I wonder if this film was ever intended to launch a series of "film adaptations" of the story. You have to think that hypothetically this could have birthed 10+ annual films that, piece by piece, retold all of the biggest and best highlights of the entire series but with Film-level animation. Finding ways to condense, combine and retell the most crucial arcs where possible. Remember, at this point Pilaf and co never returned. So combining the "first hunt for the Dragon Balls" with the next major adversary like the Red Ribbon army made a lot of sense, as the Red Ribbon Army is crucial for future events. The next film might surely have been an "All about the tournament" movie where we would have been introduced to Krillin, Tien, etc Or it might have even had the tournament be "crashed" by the arrival of King Piccolo, and make the final half or 2/3rds of that movie a retelling of the King Piccolo arc. Then the 3rd film, to complete a Dragon Ball "trilogy" would easily have been about Piccolo Jr and winning the tournament. In "film world" I could see Raditz not existing at all, and having 1 film dedicated to the Saiyan arc. Goku's death could come at the hands of Vegeta. Then you have Goku and Piccolo going to King Kai's world together, learning and training together(Goku could just excel far beyond Piccolo) while the ENTIRE gang goes to Namek, including Gohan, Krilling, Bulma, Yamcha, Tien, etc So then the Namek and Frieza arcs/sections become a sort of two-part "cliffhanger ending" type of film. So now you have had 3 films for original Dragon Ball, and 3 films for the Saiyan-Namek-Frieza arc. Then you do another sort of "two part" film arc for the Androids and Cell Arc. Perhaps even a unique version with no time travel or future trunks. Then another "two film arc" for the Buu Saga. Then you would have a nice even 10 films that would tell the sort of condensed and streamlined version of the entire Dragon Ball Manga. It COULD have been pretty darn cool, something to initiate new fans into the mythos and to really shake out all of the fat of the story and tell the whole thing in a really cinematic, streamlined way.
Not only Bluma's hair, but did you notice how Puar's paws were colored? Another thing that feels odd about this movie is being an adventure story that doesn't enter a single town with civilians to save. It's all wild expanses and Red Ribbon strongholds!
This is by far the prettiest movie when it comes to art syle and animation, i love how bulma looks in here, i like most of the changes, i wish we got more movies with this quality,its one of my favorites.
As an animation buff I've always wanted to watch this movie. The animation, aesthetic, and colors are just beautiful! Its very inspiring. However I never had the opportunity to watch it so this review was very interesting!
I do think I would have preferred there being an actual Dragon Ball GT movie myself, but as a Dragon Ball movie in itself, I don't mind it. I prefer it over the first DB movie (adapting the same story kind of).
They should have just made Yamcha connected to the RR in some way. like if he was being used by them or if he was just some lackey that was planning to steal the dragon balls and break away from RR to live a better life.
Or at least save Goku from Murasaki and fight him and defeat him in this version of the story as they never give anything to Yamcha. I don't know why they bother bringing him into the script if they are going to give him the Dragon Ball Super treatment years before Super.
My biggest quibble is Goku doesn't really feel like GOKU in this movie...he's basically Kid Goten and then the Android 8 death moment, as you said, is basically a Gohan scene.
The film knows its audience and there is nothing wrong with that. It isn't against the law for male viewers to get a kick out of random sexy moments in animation. They don't hurt anyone.
What if Dragon Ball began with with the Red Ribbon arc and looked like GT? This. And it's pretty good. I liked it as a kid. And I particularly liked the panty shot. Thanks, Toei.
It’s a very minor thing, but regarding the poll at 20:08, it’s been shown that social media polls like that give much more accurate results if there’s an “I haven’t seen both” option. Path to Ultimate Strength is a movie with a lot more audience knowledge, since it was the last Dragonball movie for many years. It’s likely a lot of people voted for Path to Ultimate Strength simply because it’s the one they knew more about. An “I haven’t seen them both” option would filter out the people who are only voting based on half (or about half) of the information available to them
Ill be the first to admit that seeing this movie when I was younger certainly "awakened" a few things... They really did turn up the manga's more risqué moments to 11...
The movie had issues, but the animation was stunning and made for great AMVs back in the day. I'm a particular fan of how the Wolf Fang Fist looked in this style.
Interesting how this is a movie covering OG DB material, created as a mean of celebrating for the anime's 10th anniversary and it has many trappings of GT surrounding considering the latter had premiered a few weeks earlier. The biggest one is when Goku goes from his classic gi to the GT version pink wristbands and all. It's like GT within the framework of OG DB. They even used the opening theme Dan Dan Kokoro Hikarteku as the ending song of the film. Plus of course you had GT's composer Akhito Tokunaga doing the score, so yet another connection.
It was like they wanted to reboot the series with GT aesthetics so that the film would be a "new beginning" for new fans and then reflect attention and viewers back onto GT as the "Current" iteration of the series. If this film and GT together had been wildly successful I could see a scenario where each of these films could continue to combine and retell major arcs and events of the series until the whole thing was covered. The 2nd movie being a big hodgepodge of meeting Krillin, training for the tournament, introducing Tien and co, but then King Piccolo returning and spoiling the tournament and taking over the final 2/3rds or second half of the film. Introducing Chi Chi as well. 3rd movie about Piccolo Jr and having the tournament finally play out. 4th movie for a big condensed version of the Saiyan arc. 5th and 6th as a two-parter for Namek and Frieza. 7th and 8th as a two-parter for Androids and Cell. 9th and 10th as a two-parter for Buu.
My theory for why retellings of the beginning of Dragon Ball always include Yamcha and introcude Puar and Oolong together regardless of how pointless they are in the end, is due to some misguided assumption of Loyalty to Journey to the West...though that makes even less sense considering how much more useful Sandy tends to be in that story than Yamcha ever is despite getting about as much focus (as in not a lot).
This movie is messy in a lot of ways, mainly how it tries to force the ligh adventure story/tone of early Dragon Ball to the more action-focused style of later Dragon Ball, but I weirdly kinda find it a perfect blueprint to use, if someone ever wanted to try to adapt the franchise into a Hollywood movie again. By combining The Hunt for the Dragon Balls and Red Ribbon arcs, you get smaller (in comparison to other arcs) scale adventure/treasure hunt story, but also have a villain (and therefore action scenes) fitting for a big blockbuster movie. That would make so much more sense to me than starting with an adaptation of the Saiyan arc, which a lot of fans want to see.
