@@elputoamo5686 if you make more than 60k per year, that is above the average in America. If you not making above 80k per year this truck’s not in the cards assuming you don’t leverage your spouse’s income or take on more than you can responsibility afford. My Covid 2021 Tacoma was totaled, 2024 corolla hybrid is financed at 6.9% at 425$ per month. Almost 500$ for a Corolla AND that’s excluding the big increase in insurance rates. Most people don’t realize how many overspend based on their income for these new cars. You’d think everyone is making 100k, false. These prices are not normal and simply a byproduct of overseas increasing their prices for goods and high interest rates in our country.
Stance is wicked but so is that price, yikes. Love everything aethetically minus the gloss fender flares which don't seem like they'd do too well if you actually off-roaded this.
Sounds like the MPG of the new pro is very similar to the old one, BUT the old TRd Pro ran a 16” wheel with 31.5” tires. The new one with the 18” wheels and 33” tires def doesn’t help mileage.
The MSRP in Canada for one is $80k.. $90k+ for out the door. Completely and utterly retarded price. I dont know what Toyota is smoking but that thing is far from an $80k vehicle.. $40k-$45k cdn max.
Awesome video Matt, love the review as always, regarding the seats, I have read from owners that you have to adjust the air pressure and dampening according to your weight for the seats to be effective, could’ve been that the person who had it before you weighed more and the seats were adjusted to their settings. Regarding the fuel economy, there’s no escaping the fact that it is running 33inch tires with a lot of ground clearance, neither is it shaped for fuel economy so the odds are definitely not in it’s favor 😂. Love the Tacoma tho, it’s definitely my favorite in this segment.
It’s a very stout motor that will serve well. I have a 2023 4.0L which is frankly dated. I’ll probably own this for ten years, and after that I’ll probably move over to this engine. It’ll likely be completely bulletproof waaay before then. The huge increases in torque and mpg will be nice.
I have a 2021 TRD sport and even with very aggressive driving I still get 18 mpg. 23-24 if I’m taking it easy. 17 is crazy considering its turbo and hybrid
How disappointing with the fuel economy. Those 4C Turbo's really aren't all that great compared to the V6's on fuel economy. What were they thinking with those cupholders. Like they put them in backwards.
They are better. Main improvement is the low end torque is amazing. I live near the Wind River Range in Wyoming and I have a Turbo Ranger. Driving at elevation turbo is night and day better. Like I will never ever go back to a NA engine. EVER. Even if the fuel economy was exact same the performance is so much better.
@@drn13355 some people have a habit of comparing the old V6 epa ratings to the new 4cyl anecdotes of reviewers. Which is not an apples to apples comparison. If you’re getting 18mpg with this new engine, you were getting 13mpg with however you drove the old one. These engines are 20-25% more efficient in the real world than the old ones when both are ran under the same conditions. And there’s no replacement for the gobs of low torque these new ones make.
I never thought a truck could be such a joy to daily. Usually trucks are just blah, but my 24 Taco TRD sport seems like it was built for a fun driving experience. Great little rig.
Hi Matt! I appreciate your video! I’ve had my TRD Pro for about a month now. I am loving it both on and off road! The seats, including the ISO Dynamic feature I feel really adds to the comfort and customization - agree, the bolstering alone is fantastic. Rear legroom is not a bother for me, as I rarely have rear passengers. Love the 14” screen, especially while using CarPlay - a game changer for navigating with Google Maps and OnXOffRoad! My one complaint too is the gas mileage. I am also just getting on average about 17.3 miles/gallon. Granted I have a Westcott Design’s additional 1” collar lift, running 35” RT tires, 17” wheels. I have been using the gas economy setting in “Normal”, and yet to try “Econo” mode to see if it improves. I would also like a larger gas tank for more range during wheeling excursions. But, overall am very pleased with this new trim!
That said, no truck does well on gas spinning 35s. Can’t imagine how low a previous gen Tacoma gets on 35s with the same driving habits. And that’s without having nice things like torque.
Feel like if they made those seats, the power tailgate as options it could save $2,000 off the already 'too' high MSRP, considering my '20 TRD PRO MSRP was just over $46,000. I'll keep my V6 which doesn't require Premium fuel like the new Tacoma's
I was wondering if those seats were gimicky.. looks like they focused on the seats more than the cup holders 😂. It’s a decent look truck inside and out but I don’t see a reason why it’s $65K.
