@@TheMedjed-k9nreligious leaders can't have it's people think. Look at Iran they killed thousands of protestors simply for woman being able to wear what they want without being kidnapped or killed by cops.
People are just being used as comment farms I'm pretty sure this guy knows how much comments you can get from a bunch of idiots arguing with each other about religion when they can just believe in whatever they think is right instead of arguing with each other for no absolute reason.
Actually the god could make a rock he can’t lift and a rock he can lift because he could just make a rock he cannot lift with one hand and make the rock lift able with 2 hands
For those who don’t know, the classic answer to this for actual religions is that God is only all-powerful to things outside of Himself, which means He can’t contradict Himself. Which means He can’t make a rock He can’t lift. Zach please do something about these bots
The end of the video was basically the answer, he can make the rock unliftable and liftable whenever he wants at will. It's not like he can create an unliftable rock and not be able to lift it again.
It’s pretty simple logic tbh. If there is that kind of all powerful creature like him, he can create something, that even himself cannot lift(for example), but if he wants to he can do it. I believe it’s called “Omnipotent”.
A square circle and a rock so heavy that God cannot lift are illogical constructs rather than legitimate challenges to the concept of omnipotence. Zack clearly has not studied theology. If he presented this argument to serious academics of religion, he would get laughed at and make a huge spectacle of himself 😂😂😂.
@@LitCee i would hope that serious academics of religion would not be so unkind as to laugh at someone presenting illogical constructs as a challenge to omnipotence. It is perhaps the most common paradox that people consider regarding God, and is sufficiently perplexing to shape many a perspective.
@@drewt1717 the answer is actually very simple and you don't need a religion expert. since GOD created everything including the rules of physics he can do whatever he wanted. so yes he can create a rock he can't lift but can lift it whenever he desires.
No, God doesn't work in logical impossibilities, so the answer is pretty simple, no, God can't make a square circle, or a married bachelor, or create a rock he can't lift, he is outside of space and time, and has absolute power of that which he creates. This doesn't say anything about whether God can exist or not (he was just presenting a paradox, but I am explaining why it isn't) God in the Christian context is the source and definition of Logic, and works perfectly within it
@rayane2835 those aren't atheist in the traditional sense. Atheists are people who defy religions and want others to do the same. People who don't care at all about religion are "non-religious".
God is the most powerful who can create the unimaginable, let alone a rock, God created the sun that we cant even stare at for more than 5 seconds and this whole universe which explains the unimaginable power he almighty has!❤
@Programmable_Rook our logic is a subset in the knowlege of God our understanding of god's infinite nature is also quite limited lol god's logic might seem illogical to us since we are inside the universe and governed by all the laws in the universe but the laws of the universe were indeed created by God so God himself does not need to obey them
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Are you on something? Because this is a valid paradox. Can I get what you are on to make you not have basic logical deduction skills, you coelenterate?
According to the philosopher St. Augustine, this question fails in the sense that the statement is meaningless as such, for example: "Can there be a 3-sided square?" Clearly not, and this does not create a dilemma, because the question is not well formulated. Anyway, great video
@@Dud079 yes, there's stuff God can't do, like force you to do things God can't destroy your free will, not because He's not powerful enough, but because it goes against His character
@@Dud079 another example would be God turning evil Anything that goes against His character He can't do God can't lie, God can't become evil, God can't be unfair, God can't break a promise, God can't create another god, God can't love evil and not judge sin, God can't commit sin and many other examples
As a Christian I think this is really interesting. And off the top of my head the only thing I can think of is that this defies human logic but not Gods alliknowingness.
St Thomas Aquinas, a great Christian philosopher, wrote on this. God is not omnipotent because he can't create illogicalities (like an unliftable rock) or something against his nature (like the ability to hate)
God transcends logic and yet is within logic because he is omnipresent and omnipotent. He is within and outside, He is and isn’t, He is does and does not.
Well as a Christian I would say that the God of the Bible is all powerful but he is limited by his being. If he does not lie the it must be true that he will never flood the world again like the Genisis account. With this in mind I would say this describes a false God not from the Bible. It’s a paradoxical question that defeats itself because it constructs a supposed a false god who will do anything rather than can do anything. This is against the logic that God created.
In actuality, God (specifically the Father and Holy Spirit) has no physical appearance, but I agree, if He had to be represented by a visual image, this one isn't actually too terrible.
I don't think you guys understand God already made a rock he can't lift and technically still can it's called a planet because he would only need to lift in relatively to another celestial body like the sun
To sum up every doubt, God can't contradicts Himself. God can do anything but will not do something that goes against His majesty (like becoming weak, which makes all religions that say God can turn Himself into a weak being like an animal or human sound so stupid, with all due respect). God isn’t bound by time or space, not bound by gender, and is beyond our imagination. And of course, the most important thing is that God is one (we see how gods in Greek mythology fight each other, that’s what would happen if more than one god existed).
Omnipotence is best understood as the power to do anything logically possible. Logical contradictions, like the "heavy rock" scenario, are excluded from the definition because they don't represent genuine tasks but rather errors in reasoning. "Can God create a rock so heavy that He cannot lift it?" simply highlights a misunderstanding of what omnipotence entails. It's akin to asking, "Can God make 2 + 2 equal 5?" The latter is not a task but a meaningless combination of words.
God's whole existence is that he isnt bound by our understanding of logic (I had edit it because my replies saying that logic and physics are two different things)
The universe yes but God rules the universe He rules the laws of physics and logics, but He does not live by it because He does not need anything to help Him because He is the All powerfull God
@@Prince_GOLDthe only reason people are offended is because their beliefs were challenged and they can’t come up with a rebuttal because they’re too scared to admit their logic is flawed
As a muslim I just wanted to say that according to Islamic theology, God is above human limitations and laws, including human logic. The idea of the "rock paradox" does not apply to His omnipotence because, in Islam, Allah is not bound by the same laws that govern the physical world or the logic created by human beings. The Quran states several times that Allah has power over all things (e.g., *Surat Al-Baqara*, 2:106). Divine omnipotence (in islam) is not limited to our limited understanding. Hope that helps!
So the reply to that is just whatver we do we can’t understand God power(divine omnipotent)? That it is just out of the human understanding,that seem really unfair and very like unprovable Also that actually kinda still apply,if allah came and created a rock with the will of it to be unliftable whatever he might do ,Would he be avle to lift it or not? If he can,whatever wau,that mean he isn’t able to overpower is own power with his power(but that would meant that he can’t do anything,since that rock does is unliftable even tho he did created it will the intention of it not being) If he cant lift it,that would mean he can overpower his own power with his power,by making something with the purpuse of it being that way,so he isnt all powerful since he did couldn’t lift rhat rock that he createed) There is no god logic,or understanding,that a situation of teest,he can or can’t Also that seem to be just a way to silence any critic and question on your religion since you can just say,God omnipotence is beyond human understanding Very nice patching any issue with a statement that cant be deny nor confirm
if the human mind came up with the concept of god yet god is beyond human understanding, should we trust that theory of god? why trust out own beliefs...
A coder does not need to follow the rules of his game Edit:I f@#$ed up did I? This analogy cannot fully represent how god works,what I meant by this analogy is that everything that is in this universe doesn't apply to God himself,God is an incomprehensible being so I admit this analogy's attempt sucks @#$, could've made a better one if I actually thought this throughout instead of spending 30 seconds off of a random Wednesday
@@superj.v3920 How? Like, let's say that I were to write a code that says "u cannot use the word n". To ignore this rule I would need to code it, otherwise telling the computer by voice that it should ignore me, would not work. It would still follow its coding no matter what
I don't think any theist has argued for that. We have acknowledged that God can't do the logically impossible, but that isn't a limitation of power. This so called paradox stems from a missconception of definitions Errors: Omnipotence Paradoxical definition: The ability to do anything Actual definition: Absolute power Logic Paradoxical definition: a set of rules one could escape from with sufficient power Actual definition: the description of everything that is, or everything that is possible To say that something is illogical is precisely to exclude it from the realm of the do-able, no matter the amount of power. Since by definition the logically impossible negates its own existence and thus isn't even a conceptual possibility This, is not any limitation of power, it is simply coherence. And thus, God not being able to break logic does not constitute a limitation of his power, because of the very nature of logic itself, and the nature of omnipotence Please, before attacking theists with these weak arguments, do a bit of research. We have dealt with these things for centuries, and they fail at all times.