That Gt special is really underrated, it would probably be more popular if it wasn't associated with GT and had better english dvd release with high quality resolution.
To be honest I absolutely love this movie! Way more than most other dragon ball films. I love it for it’s 2D animation, the aesthetics, the coloring, the backgrounds, the shading and highlights. And I really don’t agree that the movie doesn't do justice to it’s characters or the story it’s trying to tell. It’s a movie that’s longer then most movies that came before it. And I thought whatever time was spent on it was done rather well. Sure there are some scenes or characters that I think could maybe be fleshed out more, but this is a movie and not an episode series that could be told in multiple episodes so I’m perfectly am fine with the pacing and choices used to tell it’s story and characters. I mabey wouldn’t say it’s my absolute favorite DB movie, but as a standalone movie I think it’s great and easily an 8/10 if your in for a fun experience. Oh and Merry Christmas!
Super 17 was so short, I wonder if that was planned to be a movie and they decided against making a movie that would be serialized with the show...probably not, but Super 17 as a movie is something of an interesting idea.
Hm.. imagine if he was the Antagonist of Fusion Reborn with a Gogeta Vs. Super 17 Fight? Fusion Battle anyone? Anyways jokes aside, I feel there could have been potential for atleast one GT Movie in the making but I guess they really wanted to end it there
My problem with the super 17 saga is that it just rehashed what happened in fusion reborn but worse despite being in a tv series and not a movie, seeing 17 again was nice but making him a villain again was dumb, one thing super did better was giving 17 a role among the other fighters.
@@justinarzola4584 I would say even making 17 the villain itself was not what was bad but how it handled him, he was brainwashed for most of the arc so he was not even himself, it did not expand his character, it took away his character to make him an even more generic villain.
I had the same reaction at 8:45 when I first saw the film. I don't know if i'd say its restraint or if its just flat out indecisive. Personally, I think they should have just done it. I actually found the build up to be fitting and would make for an interesting AU version of Goku's first SSJ transformation. As much as I enjoy the climax of the film, this certainly feels like they didn't take full advantage of the moment they set up rather well.
Merry Christmas MistareFusion and fellow Dragon Ball fans! I wasn't a big fan of this movie, but as always I love hearing more trivia about it and its overall impact to the franchise; especially since I grew up in the time where the west was introduced to GT as a kid and not really understanding things mentioned in Z/GT that referenced the original until I got a little older. It's always a joy watching/listening to your videos any time of the year!
I am interested on what you would feel about the GT special. Its gonna be quite bittersweet since that's probably gonna be the last DBD video ever, and ending it on a special called "Hero's Legacy" feels oddly fitting. At least, I think it will end on that name, I actually have no clue what the original japenese title is now that I think about it, but it remains one of my favourite pieces of DB content...ever imo. Merry Christmas!
I really like this movie honestly. Its fun to see the original story retold with GT's art style, which Im already a big fan of. Its also just a way more convenient option when Im in the mood for Dragon Ball but dont want to commit to rewatching the entire thing
I honestly wonder if the whole Super #17 thing was planned to be "the Dragon Ball GT movie", and then when the show I guess wasn't doing well enough to support that, they just shuffled what they'd designed into a handful of comparatively-cheaper TV episodes, leaving it as very much a Z-movie-style "a strong guy shows up and is a big deal for 5 minutes and there's not much more to the plot than that". But honestly even if that story itself is kinda nothing, it doesn't outstay its welcome and does give us a smoother and more natural start to the evil-dragons story that actually matters.
TANCHA TANCHA TANCHA 💖! Okay now with that out of my system... On this point 20:45, I've often felt much of Dragon Ball's confused state is due to trying to cater to a fanbase at odds with itself. How do you profitably and coherently continue a franchise that many don't want to see move on from certain characters yet many others do? Maybe Pokemon will have a better answer since letting a profiable series just end is unacceptable. Either way I've greatly enjoyed the 10 years of dissecting that endless pursuit even beyond distracting me from my endless depression and look forward to the ones to come. Happy Freeza Day and (almost) 10th anniversary, Mistare!
To add on the many Kame Sen'nins of the DB world, there was also Takkou Ishimori from Advanced Adventure GBA game. He was better known as the voice of Sengoku from One Piece before his passing. Just FYI.
@@MistareFusion Yeah the games had a few replacements that didn't really go anywhere. In between Suzuoki's passing and Midorikawa taking over the role Tenshinhan was played by Mitsuaki Madono (Yanagisawa from Yu Yu Hakusho) and around that same time the elder Kaioshin was played by Isamu Tanonaka (Daddy Eyeboll from Gegege no Kitaro), although the latter not sticking can be explained by him passing away in 2010.
Jheese was briefly voiced by Yasunori Masutani after Kazumi Tanaka passed in a boating accident. He wouldn’t take over permanently though when Daisuke Kishio became the definitive voice from Kai onward. There are tons of examples in the Japanese version alone.
Is every Japanese voice actor that played Kame Sen’nin barring Satō Masaharu just dead?? - Miyauchi died of abdominal varices during the anime Boo arc. - Masuoka Hiroshi died of rectal cancer in 2020. - Aikawa Kinya died of lung cancer in 2015. - Ishimori Takkō died from being incredibly old in 2013. Even Masuoka…man.
@@androidsenpai1462 don’t forget Joji Yanami who briefly voiced Kame Sen'nin during Goku’s match with Chi-Chi during the the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai. The old men just keep dying, as life is bond to do.
This movie is one of the few pieces of DB media I've still never seen. I can still remember almost buying it on DVD back in the day, but there were new episodes of GT to buy instead. I never managed to find a copy again after that.
10:10 "The movie keeps picking up new characters in rapid succession only for them to have nothing else to do after they're introduced." JUST LIKE THE IN THE MANGA AND SHOW!! 10:30 "Then he randomly returns at the eleventh hour to help out in Goku's final battle against Black!!" JUST LIKE THE IN THE MANGA AND SHOW!! 10:38 "That means [The Dragon Team] have nothing to do but stand on the sidelines and watch." JUST LIKE THE IN THE MANGA AND SHOW!!
And those are problems in the original. But very rarely would the manga be telling a single story, introduce a character, then have the character do nothing but sit on the sidelines for the rest of the story arc after one moment. Over the run of a decade-long manga, characters come in and out of focus. While it's unfortunate and could have been handled better, with Toriyama writing without knowing what's going to happen next or constantly refreshing himself on the manga, that's to be expected. But it really shouldn't happen in a single isolated movie.