I was ready to trade my 2008 Tundra 5.7L V8 Limited 4X4 for this TRD PRO or Trailhunter. Then I saw the price stickers......$70K+ for one of these.......No Toyota dealer in SO-CAL will sell these without at least $7, $8K markups. $10K markups is the norm. I think I'll wait 2, 3 years for those end lease unit hit dealers, cause no way in hell I'll pay that for a small truck.
Good honest review. Marketers have won over the engineers on latest Toyotas. Over priced, cheaply made, gimmicks, small overly complex engines with false advertising MPG to book. I see a class action or EPA recall coming with those terrible numbers.
0 to 60 = BOOM, don’t forget to go back down the road and pick up suspension parts, front transfer case and tranny all for $67k, THATS INSANE. BUT in fairness all the manufacturers are charging you more and giving you less, that’s just a fact.
Only thing Toyota got right with this truck is the looks, interior and exterior. Interior looks good, but useless. Exterior, best looking mid sized truck. Everything else about the truck is a fail. Especially at that price.
For me one of the top criteria for a daily driver is cost, and in that category the TRD PRO fails miserably. Fuel economy is abysmal and purchase price is through the roof.
My old 2019 Tacoma was a QDR nightmare. Too much unscheduled maintenance. Tried a couple 2024’s and was overall underwhelming and the vehicle was loaded with mediocrity. Felt fragile and insubstantial.
Frankly this is moronic trim to buy…. As is any PRO model. They’re all awful value. TRD Offroad with minimal options is what the smart money does. Very, very few owners go somewhere that a TRD Offroad with decent tires can’t get to.
These are Way too much money, not worth it and they should have kept the V6. Does anyone else notice All the Toyota trucks that do this IForce Max hybrid set up are horrible on gas mileage. The new Tundra IForce Max is also horrible on gas mileage. A co worker bought the new Tundra with that Iforce hybrid set up and he said his V8 Tundra was better on the highway for mileage, he said the new IForce Max in Tundra only did two miles better in the city. He said wish he kept the V8. Looks like same goes for this new Tacoma, they should have just kept the V6, what is the point of a complex hybrid setup if the mileage is no better than the traditional engines. Very stupid.
I live near the Northern Wind River Range in Wyoming. I drive at elevation 7 days a week. Drive a turbo and then a NA engine at altitude. The turbo performance is light years better. I have a turbo Ranger. I am getting better gas mileage, but even if I wasn't. The low end torque is sick and I will take the performance improvement 7 days a week and two times on Sunday. 100K miles in no issues. You can call it "stupid" all you want. I could give two sh***.
Whenever Ford has one in my press fleet. They’re pretty slow to provide cars usually so I’m not sure when I’ll get to review the Ranger Raptor unfortunately.
I can see you’re all disappointed with the Tacoma😁 If only there was a famous Toyota hater who predicted all over the internet that the Tacoma would be such a disappointment😂😉 None of you listened yet you just all attacked me with your nonsensical comments. But once again, you failed miserably to shut me down. But by all means, go ahead and continue your attacks on me with your ubiquitous “naveens a delusional toyota hater who owns a Camry.” comments. Because those remarks are just going to fall flatter than pancakes in front of your faces. You’re getting proven wrong by the Toyota hater over and over. At some point you’ll have to start acknowledging “gee, maybe Naveen was right all along. Maybe we should have listened. He may not be a journalist, but he sure knows his stuff” So what do you have to say now huh?😂
You buy this over a sensibly priced TRD Offroad model because you’ve got dummy cash to burn and want the clout. It’s not what the smart money chooses. This is marginally better offroad than a TRD Offroad with proper tires.
17.4 mpg from a hybrid 4 cylinder is really bad. Turbo engines drink gas under boost. The previous gen with the 2.7L four cylinder (2TR-FE) with 4WD got 19 city/22 hwy/20 combined. Also noticed previous gen Tacomas are holding their value, almost appreciating when people started having problems with the new gen Taco. This 4 cylinder model is not going to hold as well as the previous gen, but at the end of the day, a Toyota truck is still a Toyota truck.
I only disagree with your opinion on the seats. They're supposed to be stiff, which is why you feel bumped because you're not an off roader type person. If you actually bothered to go off road, those seats actually work.
