Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy (HCM) in Cats

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  • @DividedWeakness
    @DividedWeakness Год назад +21

    My cat had HCM. He was diagnosed with heart murmur and asthma at 2 years old he almost made it to 8 but went into heart failure and wasn't responding to treatment. I had to put him to sleep, he declined so quickly. I always thought I would have more time with him. Such a terrible disease.

    • @idc5962
      @idc5962 11 месяцев назад

      I'm sorry for your loss. Did you cat get diagnosed with HCM as well or was it not detected?
      My cat was diagnosed with asthma but I currently suspect that she has HCM too. Does this mean that she might die at 8 years old even if she got treatment now or is this without treatment?

    • @DividedWeakness
      @DividedWeakness 11 месяцев назад

      @idc5962 he got diagnosed with it 3 days before he passed but the vet at first thought he had pneumonia. Unfortunately most cats don't live more than a year with HCM even with medications

    • @lu-wz1fk
      @lu-wz1fk Месяц назад

      @@DividedWeaknessmy cat got diagnosed with HCM 2 weeks ago. This is my biggest fear that I really don’t have much time with him 😭

  • @08emily89
    @08emily89 10 месяцев назад +8

    My cat was diagnosed with this exactly a year ago today and I’m here to give some hope!!
    Last year we took her to the vet a few times, no heart murmur was heard but wasn’t eaten well and developed rapid breathing. She had an ultrasound and they found lots of water on her chest (not lungs) this was drained and they noticed the left side of her heart had thickened. I asked the vet how long they thought she had left, she said she couldn’t tell me exactly but said it could be months or it could be years and years- it was impossible for her to estimate. After 2 nights at the vets she came home and started daily medication. Libeo and clopidogrel.
    Here we are a year later and she’s sitting next to me sleeping. It hasn’t been plain sailing, she’s had to go back to the vet twice this year after a spell of not eating but I’d say she is doing well. She still plays and has a good quality of life but sleeps a bit more than the average cat, which she has always done since a kitten.
    My advice would be to monitor how rapid your cats breathing is. Google says cats should take 15-30 breaths a minute but my vet said 15-40 is normal. DO NOT TRY TO COUNT WHEN THEY'RE PURRING. Cats breath much faster when they’re purring so don’t scare yourself! Weirdly she still doesn’t seem to have a heart murmur and different vets have tried to listen. She may develop this later down the line? But I hope not.
    Trust your gut and take them to the vet if they seem off.

    • @lu-wz1fk
      @lu-wz1fk Месяц назад

      My 4 year old got diagnosed 2 weeks ago with HCM, he had fluid in his lungs. He’s now on 3 different medications 6 times a day. Clopidogrel to prevent blood clots, vetmedin to help his heart pump better and Furesomide to keep the fluid of his lungs. This comment gives me hope! I don’t know what’s normal and what’s not. He’s been back and forth to the vet so much these last 2 weeks and twice ended up on oxygen. He still eats, plays, toilets. I panic every morning and I’m scared to get up as I don’t know what I’m getting up too.
      He had a heart and lung check at his booster appt in feb and everything was perfect and normal. Then 2 weeks ago we get this diagnosis.
      I hope and pray he is around for a long time as at 4 years old he’s still way too young! I don’t know what I’m doing, whether he is abdomen breathing or not. I just want to do right by him 😭 I’m glad your fur baby is doing well! It honestly gives me hope.

    • @08emily89
      @08emily89 13 дней назад

      I posted a comment again shortly after the comment I left. Initially I put off having an echocardiogram as the vet we saw said her initial scan showed all the signs of heart failure. Well after over a year of her daily medication and holding my breath, I decided to get an echocardiogram with another vet. EVERYTHING was perfect. No thickened side of her heart, no fluid, nothing. This vet said the initial thickening and fluid were probably due to an injury she must have sustained- she loves to climb trees, maybe she had a fall? I don’t know. She’s been off all medication for 10 months and she is like a kitten again! So much energy and such a happy girl.
      I highly recommend you get an echocardiogram so double check. I’m sending you all my love and positivity because for a year I was just stressing and it was awful.

    • @lu-wz1fk
      @lu-wz1fk 13 дней назад

      ⁠@@08emily89 he’s had scans with 2 different vet practices and he’s due a follow up scan in January, I don’t know if he has had an echocardiogram I’ll have to call them tomorrow and find out. Thank you and I am so glad your kitty is doing well now!!

