@@reggielacey2235 In IDW, Sonic actively held back and toyed with Surge as he didn't want to fight her. Scourge is comparable to Sonic in terms of speed and power. Scourge would actively merc Surge in base. Super Scourge was unneeded and moreso just so Scourge could strike fear into Surge
Detalhe Scourge caiu no final por causa que ele fica exausto após o uso da super forma que é o oposto do Sonic já que o Sonic ganha um reforço enquanto Scourge é esgotado
@@c4_kel348 From what I know using the Anarchy Beryl allows you to stay in your Super Form for a longer period of time. However once you revert back your energy is drained to the point where you cannot stand. Unlike the Chaos Emeralds who return you to peak condition after reverting from Super
5 Seconds in and I already see massive improvement. We all saw the outcome from the very beginning XD but very good animation!! I see that you are experimenting more with camera movement and perspectives, which I like alot. Of course I recognize the small refrences to Super Sonic 2 and etc, the bone breaking at 3:36 was straight fire, keep it up!
@@reggielacey2235not even close lol Scourge is from Archie, some of those mfers be doing universe breaking shit even in base (this is an exaggeration), that counts Scourge too. If Surge can't handle base game/IDW Sonic actually trying, without a power up (like the Dynamo Cage) she ain't standing a chance even in base.
Everything about this is perfect, the sprites, the animation, the choreography, the voices and the accuracy of how the fight would go, well done, new sub
@@dillonpeterson66 that's because surge has more screen time in IDW per capita like we didn't get to see scourge psychology till the Archie comics got cancelled
THIS WAS AMAZING! And yes this is probably how it would turn out. Sorry Surge I love you, but Scourge conquered his whole dimension in his base form, you didn't stand a chance my girl. Also DAMN SCOURGE DON'T YOU THINK YOU WENT A LITTLE OVERBOARD BY GOING SUPER?! By the way what voices did you use for Scourge and Surge? Because they were so good and fit perfectly!
For Scourge, I used Turles' voice from Dragon Ball Z games, some of his quotes was Jin Kazama's eng voice from Street Fighter X Tekken, and the transformation laugh was Devil Jin's from the Tekken series. And for Surge, I used Matoi Ryuko's voice from Kill la Kill IF
@@daner293he will blitz circles around Sonic and Shadow for sure, but both will knock his ass around if they get serious, after all they faced a hedgehog around that level before.
Great work. It’s always a treat to watch your animations, BurnTH. I had a feeling this is how it would go. Not that Surge is necessarily weak. It’s just that she already struggled against Sonic. Of course she would not fair much better against Scourge. Especially since Scourge doesn’t typically hold back, unlike Sonic. Although that may be a detriment to him as well as we see at the end of the fight, Scourge is completely drained as a result of using the Anarchy Beryl.
This fight was awsome but also literal definition of "child vs the guy that beat her but he doesn't hold back anymore" also nice detail in remembering that scrouge loses all his power when he's de supers was kind of funny lmao is sirge had the dianamo cage she probably could of beat him
pretty cool, but like I feel like Surge should've had the cage from the recent comics or something if Scourge was gonna be able to go into his Super Form.
very cool done, this also opens up another battle between Sonic and Kit, because after the battle, fennec Kit will think that Sonic did it, that he killed Surge, and he will decide to train to use his water abilities to the maximum to take revenge on Sonic for Surge's death
Incredible job! In my opinion, I think that you put the two of them at the right power scale. The both of them have the same personality, and fighting style. I appreciate all the hard work and time that you put into this video. Hope you enjoy the rest of your day.
I guess this is as good of a place as any animation channel to leave some of my Sonic fanon concepts (warning - some of them are lengthy): *Merge Bracelets:* A new, more balanced way to bring Shadic into the Sonic Extended Universe. Previously, Sonic and Shadow could just fuse whenever by using Chaos Control at the same time, no strings attached. With this concept, they'd fuse with a new wearable that, design-wise, is a pair of bracelets (one each for Sonic and Shadow) with a half of a Yin Yang symbol as an attached ornament. The big part of the half Yin Yang is the wearer's color (blue for Sonic and black for Shadow), while the inner circle is usually a faded gray but takes on the color of the fusion partner when about to be used. Speaking of which, the fusion requires a new energy type called Mergeforce in order to be used and upheld. More often than not, when they need to use fusion, there just happens to be plenty of local Mergeforce around, but the Merge Bracelets can also store some amount of Mergeforce within themselves (a useful plot device for building up tension with a limited-time fusion). *Mirage Emeralds:* The introduction of this concept would take place with a short monologue: "Legend tells of a particularly elusive set of Emeralds... They are said to appear when two sets of Emeralds together face a soulless evil... The Mirage Emeralds." Not only is this quite specific, but their requirement to their user is also extremely strict as they require an extraordinary pureness of heart - if you have felt hatred even once in your life, they won't respond to you. Even in a Sonic universe that's as Extended as possible, very few characters fulfill that requirement. I actually came up with 3 of them and their powers: - The first to get a Mirage form is actually Cream. Some design concepts for her are that her existing colors are mixed with some pink spots, and that her ears actually knot themselves into a ribbon (contrary to what you may think, that doesn't hurt at all). In terms of powers, she's the most fleshed-out so far, mostly thriving off of her friendships. She has a passive called Barrier of Unity that prevents her from being hurt by her friends' attacks. She can get hit even by the most powerful energy blast (as long as it comes from a friend) and walk out without a scratch and without having felt as much as a tingling sensation. She can still be pushed around by them though, meaning that she can, for example, slide on her friends' energy beams for extra speed. On top of that, she can let her friends lend her their energy and powers for attacks of her own. For example, she'd end a fight against Reborn Nazo with a punch that contains the