Earlier this week I heard Ty Seidule on Civil War Talk Radio say "treason is treason" and everyone that fought for CSA was guilty. Cynthia, so refreshing to hear your perspective and the back story. Looking forward to reading your book. Excellent presentation.
You are wrong within 1 minute. The south didn't secede because they feared Lincoln because "they were worried this would put slavery on the path to ultimate extinction." They knew slavery was on the way out. They just wanted to determine their own fate, laws, and taxes and therefore how and when it would be eliminated. The north was in complete control of the south through the legislature, and other institutions, and was imposing their rule on the south, oppressively. And they were hypocritical. They proved themselves to be not of the same interest, and ultimately forced the south to secede in their policies and general attitude toward them.
During The Convention of 1787 Gouverneur Morris that was in charge of the committee on style changed the preamble to the Constitution from "We the people of...(each state was enumerated and identified) to "We the people of the United States". This small change that is described within the Federalist Papers describes the compact between Republics that was formed with the States which could be revoked. O'Connor leaned heavily upon the study of Alfred T. Bledsoe who spent the Civil War studying the Constitution and the origin of each word within the Constitution and origins with the only other copy of it in England. The doctrine of secession was taught within West Point and other US law colleges up to the Civil War. Secession was decided in 1865 by the point of a bayonet and not in a court of law. FWIW, Nicoletti made an incorrect statement about the 11 Confederate states. NC, Tennessee, and Virginia did not secede until Lincoln called for troops to invade the South.
Just one problem: the Constitution is an international compact among separate nations, and did not unite them together as a single nation. So it creates an international union.
Ad baculum vs ad verecundiam is a choice between two informal fallacies. (Death penalty one court constitutional then another unconstitutional then later constitutional, ipse dixit "law"?).
Of all the battles fought during the civil war, 383 were fought on southern soil, 41 were fought on northern soil, who was the aggressor? The Confederacy did not want to take over, subvert or attack the north, they wanted to be left alone. The north invaded year after year and finally started attacking the civilian population with sherman's march to the sea. On the issue of slavery only 10% of Confederates owned slaves. No MAN would fight for 4 years for others slaves, it was because the north kept invading the south. Who paid the majority of the federal budget? you would be surprised when you look it up. All this goes to the issue of "Did the south commit treason"
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Earlier this week I heard Ty Seidule on Civil War Talk Radio say "treason is treason" and everyone that fought for CSA was guilty. Cynthia, so refreshing to hear your perspective and the back story. Looking forward to reading your book. Excellent presentation.
Had 2 special counsels who resigned in the process saying that they couldnt win.
So secession was Not illegal
You are wrong within 1 minute. The south didn't secede because they feared Lincoln because "they were worried this would put slavery on the path to ultimate extinction." They knew slavery was on the way out. They just wanted to determine their own fate, laws, and taxes and therefore how and when it would be eliminated. The north was in complete control of the south through the legislature, and other institutions, and was imposing their rule on the south, oppressively. And they were hypocritical. They proved themselves to be not of the same interest, and ultimately forced the south to secede in their policies and general attitude toward them.
I would simply propose prior to 1861 it was these United States, after the war the United States.
During The Convention of 1787 Gouverneur Morris that was in charge of the committee on style changed the preamble to the Constitution from "We the people of...(each state was enumerated and identified) to "We the people of the United States". This small change that is described within the Federalist Papers describes the compact between Republics that was formed with the States which could be revoked. O'Connor leaned heavily upon the study of Alfred T. Bledsoe who spent the Civil War studying the Constitution and the origin of each word within the Constitution and origins with the only other copy of it in England. The doctrine of secession was taught within West Point and other US law colleges up to the Civil War. Secession was decided in 1865 by the point of a bayonet and not in a court of law. FWIW, Nicoletti made an incorrect statement about the 11 Confederate states. NC, Tennessee, and Virginia did not secede until Lincoln called for troops to invade the South.
Just one problem: the Constitution is an international compact among separate nations, and did not unite them together as a single nation.
So it creates an international union.
Ad baculum vs ad verecundiam is a choice between two informal fallacies. (Death penalty one court constitutional then another unconstitutional then later constitutional, ipse dixit "law"?).
Of all the battles fought during the civil war, 383 were fought on southern soil, 41 were fought on northern soil, who was the aggressor? The Confederacy did not want to take over, subvert or attack the north, they wanted to be left alone. The north invaded year after year and finally started attacking the civilian population with sherman's march to the sea. On the issue of slavery only 10% of Confederates owned slaves. No MAN would fight for 4 years for others slaves, it was because the north kept invading the south. Who paid the majority of the federal budget? you would be surprised when you look it up. All this goes to the issue of "Did the south commit treason"