It’s funny how much Christmas reminds me of your videos Lance. I found your channel during the 23 Tenkaichi video uploads and I remember the first dbz decembers. So now it’s something I look forward to getting a new DB video on Xmas. Thanks for that
My thoughts on the movie are pretty mixed. The animation & visuals look incredible (especially when Goku does the Kamehameha). But on the other hand, them trying to retell the original story while making some changes so it flows better kinda makes the film inconsistent, Also the Aesthetics borrows some much from GT is doesn't quite feel like a movie celebrating its 10th Anniversary. Overall I say it'd a fun watch if you take the movie for what it is.
Happy holidays, Fusion! EDIT: Ignore me talking about this being the last Dissection December, I completely misunderstood something said at the beginning of the video. That's what I get for watching this first thing after waking up xD It's kind of bittersweet to think this is gonna be the last Dragon Ball Dissection December, it's something I've looked forward to every holiday season since I discovered your channel. As for this movie itself, it's one of the few pieces of Dragon Ball media I have never seen, though I've wanted to. If nothing else, it is drop dead gorgeous, and it's wild and pretty awesome seeing the classic characters in GT's artstyle
@@olserknam After rewatching the video, I completely misunderstood some of what he said at the beginning of the video. That's what I get for watching this first thing in the morning xD
Merry Christmas! Never watched this film, so I really can't comment, but trying to mix two story-arcs together is a rather dangerous endeavour, even with a longer runtime.
This movie (and the fact GT Final Bout came out in the states a few years later) always just served to confuse me when I was getting into the series. It uses the GT art style and Goku is a kid so, since we only ever got the Raditz part of Z so far, when is it? I know the Japanese directors didnt care about confusing a kid in America down the stretch, but that was my experience. Art's great tho.
I always do enjoy these Christmas videos from you, thanks for keeping them going all these years, I always look forward to them. Have a Merry Christmas.
Visually this was my favorite movie until Broly. Which is wild considering my dislike of GT’s aesthetic first and foremost. But I think it’s the movie-ness and it’s overall better faith to circa 96 Toriyama art
There's something about this movie that has always rubbed me the wrong way, and it's how it removes any subtlety from the original. And yeah, Dragon Ball isn't exactly Shakespeare, but let me give you an example: in the original manga/anime, Commander Red's Napoleon complex is a sudden unexpected joke. I may be misremembering, but I'm pretty sure it's not even mentioned up until his final moments when he talks about what he actually wants to use the Dragon Balls for. But the GT movie goes out of its way to establish that yes, this guy is tiny and really insecure about it. As far as I remember, there are two or three scenes hammering in on that joke before the reveal of his true motives. It feels way more kid-oriented, as if someone thought they had to beat the children watching over the head with the joke or they'll forget it. Another example is General White's redesign: in the original, he looks pretty unremarkable, like an average action movie villain. But the GT movie redesigns him so that you know that yes, this guy is, in fact, evil! He has a huge nose, a slender face and smokes a cigarette because you gotta hammer in how evil he is. Again, this just feels like the movie is being targeted to a younger demographic and trying to make everything as obvious as possible. And I'm sure there are plenty of examples like this throughout the movie.
Gotta say, I am a fan of introducing Yamcha together with Oolong though lol. Given how Dragon Ball adaptations are known for being painfully slow, especially Z, such economic quick-paced introduction of characters in the same scene is really like a breath of fresh air. And I must admit that I do admire that the originally anticlimactic ending of the Red Ribbon Arc was given some dramatic weight here.
In the manga, there's one joke of Red telling Black to not stand too close to him, so he doesn't draw attention to how much shorter Red is, but that's just one joke told multiple chapters before the reveal, so it's easy to forget.
I think the best order to watch this movie is before Androids 19/20 appear. It retells the RRA stuff with better animation so it fits with the animation of that middle-Z era and it's a good way to remind or teach the audience who those RRA guys are and how Goku destroyed them.
I do enjoy this movie, though I agree entirely. As fanservice, I like seeing all these moments being reimagined with a really nice and different visual style but I cannot deny just how much of a rushed mess it is, so ya, can't really recommend it to newcomers.
5:20-5:29 Really? I haven't noticed that difference in Goku's voice for this movie and GT This is why Masako Nozawa is one of the greatest seiyuus of all time Rest in peace Hiromi Tsuru 😔 21:06-21:22 That quote was very prophetic of what is about to happen to DBGT (and the actual situation of the Dragon Ball franchise).... In a way, The Path of Ultimate Power made the same mistakes DBGT did. It started as a way to bring back the adventure/comedic tone of early Dragon Ball but because it wanted to appeal to everyone (pre DBZ era fans and post DBZ fans) it lost its identity. Remember people, it is never EVER a good idea make a product to appeal everyone in mangas/movies/videogames/shows/etc. You will ended appealing no one.
I really don't know why this wasn't a GT movie to commemorate the next generation of Dragon. You know since that was what they doing with GT at this very moment.
Aikawa is probably the most fitting Kame Sen’nin voice since the late Miyauchi. Part of me wishes he got cast as the character in Kai before his own death in 2015. (Then again, my wishes also include Nakai Kazuya having been cast as Piccolo for Kai and Super, so I guess we can’t ever really get what we want)
After being reminded of this movies structure, I am left imagining a rewrite: Like maybe Yamcha is one of several mercenaries hired as a mercenary to help track down the Dragon Balls. The army could be shrunk down to just Red's personal security forces, hence him needing to hire mercenaries and bandits.
Like what you have said about the previous original dragon ball movies, I've always wondered what would happen. Suppose they didn’t cancel GT and kept continuing in these movies. Would they go the Z route and adapt GT out of whatever they were doing at the time? Or back and re-adapt to the rest of the dragon ball arcs, which had yet to be covered like the tournament arcs and piccolo. It makes me think and honestly hope that even with the flaws of this movie, they do something like this in the future again; it’s interesting. I love rediscovering and interpreting the story in mixed and new ways
Come to think of it, the first tournament arc could have made a great movie. In fact, if you were going to adapt a segment of Dragonball to a one-and-done movie, I think that's the one I'd pick. It's simple and continuous, unlike the two arcs surrounding it, it's free of the continuity burden that would trouble a straight adaptation of most of the middle of Dragonball, and it doesn't have the sheer volume of stuff to cover that a true adaption of the Cell or Buu arcs would have to deal with.