combined powers of Knuckles, Blaze, Marine, Silver and a few OCs. - 2 more characters that can use the Mirage Emeralds are Vanilla and H!Maria (i.e. Maria in her "reborn as a hedgehog" form). I haven't entirely figured them out yet, but one of them would have a Pain Drain ability where she can take a target's pain and split it between the target and herself, and the other would have strong healing powers. This would probably go along with a nerf to Knuckles' healing capabilities, most likely making them a rather slow healing whereas the Mirage Vanilla/Mirage Maria (TBD) variant would literally work like a Senzu Bean. *Chrono the Fox:* Speaking of DBZ references, here's my OC. Design-wise, he'd be mostly lime, with forest green as his secondary color. His head is mostly a repalette of Tails' head, except for a darker-green stripe between his ears and eyes (after coming up with that, I later realized I had copied the highlights of Carol from Freedom Planet, but oh well, at least it makes for a good comparison). From the neck down he's a recolor of Shadow. His basic clothes are a shirt and shorts, with the former hiding the fluffy spot on his chest until it gets battle-damaged. Over that, however, he wears a rather remarkable piece - a double-ring armor-esque thingy that basically looks like 2 crossing diagonal belts but made of a solid gold-esque metal. As of personality, he's quite protective of his friends, but also eager to ensure that they can hold their own if needed (giving Tails, Cosmo, Marine and even Cream some combat training), cares about their trust to the extent that he's willing to prioritize their wishes over their well-being (so if, let's say, Eggman threatened to torture Blaze until Chrono gives him a specific information, Chrono would ask Blaze, and if she'd rather be tortured to death than let Eggman have that information, he'd respect her decision), and can enjoy a good fight as long as there's no long-term consequences for his friends. His powers have gotten some nerfs since I came up with him, but are still rather high-scaled. He can do some shenanigans by creating portals, but his set of Mirror Crossverse abilities is where he really shines. The main power-limiting mechanic are his Mirror Energy reserves, which are similar to Ki but not interchangeable. Each Mirror Crossverse power drains his Mirror Energy, usually both at initiation and over the usage time. However, he can overexert his Mirror Energy reserves, at the cost of burning his body from within (similar to an overly high Kaio-Ken). As the name indicates, these powers work by mirroring the powers of beings around him and using their counterparts from other universes. He can copy multiple sources of the same Mirror Crossverse powers at once. The higher the combined power of his sources, the stronger the result (although it doesn't take stamina of any form from the sources), but also the higher the Mirror Energy cost. On top of that, the Mirror Energy cost of using multiple different Mirror Crossverse abilities at once stacks exponentially. The individual Mirror Crossverse powers have their own name each (functioning as Named Active Abilities) and include: - Soulful Clones: Can be obtained from any cloning ability. Shadow Clone Jutsu from Naruto, 'nuff said. - Fullmetal Body: Can be obtained from cyborgs, or from fighting-capable robots through imperfect copying (less Mirror Energy efficient). Lets him obtain the cyborg body of Raiden from Metal Gear, with an Electrolyte reserve depending on the power input. If strong enough, this can come with a High-Frequency Blade or even a Murasama. On the other hand, copying relatively weak cyborgs/robots might leave him without a Blade Mode. Also, no Ripper Mode unless he uses this while insane. - Skybound Armor: Can be obtained from flight-capable mechsuits. Gives him Iron Man's power suit. - Wings of Steel: Can be obtained from winged mechsuits, or from winged cyborgs and robots through imperfect copying. Gives him the power suit of Scrap Vulture aka Vulture Man from Spider Man Homecoming. - Saiyan's Aura: Yup, here come the DBZ references. Can be obtained from those who can reach new forms by using a set of Emeralds. Lets him gain the powers of Saiyans from the Dragon Ball universe. His Ki reserves and the available forms and techniques, obviously, depend on the sources. Similar to how the SSG ritual requires 5 righteous Saiyans to channel their energy into another righteous Saiyan, Chrono gains access to God Ki if the sources include at least 5 righteous Emerald users. Combined techniques, such as the Final Kamehameha, only come into play if he can mirror fused sources such as Shadic. Also, he cannot access Ultra Instinct or Ultra Ego, or as he says: "That's a state I cannot obtain through mere copying. I would have to learn it for myself." - Spheres of Fate: Another DBZ-referencing Mirror Crossverse technique. Obtained from a full set of sufficiently strong Emeralds (the Sol Emeralds are not enough here, and neither are the Chaos Emeralds unless the Master Emerald is also nearby). Creates a set of Dragon Balls which immediately summon Shenron. Due to the Dragon Balls being created anew each time, each wish will function as if it was the first wish to Shenron ever, removing limitations on repetition (while leaving other limitations intact, for the respective set of Dragon Balls). However, this is by far the strongest Mirror Crossverse technique, and thus guaranteed to completely drain Chrono of Mirror Energy and then deal some burn. And if he goes as far as to summon the Super Dragon Balls by using the Super Emeralds, he _will_ pass out from the damage. An exception to his power limits is his Fleetway form which he, like most characters with one, obtains by overfilling his energy reserves by a multiple (which is shown with Archie Sonic through having too many rings, but can also happen to someone who, for example, eats too many Senzu Beans at once). This form, obviously, comes with the usual sanity loss. As of powers, Fleetway Chrono has unlimited Mirror Energy and can mirror his sources across any distance. Additionally, Mirror Crossverse - Saiyan's Aura now gives him access to LSSJ and Beast Mode, and, as mentioned above, Mirror Crossverse - Fullmetal Body lets him have Ripper Mode. He's obviously a menace like no other - imagine an Scrap Vulture Suit Kaio-Ken x100 LSSJ Blue Evolved Ripper Mode Beast Mode dude with a Murasama, Shadow Clones and without control over himself. I don't think anything short of Mirage Cream (who can't be harmed by him due to the fact that him not being able to control himself doesn't change that they're friends in general) could stop him.
