changing whatsoever. Although I could agree with Camouflage cosmetics being harder to see but it isn't much of an issue.
@@justgaming8099 i don't think camoflage cosmetics makes you harder to see. Instead it makes you more suspectible for being a player.
@@birbmafiamember4781 wdym? Thats what camouflage do. You can literally differentiate a player from a scav from miles away, even with default clothing I would immediately know it's a player
@@DemothHymsidethey don’t really charge much for stuff and they’re not particularly game changing that gives you a massive advantage, only real P2W thing you can argue is spending a few dollars a month for extra safe space that guarantee smaller potential monetary loss from each match
I'm a simple man. I hear tencent, I turn the other way.
That’s why u haven’t played any game made by epic games and riot right
better than 250
People moan about Tencent but forget that nearly every gaming company has Tencent as backers 😂
there’s a huge difference between tencent being a parent company of a dev studio to tencent being invested in other games
I think its funny when people "click off because TENCENT" like Tencent doesnt own 80% of the gaming industry in the states already xD. Most popular games have investments from tencent these days. Epic games, Riot Games, Grinding Gear Games, ubisoft, funcom, splash damage, techland, bluehole, activision blizzard, paradox, hell even DISCORD. They are an investment firm with a heavy vested interest in gaming. MOST popular games these days are atleast 5%+ ownership from tencent.
Well said brother 👍
All while having parts made in China in their PCs
@@ninochaosdrache3189 bro right? Everything is made in china lol
I played arena breakout and ngl, as a free player you'd get more than enough equipment and rewards to be ln same footing as paying players. Even more if you got to kill them, since you could loot them and get whatever they paid for for that match.
You say that to justify these predatory P2W microtransactions. Why are you blindly accepting having the ability to pay your way to progressing in the game?
@@mzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmobile player here, I could say the same, I have 2 F2P account and 1 P2W, honestly didn't feel much of a difference
@@mzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzcoming here after spending extra money for the more expensive version of EFT to get to p2w?
Arena breakout devs aren't as pathetic as BSG.
@@mzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmzmake things up that don't exist. Predatory? Lol
@@soullette I havent purchased EFT a day in my life, don't assume shit of me
Well, this is how every free mobile game ends, p2w
Quite the opposite.
It's expected for a free game to have P2W or ads because they need the money for profit and support the servers.
@@MouldyCheez but on mobile it is not pay to win so i dont see how would it be pay to win on pc
It’s very hard to not win in this game as a solo, and without buying something at least on the mobile version of the game
arena breakout on mobile isnt p2w,you just waste money on cosmetics nothing else
If you're turned off by "tencent" uninstall anything Discord, Riot Games, Epic Games and more... Lol
I downloaded the mobile version on my pc and before I started a game I suddenly got banned. NGL, their security is kinda good
you can’t use emulators. always an instant ban.
I dont care about buying kits but man the secure container being only paid on mobile is ridiculous its a monthly subscription just to get one
It's b**l S**t . They should have just include that in the battle pass. And make way for players to get it for free if not the biggest secure container atleast the middle
@@conflictvideo3014 uhmm there IS a free secure container in ranked shop (temporary for 3 days) . You can buy it 2 times a week hence 6 days , the ranked shop will replenish, the cycle continues like this for me
That's what has me fucked up about this game too. Let me one time like tarkov
I mean what do you expect from a free mobile game. They gotta make money somehow. Its gonna be the same with the PC version. Battle Passes, Monthly subscriptions, P2W cosmetics or getting good loot early. Its sad reality even with like Tarkov or G2W
True but nothing game breaking or P2W.
Man I knew this video was coming😂 Glad I'm not the only with these concerns
The same people talking about pay to win legit paid for eod on tarkov which gives your way more space in your inventory in game and your stash lol
Anyone who’s played the game knows it’s not P2W. You don’t even have to pay a cent to advance. Only thing you pay is skins and secure case but none of that is game breaking or takes advantage in-game. Anyone whose used real money only used it because they have no more Keons from losing so much or expand secure case. You can earn Keons in-game if your a good player you don’t even need to expand secure slots. Nothing in this game is P2W. It’s a free game that everyone can enjoy without paying.