10:38 At this point of Dragon Ball, Roshi is more powerful than Goku. It make little sense he be on the sidelines while he fights Black. He could enter the fray and solve the problem because he is the most powerful character there! Looks like the makers of this movie forgot this detail...
I was about to be sad during the Yamcha rant that he didn't say "Poor dolt" but he surprised me by doing just that and bringing the rest of the jobbers into it!
Out of curiosity do you plan to one day talk about Dragon Ball Evolution? Like everyone knows it sucks but it be fun to see your analysis on why it sucks.
when you do GTs actual movie you should save it and do it with the epilogue because yes GT does have a proper movie that released after the baby arc but its set 100 years int eh future and sets up the epilogue so yea i say break your rule just this once
GT didn't have a proper movie but it did have a tv special called a heros legacy that was about pan and Goku's descendant.Funimation marketed it as a movie in the us.
I never heard about this movie when it came out. Then this one time I saw it on a national channel for a bit. I didn't know what it was but I did notice that it was Dragon Ball's story (sort of) but different. For years, I never bothered to look it up. At one point I read about DBZ Kai and thought it was that. Until I got back to researching the series years after, I remembered it but didn't really know its name or that it was a movie.
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@@AnAverageGoblin No, I think they picked the wrong parts: I.e. The big 2nd act battle should have been Red Ribbon attacking The Ox-King's Fortress, although, that's a completely different story.
It's not. Due to feedback, I changed a couple of lines so that my points were (hopefully) a bit clearer. The pre-release version is linked to in the description if you want to see it.
Black's original design is great, black characters should allowed to have traits every other random non-black character gets. The issue was his original name, but I think it's hilarious that Toriyama put that pun unprovoked.
It is really nice looking. But I am curious. Would a movie version of one arc from the Z era work? A 2 hour movie of Namek Saga? Try to shorten it a little, maybe scale down characters more so that Goku dose´t have to be out of commission 2 times to reach Friezzas level. A nice what if but maybe good they did´t do that. More fun to see this based in young Dragonball era. I have seen this movie but over 10 years ago so I don´t remember much, it is pretty but messy.
Saiyan arc would probably be fairly easy to adapt into a movie, since its plot is relatively straightforward and with Vegeta and Nappa there are only two major villains (Raditz being kinda just an introductery villain) who would need ton of screen-time to be both effective threats and have satisfying fight scenes. As you said, Freeza/Namek saga could in theory be simplified into a movie, with things like Ginuy Force (I know they are fan-favorites, but in this situation they would take too much time) and some of Freeza's transformations cut out. Cell and Buu, on the other hand, have so many characters, new transformations and plot-turns that it would be by far more challenging to adapt them into movie. At least into movies that aren't longer than 50-80 minutes the original patch of Dragon Ball movies were.
@@SpedeVesku Even the Cell arc I could see working as a movie, but the Buu arc, yikes, seeing it all continuously would really highlight the many "Wait, so was all we were doing totally pointless?" moments. That one would take some significant restructuring, I think...
I wonder if this film was ever intended to launch a series of "film adaptations" of the story. You have to think that hypothetically this could have birthed 10+ annual films that, piece by piece, retold all of the biggest and best highlights of the entire series but with Film-level animation. Finding ways to condense, combine and retell the most crucial arcs where possible.
Remember, at this point Pilaf and co never returned. So combining the "first hunt for the Dragon Balls" with the next major adversary like the Red Ribbon army made a lot of sense, as the Red Ribbon Army is crucial for future events.
The next film might surely have been an "All about the tournament" movie where we would have been introduced to Krillin, Tien, etc
Or it might have even had the tournament be "crashed" by the arrival of King Piccolo, and make the final half or 2/3rds of that movie a retelling of the King Piccolo arc.
Then the 3rd film, to complete a Dragon Ball "trilogy" would easily have been about Piccolo Jr and winning the tournament.
In "film world" I could see Raditz not existing at all, and having 1 film dedicated to the Saiyan arc. Goku's death could come at the hands of Vegeta.
Then you have Goku and Piccolo going to King Kai's world together, learning and training together(Goku could just excel far beyond Piccolo) while the ENTIRE gang goes to Namek, including Gohan, Krilling, Bulma, Yamcha, Tien, etc
So then the Namek and Frieza arcs/sections become a sort of two-part "cliffhanger ending" type of film.
So now you have had 3 films for original Dragon Ball, and 3 films for the Saiyan-Namek-Frieza arc. Then you do another sort of "two part" film arc for the Androids and Cell Arc. Perhaps even a unique version with no time travel or future trunks. Then another "two film arc" for the Buu Saga.
Then you would have a nice even 10 films that would tell the sort of condensed and streamlined version of the entire Dragon Ball Manga.
It COULD have been pretty darn cool, something to initiate new fans into the mythos and to really shake out all of the fat of the story and tell the whole thing in a really cinematic, streamlined way.
Okay this is late but yeah I could see that kinda doing what the ultimate universe was for marvel and making a more cinematic retelling of dragon ball
Not only Bluma's hair, but did you notice how Puar's paws were colored?
Another thing that feels odd about this movie is being an adventure story that doesn't enter a single town with civilians to save. It's all wild expanses and Red Ribbon strongholds!
Not only Puar's paws, but his mouth too! His tongue is always white in the anime for some reason.
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This is by far the prettiest movie when it comes to art syle and animation, i love how bulma looks in here, i like most of the changes, i wish we got more movies with this quality,its one of my favorites.
As an animation buff I've always wanted to watch this movie. The animation, aesthetic, and colors are just beautiful! Its very inspiring. However I never had the opportunity to watch it so this review was very interesting!
I do think I would have preferred there being an actual Dragon Ball GT movie myself, but as a Dragon Ball movie in itself, I don't mind it. I prefer it over the first DB movie (adapting the same story kind of).
I mean...GT has a movie/special of its own.
@@blur7491 I mean like something in the present of Dragon Ball GT. This movie is in the past, and the special is in the distant future.
A movie w ssj4 . Would have been cool
They should have just made Yamcha connected to the RR in some way. like if he was being used by them or if he was just some lackey that was planning to steal the dragon balls and break away from RR to live a better life.
A hired merc like Tao Pai Pai
That could've been nice. Yamcha is an RR soldier who abandons his duties to save a pretty young girl (Bulma) because he's a horn dog.
Or at least save Goku from Murasaki and fight him and defeat him in this version of the story as they never give anything to Yamcha.