This just reminds me of Hollander vs omni man with how one-sided the fight was. While I don't believe the outcome would have been different, I thought surge would have the dynamo cage to even out the odds
Don't think it'll make a difference. It wouldn't be one-sided in the beginning, yes. Before the Super form. Then, the result would be the same. I just decided to make Scourge a total menace. And I think, I did it pretty well.
@BurnTH I'm here for it tbh I kinda wanted surge to eat dirt for the bullshit she was on in the idw comics. I don't care about her trauma from starlight and all he has done to her, she is literally free from starlight to not be his slave but still follows what he wanted from her and the fact sonic also tried multiple times to make peace and give her an out .
Alternate titles: Virgin Surge vs Chad Scourge; Scourge absolutely bodying Surge for 4 minutes and 26 seconds; “same as ever, all bark and no bite” - Sonic, 2008.
How cool everything is done! Author, you did everything very well in Pixel Art and I like this graphics, it’s incredibly nice! Can I offer you a battle in which Tangle and Whisper fight against Mimic?
The problem is, the sprites are not mine, I'm not the one who made them. I just use them to animate. And, sprites for Tangle, Whisper and Mimic simply don't exist, so I can not make it.
Considering Sonic absolutely SOLO’d Surge, and Scourge was stronger than Archie Sonic’s base form at one point, due to funny master emerald- I thought Surge would’ve been dead the first 3 seconds of the fight
Well, Surge lost the fight, but dialogue suggests she survives (albeit barely). In contrast, Scourge curb-stomped her but pushed his super form so far that the recoil may have actually sent him into cardiac arrest and killed him. Karma is a bitch.😂
@@rodrickgoldberg2324he's not dead. The heartbeat was obviously for the dramatic effect (it would look stupid if he just fell out of nowhere). So, yes, he just passed out because of the Anarchy Beryls.
@@BurnTH Fair enough. You stayed true to the Archie Lore with Scourge being exhausted after his super transformation exhausting all of his stamina. As opposed to Sonic's Super Transformation recovering his stamina afterwards.
Perfect... I have nothing left to say, nothing can beat perfection... Also today i'll be uploading my new sprite animation, after long time, i have so much other work so animations will be not uploaded that fast.
It was an overkill, pretty sure Scourge was holding back. Considering Archie comics' characters are way faster and stronger than IDW canon, Surge only at best electricity level, which is about mach 1280. Yet Scourge is easily way beyond lightspeed, at his BASE form. Him going Super and all in, would wipe Surge out with nothing left. Despite Surge having multiple DNA from the heroes, she is still way weaker than even Scourge's one percent power
bro i've never seen sucha a one sided battle in a sprite animation. it was accurate, but i wish you gave surge a lil more time to fight. its still 10/10, you're really good at what you do
Honestly she was already dead as soon as he got into that transformation like honestly even the comics have stated that when he uses those chaos emeralds it’s literally a wrap. She didn’t understand how fucked she really was but she learned that day while going to hedgehog heaven. Because like everyone said this was not a normal battle this was an execution with a little bit of punishment time.
I figured the archie character was going to win, yet somehow I still find myself disappointed with the match up rather than the outcome even with the amazing animation.
Man, what I saw was amazing REALLY AMAZING keep it up BurnTH. And btw I don't how you're going to animate an Pivot Animation with Turbo Mecha Sonic From SMBZ (Super Mario Bros Z).TreatingTreating
@@tjpikahero814 he was a evil sonic from a alternte universe whose evil and his super form is pretty much able to beat super sonic super shadow super siver a hypithoerhical super tails and super amy and super cream at the same time the only reason he lost was sonic triked him into going back to base form which drained him of his energy
Funniest thing is Surge's mechanical augmentations make her super tanky including having a healing factor. Certainly didn't win the fight, but she has great odds of walking away while Scourge, even if he doesn't die from the heart attack after using Super Scourge, will have no power left and be drowned by Kit.
Я хоть знаю про Сердж, но блин почему другие комиксы от IDW до сих пор не перевели, а Скордж ну я не читал Арчи так что не знаю о нем практически ничего
Kit: "SONIC!!!!!!" Sonic: "Oh he-.....surge?" Kit: "Please you got to help, this green guy came out of nowhere and then turned purple!" Sonic: "....right.....get surge to amy fast, she will get her the help surge needs right now.......where is he tho" Kit: "Last i seen him was in deep forest zone, you can't miss where the fight happened" Sonic: "....thanks kit.....go along now, sunset city, that's where amy is right now" Kit: "Thank you sonic" *With surge in tow, makes a b line for the city* Sonic: "......scourge.......you went too far" (I don't know if this happened yet) Sonic (frontiers) VS Scourge.