This truck should be no more than $55k
30K
$20 and a 6 pack of beer
@@MrCovert23 it's worth the money
@@Oni64don't get me wrong I think it's overpriced but for 30k? lol I think the problem here is that ur broke start looking at the SR & SR5
@@elputoamo5686 if you make more than 60k per year, that is above the average in America. If you not making above 80k per year this truck’s not in the cards assuming you don’t leverage your spouse’s income or take on more than you can responsibility afford.
My Covid 2021 Tacoma was totaled, 2024 corolla hybrid is financed at 6.9% at 425$ per month. Almost 500$ for a Corolla AND that’s excluding the big increase in insurance rates.
Most people don’t realize how many overspend based on their income for these new cars. You’d think everyone is making 100k, false. These prices are not normal and simply a byproduct of overseas increasing their prices for goods and high interest rates in our country.
Looks great just trucks in general are too expensive. I’d go with the AT4x
This x1000.
No rear seat room and way overpriced
Great looking truck but $65k I don’t think it’s worth that much
$61K before taxes. Good luck??
17.4 mpg is horrible and it’s a hybrid. Wow
It’s meant for power not MPG.
These Toyota 2.5T hybrid powertrains in the Tacoma, Grand Highlander, and Land Cruiser all have horrible fuel economy.
The hybrid system in these things isn’t for fuel economy…it’s for power.
@@willneverstop17.4 MPG for 326 hp in s mid-size is awful too.
Stance is wicked but so is that price, yikes. Love everything aethetically minus the gloss fender flares which don't seem like they'd do too well if you actually off-roaded this.
Absurd price. Half-baked product.
@@frumpd63 listen to savage geese much?
3:33 But you ARE paying for them…..and you had NO option🙄
Yeah he misrepresented that. You're also not just paying with your money but with the comfort of anyone in the backseat.
If I had my pick, I would just go with the Canyon AT4 and I don't even like gm
Sounds like the MPG of the new pro is very similar to the old one, BUT the old TRd Pro ran a 16” wheel with 31.5” tires. The new one with the 18” wheels and 33” tires def doesn’t help mileage.
Old one can run 300k miles, new one 30k with lots of luck...
Lots of DB’s in my area drive TRD PRO…same type, craft beer, Arcteryx gear, manicured beards etc
🤣 Colorado?
2024 Ranger Raptors are selling at 58k. No way am I buying a taco trd pro for 66k. Makes no sense!
Nobody is dumb enough to spend 65k on a tacoma.
would buy a full size for that money
The MSRP in Canada for one is $80k.. $90k+ for out the door. Completely and utterly retarded price. I dont know what Toyota is smoking but that thing is far from an $80k vehicle.. $40k-$45k cdn max.
@@wd8085 oh yes they are 🤣
You must not have ever been to Denver, CO?
Awesome video Matt, love the review as always, regarding the seats, I have read from owners that you have to adjust the air pressure and dampening according to your weight for the seats to be effective, could’ve been that the person who had it before you weighed more and the seats were adjusted to their settings. Regarding the fuel economy, there’s no escaping the fact that it is running 33inch tires with a lot of ground clearance, neither is it shaped for fuel economy so the odds are definitely not in it’s favor 😂. Love the Tacoma tho, it’s definitely my favorite in this segment.
I get 17.4 mpg on mine too 6:05
I’ve seen some in person but idk about the Hybrid motor still. I own a 09 Tacoma with the 4.0L V6 and it’s my daily with 78k miles. Still love it.
It’s a very stout motor that will serve well. I have a 2023 4.0L which is frankly dated. I’ll probably own this for ten years, and after that I’ll probably move over to this engine. It’ll likely be completely bulletproof waaay before then. The huge increases in torque and mpg will be nice.
If only Toyota had put the 4Runner powertrain into the third gen....
Piano black fenders are NOT the look!
Yeah I have no idea why Toyota thinks gloss black contrasts look good on a truck.
I have a 2021 TRD sport and even with very aggressive driving I still get 18 mpg. 23-24 if I’m taking it easy. 17 is crazy considering its turbo and hybrid
Matt not shelling??? Karate chop guy, you’re not fooling anyone
😂😂
can't make them all happy someone always going to complain about something
Trail Hunter going for $100k in Canada here...
The Raptor absolutely pummels this
I still hear “ Suburu wrx fan here”
Best intro
The new Tacoma are nice but it’s overly priced.
Still love my 2019 TRD Pro 🔥🔥
How disappointing with the fuel economy. Those 4C Turbo's really aren't all that great compared to the V6's on fuel economy. What were they thinking with those cupholders. Like they put them in backwards.