  • @drEmulatorMadmax
    @drEmulatorMadmax 4 года назад +17

    my 18 getting on to 19 year old died wednesday night (back story he was on the new sofa, my mum stroked him he then jumped off went for a wee in the catbox jumped on my bed, started gasping for breath at which point i thought he was being sick so i said to my mum take him in the bathroom, he screamed, his tail went bushy, he pooped himself, then stumbled around in one litter box went in the other litter box stumbled around then went floppy and died ,
    i say this if your cat has any form of heart problem make sure they go to the vets regularly ! .
    my old lad had been breathing really roughly (fluid around the heart (it had a muffled sound as did his singing )and in his pleural cavity also known as the pleural space which had been drained twice , once in august last year, and then nearly 3 weeks latter (the vet had said to reduce the amount of frusol a diuretic) after the second draining of 260ml i was given a drug called cardalis which kept him breathing better for about 4 months , i also took him to a cardiologist who gave me vetmedin, aparently he had 4 points of valvular regurgitation (that's when the valves of the heart don't close, sad thing is that made him worse, he was violently ill two weeks ago first he was straining to poo then he was sick , so i took him back to the vets who said his heart was galopping about 190 beats per minute so i was given propranalol which worked but obviously he was in end stage hcm . he will be deaply missed
    *rest in piece my old pud bud* scooby 2002-2020

    • @SuperMarway
      @SuperMarway 4 года назад +4

      I'm so sorry for your loss, how are you holding up?
      I had to put my cat down this wednesday because of fluids in lungs and abdomen. He also had some kind of heart failure, and it would destroy me if I let him die of suffocation or blood clog. I'm glad he died painless, but I miss him af, 16 years old. I had him since I was 10-10 years old.

    • @drEmulatorMadmax
      @drEmulatorMadmax 4 года назад +3

      @@SuperMarway sorry to hear about your boy, yes i can guess it was congestive heart failure (it affects different cats in different ways) at least our lads didn't die on the roads .
      i'm not great at the mo missing the old guy like crazy, but at least i got a few extra months to say goodbye , as said above he started going into heart failure in august last year ,but i was naive and thought he would last longer with the meds i was given (the vet kindof gave me the impression that it wasn't that bad as she said "this could come back in 6 months or a few years" which yeah i thought at the time was a bit ott as he also had kidney disease ,
      i wish he had been given some plavix now(an anti platelet drug) but i guess i'll never know if he could have lasted a bit longer the median survival time is said to be between 2 days to 6 months so i suppose i was lucky , it was very costly (391.46 United States Dollar
      s or £300 gbp to have his chest drained i was told it can be very painful ,so your lad was spared that pain

    • @SuperMarway
      @SuperMarway 4 года назад

      @@drEmulatorMadmax I though a visit to the vet would result in some meds and then it would be all good. I was not prepared for this. At least I had him stroll around the yard before he went to sleep. Horrible seeing him lifeless after all these years, with the tail not moving at all like it always did.
      Yea I'm glad I spared him that. I he didn't get any meds but that would, as you say, only postpone for a few months with the knowledge that any moment he could become seriously ill.

    • @drEmulatorMadmax
      @drEmulatorMadmax 4 года назад +2

      @@SuperMarway yes you were spared the pain of giving him frusol or furosemide twice to three times a day plus the other pills and seeing him have a heart attack,i had hoped he would pass away peacefully in his sleep
      sad thing is i'm sure i gave him a cold (his breathing wasn't great but got worse tuesday) and i thought i'd loose him tuesday night but somehow he was still alive wednesday, i left him on my bed after he passed and his nose dripped fluid all night ,then i moved him into our conservatory where he used to sun himself and it stopped (saying that i did lay him on his other side) i'm still in shock

    • @SuperMarway
      @SuperMarway 4 года назад +4

      @@drEmulatorMadmax Yea, and he would be alone many hours during the day with me worrying if he had survived another day.
      It just shows how serious heart problems are. My vet didn't really recommend me investigating the heart of the old boy, because sparing them the pain when it eventually fails is probably the best instead of trying meds. A 12 year old is old enough to die, even though I wanted mine to become at least 18.
      It's not your fault, so don't blame yourself. Vets and doctors can't know for sure what will happen and the heart could stop at any moment. He died at home, that's what he will remember. He could have been hit by a car and suffered for an hour, as you said.
      Most of our cats memories are happy where they find themselves on the sofa, bed or outside next to us. Just chilling and having a good time waiting for their next meal. The week/day/hour before they pass away is what WE remember, but their souls will wait for us and tell us about all the other years we spent together.