You do remember she heals too fast making her pretty much unkillable she's like the zombots she survived getting smashed by a giant spicked ball while getting not hurt at all she survived the crumbling of eggmans city after Sonics fight
She heals just as fast as she is just like sonic but this us still accurate i garentee one of scourges punches is causing alot more damage than a giant spiked ball
@@silverknight8619 -Says that a Super Form should have more trouble -Fully ignores the way that Super Sonic _humbled_ Zavok in less than a page, while in a form that gave Base Sonic much trouble in the past -Also ignores that the first Sonic vs Surge was 100% one-sided, with Sonic even trying to convince Surge to give up mid fight (Thing which even takes place AFTER this animation) Yeah, healing factor or not, the winner was pretty much decided before the fight even took place. I'd dare say that Surge put too much of a fight and should have gotten the Power-Up against base Scourge
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This wasn't a fight, it was an slaughter. You did a fantastic job.
Base to base they are equal
@@reggielacey2235no, they are not.
@@reggielacey2235 In IDW, Sonic actively held back and toyed with Surge as he didn't want to fight her. Scourge is comparable to Sonic in terms of speed and power. Scourge would actively merc Surge in base. Super Scourge was unneeded and moreso just so Scourge could strike fear into Surge
@@reggielacey2235Scourge is MAULING Surge
Yeah that sounds like a scourge thing to do
I love how there's a point where it went from "Scourge vs Surge" to "Scourge beating the shit out of Surge for a minute"
I know right it's so AESAME
And I just love the way how scourge transforms In to his super form
To be honest, this wasn't really a fight, IT WAS A EXECUTION
More like .EXEcution
It was a predator with its chew toy.
That’s what she gets for challenging the king of Moebius
Detalhe Scourge caiu no final por causa que ele fica exausto após o uso da super forma que é o oposto do Sonic já que o Sonic ganha um reforço enquanto Scourge é esgotado
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What's funny is that when Sonic got a smidgen bit more serious he completely dusted her.
Sonic isn’t even in the animation
@@cheddarcheeseballz Well yes but actually no
@@cheddarcheeseballzit's literally evil sonic from Archie comics he came from another mobius dimension
@@cheddarcheeseballz He meant the idw comics, they fought in there
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Sonic: And this, Jet, is why I prefer having you as my green rival.
Amazing animation bro, I never thought that Devil Jin's voice matched Scourge's super form so well
I really like how Scourge used the Anarchy Beryl instead of the Chaos Emeralds
the what?
@@c4_kel348 They are basically the Anti-Chaos Emeralds from Scourges world.
@@xxmurderer7xx287 oh
@@xxmurderer7xx287 so using them comes at a cost
@@c4_kel348 From what I know using the Anarchy Beryl allows you to stay in your Super Form for a longer period of time. However once you revert back your energy is drained to the point where you cannot stand.
Unlike the Chaos Emeralds who return you to peak condition after reverting from Super
5 Seconds in and I already see massive improvement.
We all saw the outcome from the very beginning XD but very good animation!!
I see that you are experimenting more with camera movement and perspectives, which I like alot.
Of course I recognize the small refrences to Super Sonic 2 and etc, the bone breaking at 3:36 was straight fire, keep it up!
Base to Base they are equal
@@reggielacey2235not even close lol
Scourge is from Archie, some of those mfers be doing universe breaking shit even in base (this is an exaggeration), that counts Scourge too. If Surge can't handle base game/IDW Sonic actually trying, without a power up (like the Dynamo Cage) she ain't standing a chance even in base.
Everything about this is perfect, the sprites, the animation, the choreography, the voices and the accuracy of how the fight would go, well done, new sub
This fight reminded me of Videl vs Spopovich, Sis stood NO chance
She got her back blowned out
Didn’t watch the video yet, I didn’t know this was gonna be *that* bad of a whoopin’ 😭
Fuck videl vs spopovich, this some buuhan vs vegito type ass beating
Man it's always beautiful see this level of animation in pivot
Surge: Are you a monster?
Scourge: No. The DEVIL!
I think this phrase would be perfect.
I do miss Scourge. He was a whole ass menace and truly what Sonic could become if he ever stopped being so nice.
yeah, i love scourge so much, I'm so sad that he got erased
Scourge is stronger, but Surge is better written
@@dillonpeterson66 I genuinely like his writing more in the multiverse prison arc
@zy1058 he's ok but overall still not much there while Surge has alot when we peal back the layers
@@dillonpeterson66 that's because surge has more screen time in IDW per capita like we didn't get to see scourge psychology till the Archie comics got cancelled
This is the most coolest sprite battle i've ever watched in my entire life, good job man ^^
THIS WAS AMAZING! And yes this is probably how it would turn out.
Sorry Surge I love you, but Scourge conquered his whole dimension in his base form, you didn't stand a chance my girl. Also DAMN SCOURGE DON'T YOU THINK YOU WENT A LITTLE OVERBOARD BY GOING SUPER?!
By the way what voices did you use for Scourge and Surge? Because they were so good and fit perfectly!
For Scourge, I used Turles' voice from Dragon Ball Z games, some of his quotes was Jin Kazama's eng voice from Street Fighter X Tekken, and the transformation laugh was Devil Jin's from the Tekken series.
And for Surge, I used Matoi Ryuko's voice from Kill la Kill IF
@@BurnTH That explains why I felt that I heard some of these voice clips before.
Nah scourge is just a stronger sonic version. I can imagine how much power does hyper scourge have?
@@daner293he will blitz circles around Sonic and Shadow for sure, but both will knock his ass around if they get serious, after all they faced a hedgehog around that level before.
I mean scourge still suffers a fucking heart attack at the end and dies so...