No game has a perfect anti-cheat programs. It’s how they maintain it. Compared to tarkov they already made a clear excuse why they can’t handle cheaters. So comparing the game is mostly just how cheaters handled and gameplay. For money there is no comparison.
Making a shit load of money in the game isn’t hard if you have a couple good keys and are decent at pvp
@@Overlycomplicatedswede that’s the truth that’s why it’s crazy that people who never played the game or just barely played it think it’s P2W.
@@aiyumi5 the game has mechanics that could be called P2W but in reality, having a lot of money and buying the best gear doesn’t mean you are at a unfair advantage as gear you use doesn’t indicate skill.
It is a Chinese free to play game, what do you think is gonna happen.
Seriously, it would hurt their player base too much
Did you see the shots they took at BSG's anti cheat while they were discussing their anti cheat? at 4:17 look at the image on that card he's holding.
Shturman my G.
That’s the hacks that have been shitting on Tarkov.
lol
Lol
None of these RUclipsrs have actually played the mobile version, not even touched it, so I am not gonna be surprised of the reaction to the release
Okay Fry, if you don't wanna play this maybe don't join the beta, no one forces you
" Come on man " is fry letting us now he's got no Fucks to give anymore..
All he does is bitch about games with no good information or evidence, dudes a loser lmfao
It would be nice to get some.more of these shooters to console. Vigor is okay and DMZ was fun while they where still supporting but besides that theirs not much so hopefully they consider a console release in the future.
The spending money for convenience thing isnt a big deal, its like 3$ a month for a 2x2 safe container or 6$ for a 2x4 and fairly unnecessary, you can get a free 1X2 for bullets for 47 hours each week with in game points, theres also a hige keychain you can soend money on but the one you get from questing is more then enough.
oh yea, you can buy in game currency but whats the fun in that anyway, the people who are good at the game would never soend a cent on that
Well it is a free-to-play game if nobody likes it then you can just delete it and not worry about it
Dumb argument to not give any data to Chinese developers but there is no problem to accept any terms of service from any other app or software with live service that you download on your phone or PC for data collection.
🙄🙄
You have to appreciate the irony of a studio called "More Fun" offering microtransactions to make their game more convenient
we dont have any pay to win microtransactions in our games. Everything in arena breakout is and will be cosmetic
@@ahmedbulje8318not in arena breakout mobile where you can buy money
Batter then 250$ lol
As if current paid games don't have microtransactions.
you dont need it tho lmao,you just gonna get fancy jacket and thats all,just that
Micro-transaction for this game will be for the locker box which like the gamma box for eft and expansion of ur stash. If you pay money for the battlepass, u can get stash expansions and premium currency. Mobile version does this so I'm expecting the same thing to the PC version.
Btw the closed betas in mobile microtransactions is turned off until the game is fully released(which fully released a year ago)
TBH id sell my soul if just one of these companies that are jumpin on this train could bring back (the good parts of) 2019 Tarkov PVP. Labs as a game would be all many of us need. please! Anyone?
I left another comment but I think it got autohidden for mentioning another channel.
Look at mobile gameplay for the TV station and armory maps. Very similar to old labs. A lot of raiders, pvp, and there is no fir, so you can sell player gear.
If f2p means it will be p2w, can tarkov be considered p2w? cuz u have to pay for cheats to have a chance
Tarkov is 100% p2w sir, there is no question about it
If Stalker 2 is a great Game i really would love if they invested money into a second studio maybe in czechia or something that makes an extraction shooter in the zone. It would be so cool collecting artifacts with other Stalkers while shooting Mutants, Monoliths or Bandits and more. Could even be made like Gray Zone Warfare where every faction has a base and you venture out to do quests or go on loot runs in an open world.
