There’s a glitch to make yoshi fall out of bounds that is super easy to do. Just walk on the bottom of the ocean to get to the pipe and boom - no more 10 minute boat ride. Seriously, even if it takes you 5 minutes to learn the trick, you mess it up, AND you need two attempts at the Lilly pad level, learning the glitch is still faster than riding the boats.
Isn't it funny how Mario and sonic both go to jail and are mistaken for criminals by doppelganger 's that anyone with a brain knows looks clearly very different in both of their 2 3d games? Strange.
Sonic had it worse. At least Mario got a trial. A blatantly rigged trial, but a trial nonetheless. Plus Mario got "released" the next day and did get to enjoy his vacation to a degree while on community service and saving Peach. Had Tails not tried to break Sonic out (only for Amy to be the one to do it somehow), he'd be in jail because G.U.N. didn't notice the guy they're looking for had different styled hair -and was black.-
@@espurrseyes42 Well, most humans from Station Square saw Sonic turn golden. Who's to say he can't turn black? (We know he can't but the humans of Sonic's world wouldn't know). Not only that, G.U.N was just covering stuff up. They didn't want the population to worry about a potential threat to humanity that they themselves kept locked up for half a century. The Piantas are just dumb.
@@zoomzike If you made a video for July or August in which you gush about Sunshine for 5 hours, I'd watch it. No, not joking. I love your "Identifying luck" series, they are like nerdy movies which I love. :)
I've had multiple dreams throughout my life where I would be exploring Delfino and stumble across something completely new, like a hidden level in the jail cell, or a boat out on the horizon on a stormy night. Stuff like this makes me want another game with a hub world just as detailed and stuffed with secrets as Sunshine was.
Honestly I have memories of just being a kid and turning this game on just to fuck around in the Plaza for like an hour. It's just so much fun, it's like it was designed with Mario's full range of motion in mind.
One of my favorite parts is the man on the island. At the end of the game, he returns to the rest of the island and to his pianta friends, yet he still stares at the island, as if he misses it and wants to go back.
I played this game for months when I was like 10 years old. I got about 10 shrines and spent hundreds of hours dicking around in delfino plaza and somehow never got bored.
Wow, never realized how many shine sprites were exclusively in Delfino Plaza. It definitely adds to the all the "hub-bub" that creates such a memorable atmosphere. I can't wait for more of the June Zoom!
I'd be interested to see a video about your thoughts on The Isle o' Hags in Banjo Tooie. It accomplishes a lot of the same things. It's a hub world which also has the same amount of collectibles in any level. It has all the levels thematically represented around where you enter them. In fact, the levels fit better into the hub world than they do in Super Mario Sunshine. It feels more like you're physically entering the locations than it does in Mario Sunshine since you just teleport to them in Sunshine. It's WAY more massive than Delfino Plaza. AND, it also tells a story as you progress through the world in the form of the tread tracks from the Hag 1 and the destruction it leaves behind.
I feel like with the obseryvatory looking at the amazing view and all the floating lumas and things being added gave it life especially seeing it fly in space
Many people probably thought of this but, imagine if Nintendo actually made a exact replica of delfino plaza that you can visit in, something like Disney land... Just saying...it could be possible someday...
There should be an open-world Mario game that you could run, jump, swim or whatever to each world or use warp pipes as shortcuts from to each world you've been to. Imagine returning to Yoshi's Island like that.
Growing up in Southern California a few hours from the beach I found enjoyment in playing sunshine. It was like having a mini day at the beach with Mario. I distinctly remember appreciating the heats rays in the game and how realistic they are( because as a kid I always wondered what heat rays were). Most of the things in the game I could drive a few hours to the beach and experience in real life but I appreciated the island setting I got to experience without having to travel. Still one of my favorite games of all time and so glad it’s on the switch now.
One other thing about Delphino Plaza is, that you can see pretty much every location from it, making it feel like a real place in the world and not like a "Yeah you teleport to this random place" thing (Am I right Mario Galaxy (2)???). I mean, you get a sense of scale when you can see Rico Harber (Did I spell it right) from the hub world itself. It's s detail so many hub worlds don't pay attention to. Also, I do agree that the Hub is more a Hub-Level Hybrid. And it's a perfect place to teach you mechanics in a safe environment. Instead of teaching you the turbo and rocket nozzle at dangerous levels can you unlock and use them in the hub, where no enemies, nor any deadly traps are. Giving you a safe place to get used to those new mechanics before giving you challenges to solve with them. It's such a minor, yet brilliant way to reduce frustration for learning new mechanics while not forcing a tutorial on you.
It’s really cool how you can make such a fascinating video with no background music whatsoever. Also this type of design kind of reminds me of Super Mario Odyssey.
Yeah, I like to experiment with music in my videos. Sometimes I do it, and sometimes I don't. What part of Mario Odyssey does Delfino Plaza remind you of?
ZoomZike The idea of it being a mix between hub and level, since a lot of Odyssey is gateways into “mini-levels”, and most areas of Odyssey have some sort of town section. Then New Donk City just straight up feels like an expanded hub world since there’s no enemies lol.
I thought the same thing! I actually think that hub-slash-level design is a big reason that I didn't like Odyssey as much as many other people - each world feels like something that SHOULD grow and evolve over the course of the entire game, but you're constantly leaving them behind before they have an opportunity to do so.