This was one of the best fights you have animated it was treat to watch this it was one of the best thanks bro.
Little did I think before today that Turles's voice would fit so well for Scourge..
Great work. It’s always a treat to watch your animations, BurnTH.
I had a feeling this is how it would go. Not that Surge is necessarily weak. It’s just that she already struggled against Sonic. Of course she would not fair much better against Scourge. Especially since Scourge doesn’t typically hold back, unlike Sonic. Although that may be a detriment to him as well as we see at the end of the fight, Scourge is completely drained as a result of using the Anarchy Beryl.
3:04 He really made us think that Surge was gonna even the playing field only for Scourge to be like: “Nope!”
Ok this fight was awesome as hell great work dude
Dang Scourge just gave her the hands for equal rights equal fights. :3
And the Super form is just overkill.
Honestly Scourge would hurt anyone women, dogs, children you name it
This fight was awsome but also literal definition of "child vs the guy that beat her but he doesn't hold back anymore" also nice detail in remembering that scrouge loses all his power when he's de supers was kind of funny lmao is sirge had the dianamo cage she probably could of beat him
Your animations are so incredible and this is just an awesome example of it!! :D 🔥
pretty cool, but like I feel like Surge should've had the cage from the recent comics or something if Scourge was gonna be able to go into his Super Form.
Wouldnt have helped, super is a way bigger boost, though she might be able to use it to absorb some emerald energy.
@@BobThePenguin. Yeah yeah I know but like- at least give the poor girl something to help her against that menace!
@@randomnerdcc5404, you saw what just happened bro, only Jesus can help her against that brute
@@elitecharon Fair lol
Don't think she can absorb something that is infinite
very cool done, this also opens up another battle between Sonic and Kit, because after the battle, fennec Kit will think that Sonic did it, that he killed Surge, and he will decide to train to use his water abilities to the maximum to take revenge on Sonic for Surge's death
The reason why Scourge didn't kill her faster was because he *loves to play with his food.*
Maybe his father shouldve told him not too. Oops my bad I forgot, he cant-
This was a massive slaughter cause unlike sonic scourge doesn't hold back when it comes to fighting
Incredible job! In my opinion, I think that you put the two of them at the right power scale. The both of them have the same personality, and fighting style. I appreciate all the hard work and time that you put into this video. Hope you enjoy the rest of your day.
Let's be honest, Scourge was nerfed, in just a few hits Surge should be bad by now
(if something is written wrong it's because I'm using a translator sorry)
The voice lines are AWESOME!
The combos were amazing. Keep improving.
Ian Flynn needs to create Super Surge purple (officially), since Flynn himself said that Surge is the spiritual successor of Scourge
Surge having Ryuko’s voice is pretty good
Surge just keeps yapping and scourge is like "shut the fuck up"
I guess this is as good of a place as any animation channel to leave some of my Sonic fanon concepts (warning - some of them are lengthy):
*Merge Bracelets:* A new, more balanced way to bring Shadic into the Sonic Extended Universe. Previously, Sonic and Shadow could just fuse whenever by using Chaos Control at the same time, no strings attached. With this concept, they'd fuse with a new wearable that, design-wise, is a pair of bracelets (one each for Sonic and Shadow) with a half of a Yin Yang symbol as an attached ornament. The big part of the half Yin Yang is the wearer's color (blue for Sonic and black for Shadow), while the inner circle is usually a faded gray but takes on the color of the fusion partner when about to be used. Speaking of which, the fusion requires a new energy type called Mergeforce in order to be used and upheld. More often than not, when they need to use fusion, there just happens to be plenty of local Mergeforce around, but the Merge Bracelets can also store some amount of Mergeforce within themselves (a useful plot device for building up tension with a limited-time fusion).
*Mirage Emeralds:* The introduction of this concept would take place with a short monologue: "Legend tells of a particularly elusive set of Emeralds... They are said to appear when two sets of Emeralds together face a soulless evil... The Mirage Emeralds." Not only is this quite specific, but their requirement to their user is also extremely strict as they require an extraordinary pureness of heart - if you have felt hatred even once in your life, they won't respond to you. Even in a Sonic universe that's as Extended as possible, very few characters fulfill that requirement. I actually came up with 3 of them and their powers:
- The first to get a Mirage form is actually Cream. Some design concepts for her are that her existing colors are mixed with some pink spots, and that her ears actually knot themselves into a ribbon (contrary to what you may think, that doesn't hurt at all). In terms of powers, she's the most fleshed-out so far, mostly thriving off of her friendships. She has a passive called Barrier of Unity that prevents her from being hurt by her friends' attacks. She can get hit even by the most powerful energy blast (as long as it comes from a friend) and walk out without a scratch and without having felt as much as a tingling sensation. She can still be pushed around by them though, meaning that she can, for example, slide on her friends' energy beams for extra speed. On top of that, she can let her friends lend her their energy and powers for attacks of her own. For example, she'd end a fight against Reborn Nazo with a punch that contains the combined powers of Knuckles, Blaze, Marine, Silver and a few OCs.
- 2 more characters that can use the Mirage Emeralds are Vanilla and H!Maria (i.e. Maria in her "reborn as a hedgehog" form). I haven't entirely figured them out yet, but one of them would have a Pain Drain ability where she can take a target's pain and split it between the target and herself, and the other would have strong healing powers. This would probably go along with a nerf to Knuckles' healing capabilities, most likely making them a rather slow healing whereas the Mirage Vanilla/Mirage Maria (TBD) variant would literally work like a Senzu Bean.