Im just assuming their business model is the same as mobile. It's not as bad as it seems because the people who just buy the boxes for equipment are generally pretty bad at the game. Anything you buy can and will be lost to players who never spent a dime. I never spent any money in the mobile version and I did completely fine. Pretty much completed their version of a "wipe".
Any idea if there will be a pve only chill mode?
None
No.
gray warzone has p2w aka pay money to gain convenance too with extra weapons & stash sizes in their "Supporter packages"... no youtuber said anything.
so Now a Free to play also has p2w is pointed out? ehhhhhhh
i refuse to buy EOT due to that
i refuse to buy Gray Warzone due to that
and I will refuse to play this game due to the same thing.
consistency is key, So at least you provided me with the information for this game so i wont even have to bother checking it out
Edit: unless the game has a PvE only mode... where i dont even have to worry about facing mister Deep pockets
Played the mobile version here. The cases are not really that of a game changer unless you are a bad and you can also get them for a free at the seasonal store. Even if you face some dude who uses irl money it's useless because you can still them and claim the gear they got.
concerns aside 2morow is the day we will see how things will go
if you spend money on gear in the end you enter the raid with the same gear as everyone else. in the mobile version if u enter with a high loadout value the other players also have the same loadout value. its sort of like skill based matchmaking but for loadout value
No its not, I fought with thermal players with minimum gear. Even a rat will kill you in your precious Tier 6 armor. Their matchmaking is like the old cod lobbies even if you enabled rank points or not.
@@justgaming8099 and tbh, more nicer that way. Easy t6 with dum dum rounds
Ever wanted to buy Weapons, Armor, Rubles with real Money? Then it’s your lucky day you will be able to buy in game currency and Gears with real money in Arena Breakout Infinite. Good luck
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T5 gear on a inexperienced player hell yea😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋
Microtransactions in a FREE TO PLAY game is better than microtransactions in a game who's best variant is literally $250.
this
You can buy kits in arena Breakout mobile, and you can earn builds doing missions and and challenges, daily logins, and levelling up on free or premium battlepasses. The cosmetics can be obtained playing ranked modes or buying battle passes. Arena Breakout is kinda rough at times but they give a bunch of gear for free players.
Arena breakout mobile player here. I've been play it since closed beta. I never pay a single cent, and I have no problem playing it as a f2p player. No disadvantage whatsoever. I asure you arena breakout is not a p2w game. The only thing you can buy with a real money is secure container, character/outfit skins, weapon skins, and battle pass which contain weapon/outfit skins too. You can buy a bundle of armour and weapon if you want, but even if you are f2p player like me you can buy armour and weapon inside that bundle with in-game currency named koen.
You forgot to mention you can buy currency with irl currency.
@@Weszurson which almost no one buys (except streamers who did content like "getting 1 million using this specific weapon alone " in which they end up loosing lot of koens , so they would buy it .
I have 120k and 6.5 mil storage value and didn't even spended a single penny . It's just all skils that matter . Even t6 users can be killed by a budget mp5 rat who uses dum dum rounds (leg meta).
@@tpraveenkumar i just corrected, i know u can play without, but doesnt change the fact you can buy in game currency
Never heard of Chinese company called “morefun” yeaaah…….not touching it with a 10 foot pole
I mean, their mobile game already is technically pay to win. The elite battle pass, you can pay for a bigger safe storage box, you can buy in-game currency and then used that towards lvl 6 gear that you don’t get in any free rewards methods. Yes, you could grind for all of it and the game gives you enough gear to work with but even those more expensive bullets topping out at over $1,000 per bullet, which you’ll need just to survive in some of the hardest levels and seeing as though I’ve been one shotted through a $200,000 helmet from a cheap gun with cheap bullets, it does have a very pay to win aspect and the the way they do cosmetics makes you end up paying $25+ for a weapon skin. It is a good game. Considering the levels and everything are essentially the same, it’s too bad there isn’t any cross progression
You're right, Sade says RNG made this game p2w. Rng is designed to make us lose money.