I don't know why they bother bringing him into the script if they are going to give him the Dragon Ball Super treatment years before Super.
@@loliH9 Honestly, Yamcha vs. Murasaki is a fight that should’ve been in the original Red Ribbon arc.
My biggest quibble is Goku doesn't really feel like GOKU in this movie...he's basically Kid Goten and then the Android 8 death moment, as you said, is basically a Gohan scene.
Ok imma be honest, as a kid, I did in fact appreciate that random panty shot the film gave us.
The film knows its audience and there is nothing wrong with that. It isn't against the law for male viewers to get a kick out of random sexy moments in animation. They don't hurt anyone.
What if Dragon Ball began with with the Red Ribbon arc and looked like GT? This. And it's pretty good. I liked it as a kid. And I particularly liked the panty shot. Thanks, Toei.
Agreed on all counts lol
Based panty shots are always welcome
It’s a very minor thing, but regarding the poll at 20:08, it’s been shown that social media polls like that give much more accurate results if there’s an “I haven’t seen both” option. Path to Ultimate Strength is a movie with a lot more audience knowledge, since it was the last Dragonball movie for many years. It’s likely a lot of people voted for Path to Ultimate Strength simply because it’s the one they knew more about.
An “I haven’t seen them both” option would filter out the people who are only voting based on half (or about half) of the information available to them
Ill be the first to admit that seeing this movie when I was younger certainly "awakened" a few things... They really did turn up the manga's more risqué moments to 11...
The movie had issues, but the animation was stunning and made for great AMVs back in the day. I'm a particular fan of how the Wolf Fang Fist looked in this style.
Interesting how this is a movie covering OG DB material, created as a mean of celebrating for the anime's 10th anniversary and it has many trappings of GT surrounding considering the latter had premiered a few weeks earlier.
The biggest one is when Goku goes from his classic gi to the GT version pink wristbands and all. It's like GT within the framework of OG DB. They even used the opening theme Dan Dan Kokoro Hikarteku as the ending song of the film. Plus of course you had GT's composer Akhito Tokunaga doing the score, so yet another connection.
It was like they wanted to reboot the series with GT aesthetics so that the film would be a "new beginning" for new fans and then reflect attention and viewers back onto GT as the "Current" iteration of the series.
If this film and GT together had been wildly successful I could see a scenario where each of these films could continue to combine and retell major arcs and events of the series until the whole thing was covered.
The 2nd movie being a big hodgepodge of meeting Krillin, training for the tournament, introducing Tien and co, but then King Piccolo returning and spoiling the tournament and taking over the final 2/3rds or second half of the film. Introducing Chi Chi as well.
3rd movie about Piccolo Jr and having the tournament finally play out.
4th movie for a big condensed version of the Saiyan arc. 5th and 6th as a two-parter for Namek and Frieza. 7th and 8th as a two-parter for Androids and Cell. 9th and 10th as a two-parter for Buu.
This movie was my introduction to Dragon Ball. So I will always be grateful to it for that
That’s a great introduction, generally speaking
Hey, that's great. My first DB movie (and one of the first media to expose me to the plot of the series) was Evolution of all things.
@@LeRodzyou poor soul
@@someguy2315 yeah it really was I think it's such a great movie in general
@@LeRodz Yeah I get that bro
My theory for why retellings of the beginning of Dragon Ball always include Yamcha and introcude Puar and Oolong together regardless of how pointless they are in the end, is due to some misguided assumption of Loyalty to Journey to the West...though that makes even less sense considering how much more useful Sandy tends to be in that story than Yamcha ever is despite getting about as much focus (as in not a lot).
This movie is messy in a lot of ways, mainly how it tries to force the ligh adventure story/tone of early Dragon Ball to the more action-focused style of later Dragon Ball, but I weirdly kinda find it a perfect blueprint to use, if someone ever wanted to try to adapt the franchise into a Hollywood movie again. By combining The Hunt for the Dragon Balls and Red Ribbon arcs, you get smaller (in comparison to other arcs) scale adventure/treasure hunt story, but also have a villain (and therefore action scenes) fitting for a big blockbuster movie. That would make so much more sense to me than starting with an adaptation of the Saiyan arc, which a lot of fans want to see.
Unfortunately "A LOT" of People didn't watch the early Arcs of Dragonball, and feel no need to acknowledge it.
Cant wait for the GT special. That one really is untalked about.
That Gt special is really underrated, it would probably be more popular if it wasn't associated with GT and had better english dvd release with high quality resolution.
It's one of the best stories Dragon Ball has to offer, no cap.
To be honest I absolutely love this movie! Way more than most other dragon ball films.
I love it for it’s 2D animation, the aesthetics, the coloring, the backgrounds, the shading and highlights.
And I really don’t agree that the movie doesn't do justice to it’s characters or the story it’s trying to tell. It’s a movie that’s longer then most movies that came before it. And I thought whatever time was spent on it was done rather well. Sure there are some scenes or characters that I think could maybe be fleshed out more, but this is a movie and not an episode series that could be told in multiple episodes so I’m perfectly am fine with the pacing and choices used to tell it’s story and characters. I mabey wouldn’t say it’s my absolute favorite DB movie, but as a standalone movie I think it’s great and easily an 8/10 if your in for a fun experience.
Oh and Merry Christmas!
I would also argue in cases of Staff Officer Black & Eighter, that they arguably just as developed as their original incarnations, if not more.
Super 17 was so short, I wonder if that was planned to be a movie and they decided against making a movie that would be serialized with the show...probably not, but Super 17 as a movie is something of an interesting idea.
Maybe, but it seems atypical for a movie to keep Goku alive yet locked up until the last minute.
Hm.. imagine if he was the Antagonist of Fusion Reborn with a Gogeta Vs. Super 17 Fight? Fusion Battle anyone? Anyways jokes aside, I feel there could have been potential for atleast one GT Movie in the making but I guess they really wanted to end it there
My problem with the super 17 saga is that it just rehashed what happened in fusion reborn but worse despite being in a tv series and not a movie, seeing 17 again was nice but making him a villain again was dumb, one thing super did better was giving 17 a role among the other fighters.
@@justinarzola4584 I would say even making 17 the villain itself was not what was bad but how it handled him, he was brainwashed for most of the arc so he was not even himself, it did not expand his character, it took away his character to make him an even more generic villain.