*Chrono the Fox:* Speaking of DBZ references, here's my OC. Design-wise, he'd be mostly lime, with forest green as his secondary color. His head is mostly a repalette of Tails' head, except for a darker-green stripe between his ears and eyes (after coming up with that, I later realized I had copied the highlights of Carol from Freedom Planet, but oh well, at least it makes for a good comparison). From the neck down he's a recolor of Shadow. His basic clothes are a shirt and shorts, with the former hiding the fluffy spot on his chest until it gets battle-damaged. Over that, however, he wears a rather remarkable piece - a double-ring armor-esque thingy that basically looks like 2 crossing diagonal belts but made of a solid gold-esque metal. As of personality, he's quite protective of his friends, but also eager to ensure that they can hold their own if needed (giving Tails, Cosmo, Marine and even Cream some combat training), cares about their trust to the extent that he's willing to prioritize their wishes over their well-being (so if, let's say, Eggman threatened to torture Blaze until Chrono gives him a specific information, Chrono would ask Blaze, and if she'd rather be tortured to death than let Eggman have that information, he'd respect her decision), and can enjoy a good fight as long as there's no long-term consequences for his friends.
His powers have gotten some nerfs since I came up with him, but are still rather high-scaled. He can do some shenanigans by creating portals, but his set of Mirror Crossverse abilities is where he really shines. The main power-limiting mechanic are his Mirror Energy reserves, which are similar to Ki but not interchangeable. Each Mirror Crossverse power drains his Mirror Energy, usually both at initiation and over the usage time. However, he can overexert his Mirror Energy reserves, at the cost of burning his body from within (similar to an overly high Kaio-Ken). As the name indicates, these powers work by mirroring the powers of beings around him and using their counterparts from other universes. He can copy multiple sources of the same Mirror Crossverse powers at once. The higher the combined power of his sources, the stronger the result (although it doesn't take stamina of any form from the sources), but also the higher the Mirror Energy cost. On top of that, the Mirror Energy cost of using multiple different Mirror Crossverse abilities at once stacks exponentially. The individual Mirror Crossverse powers have their own name each (functioning as Named Active Abilities) and include:
- Soulful Clones: Can be obtained from any cloning ability. Shadow Clone Jutsu from Naruto, 'nuff said.
- Fullmetal Body: Can be obtained from cyborgs, or from fighting-capable robots through imperfect copying (less Mirror Energy efficient). Lets him obtain the cyborg body of Raiden from Metal Gear, with an Electrolyte reserve depending on the power input. If strong enough, this can come with a High-Frequency Blade or even a Murasama. On the other hand, copying relatively weak cyborgs/robots might leave him without a Blade Mode. Also, no Ripper Mode unless he uses this while insane.
- Skybound Armor: Can be obtained from flight-capable mechsuits. Gives him Iron Man's power suit.
- Wings of Steel: Can be obtained from winged mechsuits, or from winged cyborgs and robots through imperfect copying. Gives him the power suit of Scrap Vulture aka Vulture Man from Spider Man Homecoming.
- Saiyan's Aura: Yup, here come the DBZ references. Can be obtained from those who can reach new forms by using a set of Emeralds. Lets him gain the powers of Saiyans from the Dragon Ball universe. His Ki reserves and the available forms and techniques, obviously, depend on the sources. Similar to how the SSG ritual requires 5 righteous Saiyans to channel their energy into another righteous Saiyan, Chrono gains access to God Ki if the sources include at least 5 righteous Emerald users. Combined techniques, such as the Final Kamehameha, only come into play if he can mirror fused sources such as Shadic. Also, he cannot access Ultra Instinct or Ultra Ego, or as he says: "That's a state I cannot obtain through mere copying. I would have to learn it for myself."
- Spheres of Fate: Another DBZ-referencing Mirror Crossverse technique. Obtained from a full set of sufficiently strong Emeralds (the Sol Emeralds are not enough here, and neither are the Chaos Emeralds unless the Master Emerald is also nearby). Creates a set of Dragon Balls which immediately summon Shenron. Due to the Dragon Balls being created anew each time, each wish will function as if it was the first wish to Shenron ever, removing limitations on repetition (while leaving other limitations intact, for the respective set of Dragon Balls). However, this is by far the strongest Mirror Crossverse technique, and thus guaranteed to completely drain Chrono of Mirror Energy and then deal some burn. And if he goes as far as to summon the Super Dragon Balls by using the Super Emeralds, he _will_ pass out from the damage.
An exception to his power limits is his Fleetway form which he, like most characters with one, obtains by overfilling his energy reserves by a multiple (which is shown with Archie Sonic through having too many rings, but can also happen to someone who, for example, eats too many Senzu Beans at once). This form, obviously, comes with the usual sanity loss. As of powers, Fleetway Chrono has unlimited Mirror Energy and can mirror his sources across any distance. Additionally, Mirror Crossverse - Saiyan's Aura now gives him access to LSSJ and Beast Mode, and, as mentioned above, Mirror Crossverse - Fullmetal Body lets him have Ripper Mode. He's obviously a menace like no other - imagine an Scrap Vulture Suit Kaio-Ken x100 LSSJ Blue Evolved Ripper Mode Beast Mode dude with a Murasama, Shadow Clones and without control over himself. I don't think anything short of Mirage Cream (who can't be harmed by him due to the fact that him not being able to control himself doesn't change that they're friends in general) could stop him.