Aight so I'mma just lay this right here for everyone in this thread but I think there is a solution to this paradox and it's a really fucking simple solution is you study physics for even a little bit. While I'm not claiming to be 100% correct, I will say that everyone's kinda surface level for not thinking more into this. But uhh... Superpositions are a thing, in case people forgot.
Continuing from my last comment in this thread (this is copied from my main comment of this video): Bro the moment I saw this, I immediately started thinking about God being in a superposition, which might be the actual solution to this "paradox" but don't quote me on that because the keyword here is MIGHT. I think the solution here is that God exists in multiple states at once. Just think of this in terms of basic quantum mechanics. God's omnipotence operates beyond human logic and binary thinking naturally, but this isn't necessarily "beyond human thinking" at all if you're a physicist. To reiterate: In a quantum-like framework, God could both create the object and lift it in a way that goes beyond the regular understanding of physical limits suggesting that the concept of "can" and "can't" is irrelevant when applied to him (or her, or it, however you want to refer to God as). God's power might function on a level where contradictions coexist, much like how a quantum particle can exist in multiple states at the same time. So in this view, God is not bound by the paradox because his nature surpasses the constraints of classical physics/dynamics.
This is a logical fallacy, it's like asking: Can the colors white be blue at the same time ? *Obviously can't* Or Is there darkness in the light or is there light in the absolute darkness? Obviously this question can't be answered with our physical law because it will just contradict the existing law itself
He'd still be able to lift it then. The question poses both parties remained unchanged and clearly changing either the rocks size or gods strength is a breach in the question.
@DizaTak Then he could lift it. That's why it's a paradox, if he can change yhe rules at his whim then he can lift it whenever. If I can lift an object but choose to act like I can't that isn't me being unable to do so. The better arguments on this is that God is not all powerful in that he obeys the laws of physics because that in and of itself is not a contradiction to his power. Or given God is everything by proxy he'd also be the rock and like how one cannot lift oneself he cannot do the same. It's all theory and thought experiment which makes it endlessly cyclic
A square circle and a rock so heavy that God cannot lift are illogical constructs rather than legitimate challenges to the concept of omnipotence. Zack clearly has not studied theology. If he presented this argument to serious academics of religion, he would get laughed at and make a huge spectacle of himself 😂😂😂.
@LitCee ?? What do you mean by illogical constructions? Are you just saying that they would be impossible to create? Because if an all powerful being can't create anything then are they really all-powerful?
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@Programmable_Rook our logic is a subset in the knowlege of God our understanding of god's infinite nature is also quite limited lol god's logic might seem illogical to us since we are inside the universe and governed by all the laws in the universe but the laws of the universe were indeed created by God so God himself does not need to obey them
@@BruhCredencialThat assumes God's/the Gods existence. Even so the question still stands if he does not have to obey his own rules then under said rules could he and if not then how could a being like that exist.
@@morgoofy god can make object that he can't lift and decide if he should increase his strength or not, or decrease the weight of object or not Similarly to humans making weight they can't lift, but they can train to be able lift it Although i doubt god himself Is limited to our thinking, so it can be more complex than what I said
@@Programmable_Rook no rock is un Unliftable rock to him yep that's pretty much my answer Even if he tries to make one he can lift it with ease You are also right This paradox happened because we are assuming that God has limits but it's quite the opposite, he is the limitless God We can assume that the rock could be theoretically unliftable even for God standards(this only applicable to lower deities/God's like Hercules, zues standard) But as Almighty as he is he can prove us wrong all the time, impossible is not in God's vocabulary
@@francisjosephcutamora8530So your position is that God physically cannot make a rock which he cannot lift. That’s a thing he can’t do, which means he’s definitionally not omnipotent. We’re not assuming limits, we’re doing the opposite: We’re assuming omnipotence, then demonstrates that any omnipotent being can be proven to not be omnipotent, thus showing a logical contradiction and proving that nothing omnipotent can exist. It’s got nothing to do with limiting power and everything to do with not limiting power.
I love how we applied human logic to an all powerful being and called it a paradox. All powerful means that u can do ANYTHING. And being all powerful in itself already defies logic
Because that being in itself is a creation of humans so therefore we can apply human logic to it. If it isn't a human creation and is all powerful then it would have no need to look and care about us so we would never know it existed outside of what we can observe when it fucks around in the universe
nah actually, it's a pretty good question I love these kinds questions @Programmable_Rook our logic is a subset in the knowlege of God our understanding of god's infinite nature is also quite limited lol god's logic might seem illogical to us since we are inside the universe and governed by all the laws in the universe but the laws of the universe were indeed created by God so God himself does not need to obey them
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A lot of people don’t know that this is called circular reasoning. The question "Can God create a stone so heavy that even he could not lift it?" is considered a logical paradox, often cited as an example of circular reasoning, because it implies that if God could create such a stone, it would contradict the very definition of his omnipotence, meaning he wouldn't be all-powerful if there was something he couldn't lift; and if he couldn't create such a stone, it also contradicts his omnipotence as it would mean there is a limit to his creative power. Most philosophers argue that creating a stone too heavy to lift is a logical contradiction, meaning it is not something that can be truly conceived of or achieved, even by an omnipotent being. This is because the concept of "too heavy to lift" inherently implies a limitation on power, which contradicts the idea of infinite power. So long story short, people often just see the paradox, assume it’s right and then consider it fact. If people had dug deeper, they might’ve learnt something pretty interesting.
No, not really. It's stupid. It's like asking God to make a stick with one end. He is an omnipotent being; which means he can do anything that makes sense.
@prayingcranium you're confusing logic with possibility. It is possible to make a stone with any weight of you think about it. But a stick with one end is not but it would have to be outside the dimensional space that we live in. Making a rock with more weight each time is possible, if not, infinite. I agree that your logic is fair but it also doesn't correspond with omnipotence as it relates to having power whereas we talk about creation. But if you think about it. God can make a stick with one end but it wouldn't be visible to us due to dimensional laws. One dimensional you could say if viewed from such a point. But it's not logically possible to see a stick with one end in a 3d environment. But the rock being more in weight is something which should be possible. If God is omnipotent in your eyes, he should be able to create a rock that's unliftable even by him but then also be able to lift it. Your argument only supports the one end stick part but has nothing to do with if God can't do anything with it. In any sense, we can believe that God can change dimensional laws or even make it only viewable from a one dimensional array. It's impossible in the sense that it requires manipulation that is possible if we deem that God is omnipotent. But in the paradox mentioned in the video, such a experiment is certainly possible like we deemed that God is omnipotent but if he can never truly create a rock that he can't lift because if he can't lift a rock then he can't be all-powerful (omnipotence). It's a paradox which ultimately makes different viewpoints on the existence of a god. It doesn't mean that God doesn't exist but it gives us more factors into play when even considering if God is a real being. I do believe in god but up to now i do not have a definitive answer backing this paradox cuz it's a rather interesting yet broad sum of thought processed all into consideration.
@prayingcranium It's a good trait to accept defeat on certain topics when unaware of prior knowledge. I always like thinking outside the box? So that's helped me to reason with such an answer. I do love a good challenge when provided with one tho!
@@Wolphins I think its similar to this: A human creating a video game where a rock is so heavy, no in-game character can lift it(or a block so hard, no character can mine it). But the human itself can lift the rock by changing the lines of code, but the characters stuck in the game cant escape the matrix and change the code in a higher dimension. The question itself is illogical. The characters in the game cannot conclude that the creator is not all-powerful; the creator is all-powerful, to them.
