Before you buy a Taylor or a Martin Acoustic Guitar... Watch this | Orangewood Ava TS Live
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
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Orangewood bring us this solid mahogany Grand Concert Acoustic with a torrified Spruce Top and the LR Baggs Anthem pickup system for under $1100 How is is possible? Orangewood have a unique business model that allows them to ship direct to you without a middle man.
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00:00 Unboxing the Orangewood Ava TS Live
01:34 First impressions of the Orangewood Ava TS Live
03:33 The Orangewood Ava TS Live has a LR Baggs Anthem Pickup
04:25 Where is the Orangewood Ava TS Live Made?
05:25 Sound Sample 1 Orangewood Ava TS Live Room Mic
07:39 Orangewood Ava TS Live Pickup VS Stereo Condenser Mics
11:31 Does the Orangewood Ava TS Live pass the Capo Test?
13:49 is the Orangewood Ava TS Live a good Acoustic Guitar for Recording?
14:50 The LR Baggs Anthem - Piezo Vs Internal Mic
16:12 The Guitar Geek Reviews the Orangewood Ava TS Live
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What is the best cheap acoustic guitar because I need to test an affordable professional acoustic guitar that sounds like a taylor but i need something that doesn't suck and want to know if there are any good acoustic grand concert guitars under $1000 because you've never heard a budget acoustic guitar sound like this and you need this to get good at acoustic guitar before this guy loses it at guitar centre and this is the cheapest acoustic on amazon but i bought the cheapest acoustic guitar on wish and i bought the cheapest acoustic guitar on temu for beginners. Taylor. Fender. Martin. Harley Benton. Gibson.
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Thank you for your review. Here's mine:
I am a retired guitar repairman in the eastern United States. I was authorized by C. F. Martin and other respected brands to do warranty service on their guitars. I had never heard of Orangewood until I watched Mary Spender's RUclips video a few months ago in which she compares her Martin guitar to her Orangewood guitar. I decided to give Orangewood a try. I bought a factory-second, non-electrified, mahogany-topped Ava. The only "secondness" I can find about it is that it came without the high E string, and the nut grooves could stand to be a hair lower, two easily-solved problems. Skipping all the nuances of a full-fledged review, I'll skip directly to my conclusion: My Orangewood Ava guitar is the most bang-for-the-buck acoustic guitar I have ever seen. Period.
I have that same guitar (I think-my Ava is solid mahogany top, sides and bottom) and, while it seems well made, I greatly dislike its sound. It's dull and blah. While some of the strings reverberate, the bass E string doesn't at all. The best thing I can say about it is that it didn't set me back but $700 and that it comes in a nice hard case.
The stick is a tool to use for adjusting the Baggs Anthem which normally comes with the SL model, not the full Anthem. I really like the tone of the Ava. Looks nice I like that it’s not covered in thick gloss. I also like that it has an actual name and not a bunch of letters and numbers that make it hard to remember. Beautiful playing on the Ava!
The “stick” actually IS for adjustment on the full anthem. Theres a small place to adjust by the battery check button on the sound hole preamp. This is direct from the user manual. Hope it helps someone. “E. MIC LEVEL CONTROL (Adjusts the level of the Tru • Mic relative to the level of the Element)
IMPORTANT: Setting this control correctly is vital to the sound of the Anthem system.
First, you must roll the mix control completely toward the neck. Play through a P.A. or acoustic amplifier while you are making adjustments. A small flat-head jeweler's screwdriver will be needed.
Your amplified tone should be well balanced and true to the acoustic sound and feel of the guitar. If it lacks clarity and top-end, increase the mic's level by turning the control clockwise. Back it off slightly If you experience excessive handling noise and/or brightness.” This works in place of the small flat head screwdriver. Cheers.
I got a good chuckle out of "the stick" that you found in the case. I agree 100%, this is one of the most well balanced across the frequency spectrum, exactly was most folks should probably want. Thanks for bringing this to us!
What I really like about your videos is that big grin on your face Andy.... it's your genuine enjoyment coming through the screen ☺️
I bought the Sage Torrified Spruce Live which is a slightly larger cutaway body, but otherwise exactly the same specs. I love it. I run it through a LR Baggs Voice Print DI and it brings the internal pickup sound extremely close to the sound of the live guitar.