I had the same reaction at 8:45 when I first saw the film. I don't know if i'd say its restraint or if its just flat out indecisive. Personally, I think they should have just done it. I actually found the build up to be fitting and would make for an interesting AU version of Goku's first SSJ transformation. As much as I enjoy the climax of the film, this certainly feels like they didn't take full advantage of the moment they set up rather well.
Late but i agree this is a stand alone film and it would have been a nice way to set itself apart from the main series
Merry Christmas MistareFusion and fellow Dragon Ball fans! I wasn't a big fan of this movie, but as always I love hearing more trivia about it and its overall impact to the franchise; especially since I grew up in the time where the west was introduced to GT as a kid and not really understanding things mentioned in Z/GT that referenced the original until I got a little older.
It's always a joy watching/listening to your videos any time of the year!
I am interested on what you would feel about the GT special. Its gonna be quite bittersweet since that's probably gonna be the last DBD video ever, and ending it on a special called "Hero's Legacy" feels oddly fitting. At least, I think it will end on that name, I actually have no clue what the original japenese title is now that I think about it, but it remains one of my favourite pieces of DB content...ever imo.
Merry Christmas!
I'm pretty sure that special came out between the baby and super 17 arc. So it won't be the last DBD
Also super is a thing, so I don't think it will be the last dbd
It's a shame Hero's Legacy is in such poor quality. We need a good release of that special.
Japanese name is "Goku Side Story! The Proof of His Courage is the Four-Star Ball"
@@franciscoarzapalozapata4610Not to mention in-between is Evolution, that will definitely be fun to talk about and roast.
I really like this movie honestly. Its fun to see the original story retold with GT's art style, which Im already a big fan of. Its also just a way more convenient option when Im in the mood for Dragon Ball but dont want to commit to rewatching the entire thing
Feels like the end of an era!
I honestly wonder if the whole Super #17 thing was planned to be "the Dragon Ball GT movie", and then when the show I guess wasn't doing well enough to support that, they just shuffled what they'd designed into a handful of comparatively-cheaper TV episodes, leaving it as very much a Z-movie-style "a strong guy shows up and is a big deal for 5 minutes and there's not much more to the plot than that". But honestly even if that story itself is kinda nothing, it doesn't outstay its welcome and does give us a smoother and more natural start to the evil-dragons story that actually matters.
C'mon Lance! Say the line!
"Poor dolts."
YAAAY!
Merry Christmas to everyone
happy Freeza Day!
Now this is a great Christmas gift!
Path to power was always my favorite of the og dragon ball movies.
Better than the first 3 og db films.
TANCHA TANCHA TANCHA 💖! Okay now with that out of my system...
On this point 20:45, I've often felt much of Dragon Ball's confused state is due to trying to cater to a fanbase at odds with itself. How do you profitably and coherently continue a franchise that many don't want to see move on from certain characters yet many others do? Maybe Pokemon will have a better answer since letting a profiable series just end is unacceptable.
Either way I've greatly enjoyed the 10 years of dissecting that endless pursuit even beyond distracting me from my endless depression and look forward to the ones to come. Happy Freeza Day and (almost) 10th anniversary, Mistare!
i was once told the animation director or someone admitted to have had a crush on bulma when he was younger, hence the over the top fanservice.
Happy Freeza Day! 🎁
YES! A HOLIDAY POOR DOLTS JOKE! IT IS TRULY A CHRISTMAS MIRACLE!
Bulma is so sexy in this movie though
She really is, especially her casual look wearing that Capsule Corp cap 😍
…She’s 16.
To add on the many Kame Sen'nins of the DB world, there was also Takkou Ishimori from Advanced Adventure GBA game. He was better known as the voice of Sengoku from One Piece before his passing. Just FYI.
Thanks! I didn't know that!
@@MistareFusion Yeah the games had a few replacements that didn't really go anywhere. In between Suzuoki's passing and Midorikawa taking over the role Tenshinhan was played by Mitsuaki Madono (Yanagisawa from Yu Yu Hakusho) and around that same time the elder Kaioshin was played by Isamu Tanonaka (Daddy Eyeboll from Gegege no Kitaro), although the latter not sticking can be explained by him passing away in 2010.
Jheese was briefly voiced by Yasunori Masutani after Kazumi Tanaka passed in a boating accident. He wouldn’t take over permanently though when Daisuke Kishio became the definitive voice from Kai onward. There are tons of examples in the Japanese version alone.
Is every Japanese voice actor that played Kame Sen’nin barring Satō Masaharu just dead??
- Miyauchi died of abdominal varices during the anime Boo arc.
- Masuoka Hiroshi died of rectal cancer in 2020.
- Aikawa Kinya died of lung cancer in 2015.
- Ishimori Takkō died from being incredibly old in 2013.
Even Masuoka…man.
@@androidsenpai1462 don’t forget Joji Yanami who briefly voiced Kame Sen'nin during Goku’s match with Chi-Chi during the the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai. The old men just keep dying, as life is bond to do.
This movie is one of the few pieces of DB media I've still never seen. I can still remember almost buying it on DVD back in the day, but there were new episodes of GT to buy instead. I never managed to find a copy again after that.
I wonder how they could have even done a GT movie a by that point they only had 4 episodes to go by.
Merry Christmas, Lance. Thanks for another great episode!
Did this movie get a digital remaster or something? Because the footage in Phelous's review looked a lot brighter and crisper.
I’ve been waiting YEARSSS FOR THIS ONE
10:10 "The movie keeps picking up new characters in rapid succession only for them to have nothing else to do after they're introduced." JUST LIKE THE IN THE MANGA AND SHOW!!
10:30 "Then he randomly returns at the eleventh hour to help out in Goku's final battle against Black!!" JUST LIKE THE IN THE MANGA AND SHOW!!
10:38 "That means [The Dragon Team] have nothing to do but stand on the sidelines and watch." JUST LIKE THE IN THE MANGA AND SHOW!!
I agree about the first and third parts, but I'm pretty sure 8 never came to help Goku during the battle against Black in the original.
And those are problems in the original. But very rarely would the manga be telling a single story, introduce a character, then have the character do nothing but sit on the sidelines for the rest of the story arc after one moment.
Over the run of a decade-long manga, characters come in and out of focus. While it's unfortunate and could have been handled better, with Toriyama writing without knowing what's going to happen next or constantly refreshing himself on the manga, that's to be expected. But it really shouldn't happen in a single isolated movie.
Merry aChristmas, Lance! I'm grateful to have spent another year enjoying your excellent content. Thank you!