Christian here. I think it would be a contradictory statement to say that an infinitely powerful being can make something and be unable to lift it, making the claim illogical. God is a maximal being, meaning God is all-logical, all-loving, all-wise, and in particular, all-powerful (I can go on about the attributes of God, but you get the point). This idea of being “all-powerful” was misunderstood in this video, for it excludes how God is a logical being, and therefore can only do logical things. By this, I mean that God can not create a square-circle or a window that is both open and closed, for the two definitions exclude each other and therefore are contradictory. This is known as the law of non-contradiction, where something cannot be true or false at the same time and sense. When it was said that God is all-powerful, and therefore can create something that God cannot lift, it is claiming that an infinite power can create something more powerful than infinite. How much more weight do you need for God to not be able to lift it? More than infinite. What's more than infinite? There is nothing greater than infinity, so nothing. You cannot logically have something that a maximally powerful being cannot lift. It violates the law of non-contradiction because it says that there is something that is heavier than infinity, which is a contradictory statement.
I dont think this problem is about power, but more about god's wish God wished for the rock to be more powerful than him, and it wasnt, so in this problem: god couldnt follow his conviction God is after all the creator of everything, that includes the logic he follows, so he could theoretically just bend the rules and lift that rock anyways, but then that rock isnt what god wished for: an unliftable rock I think that's the problem at stakes
@@AndrewJCFSuse your brain, could it be possible for God to create a square circle. No. If yes, then here's the answer: that question is contradictory, it goes against the nature of a circle. In the same way, cab God create a rock he can't lift and can lift goes against the idea of him being all powerful, the question itself is a contradiction.
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@@ScholarHaru the question is not gibberish, it's specifically asking if God is beyond logic, and if omnipotence is an attribute if God, then God would be inherently illogical, in other words, the concept of an omnipotent God is gibberish nonsense 🤷
thats not how it works. It cant be "beyond" logic. I better paradox than the rock would be a sqaure circle. If god is all powerful can he make a sqaure circle? No he cant because a sqaure circle is contradictory and you cannot violate its shape definitions.
@@justice8718 ok, so he can make a circular square? No he cant. And he isnt "beyond" logic. Because illogical things arent even things You literally cannot iolate chape definitions no matter what because thats what defines a shape
@@Lbozo-ev6kzNo, this is a valid response to the rock argument. We apply logic to the world, but if a theist defines their deity as not beholden to the logic of the world, then an all powerful deity could exist despite contradictions which would prove that anything else does not exist. Essentially, you can’t use logic on a thing defined as above logic systems.
@@luky9_ Regardless of my stance on the position, argument from ignorance is not a strong way to support agnosticism. I suppose you could also be supporting absurdism, in which case I don’t see the connection to a deity.
@@solisimperium1203 I was referencing the fact that no philosopher actually takes this argument seriously, but it’s such a classic argument that it’s too good to leave behind. I’m not trying to make a case for the existence of god(s). Everyone’s second favorite RUclips atheist Alex O’Connor shares this view with me, (see his video on arguments against god’s existence).
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You’re changing the situation. God needs to create a rock that he CANT lift. There are no work around he must not be able to lift it. Not a rock someone with his strength can’t lift. I don’t know where you pulled that bullshit out of your ass to cope but it’s called a paradox for a reason
Basically god can defy logic because god can do anything, that makes sense in a way. But the other contradiction to this is supposedly since god is all powerful and can defy logic, why can’t god make a universe with both free will and no suffering? It doesn’t really have to defy logic to allow both but Christians insist it does so let’s just say it does defy logic then shouldn’t god still be able to do it anyways?
Because when Adam and eve ate the apple, and when man chose evil and selfish and sin and disobeyed him, that's when all the suffering started and continued on. He tried to end all this with the flood and with Sodom and gommorah and nineveh, multiple times but with ninevites he gave them a second chance. And sending Jesus to die on the cross for our sins so that even if you make mistakes or do bad or selfish things you won't go to hell. Of course there's still suffering in the world because the earth is corrupt and evil and cruel and cold.
You can't have free will and no suffering because when there's free will, people are capable of evil and selfishness and will use it for their own personal gain and their own ulterior motives and desires. And God has divine intervened multiple times and he will send his son Jesus to come back soon
Or so the Bible says Jesus is coming back soon, we don't know when or what day or week, months or years but we are in the end times and dark days and many events lined up with the Bible that the end is nigh
In Islamic theology, God's omnipotence means He has unlimited power, but this does not include performing logically impossible tasks. The question of whether God can create a stone so heavy He cannot lift it is a paradox, not a true test of His power. It represents a logical contradiction, similar to asking if God can stop being God. Islamic scholars argue that God’s omnipotence is coherent within the bounds of reason, and logical fallacies do not limit His power.
Évidement, mais admettons qu'on pose réellement la question, il pourrait le soulever et ne pas pouvoir en même temps, ça s'appelle la dualité d'états quantiques....comme le démontre le chat de Shrödinger... Mais oui, c'est logiquement Impossible à poser comme question même de créer quelque chose qui n'est pas sous le contrôle d'Allah, car par définition les créations sous soumises au pouvoir d'Allah. C'est une erreur de définition qu'il commet ici, en plus une erreur de représentation car le fait de soulever n'est pas le même pour dieu sachant qu'il ne ressemble à aucune de ses créatures...
1. Create unliftable rock 2. Try to lift it but don’t succeed 3. Give ability to lift rock. 4. Prove that god can do anything 5. Promptly enjoy success
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@@MrGreen-fi5sg watch his old videos.
@@djmhammer331 I do, just asking what's wrong with talking about God?
@@MrGreen-fi5sg I thought you didn’t know what her meant about “3 facts you didn’t need to know”
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He's presenting a simple paradox and never actually disrespected God so idk.why these people are acting so salty 😂
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@@TheMedjed-k9nreligious leaders can't have it's people think. Look at Iran they killed thousands of protestors simply for woman being able to wear what they want without being kidnapped or killed by cops.
People are just being used as comment farms I'm pretty sure this guy knows how much comments you can get from a bunch of idiots arguing with each other about religion when they can just believe in whatever they think is right instead of arguing with each other for no absolute reason.
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what is wrong about this video?
They can't get a answer so they say random b.s@@urhoj23468
it's a paradox, it's not supposed to make sense (also your copy and pasted comment doesn't even make sense in this context)
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Hes onto something ❌
He’s on something ✅
Sounds like, to me, you can't follow anything that challenges you ✅️
Actually the god could make a rock he can’t lift and a rock he can lift because he could just make a rock he cannot lift with one hand and make the rock lift able with 2 hands
@@UriahHteGod is infinite he can make a infinite rock in weight and he can pick it up if he did not want to he wont
Then it's not something he can't lift
Therefore he can't create anything
@@Justkidding09 bro can’t understand
Bro literally confused the heck out of us
😂😂😅
Never thought I'd see God visualised as a cloud with a pair of hands
Biblically accurate angles can be described as a mess of eyes and wings, so “Gloud” isn’t that weird in comparison to his angles
Lol gloud@@tamsuemomwife
@@tamsuemomwifedude that’s not what a biblically accurate angel is
@@LukeMarcelloim pretty sure it is
@@LukeMarcello I think that’s how it is for the Seraphim. The Ophanim I think are literally just wheels.
Bro went from biology to ... 💀
what's wrong with it? it's still quite interesting
you know that often they do scientific fields that are not biology
5 min😂😂
Smh@Jenny_Wakeman-Yfga
@DONTREADMYBIO1901 AIN'T NO FCKIN WAY 💀💀💀😭😭😭
For those who don’t know, the classic answer to this for actual religions is that God is only all-powerful to things outside of Himself, which means He can’t contradict Himself. Which means He can’t make a rock He can’t lift.
Zach please do something about these bots
Just like god can't lie or be evil
The end of the video was basically the answer, he can make the rock unliftable and liftable whenever he wants at will. It's not like he can create an unliftable rock and not be able to lift it again.
Only two of these replies are not bot comments 💀
How convenient...