Great review, thank you. I've had my AVA Mahogany for a couple of years now and she has aged very well. I didn't buy the live version and instead had my local shop install a K&K, which works perfectly. I use mine a lot for open tunings, especially open G. Definitely worth the price and then some.
Fantastic review! Thank you for the share!!
Another cool review. Really enjoy your channel, keep up the great work.
Love my Orangewood Oliver Mahogany Live which has a Fishman pickup !!!! They truly make terrific guitars ! Your Ava Live model is top of their line so yeah a hard case comes with it...most others come with a nice gig bag. I really have nothing derogatory to say about Orangewood. Customer service is spot on too !
Thanks, Andy, this was a great review!
I purchased an Orangewood Rey for my grandson to learn on. I was amazed at what a great guitar I could buy for such a low buy in price. The guitar played very good, looked much better than I thought it would. and sounded great for an all laminate guitar. I liked it so much, it seemed kind of hard to give away.
I have two Orangwood guitars and I love them!!! I have a 6 string and the 12 string!! A lot a bang for the buck!! That Ava sounded beautiful!!!!!
Great review! My father in law plays in multiple bluegrass bands has been looking at these hard!
great review! nice playing
Such a beautiful guitar!
in the world of guitar gear reviews, this is becoming my favourite youtube channel
That’s great to read Josh!
Absolutely agree! Was just thinking it and read your post! Lol Andy is literally the best. Cheers!
Agreed. He's quickly climbing to the top of my review channels. His content is always wholesome and entertaining to boot. Not much unneeded fluff. Straight to the point most of the time. It's rather refreshing.
Some of us old timers are happy that others are discovering this. 😊
I agree!
G’day mate. Thank you for a great channel and honest reviews. Have a good one 👍🇦🇺
Thank you for your review. I’m a new subscriber and do enjoy your videos. I am a Martin owner, prefer the OM body style over others and over 60 years have owned over 150 acoustic guitars. ( Never more than 20 at a time).
I’ve been impressed with several all solid wood guitars not named Martin. Guitars like Alvarez, Eastman, and now perhaps Orangewood , where you can get a quality instrument in the $1000 US price range.. it is great to have choices.
Thank you
I love grand concert guitars. Dreadnoughts just sound boomy to me. This guitar sounds fantastic! I love the review!
I'm enjoying your reviews. Very lively and sincere. Cheers from the US Left Coast!
Thank you Kevin! Cheers from Austria!
Nice to see an acoustic review
Glad you liked it!
Seems really compact as shape size. I like it!
"My cat's gonna really like that." :)
I'm really enjoying your reviews. Great job!
I came for the guitar geekery and stayed for the honest smile.
You really mean it, man. Shines though.
Keep up the good works.
Preferred the internal Piezo sound than the internal mic; still the combination sounded better than external microphones. But overall, Ava sung well, especially correct intonations with the capo. Lots of high-end guitars have pickup, but without the built-in tuner, it's kind of suck! Thank you for the review of Ava.
Had the ' stick ' with my Godin Fairmount. I use it to check battery level on the lr bags anthem pick system. Cocktail stick does the same.
Good review especially the pick up v mic comparison.... disappointed that no mention of Orangewood still only being available in North America with no option for international shipping. When you mention it was shipped to Austria clicked through to Orangewood thinking this had changed !
Sounds good !
Andy, if I may call you by your first name. I am new to “The Guitar Geek” RUclips channel and would like to compliment you on your Expertise pertaining to all things musical. I also admire your honesty when it comes to us, your audience. Believe me when I say, it is very refreshing. I just love Ava. What a beauty. I will research their website for more information regarding her. By the way, my name is Lee from Las Vegas, Nevada, USA. I classify myself as a seasoned beginner, and a hobbyist collector. Looking forward to many more of your videos. Keep up the great work. Thank you.
if you think this guitar sounds great you are out of your mind in my opinion
this thing sounds awful in my opinion.
The Stick was a good sign, I was waiting for you to use it.