It looks so perfect in every way,i wished the entire manga was adapted like this
It’s funny how much Christmas reminds me of your videos Lance. I found your channel during the 23 Tenkaichi video uploads and I remember the first dbz decembers. So now it’s something I look forward to getting a new DB video on Xmas. Thanks for that
I hope you yourself have a happy holiday!
Merry Christmas!
Really happy seeing this movie got a full episode here! It's always been a special movie for me and one with so much charm I think
My thoughts on the movie are pretty mixed. The animation & visuals look incredible (especially when Goku does the Kamehameha). But on the other hand, them trying to retell the original story while making some changes so it flows better kinda makes the film inconsistent, Also the Aesthetics borrows some much from GT is doesn't quite feel like a movie celebrating its 10th Anniversary. Overall I say it'd a fun watch if you take the movie for what it is.
Absolutely loved Android 8's theme in this movie.
I liked the accordion waltz version for the snowball fight!
@@BagOfMagicFood That was a good rendition. Although, if they ever did a Winnie the Pooh anime, I could hear the regular version as Eeyore's Theme.
Happy holidays, Fusion!
EDIT: Ignore me talking about this being the last Dissection December, I completely misunderstood something said at the beginning of the video. That's what I get for watching this first thing after waking up xD
It's kind of bittersweet to think this is gonna be the last Dragon Ball Dissection December, it's something I've looked forward to every holiday season since I discovered your channel.
As for this movie itself, it's one of the few pieces of Dragon Ball media I have never seen, though I've wanted to. If nothing else, it is drop dead gorgeous, and it's wild and pretty awesome seeing the classic characters in GT's artstyle
When does Lance say it's gonna be the last DBD December?
@@olserknam After rewatching the video, I completely misunderstood some of what he said at the beginning of the video. That's what I get for watching this first thing in the morning xD
Somehow never knew this one existed. But yeah seeing the original designs in the GT 90's DB style is pretty interesting. Might check it out
Merry Christmas!
Never watched this film, so I really can't comment, but trying to mix two story-arcs together is a rather dangerous endeavour, even with a longer runtime.
This movie (and the fact GT Final Bout came out in the states a few years later) always just served to confuse me when I was getting into the series. It uses the GT art style and Goku is a kid so, since we only ever got the Raditz part of Z so far, when is it? I know the Japanese directors didnt care about confusing a kid in America down the stretch, but that was my experience. Art's great tho.
I always do enjoy these Christmas videos from you, thanks for keeping them going all these years, I always look forward to them. Have a Merry Christmas.
It’s officially been one year since I started watching dragon ball dissection
I saw this movie a few days ago for the first time to prepare for the Review.
I wasnt impressed, but it was cute. I enjoy the fight with Black.
Usually don't have a problem with fanservice, and it's probably the least of the film's issues lol.
Visually this was my favorite movie until Broly. Which is wild considering my dislike of GT’s aesthetic first and foremost. But I think it’s the movie-ness and it’s overall better faith to circa 96 Toriyama art
Personally, I think The Path to POWER is pretty decent.
I was surprised by the fact that Tokunaga, known for early 90s tokusatsu soundtracks, did this. Merry Christmas, Lance.
There's something about this movie that has always rubbed me the wrong way, and it's how it removes any subtlety from the original. And yeah, Dragon Ball isn't exactly Shakespeare, but let me give you an example: in the original manga/anime, Commander Red's Napoleon complex is a sudden unexpected joke. I may be misremembering, but I'm pretty sure it's not even mentioned up until his final moments when he talks about what he actually wants to use the Dragon Balls for. But the GT movie goes out of its way to establish that yes, this guy is tiny and really insecure about it. As far as I remember, there are two or three scenes hammering in on that joke before the reveal of his true motives. It feels way more kid-oriented, as if someone thought they had to beat the children watching over the head with the joke or they'll forget it. Another example is General White's redesign: in the original, he looks pretty unremarkable, like an average action movie villain. But the GT movie redesigns him so that you know that yes, this guy is, in fact, evil! He has a huge nose, a slender face and smokes a cigarette because you gotta hammer in how evil he is. Again, this just feels like the movie is being targeted to a younger demographic and trying to make everything as obvious as possible. And I'm sure there are plenty of examples like this throughout the movie.
Gotta say, I am a fan of introducing Yamcha together with Oolong though lol. Given how Dragon Ball adaptations are known for being painfully slow, especially Z, such economic quick-paced introduction of characters in the same scene is really like a breath of fresh air.
And I must admit that I do admire that the originally anticlimactic ending of the Red Ribbon Arc was given some dramatic weight here.
In the manga, there's one joke of Red telling Black to not stand too close to him, so he doesn't draw attention to how much shorter Red is, but that's just one joke told multiple chapters before the reveal, so it's easy to forget.
You should put this on the Movies and Specials playlist.
Merry Christmas everyone
Don't get to see my family for Christmas so this will do
I think the best order to watch this movie is before Androids 19/20 appear. It retells the RRA stuff with better animation so it fits with the animation of that middle-Z era and it's a good way to remind or teach the audience who those RRA guys are and how Goku destroyed them.
Hey, they missed an opportunity to plant Dr. Gero somewhere in this movie!
@@BagOfMagicFoodThat would have been neat admittedly.
I have fond memories of this movie. I used to own it as a kid on DVD, I liked to rewind the lewd scenes of Bulma.
I do enjoy this movie, though I agree entirely. As fanservice, I like seeing all these moments being reimagined with a really nice and different visual style but I cannot deny just how much of a rushed mess it is, so ya, can't really recommend it to newcomers.
as a kid, watching this movie was awesome but CONFUSING 🎉
5:20-5:29 Really? I haven't noticed that difference in Goku's voice for this movie and GT
This is why Masako Nozawa is one of the greatest seiyuus of all time
Rest in peace Hiromi Tsuru 😔
21:06-21:22 That quote was very prophetic of what is about to happen to DBGT (and the actual situation of the Dragon Ball franchise)....
In a way, The Path of Ultimate Power made the same mistakes DBGT did.
It started as a way to bring back the adventure/comedic tone of early Dragon Ball but because it wanted to appeal to everyone (pre DBZ era fans and post DBZ fans) it lost its identity.
Remember people, it is never EVER a good idea make a product to appeal everyone in mangas/movies/videogames/shows/etc.
You will ended appealing no one.
Merry Frieza Day
There is no I in Freeza.
@@crystalfire7x There's also no such thing as Freeza Day.
There's no I in Team Freeza; we work together!