Hubworld-levels are an interesting concept that deserves further exploration. Distinct from normal levels they usually, they have few or no enemies. Death is either impossible at least unlikely. This makes sense for a number of reasons. 1. For new players, a hubworld level can be like a low-key tutorial. Even old players who are just coming back to it will be able to reacquaint themselves with the basics of the controls in an environment that isn't going to kill them if they screw around too much. 2. You end up in the hubworld a lot, so facing repeated difficulties there can be annoying. 3. For pacing or story reasons, the hubworld is often employed as a break from violence and tension. They provide the player a chance to feel like a part of the world rather than a hostile invader. If movement is enjoyable and the world is well crafted, players can enjoy the game in a different way just by moving around a calm hubworld and taking it in. But hubworld levels are still levels, and do have some challenges to beat and objectives to achieve. The result is a different kind of difficulty compared to the rest of the game. From a game design perceptive, this is an opportunity to experiment with the games systems that an ordinary level doesn't necessarily employ. An example would be in Mario 64 where using the first person function of the camera to look up at the mosaic would allow access to a sky level. Another would be in Shantae and the Pirates Curse, where a collectible is hidden in such a way that you have to use all of your late-game jumping abilities in concert in order to acquire it. Spyro 2 has a collectible locked behind a pair of doors. Opening one closes the other. In order to progress, you have to fly from one window to the other and ignore them entirely. There are also Thief enemies in all the Spyro games that don't attack you or get in the way, but chasing them down rewards a collectible. Hubworlds have a relaxed pace, so it makes sense to have objectives that reward exploration, experimentation, and execution. You can have objectives like that in any level, but the limitations on hubworlds brings them to the forefront
I really love how much of ZoomZike's content is just, him gushing about how much he loves something as simple as a "hub world" and why he likes it. He's not making content to get clicks or doing whatever's trendy, he's just talking about whatever he's feeling particularly excited or happy about, or maybe the opposite, regardless of current relevance. I feel like that's how I'd run a channel too, it sounds like such a nice, timeless way of making videos!
I'm gonna keep this short and sweet: Thank you for digging deep into a lot of our childhood memories. Really brings me joy to see this sorta stuff dug into, and SMS definitely holds a special place in my heart and, I'm sure, as well as others' too. Keep making what you wanna make and you'll keep striking home with someone, Zike.
(At the risk of spamming this comment section) it's crazy to me that Delfino Plaza didn't return in the post-game of Mario Odyssey. It plays really similarly to a lot of those worlds if you think about it, it's an open stage with a bunch of collectables that you can grab without being booted out, and it has a number of entrances into linear, more self-contained platforming challenges. Nintendo could have kept most of the secret levels as they are (with the exception of the Pachinko one), replaced all of the Blue Coins with Shines (and used some of those timed Scarecrow challenges to get around the cleaning mechanic), and then retooled any in-stage Shines that required Sunshine-specific mechanics to work using Odyssey's gameplay. Things like capturing a Yoshi to snatch birds out of the sky or capturing a Pianta's head-tree and flinging Mario into buildings similarly to how you would with the Volbonans in Luncheon Kingdom would have been a *lot* of fun and helped the level to feel fresh. They could have even brought back the Sunshine Yoshi-juice mechanic and had that Capture Ability for any challenges requiring Mario to clean graffiti. Hell we could have even seen the Blue Coin shop reimagined as a store where Regional Coins (collected primarily from the manhole tunnels) could be traded for Shines! Obviously a lot of tweaking would be required and some extra Capture Abilities would need to be added to stand in for the Rocket and Turbo nozzles, but right off the bat this stage would have around 45 "Moons", which is *more* than the Mushroom Kingdom has if we stick to the Castle Grounds and don't count the Toadette ones.
I love everything about this video, so well done. Sunshine's my favorite game from childhood and I just love it I love it so much, and delfino plaza ugh its just so beautiful
Sunshine did an amazing job creating an exciting, living world. Odyssey did a great job as well, but I don't think it even comes close to surpassing Sunshine's world. Especially because of Delfino Plaza. Every level is jam-packed with platforming, making it interesting and fun to traverse. Yet everything still feels like it has a purpose as well, and the NPC's do more than just stand around. Some walk, others run. It's so good. Odyssey was a great attempt, but I'm hoping we get an Odyssey 2 that comes just as close, if not better than Sunshine's level of excitement and liveliness. And if we don't get a proper hub world like Sunshine, maybe we could have a lively docking bay for airships that you return to after each kingdom, and you start off in every time you turn the game on. There could be all sorts of cool NPC's, things to do, and things that change throughout the adventure. It could be a best-of-both-worlds scenario. You can still fly to any kingdom you want, at any time. But there's still a hub that is important to your journey.
More great points about this game coming up! 1. Different nozzles give you different ways to beat a level 2. The music in the eel area in noki bay after you beat the boss is possibly the best water music 3. Pianta Village is *amazing* 4. Chucksters were an original idea that kept you on your toes though it could have been done better 5. Yoshi versions of stage music nuff said 6. The voice acting was hilarious 7. Turbo nozzle was fuuuunnnn
I always felt like Sunshine was the most immersive Mario game, and another contributing factor is the story. Regardless of how silly and unrealistic it is, it still gives everything in the game purpose and ties it all together. Most Mario games just have an excuse plot and random unrelated levels that mean nothing in context of the story.
Yes, Delfino Plaza is AMAZING. Also, I just realized... The Shine Sprites work like Stars in 64 and Galaxy, they are the main goal of a mission... But not in Delfino Plaza, when there's plenty of Shine Sprite scattered all around that work more like Odyssey's moon. Delfino Plaza is Mario Odyssey before Mario Odyssey! I also have to talk about the flood. When you unlock the Final Boss, at Corona Mountain, Delfino Plaza will be flooded, and all the Piantas are on houses' roofs. Firstly, it naturally leads the player to the Corona Mountain entrance, which is located higher than all the others level entries (Apart from Pianta Village), but it also make Delfino Plaza even more alive! Edit: And there's also the fact that you can see all the other levels around in the background, it makes Delfino Plaza (And the whole world of Sunshine as it's also in every level) feel even more believable.