And he can’t make 1+1=3
Edit: attack of the clones 🤖🤖😭😭🙏
Bro is making us question religion 💀
Bro just put Thanos’ arm in a cloud and called it “god”
@Ksksissh-n8k stupid bots
@Ksksissh-n8kjust uploaded it? That was 2 years ago not 2 minutes ago
@DONTREADMYBIO1901what the fuck is wrong with you?!?
to be fair we don’t know his skin color, but it’s probably not purple
Bro shut up😂😂😂
"My methods are beyond your understanding, mortal. I eat paradoxes for breakfast"
~ God probably
the last line got me good
Nah If God can do everything then he can also make us understand his methods
@@cakesandwich first, god need to unlock our brain potential to 100% 😂
@@cakesandwichhe can, but he won’t cuz he don’t want to lol
@@ezon725 he can also do that
My brain is not braining💀
"My brain is not braining💀" 🤖🤖🤖
@@7HEMUFFINMANyou’re the npc too in this one vro😭
@@pompomber you too tbh
Mine neither
It’s pretty simple logic tbh. If there is that kind of all powerful creature like him, he can create something, that even himself cannot lift(for example), but if he wants to he can do it. I believe it’s called “Omnipotent”.
Yes he is the one who made logic in the first place
“Can someone all powerful make himself powerless”
Yes but can still be powerful
A square circle and a rock so heavy that God cannot lift are illogical constructs rather than legitimate challenges to the concept of omnipotence. Zack clearly has not studied theology. If he presented this argument to serious academics of religion, he would get laughed at and make a huge spectacle of himself 😂😂😂.
@@LitCee i would hope that serious academics of religion would not be so unkind as to laugh at someone presenting illogical constructs as a challenge to omnipotence. It is perhaps the most common paradox that people consider regarding God, and is sufficiently perplexing to shape many a perspective.
@@drewt1717 the answer is actually very simple and you don't need a religion expert.
since GOD created everything including the rules of physics he can do whatever he wanted.
so yes he can create a rock he can't lift but can lift it whenever he desires.
He DID do that actually when He was Born as a man named Jesus and suffered and died to free us from sin if we accept, repent and follow Him❤
bro made every religion fume with rage in 31 seconds
No he didn't
@@hellonewbie1042 holy shit it's like jokes dont exist
@@bread-monster-biting-the-curb my religion doesn't believe in jokes
@@bread-monster-biting-the-curblearn to lighten up. You seem more offended to his response than him responding to you
@@wkeezz no it's because i don't like people who try to ruin jokes
That is what God is supposed to be, a being that isn't tied to logic. Something entirely beyond our comprehension
Ring-a-ding-ding. Correct answer. It's also the same reason theistic debates won't end so long as there are believers.
Yeah god isn’t under any laws or rules he can quite literally do anything meaning he can do things beyond comprehension
No, God doesn't work in logical impossibilities, so the answer is pretty simple, no, God can't make a square circle, or a married bachelor, or create a rock he can't lift, he is outside of space and time, and has absolute power of that which he creates. This doesn't say anything about whether God can exist or not (he was just presenting a paradox, but I am explaining why it isn't) God in the Christian context is the source and definition of Logic, and works perfectly within it
@@weak_petoGreat answer
@@weak_peto God cant create something greater that himself because then that thing would be in a way, God
God created universe, but still he can destroy it in one snap! ☠️
“If I punch myself and it hurts, am I strong or am I weak?” Ahh question
no? what?
“You’re stupid that’s what you are”
Depends on how hard you hit yourself
You are probably in need of some mental help. Why are you punching yourself?
no because your strength is different from pain tolerance and also just no thats not how it works
I love how god is just a hand coming out of a cloud
To hide the truth
At the end of the day, aren't we all just a hand coming out of a cloud?
This is an old Christian motif. The hand of God. The most respectable depiction he could have chosen.
@@sticlavoda5632yes praise da lort . Amen
@@Stackpackflipper *Ament
Atheist preparing for an argument:
Write that down. WRITE THAT DOWN!!!!!
Same
Facts
Always quick as fuck to discredit some decent people who are happier and prouder than themselves.
Nah there is some chill atheist out there and I respect them cuz they respect your beliefs and u should respect theirs too
@rayane2835 those aren't atheist in the traditional sense. Atheists are people who defy religions and want others to do the same. People who don't care at all about religion are "non-religious".
God is the most powerful who can create the unimaginable, let alone a rock, God created the sun that we cant even stare at for more than 5 seconds and this whole universe which explains the unimaginable power he almighty has!❤
-Bro went to high school- ❌
Bro went to school high✔️
Thats wild😂
Underrated comment 😢
that's how i felt while watching this video 💀💀💀
Hahaha😂
Bot ass comment, just mute yourself lil bro
Dude turned into young Sheldon💀
How
@Programmable_Rook our logic is a subset in the knowlege of God
our understanding of god's infinite nature is also quite limited lol
god's logic might seem illogical to us since we are inside the universe and governed by all the laws in the universe
but the laws of the universe were indeed created by God so God himself does not need to obey them
this is a dope question
I hope he does more of these
@@BruhCredencialnah
@@BruhCredencial the hell are you yapping about
Bro's onto something❌
Bro's on something ✔️
Underrated XD
He’s onto something tho
@@5astfr
He is tho
@@regulardudeguy he isn't.
Bro is onto something ❌
Bro is on something ✅
The Rock has been real quiet since this dropped.
@DONTREADMYBIO1901clash of bots
This is a UTTP member, as I have been saying, Please don't reply to the bots and just report them,
How to tell its a bot?
There is multiple variants
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Zack had too much cococola without the cola today 😭💀
Coco
Bro had too much coco
He had to much coke (not the drink)
Yeah I love hot cocoa
Co
Bros onto something ❌
Bros on something ✅
Edit: idk why the replies are going mad
Are you on something? Because this is a valid paradox. Can I get what you are on to make you not have basic logical deduction skills, you coelenterate?
Underrated
@@CaptainDarkFighter Overrated
@@langcao3544perfectly rated
Nah. The explanetion is he can but he didn't lol, like he is able to give up his unlimited powers but he didn't so he is still all powerfull. 🙀
According to the philosopher St. Augustine, this question fails in the sense that the statement is meaningless as such, for example: "Can there be a 3-sided square?" Clearly not, and this does not create a dilemma, because the question is not well formulated. Anyway, great video
The real argument here is: "Can God contradict Himself ?"
To which the answer is... No
Well said ✝❤
thus, there is something he can't do.
@@Dud079 yes, there's stuff God can't do, like force you to do things
God can't destroy your free will, not because He's not powerful enough, but because it goes against His character
@@Dud079 another example would be God turning evil
Anything that goes against His character He can't do
God can't lie, God can't become evil, God can't be unfair, God can't break a promise, God can't create another god, God can't love evil and not judge sin, God can't commit sin and many other examples
@@thefirstbigsmokepopcat744 It's more of a "He won't" not "He can't"
bro summoned 14M religious ppl
You know what religon you're talking about, you know...
Religion is very STUPID
Its zeus? @@bwanedeen289
Hinduism?
I imagine the omnipotent being just *lift* space itself
Bro declared religious war to all religious 💀
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holy snowflake you guys are soft as hell for getting this offended at a copied comment
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My brain ain’t braning 💀
As a Christian I think this is really interesting. And off the top of my head the only thing I can think of is that this defies human logic but not Gods alliknowingness.
I think its more like god isnt physical in the first place so he cant lift a rock?
St Thomas Aquinas, a great Christian philosopher, wrote on this. God is not omnipotent because he can't create illogicalities (like an unliftable rock) or something against his nature (like the ability to hate)
Let people believe what they want to, theres other religions aka islam that believe much more rediculous things@@robertmurphy6566
God transcends logic and yet is within logic because he is omnipresent and omnipotent. He is within and outside, He is and isn’t, He is does and does not.
Well as a Christian I would say that the God of the Bible is all powerful but he is limited by his being. If he does not lie the it must be true that he will never flood the world again like the Genisis account. With this in mind I would say this describes a false God not from the Bible. It’s a paradoxical question that defeats itself because it constructs a supposed a false god who will do anything rather than can do anything.
This is against the logic that God created.