  • @TheeZombieDinosaurs
    @TheeZombieDinosaurs 6 лет назад +15

    My cat that I adopted from the pound had this and she unfortunately died once she developed the cat flu also contracted at the pound.. they couldn't get her well they tried so hard and the vets were wonderful but it was one of the hardest things I experienced especially since it was on the weekend and It was so expensive but the vet did some tests for free for me to diagnose her but because she had underlying HCM (which I hadn't heard of before I lost her) it made it almost impossible for her to fight a simple cold she developed water on the lungs and heart fast and we had to make the decision to put her to sleep it was the first time I'd stayed with an animal all the way through but that's how much I loved her I wouldn't let her be alone (no one warned me that the eyes stay open or that the fluid from her lungs would leak out through her nose afterwards which throughly traumatized me).
    After all this i have been spreading the word about HCM.

  • @Jeffa101
    @Jeffa101 2 года назад +7

    My 13 week old kitten died on Wednesday night from HMC. He hadn’t eaten through the day possibly due to the heat, he sat in out cat box and didn’t want to get out, maybe that was a sign he needed to go to the vets. It was sudden and sudden death and we’re all shocked. He was fine through out the day, he was in the living room with my dad and the next minute his legs gave way, coughing like he was chocking, his lungs full of fluid, crapped him self and was taken to the 24hr vets. My parents believe he had lost consciousness in the car. The vets did the best they could but unfortunately his lungs were to full and he died. Can’t believe it. Now we’re getting all the kittens checked to make sure. This HMC is ab asshole and is genetic. Kittens from 3 months can have this without even knowing… I miss him soo much. 😢😿😭💔

    • @The_10th_Man
      @The_10th_Man Год назад

      HCM is genetic. But is probably exasperated by poor diet / obesity. There is also DCM which is generally from malnutrition. Become familiar with both.

  • @Devil-024
    @Devil-024 Год назад +5

    My cat just died two days ago on the 26th of September at the age of 11😭. When I just had him as a kitten the vet might of thought she heard a little bit of heart murmur, trough his life nothing was wrong with him until last year he couldn't walk to good with his back legs, took him to the vet had some antibiotics and medicine and after three weeks was able to walk again. I thought it was due to an injury because he just caught a bird, and perhaps he hurt his back by it. Last Sunday he was laying on a strange spot underneath a low table, and was starting to walk bad again. Monday he was the same laying in a hide spot breathing rapidly and walking difficult. Made an appointment with the vet but this was on Tuesday.
    On Tuesday morning I found him passed away 😭

    • @ghoststeppa9294
      @ghoststeppa9294 Год назад

      Rip your cat 🕊️ how Do I know my cat has it

    • @Devil-024
      @Devil-024 Год назад

      by tests at the vet @@ghoststeppa9294

  • @_samandriel
    @_samandriel 2 года назад +6

    My cat diagnosed with blood clot today. It’s just happen out of nowhere, no sign of illness at all prior to that. She was suddenly growling in pain, couldn’t walk with both of her back legs, breathing fast. First, I thought something fell on her but couldn’t find anything falling down. Went to the vet and realised that it was very serious. They put her in oxygen case straight away. It was too quick, too soon.

    • @nine9092
      @nine9092 16 дней назад +1

      Hey, what heppened after?

  • @reallauradee
    @reallauradee Год назад +4

    I don't understand why any form of treatment is done only when the disease has advanced into a more apparent complication. Why isn't anything done to lessen those symptoms?

  • @i_love_rescue_animals
    @i_love_rescue_animals 5 лет назад +13

    My cat, Knox, just got diagnosed with this. He's 7 years old. I knew he had a serious (grade 4) heart murmur - for several years. Then recently, he lost all his energy and his appetite (which might be related to something else). My cat's thyroid was also tested - and he is normal, so it's not due to hyperthyroidism. He's on lasix, plavix and some other heart medicine now.

    • @ludobmw540i
      @ludobmw540i 3 года назад

      My cat got diagnosed februari 2021 after a stroke, he's 17 years old. The vet gave gim a anti-coagulant injection and he had to start taking pimobendan 1,25mg , atenolol 12,5mg every 12h plus once a day clopidogrel 17,75mg. He had another little stroke in july, but recovered

    • @Torao-
      @Torao- 2 года назад

      your cat still alive?