I deeply, deeply love your passion for video games. Every video you post where it's JUST positivity and analysis is uplifting. It's incredible to see someone talk about how much they just love video games. I'm in awe of it.
100% agree! Best ever hub. It doesn't feel like a hub, it's got great music, and you have mechanics from each of the levels incorporated in how you get around the place and to new levels! Absolutely love it!
Randomly stumbled upon this channel and the content lowkey fills this void. No other RUclipsr speaks in this voice tone, while being funny and actually having a good accent to listen to, I subscribed after the first video I saw
I always loved how Delfino Plaza gradually got sunnier the further along you got in the game. Such a cool detail for one of the greatest games for the GameCube.
ZoomZike watching Mario gallivant thru Delfino Plaza makes me want to drive 600 miles to my parents house in New Jersey and get my old GameCube, just so I can play this & also gallivant thru Delfino Plaza.
A lot of good hub worlds feel connected to the rest of the locations. I actually love Dark Souls 3's shrine hub for the opposite reason: it's cut off from everywhere else which makes it stand out even more as a safe and comforting place.
I love Delfino Plaza because people other than Mario can actually live there and traverse the place, but BECAUSE you're Mario, you get to bounce on umbrellas, jump on rooftops and run through sewers. You also can't forget how there are birds that have specific spots they like to perch on, or how there are power-lines connecting some of the houses, I love how some of the trees have fruit that serve more of a purpose than just being Yoshi food. My favorite detail is whe you look at the sky, you can occasionally see planes flying overhead, complete with a long trail of clouds.
I love standing on top of the shine gate monument, taking in the beauty of Delfino Plaza while listening to that boppin' music. There's just nothing like that.
When I was young, I used to always keep a separate save file of the game during the flooded plaza segment just because I liked seeing how all the residents were coping with it.
Sunshine may not be my favorite 3D Mario, but I gotta say Delfino Plaza is hella good. I find myself humming the music often and I haven't played it in ages XD Also I love how it gets brighter as you progress through the game, I loved that at the Comet Observatory too 👀
Loving the frequent uploads, keep it up :) also just some advice, I think playing the Delfino Plaza music in the background of the audio would help liven up the video a bit. Otherwise good work!
If I were to take a wild guess, I would say it's because you actually not only get, but you actually HAVE to, do things in the plaza. For example: the portals that take you to different stages are fairly spread out around the plaza. Not only that, but you have to get to a certain place or spray a certain area to get to these areas. In addition, you can freely roam around, which lets you come up with strategies and find new moves. Then, the plaza is brought to life by the piantas, including the two tourists that can't figure out why the sky is so dark even though "the brochure said that the glowing sun is the main feature of the isle!" In addition, the plaza rewards you for exploration: you have to parkour from ship to ship with yoshi to unlock a special pipe, you have to land on the rooftop and give a pianta a coin and he'll yeet you right into a shine sprite, and all these little things that just reward you for thinking outside of the vox. Finally, the character dialogue actually changes as the story progresses. All this combined with simple beauty makes Delfino Plaza the best Hub world.
I have very vivid middle school memories of this game, I wasn't good at it, but I loved just roaming around with the hover nozzle. I remember I wish I had some kind of cheat that would allow me to use infinitely (or at least not have it shut off automatically after 5 seconds), I loved using it to extend my jumps and just have fun while going from building to building. Ah, the innocency of childhood...
Delfino Plaza holds a special, nostalgic place in my heart. Sunshine was one of the first video games I ever felt I got truly invested in growing up. Even today, despite not having played the game in well over a decade, I still know it like the back of my hand.
@@zoomzike totally, when I see the posters of shadow mario I immediately think of all the times I'd replay the game and chase him around that little loop. The deck with the umbrellas has the box minigame, the bell has a shine sprite (I think?), The boats lead to the islands and the plinko sub level, there's the guy that throws you into the tower with the shine, the blue coin in the prison, the shine drawing on the beach, the sub level you need the turbo nozzle for by the policemen, and the list goes on and on
you sir, say everything i feel about the plaza. Sunshine is one of my fave mario games, if not number one. Odyseey is a close second though. But this one, oh this one made mario's world feel less videogamey, and more like a real place.
Delfino Plaza is akin to Bikini Bottom from BFBB: it’s a hub world that does more than just give you access to other levels. You have challenges you can take on for more of your main collectible (Shine Sprites/Golden Spatulas) and side collectibles (Blue Coins/Socks). You can see most of the levels off into the distance from the mainlands. You get to see how the NPCs are dealing with their current situation. You are getting more access to parts of the hub each time you complete certain challenges. There are mechanics that you would see in the main levels present within the hubs, such as the buttons or Yoshi. You can add Peach’s Castle into this list if you want. Sure, there are other challenges for Stars in the Castle, but there’s barely any characters in there and you can’t see off into the distance to see what is coming. Plus, the worlds don’t naturally link together in 64, so it doesn’t feel like you are saving 1 Huge world, it feels like 16 separate worlds you are helping.
Delfino plaza needs to be a real place identical to Mario Sunshine in every way shape and form and connects to all the other stages, i'd totally live there
Too bad I can't talk about sunshine without Dunkey OR you being brought up I suppose. But no, for a game themed around "Vacations" Sunshine is one of those game worlds I can just spend a while chilling in, it's kinda relaxing.
Seeing you and dunkey both talk about sunshine today, with both of y'all honing in on how great Delfino Plaza is, really makes me want to play Sunshine again. I will say though, having thought about it now - wouldn't it be even sicker if the plaza had progressive music? Like, as you collect more shines and brighten the area up more and more, the music would become livelier, add more parts, and maybe even start slower and speed up a bit as you collect more? I think that'd do even more to add to the feeling that the island is coming alive as you restore the shine sprites - if I had to criticize the plaza as is, the way it lights up is a bit understated, as cool as it is.