People arguing centuries after centuries about how God looks like
Zack: ☁️💪
LOL
This might’ve been the safest interpretation of God uploaded in yt 😂
@@xxyanbgxx9017IM LAUGHING ON THE FLOOR RN
In actuality, God (specifically the Father and Holy Spirit) has no physical appearance, but I agree, if He had to be represented by a visual image, this one isn't actually too terrible.
This might be kinda accurate since no one has seen the father
It's a bird...
No it's a plane...
No it's my last braincell flying away
Lmao
HELICOPTER HELICOPTER
Literally
😂
I don't think you guys understand God already made a rock he can't lift and technically still can it's called a planet because he would only need to lift in relatively to another celestial body like the sun
I think an all powerful god could defy logic
This shit sounds like a math problem on stereoid
Frfr tho
Because it is. With this video calculate the mass of the sun in a trillion years.
Forget steroids it’s a math problem on meth overdosing on fentanyl
It's a Paradox called Omnipotent paradox.
It's a logic problem. Logic problems are the basis of math because math relies on logical relationships.
Zack summoned thousands of angry catholics
Cultists*
So according to some idiots, humans cannot be trusted so what's the point of believing bible books? Normal things for a stupid one
Do not call religious people cultists@@TrollFaceHmm
@@TrollFaceHmm Defending the philosophy of religion doesnt make u a cultists, The God rock paradox, has been already debunked
To sum up every doubt, God can't contradicts Himself. God can do anything but will not do something that goes against His majesty (like becoming weak, which makes all religions that say God can turn Himself into a weak being like an animal or human sound so stupid, with all due respect). God isn’t bound by time or space, not bound by gender, and is beyond our imagination. And of course, the most important thing is that God is one (we see how gods in Greek mythology fight each other, that’s what would happen if more than one god existed).
@@TrollFaceHmm Your LGBTQBQQ+ bs is a cultists.
"He can't lift it but he can lift it"💀💀
Bot
What is this comment dude? Bro didn't even contribute anything and just spammed the skull emoji
@@JuliusCeazarthe2nd he's either a bot or the brainrot has consumed him. Either way, he's beyond saving
dont disrespect monkeys😠😠
dont disrespect monkeys😠😠😠😠😠😠😠
That voice Crack was crazy
From now on I’m going to imagine God as just a cloud with one purple arm.
😂
When he talks does he go like: ✊✋✊
In your head canon?
@@deliberatelyaverage his other hand brings out text or text just appears above it
@@jusjames8496 You’re telling me illiterate people don’t speak god?
@@jusjames8496 It’s a hard afterlife for our blind community 😔
"He cant lift but still can lift it"bro definitely defies logic
Well actually not, God could use an animal to try to lift it and he wouldn't be able to lift it but then as God he can.
@@Meed2009if he can't he isn't
God can lift it but Jesus in the human body NORMALLY can't.
Omnipotence is best understood as the power to do anything logically possible. Logical contradictions, like the "heavy rock" scenario, are excluded from the definition because they don't represent genuine tasks but rather errors in reasoning. "Can God create a rock so heavy that He cannot lift it?" simply highlights a misunderstanding of what omnipotence entails. It's akin to asking, "Can God make 2 + 2 equal 5?" The latter is not a task but a meaningless combination of words.
@@ForsakenDestiny u said it as well :) glad to see people are clarifying what omnipotence actually is
God's whole existence is that he isnt bound by our understanding of logic
(I had edit it because my replies saying that logic and physics are two different things)
Sad that this is logics, not physics.
And both logic & physics evolve alongside our understanding of the universe.
@@kensosaramos
OUR, not God's
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING!
The universe yes but God rules the universe He rules the laws of physics and logics, but He does not live by it because He does not need anything to help Him because He is the All powerfull God
Professional scientist:❌
Professional yapper:✅
Why people are hating this man for no reason?
where?
It's pretty offensive for other religiouns.
@@Prince_GOLDthe only reason people are offended is because their beliefs were challenged and they can’t come up with a rebuttal because they’re too scared to admit their logic is flawed
@@alfonsothegr8 now hold on, no need to be rude here.
Tsk tsk@@alfonsothegr8
Bro took the wrong medicine today 💀
He high today ithink
Nothing is impossible to god. If your Christian like me then you should know that.
@@Shomrolly true that but i think zack be taking them shrooms
Or maybe you're just dumb enough to not be able to understand the video.
@@Shomrolly I am muim, I agree.
As a muslim I just wanted to say that according to Islamic theology, God is above human limitations and laws, including human logic. The idea of the "rock paradox" does not apply to His omnipotence because, in Islam, Allah is not bound by the same laws that govern the physical world or the logic created by human beings. The Quran states several times that Allah has power over all things (e.g., *Surat Al-Baqara*, 2:106). Divine omnipotence (in islam) is not limited to our limited understanding.
Hope that helps!
He already stated within the video that god would need to defy logic, he knows this already
And yet the concept of God becoming man to act as the lamb to forgive our sins is illogical and unthinkable.
(Much love to my Muslim brothers)
God is our imagination so We can portray him as powerful as we want him to be.
So the reply to that is just whatver we do we can’t understand God power(divine omnipotent)?
That it is just out of the human understanding,that seem really unfair and very like unprovable
Also that actually kinda still apply,if allah came and created a rock with the will of it to be unliftable whatever he might do ,Would he be avle to lift it or not?
If he can,whatever wau,that mean he isn’t able to overpower is own power with his power(but that would meant that he can’t do anything,since that rock does is unliftable even tho he did created it will the intention of it not being)
If he cant lift it,that would mean he can overpower his own power with his power,by making something with the purpuse of it being that way,so he isnt all powerful since he did couldn’t lift rhat rock that he createed)
There is no god logic,or understanding,that a situation of teest,he can or can’t
Also that seem to be just a way to silence any critic and question on your religion since you can just say,God omnipotence is beyond human understanding
Very nice patching any issue with a statement that cant be deny nor confirm
You just asked if it is illogical to think that God could turn himself into a human sacrifice for humanity to save humanity from God @@Redhollow
Voice crack on "if so" is crazy😭😭
Well this is where the human mind can't comprehend God.
Finally, Someone who shares the same idea
Exactly
if the human mind came up with the concept of god yet god is beyond human understanding,
should we trust that theory of god? why trust out own beliefs...
@@ElizabethsFantasy 💀💀
@@AHandFullOfSyrupare you 5?
"By creating a rock he can't lift but still can lift"
I had a stroke trying to know this 💀
It hurt my brain😊
Don't subscribe to Zack. D flims. He fakes and steals my ideas.
Don't subscribe to Zack. D flims. He fakes and steals my ideas.
Its just God also created gravity, and he can remove it or even reverse it
We have to retire. "I had a stroke trying"
“Zach, Its time to take your medications”💀
🧠💀
Ducking science harder than anyone else
“An all-powerful God can’t make a rock he can’t lift…”
“Okay, makes sen-“
“But an ALL-POWERFUL GOD COULD”
🤨😭
A coder does not need to follow the rules of his game
Edit:I f@#$ed up did I? This analogy cannot fully represent how god works,what I meant by this analogy is that everything that is in this universe doesn't apply to God himself,God is an incomprehensible being so I admit this analogy's attempt sucks @#$, could've made a better one if I actually thought this throughout instead of spending 30 seconds off of a random Wednesday
He absolutely does, do you know how coding works?
@@yasininn76cringe
@@yasininn76 Well, the coder can just say the rules doesn't apply tô him
@@yasininn76 Well, the coder can just say the rules doesn't apply tô him
@@superj.v3920 How? Like, let's say that I were to write a code that says "u cannot use the word n". To ignore this rule I would need to code it, otherwise telling the computer by voice that it should ignore me, would not work. It would still follow its coding no matter what
“He can’t lift it but he can still lift it”100% logicall😂😂
I don't think any theist has argued for that. We have acknowledged that God can't do the logically impossible, but that isn't a limitation of power.