Hey I’m a first time watcher and have just got out of the 90% of viewers who have subscribed,all looks great at the moment keep it up
Cheers from NZL
Welcome aboard!
I've had three Orangewoods so far and they are all bang on! Better than my Alvarez and my Yamahas.
Looks to be a nice guitar. The external mics sounded infinitely better than the internal piezo/mic which I did not like at all.
Yes! Same here, I found it killed the guitar, especially the internal mic.
I keep hearing that the internal piezos tend to be very quacky and annoying in many good quality acoustic electrics, even Takamine, although I have one of those
from about 15 years ago, and it sounds quite good via the internal preamp, and NOT quacky at all. (a basic 6 string)
To my old ears the internal pickup sounded kind of muddy compared to the mics. Having said that, I love the sound of this fine guitar! This channel is going to force me to invest in an Orangewood, Santa, I've been a good boy, mostly.
Internal mics are ONLY for performing live. And even then, ONLY in situations where it's too difficult to properly mic the guitar. If you don't find yourself doing that regularly, don't waste your money on an internal mic.
That's because he did not go through the setup process using that long tweaker stick to adjust the gain on the mic properly. It would sound much better after being adjusted properly.
"I love it when I enjoy an instrument and I feel really at home with this..." says just how I feel about my Orangewood Morgan Live. I almost returned it because 5 frets were high (so much for their advertised setup) but I got a sale price and loved how it sounded--never had a guitar with a solid mahogany top and expected it to be "warm" or even dull. But, it sounds really balanced and full, so I decided to fix the frets myself. Now, I want to play it all the time. I compared it to a used Martin selling for $2500 and also to a very expensive, beautiful Taylor with mahogany top and the Orangewood sounds better than either of them. Even if I had preferred the Martin or Taylor sound, the difference would not justify spending 10-20 times the $250 I paid.
Note that Orangewood would have fixed my guitar free or given me a full refund. But to fix it, they require you to return it in the box they sent it in and I didn't trust the guitar would survive shipping twice more--it came with a big hole in the box. I did not want to return it because I love the sound and didn't want to give it up. (And now I know how to fix frets.)
You should try the Orangewood Juniper Live. It has a rubber bridge and has a retro look. I have one, along with 4 other Orangewoods. Love them.
Great sound out of the box. Give that 6 months of playing and it is going to be a seriously good bit of kit for 1000 bucks.
This guitar reminds me to my Yamaha LJ16 ARE. ARE is the torrifiing systhem from Yamaha. The bodyshape is a little different. The LJ 16 has a jumbo shape in 000 sice. Back an sides from The LJ are Rosewood.
But the sound of this two is nearly the same. Unplugged. The Anthem is unbeatable. I use it i a Dreadnought what I never use. May be I should change it.
Thak you for this refiew. I like the way you do it.
Awesome guitar makes me want to get one 😊
before you ever decide to buy one see if you can get this used in a pawn shop.. other wise you will be disappointed in my opinion
I have owned Martin, Guild, Taylor and this sounds legit.
I agree it looks and sounds like something costing at least two to three times as much. And it's not even broken in.
ive got taylor 314ce 2010 ,amazing guitar
Serious bang for the buck. great video Andy
Great sounding guitar for the price!
"I'm Torrified" ha ha, great video and lovely sounding guitar
14:18 very cool my guitars are all shoved up with lil bits of foam to prevent the lil rings and tings
That's a great sounding guitar.
I put an LR BAGGS, anthem pick up on my Martin 00016gt, with the adjusting stick. If failed after a couple of years. I now use a soundhole pickup, from the same company. I find this much better live.
Andy! Top demo; the mics sounded great. Is there an issue with the piezo & internal mic system, it sounded like the tone was wound back. Even though I use mic’s myself, I do have a similar system in my acoustic and it sounds more present.
Never seen one until your review
So - that guitar sounds excellent! I don't recognize the song you were playing but it was also very nice.
John Mayer Something Like Olivia (Acoustic Performance) ruclips.net/video/izkqPdVAdL4/видео.htmlsi=cYQaodOm_L5QOy0a
Nice one. Reminds me of the also very nice Yamahas.
