I could never imagine it being that his performance as Batman was so awful. He is a great actor. Just not a great Batman. His performance is so awful as Batman that he makes the cheesy Superfriends version look great.
My problem with Batgirl being Alfred’s niece is that it gives me a thought of a girl from a private school instead of a public school. She doesn’t have the training that a police commissioner daughter would have. Made her not believable as Batgirl. She only Batgirl because she is related to Alfred. To quote Deadpool “that is just lazy writing.”
I don’t dislike Robin’s suit in this film, but it really makes him look like he’s just Nightwing with a cape (which I guess is technically true, but it’s weird.)
Val had the best jaw line for Batman George almost plays the perfect live action Bruce Wayne without trying or being in a Batman movie yet the actual best Batman in live action was the first not saying that the newer Batman actors didn't work for me just how Michael Keaton pretty much squashed any chance someone actually nearly doing 1 to 1 representation of the source material better is beyond comprehensive thought
Clooney's Bruce Wayne is straight off the comic book. But he was miscast here. The script was bad, the plot was bad, This had more of a 66 Batman feel. Chris O'Donnell was irritating, Thurman, Arnie, camped it up.
We need to stop the "dick was completely perfect jason was the rebellious one" take. While it's true he started that way, Dick did start to gain more and more of his own independence, even dropping out of college to spite Bruce. Later adaptations portray him as someone who does act up because he sees through the rouse of Bruce sheltering him. Look at the emmy award winning episode "Robin's Reckoning," which came out two years before Forever. Dick is portrayed as someone who wants to be seen as more than a kid (he was also a college student) and even in the flashbacks, he sneaks out and does things kids shouldn't. Also personally i wish they didn't use Nightwing's symbol in the second movie if they weren't going to make his journey about figuring out his own identity. Not just because it's embarrassing for a grown ass man to be complaining about every little thing like hes a bratty teenager, but also it ruined the image of a red and black Nightwing for me (one of rhe reasons i don't like his new 52 look)
I think Batman and Robin is a good film, it depends on how you see it, even today the CGI holds up compared to many films today, Schumacher at the time had to stick to Warner's rules, where they wanted an even bigger toy film, but basically the film is not bad, I have a special memory, and even today I see it with pleasure, the opening scene is cool, like the chase with freeze, it has objective defects, but it has a good rhythm and never gets boring, finally it has the best dialogues with bruce and alfred
Ik this is off topic but can you do a video on mr freeze from the Batman 2004 show I feel like you would have some good opinions on him please and thank u
All I have to say is I only like the very ending where Batman gives a talk to freeze otherwise but I do like the words anyone can take a ride now giving my that’s real power. God bless you and Jesus loves you. 2:23
Batman & Robin was '97. Flash was '23. 26 year gap. 26 years *from now* (2050), we will not be talking about the '24 Flash movie. We will still be talking about Batman & Robin. That's my opinion about their place in DC history, not my opinion about the movies' quality.
To this day I say Ben Affleck is worse than george clooney and maybe this is an assumption but if joel Schumacher didn't direct the film but kept George Clooney it might have been better off and more interesting.
@@jayyce1 just because someone looks like batman doesn't mean they have what it takes to be batman or do that role. Affleck was better as Daredevil than what he was as batman
"That doesn't sound very PC, what about Bat-Person or Bat-Woman"
What a weird fucking line.
Imagine George Clooney delivering some of Batman's most iconic lines. "I am Vengeance. I'm the night, I guess?" *shrugs* "I'm Batman."
😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
I could never imagine it being that his performance as Batman was so awful. He is a great actor. Just not a great Batman. His performance is so awful as Batman that he makes the cheesy Superfriends version look great.
My problem with Batgirl being Alfred’s niece is that it gives me a thought of a girl from a private school instead of a public school. She doesn’t have the training that a police commissioner daughter would have. Made her not believable as Batgirl. She only Batgirl because she is related to Alfred. To quote Deadpool “that is just lazy writing.”
Hi, Freeze i'm Batman.
That line still gives me chills
Not the I'm Batman part but the hi freeze part 😂
Only two words needed to describe Batman and Robin .. "Bat Nipples!"
And Bat Asses
As a kid not gonna lie I loved these cheesy Batman Movies 😆😁
But so glad they changed for the better 👍
Michael Keaton Batmans were cool 😎
I don’t dislike Robin’s suit in this film, but it really makes him look like he’s just Nightwing with a cape (which I guess is technically true, but it’s weird.)
I think it's way cooler than wearing the red and green tights...