Oh you're definitely right on the brightening up part. I wish it was more obvious that it was happening. I also wish that it did what'cha said with the music, which is something that the Comet Observatory in SMG did!
I Love that piantas that stuck in little island for years because he cant swim but in the end of the game he escape but he wish that he still stuck in there
Counter point: Delfino Plaza doesn't expand physically. Peach's castle in Mario 64, Grunty's Lair in Banjo-Kazooie, Isle O' Hags in Banjo-Tooie, even the comet observatory does this. I find that this expansion helps incentive me explore the hub further. It was rare when I thought I had something new to discover about Delfino Plaza... even though this is probably a tiny thing and everything else you said are still qualities of a good hub.
With SM64 and Galaxy, there were little to no collectables to be found in the hub world, so they had to find some way to give an incentive for exploring it, which they found in expansion. Because Delfino Plaza has shine sprites, it didn't need to go the expansion route, since the collectables are good enough inventive - if not more in my eyes - to explore.
@@zoomzike I have a counter point regarding that fact that the Delfino plaza shine sprites don't help you get to the final boss but I feel like that's going too far deep down the rabbit hole...
This games life has been similar to the windwaker in how they were both disliked/hated at first. The only real difference is that people began loving the windwaker years ago whereas it feels like sunshine began being appreciated like last year. I guess better late than never, but this was always the greatest mario 3d platformer. Can't wait for a remake/sequel.
I hear Zike saying what’s the purpose of Delfino plaza my mind immediately thinks the purpose is for more of those annoying blue coins. But really I love this hub world it’s the perfect and it’s one of the reasons sunshine is my favorite game.
Sunshine is a special gem to me, it doesn't really have much going for it, but it also doesn't do anything wrong. It's a little bland sticking with the tropical theme throughout the entire game, but I really enjoy the secret courses.
Things to do once I get really rich: 1. Build a scale 1/1 model of Luigi's Mansion, then live in it 2. Build a scale 1/1 model of Delfino Plaza then make it a real resort town.
LOOK I KNOW DUNKEY ALREADY POSTED A VIDEO OF SUNSHINE TODAY, I'M A LITTLE SEA SALTY FROM IT, LEAVE ME BE ;~;
Sorry. It'll be good for getting a whole bunch of comments, at least.
not even close baybee~
ZoomZike it’s ok, it just makes this even more special! More sunshine! Yes!
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(but also whatever you wanna make cause you bring up a lotta cool stuff already)
The only thing i felt similar in both was the love for the game, the reviews are completely different.
“I love how I have to stand for minutes on a boat riding a Yoshi just so I can access ONE secret level”
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@@zoomzike bruh
There’s a glitch to make yoshi fall out of bounds that is super easy to do. Just walk on the bottom of the ocean to get to the pipe and boom - no more 10 minute boat ride. Seriously, even if it takes you 5 minutes to learn the trick, you mess it up, AND you need two attempts at the Lilly pad level, learning the glitch is still faster than riding the boats.
“For the player’s convenience”
Isn't it funny how Mario and sonic both go to jail and are mistaken for criminals by doppelganger 's that anyone with a brain knows looks clearly very different in both of their 2 3d games?
Strange.
I think there is WAY less of an excuse for jailing up Mario than Sonic. With Mario, he literally landed and STILL got arrested.
Sonic had it worse. At least Mario got a trial. A blatantly rigged trial, but a trial nonetheless. Plus Mario got "released" the next day and did get to enjoy his vacation to a degree while on community service and saving Peach. Had Tails not tried to break Sonic out (only for Amy to be the one to do it somehow), he'd be in jail because G.U.N. didn't notice the guy they're looking for had different styled hair -and was black.-
@@espurrseyes42 Well, most humans from Station Square saw Sonic turn golden. Who's to say he can't turn black? (We know he can't but the humans of Sonic's world wouldn't know). Not only that, G.U.N was just covering stuff up. They didn't want the population to worry about a potential threat to humanity that they themselves kept locked up for half a century. The Piantas are just dumb.
@@zoomzike well sonic does destroy property so yeah that's more justified.
look at the covers of Mario Sunshine and Sonic Adventure DX side-by-side
"It would take me hours-"
WE GOT TIME
I DON'T THOUGH, GOTTA GET THE NEXT VID OUT xD
@@zoomzike If you made a video for July or August in which you gush about Sunshine for 5 hours, I'd watch it. No, not joking. I love your "Identifying luck" series, they are like nerdy movies which I love. :)
Some of the sublevels in the plaza can frick right off though. The lily pad and pachinko ones in particular.
YE PRETTY MUCH
I love the main hub in sunshine. As a kid I would spend hours just running around and enjoying its atmosphere
I feel ya on that
I've had multiple dreams throughout my life where I would be exploring Delfino and stumble across something completely new, like a hidden level in the jail cell, or a boat out on the horizon on a stormy night. Stuff like this makes me want another game with a hub world just as detailed and stuffed with secrets as Sunshine was.
Man I hope we get another one like this one day!
Honestly I have memories of just being a kid and turning this game on just to fuck around in the Plaza for like an hour. It's just so much fun, it's like it was designed with Mario's full range of motion in mind.
One of my favorite parts is the man on the island. At the end of the game, he returns to the rest of the island and to his pianta friends, yet he still stares at the island, as if he misses it and wants to go back.
I played this game for months when I was like 10 years old.
I got about 10 shrines and spent hundreds of hours dicking around in delfino plaza and somehow never got bored.
... How did I get a heart 6 months after I made this comment?