This just reminds me of Hollander vs omni man with how one-sided the fight was. While I don't believe the outcome would have been different, I thought surge would have the dynamo cage to even out the odds
Don't think it'll make a difference. It wouldn't be one-sided in the beginning, yes. Before the Super form. Then, the result would be the same. I just decided to make Scourge a total menace. And I think, I did it pretty well.
@BurnTH I'm here for it tbh I kinda wanted surge to eat dirt for the bullshit she was on in the idw comics. I don't care about her trauma from starlight and all he has done to her, she is literally free from starlight to not be his slave but still follows what he wanted from her and the fact sonic also tried multiple times to make peace and give her an out .
Alternate titles: Virgin Surge vs Chad Scourge; Scourge absolutely bodying Surge for 4 minutes and 26 seconds; “same as ever, all bark and no bite” - Sonic, 2008.
Scourge: "All bark, but no bite."
Is anyone gonna mention that surge having ryuko’s voice works
Sonic,Shadow and Silver:" i Will defeat you!"
Scourge: "i Will humilate you!"
Archie Sonic: *Show up*
How cool everything is done!
Author, you did everything very well in Pixel Art and I like this graphics, it’s incredibly nice!
Can I offer you a battle in which Tangle and Whisper fight against Mimic?
The problem is, the sprites are not mine, I'm not the one who made them. I just use them to animate. And, sprites for Tangle, Whisper and Mimic simply don't exist, so I can not make it.
@@BurnTH I understand you, but it's just an idea that's all.
Thank you for answering and I want to wish you all the best!
Господи, как же приятно узнавать, что у нас в СНГ тоже есть большие каналы с анимациями по Сонику)
I have a feeling Surge and Scourge would most likely team up to end Sonic
If Scourge knew how to share then sure, lol. Odds are though he's got too much of an ego to actually take help against Sonic when it's offered.
Nah, knowing them they'd end up trying to kill each other at some point
What voice lines did you use for both?
Turles (Dragon Ball Z) for Scourge, Matoi Ryuko (Kill la Kill) for Surge
@@BurnTHPivot Sprite Battle Luigi vs Scourge the Hedgehog ❤
@@Nexcrack-2002 Stop asking for Mario Characters in his battles
Yo, actually using the environment and momentum, glad i found this channel, well worth any waiting for videos.
This fight brings a whole new meaning to "mean green".
The battle of two characters inspired by Ashura? Cool!
Considering Sonic absolutely SOLO’d Surge, and Scourge was stronger than Archie Sonic’s base form at one point, due to funny master emerald-
I thought Surge would’ve been dead the first 3 seconds of the fight
Scourge is beyond the concept of brutal 💀
2:42 Damn Now He Has The Power Of Jordan Red It's Over
Well, Surge lost the fight, but dialogue suggests she survives (albeit barely).
In contrast, Scourge curb-stomped her but pushed his super form so far that the recoil may have actually sent him into cardiac arrest and killed him.
Karma is a bitch.😂
Pretty sure he just passed out.
@@ninjanate5018
I heart stopping heart beats. If he only passed out, it wouldn’t be so dramatic.
@@rodrickgoldberg2324he's not dead. The heartbeat was obviously for the dramatic effect (it would look stupid if he just fell out of nowhere). So, yes, he just passed out because of the Anarchy Beryls.
@@BurnTHnice comic accuracy!
@@BurnTH
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3:01 Isn't that super sonic 2's move from frontiers?
Surge still has the Metal Virus Skeleton. She should be able to heal on her own even from injuries like that.
Scourge stated himself in the end, that she's alive. That's exactly because of her insane regeneration factor.
@@BurnTH Fair enough. You stayed true to the Archie Lore with Scourge being exhausted after his super transformation exhausting all of his stamina. As opposed to Sonic's Super Transformation recovering his stamina afterwards.
When Scourge turns super, he's literally a drunk Sonic. Exe! Look at the eyes!
W vid btw!!!
Perfect... I have nothing left to say, nothing can beat perfection...
Also today i'll be uploading my new sprite animation, after long time, i have so much other work so animations will be not uploaded that fast.
The voice for Scourge sounds so accurate
It was an overkill, pretty sure Scourge was holding back.
Considering Archie comics' characters are way faster and stronger than IDW canon, Surge only at best electricity level, which is about mach 1280. Yet Scourge is easily way beyond lightspeed, at his BASE form. Him going Super and all in, would wipe Surge out with nothing left. Despite Surge having multiple DNA from the heroes, she is still way weaker than even Scourge's one percent power
Twitter users when they get in an argument:
And Sonic is just watching at a distance
Jesus Christ. I was expecting this outcome, but I felt like I just witnessed a massacre. So much so, that I actually kinda feel bad for Surge.
1:48 so this is where the fun begins 😏
bro i've never seen sucha a one sided battle in a sprite animation. it was accurate, but i wish you gave surge a lil more time to fight. its still 10/10, you're really good at what you do
Honestly she was already dead as soon as he got into that transformation like honestly even the comics have stated that when he uses those chaos emeralds it’s literally a wrap. She didn’t understand how fucked she really was but she learned that day while going to hedgehog heaven. Because like everyone said this was not a normal battle this was an execution with a little bit of punishment time.
my man really said: "Its not your time to live, learn this lesson stupid b-"
Can’t wait for more content!
Just admit it, We all knew who was going to win regardless.
2:36 Surge was like "He went Super?! I made a grave mistake"
Surge’s voice lines are to reminiscent of Ryoko.
Not to mention Scourge’s main weakness is overuse of the super form.
Glad I seen one of your videos on my recommended page.