I really don't know why this wasn't a GT movie to commemorate the next generation of Dragon. You know since that was what they doing with GT at this very moment.
Merry Christmas, MistareFusion!
Aikawa is probably the most fitting Kame Sen’nin voice since the late Miyauchi. Part of me wishes he got cast as the character in Kai before his own death in 2015.
(Then again, my wishes also include Nakai Kazuya having been cast as Piccolo for Kai and Super, so I guess we can’t ever really get what we want)
After being reminded of this movies structure, I am left imagining a rewrite: Like maybe Yamcha is one of several mercenaries hired as a mercenary to help track down the Dragon Balls. The army could be shrunk down to just Red's personal security forces, hence him needing to hire mercenaries and bandits.
You know there is a actual dragon ball gt movie all about goku Jr looking for the dragon balls to help his grandma pan very underrated
Underrated, yes. Movie, no. It’s an episode of the show.
This movie was underrated and This is the best Kid Goku gi still
Like what you have said about the previous original dragon ball movies, I've always wondered what would happen. Suppose they didn’t cancel GT and kept continuing in these movies. Would they go the Z route and adapt GT out of whatever they were doing at the time? Or back and re-adapt to the rest of the dragon ball arcs, which had yet to be covered like the tournament arcs and piccolo. It makes me think and honestly hope that even with the flaws of this movie, they do something like this in the future again; it’s interesting. I love rediscovering and interpreting the story in mixed and new ways
Come to think of it, the first tournament arc could have made a great movie. In fact, if you were going to adapt a segment of Dragonball to a one-and-done movie, I think that's the one I'd pick. It's simple and continuous, unlike the two arcs surrounding it, it's free of the continuity burden that would trouble a straight adaptation of most of the middle of Dragonball, and it doesn't have the sheer volume of stuff to cover that a true adaption of the Cell or Buu arcs would have to deal with.
@@gazeboist4535 And this is why the 21st Tournament is so good!
Happy holidays to you lance
Hinestly I kinda enjoyed how it didn't seem to care it was clearly gt era
10:38 At this point of Dragon Ball, Roshi is more powerful than Goku. It make little sense he be on the sidelines while he fights Black. He could enter the fray and solve the problem because he is the most powerful character there!
Looks like the makers of this movie forgot this detail...
Or purposefully changed this narrative to fit the movie.
I was about to be sad during the Yamcha rant that he didn't say "Poor dolt" but he surprised me by doing just that and bringing the rest of the jobbers into it!
people choosing this movie against the first DB movie by a large margin is insane.
Out of curiosity do you plan to one day talk about Dragon Ball Evolution? Like everyone knows it sucks but it be fun to see your analysis on why it sucks.
Like, I know it's a typical Hollywood adaptation that's ashamed of being the thing that it is, but still!
Octaviooooo
I heard Android 8/ Eighter/Hacchan be called that before. Which language calls him Octavio?
@@R0-83-RTThe Mexican dub did.
I've always very much loved this movie. It's honestly one of my favorites of the entire franchise.
when you do GTs actual movie you should save it and do it with the epilogue
because yes GT does have a proper movie that released after the baby arc but its set 100 years int eh future and sets up the epilogue
so yea i say break your rule just this once
GT didn't have a proper movie but it did have a tv special called a heros legacy that was about pan and Goku's descendant.Funimation marketed it as a movie in the us.
Merry Christmas Lance!
I never heard about this movie when it came out. Then this one time I saw it on a national channel for a bit. I didn't know what it was but I did notice that it was Dragon Ball's story (sort of) but different. For years, I never bothered to look it up. At one point I read about DBZ Kai and thought it was that. Until I got back to researching the series years after, I remembered it but didn't really know its name or that it was a movie.
Merry Christmas!
20:55 you're forgetting Goku Gaiden, which was a GT movie.
TV special
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Seriously, sometimes i end up pissed off because i can't like it again after watching it, fix that youtube
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Hero's Legacy? After Baby?
To me, it makes a lot of sense to combine The 1st and the 3rd arcs: They're both about looking for the dragon balls.
unfortunately they didn't do much to change the flow of the story to match it
@@AnAverageGoblin No, I think they picked the wrong parts: I.e. The big 2nd act battle should have been Red Ribbon attacking The Ox-King's Fortress, although, that's a completely different story.
Arcs, not arches.
Wait, this is not the same video that was linked to the patreons right?
It's not. Due to feedback, I changed a couple of lines so that my points were (hopefully) a bit clearer. The pre-release version is linked to in the description if you want to see it.
Black's original design is great, black characters should allowed to have traits every other random non-black character gets.
The issue was his original name, but I think it's hilarious that Toriyama put that pun unprovoked.
This movie should've been focused more on Emperor Pilaf Saga instead of mixing it up with the Red Ribbon.
An adaption of your favourite saga
Ok?
Merry Christmas.
It is really nice looking. But I am curious. Would a movie version of one arc from the Z era work? A 2 hour movie of Namek Saga? Try to shorten it a little, maybe scale down characters more so that Goku dose´t have to be out of commission 2 times to reach Friezzas level. A nice what if but maybe good they did´t do that. More fun to see this based in young Dragonball era.
I have seen this movie but over 10 years ago so I don´t remember much, it is pretty but messy.
Saiyan arc would probably be fairly easy to adapt into a movie, since its plot is relatively straightforward and with Vegeta and Nappa there are only two major villains (Raditz being kinda just an introductery villain) who would need ton of screen-time to be both effective threats and have satisfying fight scenes.
As you said, Freeza/Namek saga could in theory be simplified into a movie, with things like Ginuy Force (I know they are fan-favorites, but in this situation they would take too much time) and some of Freeza's transformations cut out.
Cell and Buu, on the other hand, have so many characters, new transformations and plot-turns that it would be by far more challenging to adapt them into movie. At least into movies that aren't longer than 50-80 minutes the original patch of Dragon Ball movies were.
@@SpedeVesku Even the Cell arc I could see working as a movie, but the Buu arc, yikes, seeing it all continuously would really highlight the many "Wait, so was all we were doing totally pointless?" moments. That one would take some significant restructuring, I think...
Hey, what about the one with Goku Jr? Where's that? Huh? That happened... or was that a special? I always thought it was a movie.
Wait doesnt A Hero's Legacy count as a movie for 1997?
What about Dragon Ball GT: A Hero’s Legacy? That’s like a TV Special movie.
Well damn now I'm just down