Wow, never realized how many shine sprites were exclusively in Delfino Plaza. It definitely adds to the all the "hub-bub" that creates such a memorable atmosphere. I can't wait for more of the June Zoom!
There's technically 40 if you count the blue coin ones! But aside from those, there's 16!! That's pretty crazy! Thanks!!
I'd be interested to see a video about your thoughts on The Isle o' Hags in Banjo Tooie. It accomplishes a lot of the same things. It's a hub world which also has the same amount of collectibles in any level. It has all the levels thematically represented around where you enter them. In fact, the levels fit better into the hub world than they do in Super Mario Sunshine. It feels more like you're physically entering the locations than it does in Mario Sunshine since you just teleport to them in Sunshine. It's WAY more massive than Delfino Plaza. AND, it also tells a story as you progress through the world in the form of the tread tracks from the Hag 1 and the destruction it leaves behind.
As a game dev myself, I love these. Short and sweet, this is great!
I feel like with the obseryvatory looking at the amazing view and all the floating lumas and things being added gave it life especially seeing it fly in space
Many people probably thought of this but, imagine if Nintendo actually made a exact replica of delfino plaza that you can visit in, something like Disney land...
Just saying...it could be possible someday...
Oh. My. God. I would just live there.
I literally would pack my bags immediately and live on real life Delfino Plaza.
I must petition Nintendo.
In Nintendo land
I would love to see that lol, and possibly the castle from SM64
I remember trying to swim to Rico Harbor from the plaza as a kid.
How'd that work out for ya? xD
Not so good! But the illusion that you "could" swim there is good enough for me.
Imagine if you could swim to literally anywhere in Sunshine. As in, the whole place was one map. Excluding minilevels and Coro-nope Mountain.
There should be an open-world Mario game that you could run, jump, swim or whatever to each world or use warp pipes as shortcuts from to each world you've been to. Imagine returning to Yoshi's Island like that.
Me to! A super mario sunshine mod by the name of “Super mario sunburn” does exactly this.
When you realize how spoiled your childhood was with how well designed games from that era really were.
I always love hub worlds that have actual stuff in them to do. Mario Sunshine, the Banjo games, the Spyro games. Exactly what I like in hub worlds.
Growing up in Southern California a few hours from the beach I found enjoyment in playing sunshine. It was like having a mini day at the beach with Mario. I distinctly remember appreciating the heats rays in the game and how realistic they are( because as a kid I always wondered what heat rays were). Most of the things in the game I could drive a few hours to the beach and experience in real life but I appreciated the island setting I got to experience without having to travel. Still one of my favorite games of all time and so glad it’s on the switch now.
Pianta inside open window:
“I’m gonna pay you $100 to fuck off”
One other thing about Delphino Plaza is, that you can see pretty much every location from it, making it feel like a real place in the world and not like a "Yeah you teleport to this random place" thing (Am I right Mario Galaxy (2)???).
I mean, you get a sense of scale when you can see Rico Harber (Did I spell it right) from the hub world itself. It's s detail so many hub worlds don't pay attention to.
Also, I do agree that the Hub is more a Hub-Level Hybrid. And it's a perfect place to teach you mechanics in a safe environment. Instead of teaching you the turbo and rocket nozzle at dangerous levels can you unlock and use them in the hub, where no enemies, nor any deadly traps are. Giving you a safe place to get used to those new mechanics before giving you challenges to solve with them.
It's such a minor, yet brilliant way to reduce frustration for learning new mechanics while not forcing a tutorial on you.
It’s really cool how you can make such a fascinating video with no background music whatsoever. Also this type of design kind of reminds me of Super Mario Odyssey.
Yeah, I like to experiment with music in my videos. Sometimes I do it, and sometimes I don't. What part of Mario Odyssey does Delfino Plaza remind you of?
ZoomZike The idea of it being a mix between hub and level, since a lot of Odyssey is gateways into “mini-levels”, and most areas of Odyssey have some sort of town section. Then New Donk City just straight up feels like an expanded hub world since there’s no enemies lol.
I thought the same thing! I actually think that hub-slash-level design is a big reason that I didn't like Odyssey as much as many other people - each world feels like something that SHOULD grow and evolve over the course of the entire game, but you're constantly leaving them behind before they have an opportunity to do so.
JoraffProductions In contrast, I like hub worlds to the point where I bought Sonic Rush Adventure over the original just because it had one lol.
would you believe me if i told you the same company made both games?
Loved this vid! I really need to play through Sunshine again. It always makes me feel like I'm on holiday, especially Delfino Plaza and Gelato Beach.
Oh yeah, I wish we had more stuff like this coming out
Hubworld-levels are an interesting concept that deserves further exploration.
Distinct from normal levels they usually, they have few or no enemies. Death is either impossible at least unlikely. This makes sense for a number of reasons.
1. For new players, a hubworld level can be like a low-key tutorial. Even old players who are just coming back to it will be able to reacquaint themselves with the basics of the controls in an environment that isn't going to kill them if they screw around too much.
2. You end up in the hubworld a lot, so facing repeated difficulties there can be annoying.
3. For pacing or story reasons, the hubworld is often employed as a break from violence and tension. They provide the player a chance to feel like a part of the world rather than a hostile invader. If movement is enjoyable and the world is well crafted, players can enjoy the game in a different way just by moving around a calm hubworld and taking it in.
But hubworld levels are still levels, and do have some challenges to beat and objectives to achieve. The result is a different kind of difficulty compared to the rest of the game. From a game design perceptive, this is an opportunity to experiment with the games systems that an ordinary level doesn't necessarily employ.
An example would be in Mario 64 where using the first person function of the camera to look up at the mosaic would allow access to a sky level.