That's awesome animation
Epic fight between Mister Scourge and Miss Surge too l love it's 😍👍
00:51 Why is Scourge standing in DIO's pose? He is like:
Oh, you're approaching me? Instead of running away, you're coming right to me!
I figured the archie character was going to win, yet somehow I still find myself disappointed with the match up rather than the outcome even with the amazing animation.
Man, what I saw was amazing REALLY AMAZING keep it up BurnTH. And btw I don't how you're going to animate an Pivot Animation with Turbo Mecha Sonic From SMBZ (Super Mario Bros Z).TreatingTreating
What's funny is that's accurate scorge taking a nap to recharge before becoming super scourge again
Surge's willpower is crazy
Can You Please Do Modern Sonic (After Frontiers), Movie Sonic (After Movie 2) and Classic Sonic (After Superstars) Vs Both Scourge and Surge Next?
Wow scourge is a menace…
As Usual...
@@tjpikahero814 Yep he’s always like that, he’s also one of the most violent characters
@@jaidenhawkins4968 I Mean,
He's Like a Clone Of Sonic,
Right?
@@tjpikahero814well..he _used_ to be.
@@tjpikahero814 he was a evil sonic from a alternte universe whose evil and his super form is pretty much able to beat super sonic super shadow super siver a hypithoerhical super tails and super amy and super cream at the same time the only reason he lost was sonic triked him into going back to base form which drained him of his energy
I would have loved to see surge battle more but it was cool 🙃👍
Great video now please make mephiles vs sonic exe for Halloween
You're kidding? Make an animation in 11 days?
@@BurnTHDon't listen to him, he's the type of guy to ask for random sprite battles, and also rush people.
Почему обязательно к Хэллоуину? просто сделайте. Я считаю, это хорошая идея.
@@Nutstranslate нет. Всё, что касается Соника.ЕХЕ - говно идея.
@@Nutstranslate Боже, если кто-то из них победить тогда такой срач начнётся комментах
My Boy Finally Gets a W
Archie vs Idw be like:
The super form on the already losing opponent is insane 😭
Hey do you share these sprites? they are really good and it would be cool to people who make sonic mugens to use it
Funniest thing is
Surge's mechanical augmentations make her super tanky including having a healing factor. Certainly didn't win the fight, but she has great odds of walking away while Scourge, even if he doesn't die from the heart attack after using Super Scourge, will have no power left and be drowned by Kit.
This stopped being a fight in the halfway point
Where do you got surge sprite?
LOL NICE COMPARISON!
TO THIS DAY, I pray scourge gets into the main series games
Too bad, it won't happen. Surge is basically IDW's version of Scourge, and since IDW is now canon to games, Scourge has no chances to appear, sadly.
@@BurnTH never say never, penders said hes open to allowing archie characters into games some time soon
Very awesome animation
Dayum, bro just went super for the disrespect
Black forces
The Children of Ashura the Hedgehog ladies and gentlemen.
What voice did you use for Surge? It sounds amazing.
Ryuko from Kill la Kill
ThankZ.
Wasn't expecting to see anything other than green flying around but plenty of red was about to. I'm sure she'll be fine
Honestly, If i encountered scourge, i would've just walked away without saying a word. 😅
He'd bully you, anyway.
@@Sakuyamaid16 Exactly.
la super forma era innecesaria, pero conociendo a este recolor verde, creo que eso es lo que el haría para ganar
I love the creator when they add blood
Я хоть знаю про Сердж, но блин почему другие комиксы от IDW до сих пор не перевели, а Скордж ну я не читал Арчи так что не знаю о нем практически ничего
Kit: "SONIC!!!!!!"
Sonic: "Oh he-.....surge?"
Kit: "Please you got to help, this green guy came out of nowhere and then turned purple!"
Sonic: "....right.....get surge to amy fast, she will get her the help surge needs right now.......where is he tho"
Kit: "Last i seen him was in deep forest zone, you can't miss where the fight happened"
Sonic: "....thanks kit.....go along now, sunset city, that's where amy is right now"
Kit: "Thank you sonic" *With surge in tow, makes a b line for the city*
Sonic: "......scourge.......you went too far"
(I don't know if this happened yet)
Sonic (frontiers) VS Scourge.
Does it say something about me that in these death battle type of Battles
The one I want to win never ever wins
This was a nice sprite battle to watch
I’ve even reacted to this video
You do remember she heals too fast making her pretty much unkillable she's like the zombots she survived getting smashed by a giant spicked ball while getting not hurt at all she survived the crumbling of eggmans city after Sonics fight
She heals just as fast as she is just like sonic but this us still accurate i garentee one of scourges punches is causing alot more damage than a giant spiked ball
Bro pls. Sonic and shadow can't even deal with scourge. What makes you think she stands a chance
@@Eminster well physically surge is pretty advanced and can take most hits and yeah she wouldn't win ofc not but I think she went down TOO easy
@@silverknight8619too easy? bro its super scourge which is way stronger than super sonic and shadow wym💀
@@silverknight8619
-Says that a Super Form should have more trouble
-Fully ignores the way that Super Sonic _humbled_ Zavok in less than a page, while in a form that gave Base Sonic much trouble in the past
-Also ignores that the first Sonic vs Surge was 100% one-sided, with Sonic even trying to convince Surge to give up mid fight (Thing which even takes place AFTER this animation)
Yeah, healing factor or not, the winner was pretty much decided before the fight even took place. I'd dare say that Surge put too much of a fight and should have gotten the Power-Up against base Scourge
@3:59 bro gave her the Sonic.exe treatment