This so called paradox stems from a missconception of definitions
Errors:
Omnipotence
Paradoxical definition: The ability to do anything
Actual definition: Absolute power
Logic
Paradoxical definition: a set of rules one could escape from with sufficient power
Actual definition: the description of everything that is, or everything that is possible
To say that something is illogical is precisely to exclude it from the realm of the do-able, no matter the amount of power. Since by definition the logically impossible negates its own existence and thus isn't even a conceptual possibility
This, is not any limitation of power, it is simply coherence.
And thus, God not being able to break logic does not constitute a limitation of his power, because of the very nature of logic itself, and the nature of omnipotence
Please, before attacking theists with these weak arguments, do a bit of research. We have dealt with these things for centuries, and they fail at all times.
he means can't lift with prob 1 hand but can lift with 2
goofball
Aight so I'mma just lay this right here for everyone in this thread but I think there is a solution to this paradox and it's a really fucking simple solution is you study physics for even a little bit.
While I'm not claiming to be 100% correct, I will say that everyone's kinda surface level for not thinking more into this. But uhh... Superpositions are a thing, in case people forgot.
Continuing from my last comment in this thread (this is copied from my main comment of this video):
Bro the moment I saw this, I immediately started thinking about God being in a superposition, which might be the actual solution to this "paradox" but don't quote me on that because the keyword here is MIGHT.
I think the solution here is that God exists in multiple states at once. Just think of this in terms of basic quantum mechanics. God's omnipotence operates beyond human logic and binary thinking naturally, but this isn't necessarily "beyond human thinking" at all if you're a physicist.
To reiterate: In a quantum-like framework, God could both create the object and lift it in a way that goes beyond the regular understanding of physical limits suggesting that the concept of "can" and "can't" is irrelevant when applied to him (or her, or it, however you want to refer to God as). God's power might function on a level where contradictions coexist, much like how a quantum particle can exist in multiple states at the same time. So in this view, God is not bound by the paradox because his nature surpasses the constraints of classical physics/dynamics.
I think today zack is more drunk 💀
it is nfl sunday after all. homie prob at the tailgate rn.
@KLMSkevmss smd hell nah
This is a logical fallacy, it's like asking:
Can the colors white be blue at the same time ?
*Obviously can't*
Or
Is there darkness in the light or is there light in the absolute darkness?
Obviously this question can't be answered with our physical law because it will just contradict the existing law itself
Fr
@KLMSkevmssur dad said HELL NAH because he a fictional character
He makes a rock that he cant lift at first, then makes himself strong enough to lift it
He'd still be able to lift it then. The question poses both parties remained unchanged and clearly changing either the rocks size or gods strength is a breach in the question.
@sirsteam6455 the thing about god is that god makes rules, that means he will just make it possible by literly thinking about it
@DizaTak Then he could lift it. That's why it's a paradox, if he can change yhe rules at his whim then he can lift it whenever. If I can lift an object but choose to act like I can't that isn't me being unable to do so. The better arguments on this is that God is not all powerful in that he obeys the laws of physics because that in and of itself is not a contradiction to his power. Or given God is everything by proxy he'd also be the rock and like how one cannot lift oneself he cannot do the same. It's all theory and thought experiment which makes it endlessly cyclic
Take this :
_God_
>Builds a rock he can't lift
>Goes to the Gym
>Gets buff
>Lifts rock
>Ends paradox
🗿
Bro solved it.
@lordo3961 God is beyond human understanding it's like teaching a fish a math it's beyond their understanding we only know God exists
@@proman9289my goldfish knows math
@@proman9289I put one fish food in an area and around 20 in another area. My goldfishes went to the 20 fish food. That is maths.
@@proman9289 so how do you know that God exists?
God created physics so he can turn it off
A square circle and a rock so heavy that God cannot lift are illogical constructs rather than legitimate challenges to the concept of omnipotence. Zack clearly has not studied theology. If he presented this argument to serious academics of religion, he would get laughed at and make a huge spectacle of himself 😂😂😂.
Bro thinks he’s in monecradt
@@LitCeeNo lil bro that’s perfectly logical. You are illogical.
@LitCee ?? What do you mean by illogical constructions? Are you just saying that they would be impossible to create? Because if an all powerful being can't create anything then are they really all-powerful?
@@LitCee😂😂fr
That’s so confusing. I thought I took some pills that I wasn’t supposed to take.
Did you die
U good? You could live, I mean I take 42 pills every day for three years now bcs or a disability and nerve pain soooo, hope ur alright dude
@floorhoek1781 stop the cap bruv
@@flaming.gg.plzff12412 LMAO do you want to hear what I take everyday?? I am paralysed bcs of a blood bloth in my spinal nerves, nerves without oxygen and they die--> paralysis. You CLEARLY have no idea what it means to have a chronic disability. I’m happy for you that you don’t, I wouldn’t wish that upon anyone. So do you want me to explain my medication list to you since you having a hard time believing someone is having it worse then you?🤣🤣 why would ANYONE even lie about having nerve damage and medication? Do you know what medication does to your body, say your organs, hair, skin, blood circulation, all the risks etc? Trust me no one would ever lie about taking that bcs it’s not a flex bro😭😭
@@flaming.gg.plzff12412 google it. Google paralysis and nerve damage pain. It’ll say that it’s the hardest pain to treat with medication bcs barely anything works-> you have to take way more for it to be effective. 🤷🏼♀️ yk what? Since you don’t wanna believe me, I’ll tell you what I take, it’ll save you time from googling !!
For pain medication I take:
amitriptyline, 3x a day
pregabalin, 4x a day
clonidine, 2x a day
methadone, 6x a day
Etoricoxib, 4x a day
paracetamol, 6x a day
ibuprofen, 6x a day
I guess for pain that’s it. obviously I have gifts every few hours from every single medication. And this is ALREADY 25 pills a day.
Alright, we’re not done yet, so moving on!
For muscle spasm I take
Baclofen 6x a day bcs they don’t have the right dosis, normally it would be 4x.
So that’s 29 pills a day
For muscle contracture
Also Baclofen but different dosis 1x a day
30 pills a day
For bladder issues
Mirabegron 1x a day
31 pills a day
For widening blood vessels
Amlodipine 2x a day
33 pills a day
For adhd
Ritalin 2x a day
35 pills a day so far
Idk what it’s called but to protect my stomach against all the medication💀
Pantoprazole 1x a day
36 pills a day
Antibiotics to prevent bladder infection because I need to catheterise myself bcs I have no control over my bladder bcs paralysis
Amoxicillin 4x a day
40 pills a day
And last but not least to prevent constipation bcs I don’t walk so my bowel moves less
Magnesium hydroxide 2x a day
That makes 42 pills a day LIKE I SAID🤷🏼♀️
Do you have any questions?
Makes me wonder about why you think one would ever lie about taking ts bcs it damages your body so severely that no one would ever voluntarily take all this.
My point: GET EDUCATED before saying ‘stop the cap bro’ 💀💀💀 it’s kinda embarrassing for you at this point I mean…… how slow can you be…..
Zack declared religious war online 💀
Bro you just solved this paradox right in this video☠️☠️💀💀
How?
@@SlipperyCritter-e4x He cant lift what he created with just 1 hand but can with 2 hands. Problem solved
@@NoktarRUclips then he lifted it, meaning hes not all powerful
God called BS
@@NoktarRUclips are you dumb?
homie is on that Vatican wifi
it's a good question tho
@Programmable_Rook our logic is a subset in the knowlege of God
our understanding of god's infinite nature is also quite limited lol
god's logic might seem illogical to us since we are inside the universe and governed by all the laws in the universe
but the laws of the universe were indeed created by God so God himself does not need to obey them
@@BruhCredencialThat assumes God's/the Gods existence. Even so the question still stands if he does not have to obey his own rules then under said rules could he and if not then how could a being like that exist.
God can make a rock so heavy he can’t lift it, but he also can give himself the ability to lift it at any time.
So he can lift it.
but then it turns into a paradox it make a rock heavier than that
@@morgoofy he can and can't lift it
@@bestmind-tm2me re-read what you just wrote and really think about the logic you put behind this if there's any
@@morgoofy god can make object that he can't lift and decide if he should increase his strength or not, or decrease the weight of object or not
Similarly to humans making weight they can't lift, but they can train to be able lift it
Although i doubt god himself Is limited to our thinking, so it can be more complex than what I said
Plot twist he creates an alternate timeline
"He can't lift" "But still be able to lift it" I fucking died 💀
It should be we think that he couldn't but he can
He’s drink today
@@francisjosephcutamora8530If he can lift it, then he can’t create an unliftable rock. That’s the entire point of the paradox.