Another would be in Shantae and the Pirates Curse, where a collectible is hidden in such a way that you have to use all of your late-game jumping abilities in concert in order to acquire it.
Spyro 2 has a collectible locked behind a pair of doors. Opening one closes the other. In order to progress, you have to fly from one window to the other and ignore them entirely. There are also Thief enemies in all the Spyro games that don't attack you or get in the way, but chasing them down rewards a collectible.
Hubworlds have a relaxed pace, so it makes sense to have objectives that reward exploration, experimentation, and execution. You can have objectives like that in any level, but the limitations on hubworlds brings them to the forefront
I really love how much of ZoomZike's content is just, him gushing about how much he loves something as simple as a "hub world" and why he likes it. He's not making content to get clicks or doing whatever's trendy, he's just talking about whatever he's feeling particularly excited or happy about, or maybe the opposite, regardless of current relevance. I feel like that's how I'd run a channel too, it sounds like such a nice, timeless way of making videos!
I love the list of things you love at the end of the video. Delphino Plaza is the coolest hub ever.
I'm gonna keep this short and sweet:
Thank you for digging deep into a lot of our childhood memories. Really brings me joy to see this sorta stuff dug into, and SMS definitely holds a special place in my heart and, I'm sure, as well as others' too.
Keep making what you wanna make and you'll keep striking home with someone, Zike.
I'll always keep digging into the stuff that I'm passionate about
(At the risk of spamming this comment section) it's crazy to me that Delfino Plaza didn't return in the post-game of Mario Odyssey. It plays really similarly to a lot of those worlds if you think about it, it's an open stage with a bunch of collectables that you can grab without being booted out, and it has a number of entrances into linear, more self-contained platforming challenges.
Nintendo could have kept most of the secret levels as they are (with the exception of the Pachinko one), replaced all of the Blue Coins with Shines (and used some of those timed Scarecrow challenges to get around the cleaning mechanic), and then retooled any in-stage Shines that required Sunshine-specific mechanics to work using Odyssey's gameplay. Things like capturing a Yoshi to snatch birds out of the sky or capturing a Pianta's head-tree and flinging Mario into buildings similarly to how you would with the Volbonans in Luncheon Kingdom would have been a *lot* of fun and helped the level to feel fresh. They could have even brought back the Sunshine Yoshi-juice mechanic and had that Capture Ability for any challenges requiring Mario to clean graffiti. Hell we could have even seen the Blue Coin shop reimagined as a store where Regional Coins (collected primarily from the manhole tunnels) could be traded for Shines!
Obviously a lot of tweaking would be required and some extra Capture Abilities would need to be added to stand in for the Rocket and Turbo nozzles, but right off the bat this stage would have around 45 "Moons", which is *more* than the Mushroom Kingdom has if we stick to the Castle Grounds and don't count the Toadette ones.
I love everything about this video, so well done. Sunshine's my favorite game from childhood and I just love it I love it so much, and delfino plaza ugh its just so beautiful
Sunshine did an amazing job creating an exciting, living world. Odyssey did a great job as well, but I don't think it even comes close to surpassing Sunshine's world. Especially because of Delfino Plaza. Every level is jam-packed with platforming, making it interesting and fun to traverse. Yet everything still feels like it has a purpose as well, and the NPC's do more than just stand around. Some walk, others run. It's so good.
Odyssey was a great attempt, but I'm hoping we get an Odyssey 2 that comes just as close, if not better than Sunshine's level of excitement and liveliness.
And if we don't get a proper hub world like Sunshine, maybe we could have a lively docking bay for airships that you return to after each kingdom, and you start off in every time you turn the game on. There could be all sorts of cool NPC's, things to do, and things that change throughout the adventure. It could be a best-of-both-worlds scenario. You can still fly to any kingdom you want, at any time. But there's still a hub that is important to your journey.
I swear, if I could pick any location from any video game to go for summer... I'd pick Isle Delfino every time.
More great points about this game coming up!
1. Different nozzles give you different ways to beat a level
2. The music in the eel area in noki bay after you beat the boss is possibly the best water music
3. Pianta Village is *amazing*
4. Chucksters were an original idea that kept you on your toes though it could have been done better
5. Yoshi versions of stage music nuff said
6. The voice acting was hilarious
7. Turbo nozzle was fuuuunnnn
Yes x7
I liked Delfino Plaza but nothing will ever beat the feeling of exploring Peach's Castle as a child.
Always loved this place and I think you did it justice :)
I always felt like Sunshine was the most immersive Mario game, and another contributing factor is the story. Regardless of how silly and unrealistic it is, it still gives everything in the game purpose and ties it all together. Most Mario games just have an excuse plot and random unrelated levels that mean nothing in context of the story.
You should try Galaxy. It’s pretty immersive and has a story like Sunshine.
bro dunkey was just talkin about this
NO
@@zoomzike fair. sunshine deserves the praise anyway
Ever notice dunkey and zike are never in the same room together??
God I love looking at this game in HD
Yes, Delfino Plaza is AMAZING.
Also, I just realized... The Shine Sprites work like Stars in 64 and Galaxy, they are the main goal of a mission... But not in Delfino Plaza, when there's plenty of Shine Sprite scattered all around that work more like Odyssey's moon.
Delfino Plaza is Mario Odyssey before Mario Odyssey!
I also have to talk about the flood.
When you unlock the Final Boss, at Corona Mountain, Delfino Plaza will be flooded, and all the Piantas are on houses' roofs.
Firstly, it naturally leads the player to the Corona Mountain entrance, which is located higher than all the others level entries (Apart from Pianta Village), but it also make Delfino Plaza even more alive!
Edit: And there's also the fact that you can see all the other levels around in the background, it makes Delfino Plaza (And the whole world of Sunshine as it's also in every level) feel even more believable.