  • @germanylicious
    @germanylicious Год назад +1

    What is your approach when a cat with HCM needs dental surgery? What is the biggest risk with the anesthesia? Blood clots or something else? and is it more dangerous during or after the surgery. What make it a complication?

  • @1xxicecatxx1
    @1xxicecatxx1 2 месяца назад +2

    My cat name was bubba, ge died on august 12th at 1am. He was only 4 and extremely loving. No signs or indications of HCM, but that night, he was breathing heavily, and has his tongue out, which never happened before.
    He was pronouced dead in 2 hours . He was found to have HCM and a level 6 of latex acid in him, the normal level is 2.
    He died in my arms and i was so scared that i couldn't even comfort him other than to look into his eyes for his final moments
    I miss you bubba you were my loving sweet friend who comforted me from morning to night, greet me at door everytime and always wanted to play. I love you friend, i will see you soon. 🧡

  • @laurafloyd5177
    @laurafloyd5177 Год назад +1

    Sad day today , had to let my yo-yo 15 yr old male kitty go. Yo-yo had HCM & Heart failure Left ventricular enlargement , pleural effusion had returned after two tries of thoracentesis, CKD , Anemia And medication but had to let him. Crushed hearts we have.

    • @runner2008
      @runner2008 10 месяцев назад

      I lost my cat three days ago. I am feeling your pain.

  • @PotooBurd
    @PotooBurd Год назад

    This is so informative!!! Fantastic video; I love this kind of content!🌻🌼🐝

  • @08emily89
    @08emily89 8 месяцев назад

    It turns out my cat was misdiagnosed. She had an echocardiogram and no sign of HCM. The new vet thinks she may have had an injury (which caused the fluid to build up around her chest and thickened side of her heart)but everything is fine. I had my suspicions because no vet has ever heard a heart murmur with her. I’m just so happy she’s okay.

  • @artemisajaimes4563
    @artemisajaimes4563 4 года назад +4

    My little 3 almost 4 years old cat just died last Saturday Sept 5th, 2020 - she had liquid into her tórax and lungs and also a 1.14 cms gross from the “septo diastole” (don’t know what it is in English) associated to a probable hypertrophic cardiomyopathy 😭

    • @OleM-0891
      @OleM-0891 3 года назад

      My cat is 2 years and also have a 1 centimeter wall 😑
      I understand your pain and i think it will hapen the same.

    • @sambenzema1183
      @sambenzema1183 3 года назад +1

      @@OleM-0891 My cat 3 year old passed away with a heart attack from HCM!!!!! God gave him no chance.

    • @OleM-0891
      @OleM-0891 3 года назад +2

      @@sambenzema1183 so sorry
      And very unfair its sad

    • @jhibberd6290
      @jhibberd6290 3 года назад +1

      So unfair 😢

    • @lassday
      @lassday 3 года назад +1

      @@sambenzema1183 my 3 year old cat dies of the exact same symptoms today.. :(

  • @holliejennings123
    @holliejennings123 7 лет назад +4

    My cat died yesterday due to her heart. She was diagnosed with heart murmur when she was 12.. and it just gave up on her :( 6 years later

    • @szqsk8
      @szqsk8 7 лет назад

      hollie jessica 🌹 🐈

    • @andreastyle4338
      @andreastyle4338 7 лет назад +4

      Holly Anthony My cat was diagnosed with it yesturday. She is only 4 years old. I'm so worried about her

    • @blixx87
      @blixx87 5 лет назад +1

      My 3 year old cat just died from HCM and we didint even know she had it till the last day! No signs or anything. :(

    • @OleM-0891
      @OleM-0891 3 года назад +1

      @@blixx87 my cat is 2 years old and already hipertrophy
      Discover it 1 month ago
      This is fucked up very bad luck
      Its a so special and kind cat like a son
      Very sad

    • @blixx87
      @blixx87 3 года назад

      @@OleM-0891 Hi, thats very sad to hear :( I hope your cat gets better!