@@Programmable_Rook no rock is un
Unliftable rock to him yep that's pretty much my answer
Even if he tries to make one he can lift it with ease
You are also right
This paradox happened because we are assuming that God has limits but it's quite the opposite, he is the limitless God
We can assume that the rock could be theoretically unliftable even for God standards(this only applicable to lower deities/God's like Hercules, zues standard)
But as Almighty as he is he can prove us wrong all the time, impossible is not in God's vocabulary
@@francisjosephcutamora8530So your position is that God physically cannot make a rock which he cannot lift. That’s a thing he can’t do, which means he’s definitionally not omnipotent. We’re not assuming limits, we’re doing the opposite: We’re assuming omnipotence, then demonstrates that any omnipotent being can be proven to not be omnipotent, thus showing a logical contradiction and proving that nothing omnipotent can exist. It’s got nothing to do with limiting power and everything to do with not limiting power.
I love how we applied human logic to an all powerful being and called it a paradox. All powerful means that u can do ANYTHING. And being all powerful in itself already defies logic
That’s why it’s fake!
Yes exactly, you were able to put into words what I was thinking
that's what makes it unknowable to human standards. and whether you're willing to believe in the unknowable kinda creates your worldview
Yess
Because that being in itself is a creation of humans so therefore we can apply human logic to it. If it isn't a human creation and is all powerful then it would have no need to look and care about us so we would never know it existed outside of what we can observe when it fucks around in the universe
Damn, zack is having shower thoughts😂
Bro went from people dying to this💀
Zack woke up drunk today 💀💀
Yep
nah actually, it's a pretty good question
I love these kinds questions
@Programmable_Rook our logic is a subset in the knowlege of God
our understanding of god's infinite nature is also quite limited lol
god's logic might seem illogical to us since we are inside the universe and governed by all the laws in the universe
but the laws of the universe were indeed created by God so God himself does not need to obey them
God is not limited to the boundaries of his creation. He created gravity, therefore he is outside it.
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Lol
Wow But the question remains...what did he actually say?
is you want to uhm eid
@@Cafe_Vermelha exactly
for it is written ,,You shall not test the Lord your God''
YESSS AMEN YOU TELL HIM!!
Cultists
@@GIGANTHEGOAT1 the Lord laughs at the wicked
@GIGANTHEGOAT1 Christianity is not a cult your brain is a cult 💀💀
@@GIGANTHEGOAT1nah keep hating bro
Allahuakbar
My God can move mountains ✝️🙏🏾
AMEN
But can he make a rock he can’t move🤨
God can do anything @@MikeyNone
A lot of people don’t know that this is called circular reasoning. The question "Can God create a stone so heavy that even he could not lift it?" is considered a logical paradox, often cited as an example of circular reasoning, because it implies that if God could create such a stone, it would contradict the very definition of his omnipotence, meaning he wouldn't be all-powerful if there was something he couldn't lift; and if he couldn't create such a stone, it also contradicts his omnipotence as it would mean there is a limit to his creative power. Most philosophers argue that creating a stone too heavy to lift is a logical contradiction, meaning it is not something that can be truly conceived of or achieved, even by an omnipotent being. This is because the concept of "too heavy to lift" inherently implies a limitation on power, which contradicts the idea of infinite power.
So long story short, people often just see the paradox, assume it’s right and then consider it fact. If people had dug deeper, they might’ve learnt something pretty interesting.
Weaker than Goku tho
That's actually really philosophical!
No, not really. It's stupid. It's like asking God to make a stick with one end. He is an omnipotent being; which means he can do anything that makes sense.
@prayingcranium you're confusing logic with possibility. It is possible to make a stone with any weight of you think about it. But a stick with one end is not but it would have to be outside the dimensional space that we live in. Making a rock with more weight each time is possible, if not, infinite. I agree that your logic is fair but it also doesn't correspond with omnipotence as it relates to having power whereas we talk about creation. But if you think about it. God can make a stick with one end but it wouldn't be visible to us due to dimensional laws. One dimensional you could say if viewed from such a point. But it's not logically possible to see a stick with one end in a 3d environment. But the rock being more in weight is something which should be possible. If God is omnipotent in your eyes, he should be able to create a rock that's unliftable even by him but then also be able to lift it. Your argument only supports the one end stick part but has nothing to do with if God can't do anything with it. In any sense, we can believe that God can change dimensional laws or even make it only viewable from a one dimensional array. It's impossible in the sense that it requires manipulation that is possible if we deem that God is omnipotent. But in the paradox mentioned in the video, such a experiment is certainly possible like we deemed that God is omnipotent but if he can never truly create a rock that he can't lift because if he can't lift a rock then he can't be all-powerful (omnipotence). It's a paradox which ultimately makes different viewpoints on the existence of a god. It doesn't mean that God doesn't exist but it gives us more factors into play when even considering if God is a real being. I do believe in god but up to now i do not have a definitive answer backing this paradox cuz it's a rather interesting yet broad sum of thought processed all into consideration.
@@Wolphins Well, I take the L on this one. You are way smarter than me.
@prayingcranium It's a good trait to accept defeat on certain topics when unaware of prior knowledge. I always like thinking outside the box? So that's helped me to reason with such an answer. I do love a good challenge when provided with one tho!
@@Wolphins I think its similar to this: A human creating a video game where a rock is so heavy, no in-game character can lift it(or a block so hard, no character can mine it). But the human itself can lift the rock by changing the lines of code, but the characters stuck in the game cant escape the matrix and change the code in a higher dimension. The question itself is illogical. The characters in the game cannot conclude that the creator is not all-powerful; the creator is all-powerful, to them.
Christian here.
I think it would be a contradictory statement to say that an infinitely powerful being can make something and be unable to lift it, making the claim illogical.
God is a maximal being, meaning God is all-logical, all-loving, all-wise, and in particular, all-powerful (I can go on about the attributes of God, but you get the point). This idea of being “all-powerful” was misunderstood in this video, for it excludes how God is a logical being, and therefore can only do logical things. By this, I mean that God can not create a square-circle or a window that is both open and closed, for the two definitions exclude each other and therefore are contradictory. This is known as the law of non-contradiction, where something cannot be true or false at the same time and sense.
When it was said that God is all-powerful, and therefore can create something that God cannot lift, it is claiming that an infinite power can create something more powerful than infinite. How much more weight do you need for God to not be able to lift it? More than infinite. What's more than infinite? There is nothing greater than infinity, so nothing. You cannot logically have something that a maximally powerful being cannot lift. It violates the law of non-contradiction because it says that there is something that is heavier than infinity, which is a contradictory statement.
What's bro yapping about
I dont think this problem is about power, but more about god's wish
God wished for the rock to be more powerful than him, and it wasnt, so in this problem: god couldnt follow his conviction
God is after all the creator of everything, that includes the logic he follows, so he could theoretically just bend the rules and lift that rock anyways, but then that rock isnt what god wished for: an unliftable rock
I think that's the problem at stakes
@@DugersurenAnand"i dont understand what youre saying so ill just ignore it"
I was about to say the same thanks
So oranges are orange.
Bro went from genius to drunk
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Triggered
Ur slow 😂
Just showing how illogical the idea of god is
Triggered? Facts don't care about your feelings. An omnipotent god is logically impossible.
@@AndrewJCFSuse your brain, could it be possible for God to create a square circle. No.
If yes, then here's the answer: that question is contradictory, it goes against the nature of a circle.