Я за 2к часов не увидел снаряжение T6, видел только комплект Т5. Я должен проверить это
@@madness_ayou have to buy the t6 equipment from the market from other players. I’ve been in full t6 gear with the $200k helmet that blocks your whole face, whole head and I was undamaged…one shotted from a mosin to the back of the head with the purple bullets. Starting to think that the t6 armor is just a joke and not worth the money. Started sticking to tier 5 because I don’t see a difference tbh.
@@pw6545я неправильно понял твой комментарий, я думал что ты про донат валюту.
@@pw6545 Doesnt sound p2w to me if the cheapest gear can beat the most expensive
welo i really needed a video while sick :)
the convenience microtransactions have been in the mobile version since the beginning and i think it has not affected the game on a large scale. you pay for ingame currency, cases, and storage space and nothing more. anything you pay for can VERY quickly be earned by normal means. for perspective you can very easily hit 1 mil within a day, with a large Ebox being worth only 700k
Ive played the mobile game quite a bit, The micro transactions are skins, a bigger secure container(like Tarkov) and kits. Most people wont even buy the kits for real money because you can loose it to a shitter with a double barrel shotgun. It doesn't give you more health or any major advantage, its a free game. How else are they going to make money? Should they have a 250$ version? Plus they have a in house anti cheat, which matters more for fairness that microtransactions. ABI's AC can detect DMA cards.
Having a 40e pack that removes all MTX like SMITE does would be a good option.
WHAT! Why do players not write the game off for being a mobile game make for PC?! That's the biggest tell of them all!
Cause it's being remade. Plus the microtransactions are fine on mobile unlike CoDMs and PUBGMs. Those are trash.
Because some mobile games are actually fun.
@@ajs3637 ok :-) lets see how it is when it comes out!
@@ninochaosdrache3189 if you can get an advantage with your credit, no! It is pure trash, and I have not seen any mobile game where you cannot just SWIPE your card and get an advantage!
The biggest problem with any game that is f2p but full of micro transactions is that the devs of said games never balance it out, so it truly is for convenience rather then to actually get ahead and stay ahead.
Come on guys. China needs another aircraft carrier so we gotta buy the Taiwan unification package
1 view in 27 seconds. Fell off
154 views in 2 minutes, irrelevant
53k in 2 days. Washed up.
1 view in 32 sec bro fell off
Edit:you guys are so mad you should drink some milk lmao
Screw off with this trend
@@stellarthealiendeerwhy you mad it’s literally a joke 😭
@@stellarthealiendeer Me too I'm doing this ironically
Another original, super funny comment. Great job!
@@zdonoJokes are supposed to be funny :^)
U missed the funfact while they talked about anticheat that the guy holds a Tarkov DMA card in his hand... :D was kinda funny.
Nobody say they gave a lot of free conteiners for 3 days, and you get 2 free conteiners from the free battle pass for 3 days, also the rank store you can buy 2 conteiners
Dude can you stop complaining about games that build their own business model The mobile version is free to play you can pay for cosmetics as well as the convenience of furthering your gameplay just because it isn't the game you want doesn't mean its going to suck.
Did the devs pay you to comment this or are you that daft? WE DONT WANT TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE INGAME CURRENCY OR THINGS THAT WILL FURTHER PROGRESSION. **What** don't you understand about that?
Hey bigfry. Are you making a video about tarkov situation? I'm curious what your reaction is.
I already did!
Im just blind apparently. I guess the video wasnt recommended to me. Time for me to watch, lol. @@BigfryTV
We'll see how it goes, im jsut glad grayzone and others are emerging to challenge BSG and maybe overall improve the extraction shooter genre.