I'm thinking abt getting a cleo/Sierra, would love to see you review it
Quite a looker, and having the pick guard not attached is a nice touch.
Which pick did you use?
Hi Andy! Thanks a lot for the good review, so enthusiastic and accuracy . I'd like to buy the AVA Vintage Sunburst Live, but I live in Italy. I've understand that the company only sell their product in USA , so how did you manage to buy this guitar considering that you live in UK?
Bloody Fantastic!!! just fell down another you tube rabbit hole..... Very watchable chap... if that's a word?
Once again another lovely guitar by them, just need to ship internationally now….
I have been looking at the minis
The smell of guitar wood….omg YES! YES! ❤❤❤
The lr bags is top!
Not available to ship to the EU or UK. Thanks Orangewood. Fortunately I have two Taylors, one new and one used. Both with flawless build quality - better than any other guitar I own, electric or acoustic, play great, sound great and I got them each for under £1000.00
👍 well done
Great review,Andy. Where do you attach the fuzz?
This guitar suffers the same problem as most other piezo pickups do. They are a bit subdued. The mic tone sounds fantastix. The pickup is still solid and just as good as many ive played in much higher pricepoints. So cheers 🍻
Amazon sells Orangewood guitars. I bought my second one through them!
I hate piezos and this video proves to me that I surely prefer the mic source, above all.
By the way, good sounding guitar for sure and for the price but, IMHO it lacks some projection and bass.
Very good video Andy! Well made as usual.
Are they shipping to Europe yet?
It's kind of a wind-up seeing good reviews for something that isn't available here...
No. Just checked their site - North America only at the shipping options.
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Sounds kinda good. I might grab one, I'd get one without the pickup myself, no need when mic'ing sounds so good, better off grabbing those mics instead..
Cool video
Cole clark make awesome acoutic guitars. Made in australia using australian wood. Sound great look beautiful
I’ve never tried these. I’ll take a look
Really interesting video. As you know so much about guitars, which capo do you use and do you recommend it. I am still using a Shubb that I bought probably 20-30 years ago and I've been looking at the ones that work like yours in the video. The problem is there are so many choices I don't know what to get!
Hi, I am a big fan of the Kyser and daddario ones
Oof, that internal pickup is bow-wow city. Lewitt all the way. It sounds like a guitar made from solid woods, which is nice. I recently learned of acoustic guitars made from compressed sawdust and finished with wood veneers. Good guitar, proud to be a 10%er. 😺
Well the pickup signal would obviously be eq’Ed. At any gig or session
The Rey was a great guitar for well under 200$. Took a 6-700 guitar to be an upgrade to it for me
All my old high end Martins needed a neck reset after half a century of wear & tear. Expensive to fix but the luthier had no problem dealing with dovetail neck joints & the glue used. Some neck joints can be problematic.
While the Orangewood Ava TS is a nice sounding guitar for the price, what surprises might a future luthier find in the neck joint in half a century?
As a favour to future luthiers & guitar techs, please take one apart using a chainsaw or get the information from the factory while they are still around to ask . The chainsaw would make a far more interesting video.
You could also use the chainsaw on the guitar from the company that threatened to sue you if you failed to give them a favourable review.
Radiohead Street Spirit (fade out) was utterly spot-on 😍👏👏👏👍❗️
This video reminded me that acoustics are a whole different ballgame when it comes to the general temperament and upkeep of an instrument than electric guitars. If it sounds this good out of the box, I imagine it'll only get better and better with time!
The torrified process speeds up and locks in the aging process. The sound won't change much over time. How it sounds now will be mostly how it sounds for ever.
@@mptachenko lol, that’s not true at all.
@@procarpenter1788 I don't claim to be an expert but I did some research I while back and this was the conclusion I came to from the data available. What supports your conclusion?
@@mptachenkoYour mama
Well said, thanks👍
WOW! I want this. I contacted @Orangewood and they said they only deliver to the US and Canada. C20? I live in Europe
I’m glad to see you show things available only here (N America) - hope it’s the other way too. I like to see what we’re missing too. Maybe I could send you one of my models if it’s interesting enough.