You sure love the GC era ey, both good games and nostalgia.
I think you're born around 1993-1995 based on this tidbit of insight
I deeply, deeply love your passion for video games. Every video you post where it's JUST positivity and analysis is uplifting. It's incredible to see someone talk about how much they just love video games. I'm in awe of it.
Still loving the june zoom. Delfino has a special place in my heart, too.
100% agree!
Best ever hub. It doesn't feel like a hub, it's got great music, and you have mechanics from each of the levels incorporated in how you get around the place and to new levels! Absolutely love it!
Randomly stumbled upon this channel and the content lowkey fills this void. No other RUclipsr speaks in this voice tone, while being funny and actually having a good accent to listen to, I subscribed after the first video I saw
I always loved how Delfino Plaza gradually got sunnier the further along you got in the game. Such a cool detail for one of the greatest games for the GameCube.
I wish it would stay darker for a _little_ longer so it was more noticeable, but it's REALLY cool!!
ZoomZike watching Mario gallivant thru Delfino Plaza makes me want to drive 600 miles to my parents house in New Jersey and get my old GameCube, just so I can play this & also gallivant thru Delfino Plaza.
A lot of good hub worlds feel connected to the rest of the locations.
I actually love Dark Souls 3's shrine hub for the opposite reason: it's cut off from everywhere else which makes it stand out even more as a safe and comforting place.
I love Delfino Plaza because people other than Mario can actually live there and traverse the place, but BECAUSE you're Mario, you get to bounce on umbrellas, jump on rooftops and run through sewers.
You also can't forget how there are birds that have specific spots they like to perch on, or how there are power-lines connecting some of the houses, I love how some of the trees have fruit that serve more of a purpose than just being Yoshi food. My favorite detail is whe you look at the sky, you can occasionally see planes flying overhead, complete with a long trail of clouds.
I totally agree with this... They could've totally slapped the levels on a brochure, and just be like here's the game
They could've! I'm glad they didn't!
Delfino plaza a great place
YE
I love standing on top of the shine gate monument, taking in the beauty of Delfino Plaza while listening to that boppin' music. There's just nothing like that.
When I was young, I used to always keep a separate save file of the game during the flooded plaza segment just because I liked seeing how all the residents were coping with it.
I can literally live in SPM's Flipside for hours. There's just something about it that's just so good.
Oh Flipside is pretty cool too tbh.
Can you do an in-depth look at Sunshine's other levels like you did with Delfino Plaza in this video?
Sunshine may not be my favorite 3D Mario, but I gotta say Delfino Plaza is hella good. I find myself humming the music often and I haven't played it in ages XD
Also I love how it gets brighter as you progress through the game, I loved that at the Comet Observatory too 👀
Loving the frequent uploads, keep it up :) also just some advice, I think playing the Delfino Plaza music in the background of the audio would help liven up the video a bit. Otherwise good work!
If I were to take a wild guess, I would say it's because you actually not only get, but you actually HAVE to, do things in the plaza. For example: the portals that take you to different stages are fairly spread out around the plaza. Not only that, but you have to get to a certain place or spray a certain area to get to these areas. In addition, you can freely roam around, which lets you come up with strategies and find new moves. Then, the plaza is brought to life by the piantas, including the two tourists that can't figure out why the sky is so dark even though "the brochure said that the glowing sun is the main feature of the isle!" In addition, the plaza rewards you for exploration: you have to parkour from ship to ship with yoshi to unlock a special pipe, you have to land on the rooftop and give a pianta a coin and he'll yeet you right into a shine sprite, and all these little things that just reward you for thinking outside of the vox. Finally, the character dialogue actually changes as the story progresses. All this combined with simple beauty makes Delfino Plaza the best Hub world.
You make a good point about hub worlds providing immersion. I think Sonic did that really well in Adventure 1.
Sunshine is the best Mario game and you can't convince me otherwise
I won't try to!
Can't fight facts.
I have very vivid middle school memories of this game, I wasn't good at it, but I loved just roaming around with the hover nozzle. I remember I wish I had some kind of cheat that would allow me to use infinitely (or at least not have it shut off automatically after 5 seconds), I loved using it to extend my jumps and just have fun while going from building to building. Ah, the innocency of childhood...
Hold on, YOU CAN GET A NEW SHIRT?? God I love details like that. And I love your enthusiasm. :) It's infectious!
Delfino Plaza holds a special, nostalgic place in my heart. Sunshine was one of the first video games I ever felt I got truly invested in growing up. Even today, despite not having played the game in well over a decade, I still know it like the back of my hand.
It really does a good job at fleshing out each part in your memory, if that makes sense xP
@@zoomzike totally, when I see the posters of shadow mario I immediately think of all the times I'd replay the game and chase him around that little loop. The deck with the umbrellas has the box minigame, the bell has a shine sprite (I think?), The boats lead to the islands and the plinko sub level, there's the guy that throws you into the tower with the shine, the blue coin in the prison, the shine drawing on the beach, the sub level you need the turbo nozzle for by the policemen, and the list goes on and on
This passion can only leave me to say one thing. Another hit.
BUT OF COURSE
you sir, say everything i feel about the plaza. Sunshine is one of my fave mario games, if not number one. Odyseey is a close second though. But this one, oh this one made mario's world feel less videogamey, and more like a real place.