Alright lets get into it but Big fry you should talk about the tarkov spt mod and give your thoughts
I’m amazes me how expensive things like insurance are in these style games. Tarkov and vigor alike, hell vigor is like $1 or more each match for insurance
can anyone help..i have been accepted to the beta however the website isnt reachable..ive tried on phone laptop pc desktop tablet nothing..it wont open so i cant even download the beta and i have heard nothing on the twitter
Try again on a different date or with better internet connection
@@justgaming8099 thanks man it worked this morning!
Gotta love optics mounted to a non-monolithic handguard. What's zero retention?
The thing is, if the game is like Tarkov, but free and without a container case (only obtainable by purchase) would it be pay for convenience? Yes. Would it be okay? of course. So we just have to wait and see
I don't mind paying for convinience like stash size,xp boost stuff like that as long as its pricing is reasonable.
I think paying you should be expected to pay some money to fully enjoy the game.
I think having a premium subscription like in ESO is the best way to secure stable income for the studio and not making the game "Wahle-able".
Its healthier for the game to have crucial feature behind paywall and have most player to pay like $10~20 every few month than have $100 skins.
Been playing the mobile version since the first beta, it is S4 on the global version now. I have reached 20 mil without even topping up once.
This game is completely skill based. topping up will only give you convenience like currencies to buy better weapons, but it doesn't matter because you'd still lose them if you suck.
Well, at least it's free to test a few hours or even days before throwing any money at them.
I'm a simple man. If it runs well for me on my sys, if they will have good anti cheat, and I'm having fun, I'm good with spending a few bucks on some more fun.
If it sucks, I didn't loose anything.
Exactly. Wish everyone was like this.
IMO, free to play games like this should have two versions and one type of monetization. A limited version of the game for free, full featured version for $40-70. That's it.
Maybe make the equivalent featureset and stash size of the basic edition of Tarkov be free. And the big stash size + all available features be behind a single full price paywall. Keep a basic stash size, maybe lock stuff like insurance behind a paywall, but all the SAME singular paywall. Just two options, free to play, or paid, that's it. *NOT BS LIKE* $20 for full progression, $10 for insurance, $25 for stash size increase etc... Just free basic bitch edition or one single payment for all features. So something like a permanent demo/trial being the free version.
Serious players still bring in full price bucks, free to play gives people a taste and helps keep the game populated. Maybe even cap the progression for free to play (you can only go to level 50 instead of the full 100, can only get through the first chapter/third/section of the questline, etc...)
I don't mind paying $10's of dollars, if it's one paywall and one lump sum. Buy once, cry once. There should be a way for free to play to also have a buy once cry once monetization
Big shoes to fill. BIG shoes. If they deliver… game changer.
Mag release on tha left is driving me nuts and why is the laser always on
Let's just face it, there's never going to be a Tarkov killer. Even a direct rip off using the same code is already starting to have serious concerns and it hasn't even come out yet
I see this from a different perspective and feel your thoughts are completely valid.
Skins: They often will take away from the realism but can actually be pay to lose if theyre bright colours etc. Tarkov's creator mentioned creating skins for their game too (not a Tarkov player for reference)
Pay for convenience: 100% Crap but usually the people who do this are rubbish at the game and will probably just be easy targets for skilled players looking for a big payday in a looter shooter. People will go whaling for whales and it'll balance out imo.
The mobile version has subscription stuff in it for free loot/storage space/kit and they're quite pricey but the game itself is pretty generous by way of daily challenges that grant free money and/or kit. Idk about its current monetization scheme but they were that way in the closed beta and launch of the mobile version.
Never felt the need to subscribe to it other than extra storage space, and yes, there are stashes that the vendors are trading for some required loot just like Tarkov, so you probably dont need it unless you like hoarding stuff to sell more stuff in the flea market which is quite fun itself.
One thing I can say about this game, even on mobile, it's polished as f. i hated it on mobile because i suck on playing fps on it, but it's actually beyond decent. You can see the money that went to it. It's as if they've consulted some experienced western devs to work on the game.