They are better. Main improvement is the low end torque is amazing. I live near the Wind River Range in Wyoming and I have a Turbo Ranger. Driving at elevation turbo is night and day better. Like I will never ever go back to a NA engine. EVER. Even if the fuel economy was exact same the performance is so much better.
@@drn13355 some people have a habit of comparing the old V6 epa ratings to the new 4cyl anecdotes of reviewers. Which is not an apples to apples comparison. If you’re getting 18mpg with this new engine, you were getting 13mpg with however you drove the old one. These engines are 20-25% more efficient in the real world than the old ones when both are ran under the same conditions. And there’s no replacement for the gobs of low torque these new ones make.
“LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO MY BOY!”
I never thought a truck could be such a joy to daily. Usually trucks are just blah, but my 24 Taco TRD sport seems like it was built for a fun driving experience. Great little rig.
Glad you’re enjoying yours! The TRD Sport is the one I’d go with too.
I dont think I've seen one of these in person yet. On camera, they look massive. Are they huge or is this one just lifted?
The TRD Pros are definitely higher.
Hi Matt! I appreciate your video! I’ve had my TRD Pro for about a month now. I am loving it both on and off road! The seats, including the ISO Dynamic feature I feel really adds to the comfort and customization - agree, the bolstering alone is fantastic. Rear legroom is not a bother for me, as I rarely have rear passengers. Love the 14” screen, especially while using CarPlay - a game changer for navigating with Google Maps and OnXOffRoad! My one complaint too is the gas mileage. I am also just getting on average about 17.3 miles/gallon. Granted I have a Westcott Design’s additional 1” collar lift, running 35” RT tires, 17” wheels. I have been using the gas economy setting in “Normal”, and yet to try “Econo” mode to see if it improves. I would also like a larger gas tank for more range during wheeling excursions. But, overall am very pleased with this new trim!
Thank you for sharing your ownership experience!
That said, no truck does well on gas spinning 35s. Can’t imagine how low a previous gen Tacoma gets on 35s with the same driving habits. And that’s without having nice things like torque.
Great review! I hope you get a manual for a week!
Thanks, me too!
Feel like if they made those seats, the power tailgate as options it could save $2,000 off the already 'too' high MSRP, considering my '20 TRD PRO MSRP was just over $46,000. I'll keep my V6 which doesn't require Premium fuel like the new Tacoma's
Nahhhh no way he said the turbo is good for low end torque. You mean the thing that literally needs to spool up???
I was wondering if those seats were gimicky.. looks like they focused on the seats more than the cup holders 😂. It’s a decent look truck inside and out but I don’t see a reason why it’s $65K.
I was ready to trade my 2008 Tundra 5.7L V8 Limited 4X4 for this TRD PRO or Trailhunter. Then I saw the price stickers......$70K+ for one of these.......No Toyota dealer in SO-CAL will sell these without at least $7, $8K markups. $10K markups is the norm. I think I'll wait 2, 3 years for those end lease unit hit dealers, cause no way in hell I'll pay that for a small truck.
Good honest review. Marketers have won over the engineers on latest Toyotas. Over priced, cheaply made, gimmicks, small overly complex engines with false advertising MPG to book. I see a class action or EPA recall coming with those terrible numbers.
0 to 60 = BOOM, don’t forget to go back down the road and pick up suspension parts, front transfer case and tranny all for $67k, THATS INSANE. BUT in fairness all the manufacturers are charging you more and giving you less, that’s just a fact.
Only thing Toyota got right with this truck is the looks, interior and exterior. Interior looks good, but useless. Exterior, best looking mid sized truck. Everything else about the truck is a fail. Especially at that price.
I like the looks of the new Tacoma, inside and out, but I think I would take the Ranger Raptor and ZR2/AT4X over it.
For me one of the top criteria for a daily driver is cost, and in that category the TRD PRO fails miserably. Fuel economy is abysmal and purchase price is through the roof.
1 mile better than the V6 and you call it much better fuel economy?😂😂😂😂😂😂 and $5000-$10000 more than the year 2023 ?
how is it with towing and going on Home Depot runs?
Nissan Frontier seats are next level and need no knobs or bullshit suspension.
It’s not a car it’s a TRUCK !!!!!!!!
Nice truck... 65k..no freaking way
17 mpg is 3rd gen numbers on 33s
65000 !?!?!?!!! That's insane. 😮
It's not even a 1500, that is crazy priced!