I honestly wish Nightwing had a cape by default
@@CoreisusNO CAPES.
Val had the best jaw line for Batman George almost plays the perfect live action Bruce Wayne without trying or being in a Batman movie yet the actual best Batman in live action was the first not saying that the newer Batman actors didn't work for me just how Michael Keaton pretty much squashed any chance someone actually nearly doing 1 to 1 representation of the source material better is beyond comprehensive thought
George Clooney was better in from Dusk Till Dawn.
Also I would love to see a video on Batman Beyond titled " Why Terry McGinnis is Batman."
Alicia would've been better as Blabk Canary. Clooney was OK, just felt off as Batman.... would've been better as Hal Jordan back then.
I honestly forgot Bane was in this movie
Batman and Robin was awesome 😎
I still can't believe Clooney reprised his role for The Flash.
@@anubusx At least Keaton forced his character to die.
Are we talking about the same film???
@@jeanemlicar No, these are dogwhistles for the secret Mama Mia 2 fandom that's taking over RUclips comments.
Clooney's Bruce Wayne is straight off the comic book. But he was miscast here. The script was bad, the plot was bad, This had more of a 66 Batman feel. Chris O'Donnell was irritating, Thurman, Arnie, camped it up.
Might just be the booze talking here, but I think George would be perfect for an elder Bruce in a live action Batman beyond.
We need to stop the "dick was completely perfect jason was the rebellious one" take. While it's true he started that way, Dick did start to gain more and more of his own independence, even dropping out of college to spite Bruce. Later adaptations portray him as someone who does act up because he sees through the rouse of Bruce sheltering him. Look at the emmy award winning episode "Robin's Reckoning," which came out two years before Forever. Dick is portrayed as someone who wants to be seen as more than a kid (he was also a college student) and even in the flashbacks, he sneaks out and does things kids shouldn't.
Also personally i wish they didn't use Nightwing's symbol in the second movie if they weren't going to make his journey about figuring out his own identity. Not just because it's embarrassing for a grown ass man to be complaining about every little thing like hes a bratty teenager, but also it ruined the image of a red and black Nightwing for me (one of rhe reasons i don't like his new 52 look)
I think Batman and Robin is a good film, it depends on how you see it, even today the CGI holds up compared to many films today, Schumacher at the time had to stick to Warner's rules, where they wanted an even bigger toy film, but basically the film is not bad, I have a special memory, and even today I see it with pleasure, the opening scene is cool, like the chase with freeze, it has objective defects, but it has a good rhythm and never gets boring, finally it has the best dialogues with bruce and alfred
Thank you for another insightful, developed and sophisticated video.😀
Love ya, my favourite least favourite RUclipsr. Excellent stuff man
Yup
Ik this is off topic but can you do a video on mr freeze from the Batman 2004 show I feel like you would have some good opinions on him please and thank u
I will still be defender of Batman and Robin for costumes, props and maybe sets.
Hey if you like pointless bat nipples, bat codpieces and sculpted bat asses you do you.
I'm very curious on your take on Titans Bruce Wayne
This was my favorite batman movie 😆 😂
George Clooney was playing a 35 year old Bruce? 👀
1997 35 is definitely not 2024 35.
Nice
I love this movie!!
All I have to say is I only like the very ending where Batman gives a talk to freeze otherwise but I do like the words anyone can take a ride now giving my that’s real power. God bless you and Jesus loves you. 2:23
Okay thd razzy or whatever it's called is for supporting role. Anyone winning it would be only a bit part. In that context she damn sure earns it
I still like George Clooney Batman
Is this video about the people who warned you not to go see it?
that's pretty good.
Read the B&R movie novelization its better!
Sup
without Batmand and Robin no The Flash after credits cameo. that made the movie worth it.
Batman & Robin was '97. Flash was '23. 26 year gap.
26 years *from now* (2050), we will not be talking about the '24 Flash movie. We will still be talking about Batman & Robin. That's my opinion about their place in DC history, not my opinion about the movies' quality.
@@Erichwanh i know it was a joke.. but who knows? I mean 97 no one would have thought we still talking about this movie..
Alicia Silverstone was great in "Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The 120 Days of Sodom", or whatever it was called. She looks like a secular Melissa Joan Hart.
To this day I say Ben Affleck is worse than george clooney and maybe this is an assumption but if joel Schumacher didn't direct the film but kept George Clooney it might have been better off and more interesting.
I really don’t get the Affleck hate, I thought he was great.
@@jayyce1 just because someone looks like batman doesn't mean they have what it takes to be batman or do that role. Affleck was better as Daredevil than what he was as batman