The only thing I don't like about abyss is where you can fall while peeking without realizing it. Also this is not a map design problem. its a plant site problem. Just move the plant site away from the main entrance to force players to play on site
He's not wrong. Every single map that Riot has released since Pearl has suffered the same fucking problem. It's absurd that they think that it's a good map design and keep doing the same thing over and over again hoping for a different result, it's the literal definition of insanity.
cant really do much, this is what happens with the abundance of utiil available. CS has superior maps by a mile just because you cant take site so easily
I think riot is facing an issue on increasing chokepoint sizes so it isn't narrow as hell when you entry, but then you get counter problem of easily spamming the bomb
The problem is you can plant in front of main. There should be something blocking the view or move the plant site away from main to force players to play on site It's an easy fix and it's not a map design iasue
@@solortus yea keep playing your game, from a tac fps stand point the maps are horrible, maybe in a year or two a new tac fps will come to replace valorant who knows.
@@kamonte5068 Sorry, English is my third language, but I bet you can still comprehend what I said if you speak this language, and I'm radiant, not platinum 3.
Thats doable on any map if you don’t plant like an npc so every map is bad and saying that doesn’t makes sense cause they were on attack and losing 💀 as much as I like tenz he complains a bit too much
youre not understanding what hes saying at all. "planting like a npc" is required because the bad maps have bombsites that are dogshit to hold on. So you have to plant in some "npc spots" and everyone runs off site to smokes themselves off and rng spams bomb pings cause its way easier to win a round like that than if you were to play on site and get util dumped. You do not have that problem on everymap. sites like haven, bind and ascent you have a better chance winning the round if you on the bombsite rather than running off with everyone and spamming smokes for rng wins
@@juxtinPK Step1 plant spike where you can spray from main(wish will never be impossible) step 2 fall back main and smoke yourself so they have a harder time stopping the spray that’s it so every map is bad why were they losing on attack explain to me how is not possible to spray from main in the map you’ve mentioned you just have to smoke yourself and not the spike as soon as he taps the spike you know where he is so you just have to full spray with your team and wait for another tap
@@Rita_NAE it's literally rinse and repeat which is why it's a bad map. There is no creativity involved with how the maps are designed. Plus TenZ is not the only one complaining about it and it's better for riot to hear these complaints so they could adjust and do better maps in the future
And no, it's not doable EVERY time on any map. You cant just sit on main and smoke yourself off on maps like icebox, ascent, split, and even fracture and pearl on some occasions. Maps that are designed to play post plants every single round while sitting on main sucks ass because it gets tiresome even as a viewer in pro play
hes right. riot is obsessed with making dogshit sites where u cant play on site and run back to main to play a spamfest
The only thing I don't like about abyss is where you can fall while peeking without realizing it.
Also this is not a map design problem. its a plant site problem. Just move the plant site away from the main entrance to force players to play on site
you only fall out when you go backwards, it's kinda rare for me to see someone fall while peeking
He's not wrong. Every single map that Riot has released since Pearl has suffered the same fucking problem. It's absurd that they think that it's a good map design and keep doing the same thing over and over again hoping for a different result, it's the literal definition of insanity.
cant really do much, this is what happens with the abundance of utiil available. CS has superior maps by a mile just because you cant take site so easily
Sounds like winging and excuses to me
Abyss and Sunset back to back trash let the guy who designed Lotus design the next map.
Sunset is betr than lotus tho
100% just the b site needs a bit of work@@Taran_Singh-rh2nj
Sunset B site is being changed should be a decent map after that since b is the problem site
Lotus C site post plant
I can't lie... Fracture and even Breeze (a little on the latter) are better 😂I'm fine with Ascent being gone. Same ass maps being played.
I think riot is facing an issue on increasing chokepoint sizes so it isn't narrow as hell when you entry, but then you get counter problem of easily spamming the bomb
The problem is you can plant in front of main. There should be something blocking the view or move the plant site away from main to force players to play on site
It's an easy fix and it's not a map design iasue
abyss is hard to play if u have shit teammates its ampliffied even more , cause if you realise the enemy team is overroatating and you dont fake site
This the guy that changes his opinion every 3 seconds and his fanboys just agree with him lmao
tenz complain about everything rn
So Good Map = Someone need to play on site
id rather play this than icebox
anybody whos over the rank of immortal 3 will agree with tenz, below that i consider as casual players who dont understand much
Too bad then. Majority of players are not immortal. Valorant doesn't just cater to the whims of the top 1% of players
Immortal 3? Tf bro, you have to be Radiant at least, bellow thar you're casual
@@Usagiiii12 learn to spell develop your brain maybe you'll get out of platinum after 3 years of playing
@@solortus yea keep playing your game, from a tac fps stand point the maps are horrible, maybe in a year or two a new tac fps will come to replace valorant who knows.
@@kamonte5068 Sorry, English is my third language, but I bet you can still comprehend what I said if you speak this language, and I'm radiant, not platinum 3.
Anything is better then Acsent with no Changes for 4 years
Goes to show it's a good and balance map tf
Ascent doesn't need any changes aside from *maybe* wall-bangablility, but that's every older Valorant map. All made of paper.
the only change that comes to mind for ascent is wallbangs, other than that map is really well designed
Why would it need change when it's already good?
remove pinging maybe
Riot should make it so at least one person has to be on site for the spike's timer to go down.
Abyss is the worst map, please bring back Breeze and remove Abyss 😂
Breeze is by far the worst. The ship area should be closed off
Abyss and lotus are the worst maps
Thats doable on any map if you don’t plant like an npc so every map is bad and saying that doesn’t makes sense cause they were on attack and losing 💀 as much as I like tenz he complains a bit too much
youre not understanding what hes saying at all. "planting like a npc" is required because the bad maps have bombsites that are dogshit to hold on. So you have to plant in some "npc spots" and everyone runs off site to smokes themselves off and rng spams bomb pings cause its way easier to win a round like that than if you were to play on site and get util dumped. You do not have that problem on everymap. sites like haven, bind and ascent you have a better chance winning the round if you on the bombsite rather than running off with everyone and spamming smokes for rng wins
@@juxtinPK Step1 plant spike where you can spray from main(wish will never be impossible) step 2 fall back main and smoke yourself so they have a harder time stopping the spray that’s it so every map is bad why were they losing on attack explain to me how is not possible to spray from main in the map you’ve mentioned you just have to smoke yourself and not the spike as soon as he taps the spike you know where he is so you just have to full spray with your team and wait for another tap
@@Rita_NAE it's literally rinse and repeat which is why it's a bad map. There is no creativity involved with how the maps are designed. Plus TenZ is not the only one complaining about it and it's better for riot to hear these complaints so they could adjust and do better maps in the future
And no, it's not doable EVERY time on any map. You cant just sit on main and smoke yourself off on maps like icebox, ascent, split, and even fracture and pearl on some occasions. Maps that are designed to play post plants every single round while sitting on main sucks ass because it gets tiresome even as a viewer in pro play
@@Mman3560 you’re right that’s no skill but that doesn’t explain how they were losing on attack or maybe they are just lazy
Ok hot take but Abyss is EASILY top 3 while ascent, lotus, icebox, etc SUCK like EASILY bottom 3
Bro complains about everything
It may seem like complaining, but hes right that the maps do all have the same problems