Very nice tacoma PRO worth money to me
The tacoma is hideous now.
My old 2019 Tacoma was a QDR nightmare. Too much unscheduled maintenance. Tried a couple 2024’s and was overall underwhelming and the vehicle was loaded with mediocrity. Felt fragile and insubstantial.
Whats qdr?
Wow. Can't imagine why someone would pay 66k for this over a full size truck. 17mpg hybrid, yikes!
@@blunderingknifereviews1028 my 2011 Avalanche LTZ has 156,000 miles with the 5.3 liter V8 averages 17. Lol.
This is a $50k truck, but there are a LOT of simps out there.
Frankly this is moronic trim to buy…. As is any PRO model. They’re all awful value. TRD Offroad with minimal options is what the smart money does. Very, very few owners go somewhere that a TRD Offroad with decent tires can’t get to.
These are Way too much money, not worth it and they should have kept the V6. Does anyone else notice All the Toyota trucks that do this IForce Max hybrid set up are horrible on gas mileage. The new Tundra IForce Max is also horrible on gas mileage. A co worker bought the new Tundra with that Iforce hybrid set up and he said his V8 Tundra was better on the highway for mileage, he said the new IForce Max in Tundra only did two miles better in the city. He said wish he kept the V8. Looks like same goes for this new Tacoma, they should have just kept the V6, what is the point of a complex hybrid setup if the mileage is no better than the traditional engines. Very stupid.
I live near the Northern Wind River Range in Wyoming. I drive at elevation 7 days a week. Drive a turbo and then a NA engine at altitude. The turbo performance is light years better. I have a turbo Ranger. I am getting better gas mileage, but even if I wasn't. The low end torque is sick and I will take the performance improvement 7 days a week and two times on Sunday. 100K miles in no issues. You can call it "stupid" all you want. I could give two sh***.
😑😑😑
When will we see a video like this on the Ranger Raptor?
Whenever Ford has one in my press fleet. They’re pretty slow to provide cars usually so I’m not sure when I’ll get to review the Ranger Raptor unfortunately.
Looks good but made in Mexico, no thanks
Mexican made Tacomas have had sky high reliability for many years. I wouldn’t let that be the sole factor.
Great review. Sounds like the ranger raptor is the clear winner. This was supposed to have good power with good mpg.
If the quality went down, so does the price?
I can see you’re all disappointed with the Tacoma😁
If only there was a famous Toyota hater who predicted all over the internet that the Tacoma would be such a disappointment😂😉
None of you listened yet you just all attacked me with your nonsensical comments. But once again, you failed miserably to shut me down.
But by all means, go ahead and continue your attacks on me with your ubiquitous “naveens a delusional toyota hater who owns a Camry.” comments. Because those remarks are just going to fall flatter than pancakes in front of your faces. You’re getting proven wrong by the Toyota hater over and over. At some point you’ll have to start acknowledging “gee, maybe Naveen was right all along. Maybe we should have listened. He may not be a journalist, but he sure knows his stuff”
So what do you have to say now huh?😂
You buy this over a sensibly priced TRD Offroad model because you’ve got dummy cash to burn and want the clout. It’s not what the smart money chooses. This is marginally better offroad than a TRD Offroad with proper tires.
No V6 and to much good bye toyota 😂😂😂😂😂
The old 3.5L V6 was the worst dog ever. You’d be crazy to miss it. ZERO low torque.
17.4 mpg from a hybrid 4 cylinder is really bad. Turbo engines drink gas under boost. The previous gen with the 2.7L four cylinder (2TR-FE) with 4WD got 19 city/22 hwy/20 combined.
Also noticed previous gen Tacomas are holding their value, almost appreciating when people started having problems with the new gen Taco. This 4 cylinder model is not going to hold as well as the previous gen, but at the end of the day, a Toyota truck is still a Toyota truck.
Matt, you look like your growing like the trucks are. Take care, not trying to be harsh but health comes first.
So the engine shuts off and on? If so I can't stand that crap.
I only disagree with your opinion on the seats. They're supposed to be stiff, which is why you feel bumped because you're not an off roader type person. If you actually bothered to go off road, those seats actually work.
Like I said in the video, I did go off road on my initial drive and didn’t really feel anything there either.
Expect that ur engine ang trans will blow anytime!
I'll get a Pro 4X and save $15,000.