In the same way, cab God create a rock he can't lift and can lift goes against the idea of him being all powerful, the question itself is a contradiction.
bro drunk 50 gallons of beer😭🙏🍺
911: what's your emergency
Me: MY BRAIN IS NOT BRAINING
@@kylieguerrero542 why did u copy my comment I’m getting hate now that u copied mine and I clearly didn’t
@@kylieguerrero542 pls don’t copy my comment I’m getting hate now because of u
@@Justcallmeminty I'm sorry I didn't know 😓
@@kylieguerrero542 I’m srry I just can’t stand the hate I bet I wasn’t u just some smart guy is saying I copied when there are sooo many that are the same
@@Justcallmeminty dude I just wanted to comment this and it's not like you think that I checked the comments way down to see your's okay?
That would be equivalent to saying "Can he create a sayrensjqnfientogan?"
😂😂😂😂😂
Not really
@@eon9665 It is, it's just gibberish
All powerful -> defy logic -> create sayrensjqnfientogan
@@ScholarHaru the question is not gibberish, it's specifically asking if God is beyond logic, and if omnipotence is an attribute if God, then God would be inherently illogical, in other words, the concept of an omnipotent God is gibberish nonsense 🤷
He is beyond logic. he created logic
thats not how it works. It cant be "beyond" logic.
I better paradox than the rock would be a sqaure circle.
If god is all powerful can he make a sqaure circle? No he cant because a sqaure circle is contradictory and you cannot violate its shape definitions.
@@ToastEr-f3b Christ is beyond logic
@@justice8718 ok, so he can make a circular square? No he cant. And he isnt "beyond" logic. Because illogical things arent even things
You literally cannot iolate chape definitions no matter what because thats what defines a shape
@@ToastEr-f3byes he can actually, who are you to limit God’s power? 😂 but obviously u wouldn’t understand since u are NOT God.
@@justice8718Christ is not beyond logic he is a human being your bible states that God cannot be seen yet people seem Jesus
Just make the rock not be able to lift with his physical strength but be able to lift with his powers
*And being that God is the creator of logic, God can necessarily defy it.*
Omnipotence (god) cancels out omnipotence (rock) which leaves you with nothing
Meaning god doesn't exist
@@Lbozo-ev6kzNo, this is a valid response to the rock argument. We apply logic to the world, but if a theist defines their deity as not beholden to the logic of the world, then an all powerful deity could exist despite contradictions which would prove that anything else does not exist.
Essentially, you can’t use logic on a thing defined as above logic systems.
🤣🤣 you guys are funny being so sure bout everything
@@luky9_ Regardless of my stance on the position, argument from ignorance is not a strong way to support agnosticism. I suppose you could also be supporting absurdism, in which case I don’t see the connection to a deity.
That's actually a pretty cool divine entity design
Dr. ArmCloud? XD
Legit that’s a good design I’m stealing it
I had a stroke trying to understand why Zack would make this.
Edit: Damn, some of these replies are unhinged.
Something Something GOD
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Cause he can little bro
Omg are you okay!?
He’s just drunk
Bro
Literally broke my brain💀💀
"911 what is your emergency "
My brain is not braining
@KLMSkevmss shut up
@KLMSkevmssno
What’s gacha life
Stop these stupid comments
"Did you drink alcholol or is this a prank call"
I once heard this in a movie " If i started to explain you how it works your brain will come melting out of your ears " 🗿
God's of Egypt
simplest way of saying "Trust me bro"
@@MagnusArbatelnot really, the point is we as humans are not capable of such understanding, our knowledge is limited.
I love the God Rock argument. It’s so bad that it’s good lol
I love the god exist argument. it's so bad
@@solisimperium1203 I was referencing the fact that no philosopher actually takes this argument seriously, but it’s such a classic argument that it’s too good to leave behind. I’m not trying to make a case for the existence of god(s).
Everyone’s second favorite RUclips atheist Alex O’Connor shares this view with me, (see his video on arguments against god’s existence).
@@user-kv1po2dm5j who is the first favourite atheist youtuber?
If god is all powerful he can lift every rock. The statement cant lift a rock would be nonsensical so the question is flawed
@@chananjamajiji5412 There’s a niche meme that Genetically Modified Skeptic is everyone’s favorite atheist RUclipsr. Alex himself even joked about this. But I actually checked today and it turns out that Alex has surpassed Drew in subscribers now. So now he’s everyone’s *first* favorite atheist RUclipsr.
Bro's straight from bar today 😂
Makes big rock. "See I can't lift it"
"Lift it anyways"
"Hey big rock, move!"
Rock moves
Paradox solved via delegation
I love this
That makes sense
Then he can't create a rock he can't lift?
@@zerolamphe didn’t lift it, he made the rock move by telling it to move
@@zerolamp being all powerful means God is more powerful than human logic or comprehension.
He can make a rock that someone with his exact same strength couldn't lift but he could lift it
Wait,
So x = y and x>0>y?
(X is gods strength
Y is someone with gods strength)
0 is very big rock)
@notreaItangramice yep something like that so he makes a rock he can't lift and by bending the laws of physics he then can
You’re changing the situation. God needs to create a rock that he CANT lift. There are no work around he must not be able to lift it. Not a rock someone with his strength can’t lift. I don’t know where you pulled that bullshit out of your ass to cope but it’s called a paradox for a reason
No first of all God can't move objects that way and even if he can't lift it he can just make it move itself
@@IsaacLuce-m2lat least someone here knows that
that voice crack bruh 😭 "if sOoOoo"
Voice cracks definetly make stuff funny for pther ppl.
Bro had the wrong type of coke today 💀💀🤣
only his last line is wrong
The problem is that we are seeing with our limited human logic.
God's perspective of everything exceeds ours by countless times
I think were thinking abt wrong, he can create infinite rocks at infinite weight and be able to lift all of them
Basically god can defy logic because god can do anything, that makes sense in a way. But the other contradiction to this is supposedly since god is all powerful and can defy logic, why can’t god make a universe with both free will and no suffering? It doesn’t really have to defy logic to allow both but Christians insist it does so let’s just say it does defy logic then shouldn’t god still be able to do it anyways?
Because when Adam and eve ate the apple, and when man chose evil and selfish and sin and disobeyed him, that's when all the suffering started and continued on. He tried to end all this with the flood and with Sodom and gommorah and nineveh, multiple times but with ninevites he gave them a second chance. And sending Jesus to die on the cross for our sins so that even if you make mistakes or do bad or selfish things you won't go to hell. Of course there's still suffering in the world because the earth is corrupt and evil and cruel and cold.
You can't have free will and no suffering because when there's free will, people are capable of evil and selfishness and will use it for their own personal gain and their own ulterior motives and desires. And God has divine intervened multiple times and he will send his son Jesus to come back soon
Or so the Bible says Jesus is coming back soon, we don't know when or what day or week, months or years but we are in the end times and dark days and many events lined up with the Bible that the end is nigh
Bros taking “shit talk” to a whole new level 💀
In Islamic theology, God's omnipotence means He has unlimited power, but this does not include performing logically impossible tasks. The question of whether God can create a stone so heavy He cannot lift it is a paradox, not a true test of His power. It represents a logical contradiction, similar to asking if God can stop being God. Islamic scholars argue that God’s omnipotence is coherent within the bounds of reason, and logical fallacies do not limit His power.
Évidement, mais admettons qu'on pose réellement la question, il pourrait le soulever et ne pas pouvoir en même temps, ça s'appelle la dualité d'états quantiques....comme le démontre le chat de Shrödinger...
Mais oui, c'est logiquement Impossible à poser comme question même de créer quelque chose qui n'est pas sous le contrôle d'Allah, car par définition les créations sous soumises au pouvoir d'Allah. C'est une erreur de définition qu'il commet ici, en plus une erreur de représentation car le fait de soulever n'est pas le même pour dieu sachant qu'il ne ressemble à aucune de ses créatures...
What a cop-out.
True
@@Burusagiwhat is a cop-out
That's why the Trinity is Real.
Help my brain isn‘t braining anymore
Fr
1. Create unliftable rock
2. Try to lift it but don’t succeed
3. Give ability to lift rock.
4. Prove that god can do anything
5. Promptly enjoy success
lift the rock without giving yourself the ability
@ even better!!
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@tohtorimaaastrala2612 ?
Can god create a rock so heavy that he can’t give himself the power to lift it