This is an international channel although most of my viewers are from the US. Feel free to email me details. The email is on my about me page
It sounds better from the mics than from the internal pickup/ mic. The piezo oddly sounds better than the internal mic.
Very nice guitar for the money
Please get someone to buy couple of Orangewood guitars on your behalf and then review that. There are those of us who have a different (bad) experience with Orangewood guitars. I suspect that your guitars are carefully selected to maximise a positive review.
I'm torrified. I don't know if it fits your criteria but I've been eyeing a Yamaha CSF3M for a while now.
if Orangewood offered international shipping I would've easily gotten one!
Have you tried the Eastman line of Guitars ? Most models are solid wood construction, hand voiced, hand carved braces.
Also have you played a Zager ?
What amplifier were you playing it through either with the Anthem or via the microphones?
More high value, low cost brands.. I love it!
Looks lovely, unfortunately Orangewood don't seem to ship to the UK.
or anywhere outside North America.
Not sure how Andy got one in Austria unless it was PR special treatment ... @AndyGuitarGeek might have been worth mentioning the delivery restrictions.@@edwardjons8684
like dude why would you want an Orangewood? i dunno about the UK but check your local pawn shops maybe there are a few floating around..
in my opinion this Orangewood guitar sounds horrible..
Hi Andy, I'm torrified and that since some years. I'm still looking Forward for the international Sales from orangewood, but they seem not to be interessted. Do you have an Idea how to buy one from Germany ? .. thanks an keep going 😉 best wishes Heiko
Great video of a very good sounding instrument. The Chinese made acoustics are insane value. I bought a higher end Eastman last year, all solid wood, very good Fishman system.
It played pretty well but I decided to get it Plekkedk, which really brings it in line with US Taylors and Martins. I consider it worth budgeting for a plek if you can.
The excellent sound from the Lewitt is far less fuzzy and far cleaner than the internal mic. The internal mic is warm. Just not clear. Surprised as LLBags generally makes some of the better internal pickups.
The guitar itself sounds very, very good.
I've got an Orangewood. It's a decent guitar. My Taylor's are obviously significantly better but if you're looking for a decent budget guitar then I would recommend one.
I’d love to own an @orangewood however when I last checked they still don’t ship to the UK!!! I maybe wrong though, please tell me if they can ship to the UK as I’d definitely purchase one. In fact the “Ava” looks and sounds amazeballs ❤❤❤
They don’t ship to the UK… yet!
Might this sound a day better with bone bridge pins?
I'd recommend anything by Godin/Seagull etc
OK I'm in love.
That's funny.... I'm watching this Orangewood review... and up pops a Taylor commercial. LOL
They know their demographic!
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Wonderful sound..🤔
I bought one of these, the fret wire is very thin or short. I had to replace the bridge pins, what I received was brittle junk bridge pins that broke very easily. It was a real pain in the backside getting replacement pins that fit. wasn't comfortable using a reamer tool, so I chose to hand sand the bridge pins until they fit correctly, not the easiest method for sure. My guitar smelled like glue not wood for months. Look inside they use excessive glue, at least on mine they did. One thing to consider too is, Orangewood does not sell replacement parts if you need them. Taylor and Martin do.
Why didn’t you just return it?
@@TheGuitarGeek Good question. Maybe I was caught up in the hype, or maybe I'm just not smart enough, I tend to try to fix the minor issues and not return guitars unless they have major issues. I did return one Orangewood guitar, the trust rod was installed upside down, could not be adjusted at all, don't know how that got past their inspection. Just about all guitars have little issues of some kind, or just need a good setup. With the exception of the Taylor, that I purchased over 10 years ago, it only needed a quick setup adjustment to my liking. The Ava guitar does sound pretty good. Can't play it hard, for finger picking, gentle touch, it does sound good. I don't pick it up all that often. It does come with a very nice case. The tuning machines are very nice too. The fret wire they use is a little annoying, I thought it would grow on me, maybe I just don't play it often enough.
Sounds great but I like to try guitars before I buy them especially at this price point. It’s a shame they have nowhere to buy in person but then I know the price would then probably go up.
My favorite guitar reviewer. Love seeing a review of this overachieving brand.
Austria?? I'm watching from ATLANTA!!