It's a great alternative for the more punishing Tarkov and the game feel isn't far off either. Idk if I can trust Tencent software on my PC though
i play the mobile version, the things you can buy:
t4 gear + gun (mid)
season pass (gives u t4 + weapon ad ammo packs )
a safe
2x1 or 2x2
i only buy the battle pass and its more than enough for me bc i get high end gear the “legit” way and the t4 from the pass is basically a “casual match stash” that i use when i dont mind loosing loot
also, the safe can be bought every week with ranked currency
it doesn’t get in your way
unless you suck at the game and compesate w wallet
also if you dont play scav and use the market to make extra currency
edit: theres also a monthly subscription 40k weekly/daily (cant remember) and a safe
its 25-50 R$ here in 🇧🇷, imo this is a waste of money, id rather buy a 6 pack of budweiser with this 25-40 reais
The “Chinuhhh” was gold.
Free to Play and Chinese developer is probably the biggest combined red flag in gaming
Damn I was actually looking forward to this one
Still try it, if you want to see for yourself try the mobile version it's free anyway. This youtuber is just yapping without trying out the mobile version, they won't change the game much its just brought to pc.
if they go the path of exile way selling inventory space or xp multiplyers i woudn't mind honestly, as long as the free to play inventory isnt just 2rows..
also more f2p games should have a free version and a payed one..
In full release there are no storage wipes, you keep what you keep. About the 2nd phrase, cod in general will benefit from this, multiplayer is shit and should be free, campaign should be paid.
how exactly are they suposed to earn money without monitization?
If Bunny skins will be added = R.I.P.
Goddammit. I was excited.
Shit fry you know we appreciate your opinion all the time my guy or we wouldn’t watch, keep up the good work as always bro! ❤
They will have microtransaction but on the minor battlepass vs subscription. Where you use money to get certain advance when use real money. But i think it’s still fair cause they just use real time and money instead of spend hours to grind. And of all, i think it’s also a good one for those who want to jump in with friend and enjoy their precious time.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
We have to realise that this is a free to play “mobile game” that has been converted to pc it will have micro transaction. This is how these types of games are kept alive. And the micro transaction are very cheap from just a few cents to a few dollars, I do believe that this game has a lot of potential and shouldn’t be rated by the “in game perching”.
Bangers!!
Convenience and personalisation is exactly what they should do in a F2P game, as long as you cant pay to buy a thermal straight up.
getting a thermal straight up quite literally would be convenience tho.
In all honesty it can't be worse than gray zone warfare randomly starting to restart my PC without having any issues hardware wise and without me being able to force an emergency restart with anything I try otherwise - which then even forces me to restart again because I get lag spikes after running it for even 5 minutes or getting that emergency restart.
Simply because that's just straight up not beatable by anything.
Cant wait to buy my pink ghilie suit
its not pay to win you can buy a couple of gear bundles and their is a battle pass but their is a free version that still give you a lot of stuff and the monthly subscription is nice but you can buy containers with the money you earn from raids and if you do spend money on gear you can still get one taped by someone who is f2p if you don't have the skills to back up the gear you have on it doesn't matter you will still die.
and you don't even need to spend money on currency you get it at the end of the season if you play
The mobile version have subscription for secure containers on top of a battle pass which are pretty expensive.
The secure containers are extremely cheap. The BP is 5 bucks and the ultimate one (that provides no extra p2w just more cosmetics) is 15 if you feel generous.
As an avid mobile player you can buy currency and you have to buy bonds which unlock more storage space
Also you don’t get gear back they half ass give you med supplies
@@ogcookiemonster4649you must be a newbie considering how Joel only gives painkillers when you have started the game.
Kinda makes me wonder how they will treat the steam deck / linux users that will be interested in the game
Some of that recoil looks doooogggg breh.. will be curious how it looks live tomorrow
Have you ever shot a gun?
@@fratelemika1290 nuh uh, I was a boyscout once, tho
Fal has high recoil so its expected. Some guns have low to zero recoil so don't worry about it much
@justgaming8099 Rog-o. Lookin forward to it! Thanks for the dont cha know 🤘