I love your energy in these videos so much
Delfino Plaza is akin to Bikini Bottom from BFBB: it’s a hub world that does more than just give you access to other levels. You have challenges you can take on for more of your main collectible (Shine Sprites/Golden Spatulas) and side collectibles (Blue Coins/Socks). You can see most of the levels off into the distance from the mainlands. You get to see how the NPCs are dealing with their current situation. You are getting more access to parts of the hub each time you complete certain challenges. There are mechanics that you would see in the main levels present within the hubs, such as the buttons or Yoshi. You can add Peach’s Castle into this list if you want. Sure, there are other challenges for Stars in the Castle, but there’s barely any characters in there and you can’t see off into the distance to see what is coming. Plus, the worlds don’t naturally link together in 64, so it doesn’t feel like you are saving 1 Huge world, it feels like 16 separate worlds you are helping.
Delfino plaza needs to be a real place identical to Mario Sunshine in every way shape and form and connects to all the other stages, i'd totally live there
Wow thats a lot of cool info you got there this video is underapreciated af
Thaaaaaaaanks
One of my favourite Mario games. The control itself makes it so much fun in my eyes.
I like it a lot too!
Delphino Plaza is just purgatory for Mario and friends because their plane crashed on the air-strip and they're all dead.
No ;~;
Too bad I can't talk about sunshine without Dunkey OR you being brought up I suppose.
But no, for a game themed around "Vacations" Sunshine is one of those game worlds I can just spend a while chilling in, it's kinda relaxing.
I love that this video came out during the same day that dunkey's dunkview also released
ahhh delfino plaza.. yet another great vid from the june zoom. loving all the content!
Glad I wasn’t the only one who loved sunshine this much
The spin jump doe. You just FLY
I actually really like the first stage with the plane, the song is really vibing
The fortress of Doom: I'm about to end this man's whole career.
Nothing like running around the sunny city it's-self.
Seeing you and dunkey both talk about sunshine today, with both of y'all honing in on how great Delfino Plaza is, really makes me want to play Sunshine again.
I will say though, having thought about it now - wouldn't it be even sicker if the plaza had progressive music? Like, as you collect more shines and brighten the area up more and more, the music would become livelier, add more parts, and maybe even start slower and speed up a bit as you collect more? I think that'd do even more to add to the feeling that the island is coming alive as you restore the shine sprites - if I had to criticize the plaza as is, the way it lights up is a bit understated, as cool as it is.
Oh you're definitely right on the brightening up part. I wish it was more obvious that it was happening. I also wish that it did what'cha said with the music, which is something that the Comet Observatory in SMG did!
“I love how we still get the fruit back”
I was just playing Sunshine a few hours ago
How far along are you?
ZoomZike I just started playing, I beat the gooper blooper boss.
Sunshine is UNBELIEVABLY underrated. No Mario game to me has topped this.
I Love that piantas that stuck in little island for years because he cant swim but in the end of the game he escape but he wish that he still stuck in there
Delfino plaza is my favorite hubworld of all time
Counter point: Delfino Plaza doesn't expand physically. Peach's castle in Mario 64, Grunty's Lair in Banjo-Kazooie, Isle O' Hags in Banjo-Tooie, even the comet observatory does this. I find that this expansion helps incentive me explore the hub further. It was rare when I thought I had something new to discover about Delfino Plaza... even though this is probably a tiny thing and everything else you said are still qualities of a good hub.
With SM64 and Galaxy, there were little to no collectables to be found in the hub world, so they had to find some way to give an incentive for exploring it, which they found in expansion. Because Delfino Plaza has shine sprites, it didn't need to go the expansion route, since the collectables are good enough inventive - if not more in my eyes - to explore.
@@zoomzike I have a counter point regarding that fact that the Delfino plaza shine sprites don't help you get to the final boss but I feel like that's going too far deep down the rabbit hole...
@@zoomzike SM64 _technically_ has Stars in the castle. But the Secret Stars are kept either to toads or mini-levels.
you're really spoiling us with all these uploads omg 😭
And you'll keep getting spoiled until the end of the month!
@@zoomzike you're both amazing and crazy and SUPER UNDERRATED oh my god
keep up the amazing work but don't burn yourself out doing it ! ;;;
I stand by this enthusiastic man and his opinion! :D
you just pointed out alot of details I never noticed :)
It hurts me to say that I’ve never fully beaten sunshine (which I now plan to change) but it is still one of my favorite games to watch speedrun
BEAT ITTTT
deconstruct the entirety of delfino island and why you love it, and you still get the fruit back
It really is the only plausible choice for the perfect hub world.
Yeah pretty much, at least from what I know!
This games life has been similar to the windwaker in how they were both disliked/hated at first. The only real difference is that people began loving the windwaker years ago whereas it feels like sunshine began being appreciated like last year. I guess better late than never, but this was always the greatest mario 3d platformer. Can't wait for a remake/sequel.
Yeah honestly, I can't say that any other 3D Mario was more fun for me than Sunshine...maybe? I'd have to really think on that. It's awesome though!
I hear Zike saying what’s the purpose of Delfino plaza my mind immediately thinks the purpose is for more of those annoying blue coins. But really I love this hub world it’s the perfect and it’s one of the reasons sunshine is my favorite game.
I resonate with that pretty hard, as you can tell xP
I wish every level had the design philosophy of the Plaza.
Delfino Plaza... the place zoomzike would like to live in but then want to leave immedietly
...no, it's honestly scary how I care about a fictional place more than some real ones.
This is literally the perfect hub world
Sunshine is a special gem to me, it doesn't really have much going for it, but it also doesn't do anything wrong.
It's a little bland sticking with the tropical theme throughout the entire game, but I really enjoy the secret courses.
You are so underrated as a creator
Things to do once I get really rich:
1. Build a scale 1/1 model of Luigi's Mansion, then live in it
2. Build a scale 1/1 model of Delfino Plaza then make it a real resort town.
Yep Defino is the BEST!
10/10
I want to play this game but those grates you destroy with Yoshi is nightmare fuel for me
Delfino Plaza is perfect.