  • @kazbaz8645
    @kazbaz8645 2 года назад +1

    Our cat has a heart murmur picked ip a few years ago after a feint. A scan showed i was told thickened heart and blood not being able to move as it should. Plus water in chest not lungs so much. He was on heart tablets clopidrogrel and water tabs.. water tabs were eventually discontinued by vets. I wqs told he could have two months to live. He had a heart scan yeaterday and his heart was normal aparrt feom murmur and his left side was only slightly thick at 8mm but hes a big cat. So wqs is a mis diagnosis? Hes been taken off all meds by cardio vet

    • @08emily89
      @08emily89 Год назад

      How are they doing now? My fat has this. She is on clopidogrel and water tablets

  • @paohaqui
    @paohaqui 3 года назад +2

    My cat was just was diagnosed with ATE
    feline hypertrophic cardiomyopathy with secondary iliac thromboembolism
    He had exactly those symptoms and we don't have much hope according to the vet 😢 he said he was going to give him aspirin and check how he reacted to the medication

    • @OleM-0891
      @OleM-0891 3 года назад +1

      How is him?

    • @nine9092
      @nine9092 16 дней назад

      How is/was he?

  • @agglyusr
    @agglyusr 3 года назад

    Great explanation! Does the cat have to be vocalizing for it to be a thromboembolism? I understand it's painful but what if they exhibit all the other symptoms, including 0 pain response, except vocalization, does the rule out thromboembolism?

    • @The_10th_Man
      @The_10th_Man Год назад

      Not sure but have them check for neurological.

  • @running4fun863
    @running4fun863 Год назад

    Yes this were this is what happened to my fur baby but no one can tell me ,if there were any treatments . I feel the decision to put my cat down , made without me was not right .

    • @martymarta
      @martymarta 10 месяцев назад

      That’s definitely not right sorry for your loss you should seek legal advice

  • @liveonce2102
    @liveonce2102 4 года назад +1

    Can a clot in the heart cause fluid around the heart?

  • @nhvnaturalpet
    @nhvnaturalpet 5 лет назад +8

    Tumeric and Omega 3's can help to support circulatory function and maintain cardiac health ❤️

  • @otakuven5733
    @otakuven5733 6 лет назад

    Does pain have to be present my 5 week year old kitten stopped nursing 3 days ago ive had to force feed her since she also exibiting a loss of function in the hind legs she'll use them sometimes but mostly drags them like the old perverts old dog off family guy the cartoon but she doesnt so much as whince in pain. I had a xray done the vet couldnt see anything wrong with spine but said that the heart may be to big he said he wasnt sure cause he does handle cases like that to often. Are there any treatments to save her since she still so young and body still has room to grow?

  • @seasparrow7427
    @seasparrow7427 4 года назад

    When a cat is diagnosed with ANY heart murmur, should the thyroid be check as a sop??

    • @nathaliecaron3938
      @nathaliecaron3938 4 года назад +2

      My 13 years old cat died today of heart failure. Yes have the thyroid ckeck. It has link to cause high blood pressure , heart problems. I regret I have not done that when he was younger .

    • @DubKc
      @DubKc 4 года назад

      @@nathaliecaron3938 Im sorry to hear that. How are you holding up? I have a question about it. I want to adopt a cat but the pound said he's healthy except that his blood work for HCM were a little high. But is not diagnosed with it. Does this mean I can potentially stop it from developing ? Or is just inevitable?

    • @The_10th_Man
      @The_10th_Man Год назад +1

      Thyroid should be checked at the very latest I would say around 7 years. A cat with a murmur I think should have an echo, it will provide much more info including grading the murmur.

  • @ginatrue5716
    @ginatrue5716 7 лет назад +2

    I HEARD THAT VITAMIN B IS THE CURE. IT ACTUALLY BRINGS THE HEART BACK TO NORMAL.

    • @KMWPTV
      @KMWPTV 7 лет назад +1

      really? my cat is suffering from HCM, as suspected to have FeLV as well. Sad and worry, try to find ways to help him.

    • @wholeNwon
      @wholeNwon 7 лет назад +14

      Wouldn't it be nice if that were true. But, unfortunately.....

    • @sassycat6487
      @sassycat6487 5 лет назад +24

      Please don't spread this disinformation. There is no 'cure' for this very deadly disease and only your vet can help you find the right plan to keep your feline as healthy as possible. My girl was diagnosed two years a go and going to a vet and fully cooperating with our vets expert advice and recommended treatment is the reason she is still with us.

    • @superjoule6277
      @superjoule6277 5 лет назад +9

      There is no cure.
      Stop spreading misinformation.

    • @i_love_rescue_animals
      @i_love_rescue_animals 5 лет назад +2

      @@wholeNwon Yes, I heard coffee enemas cure cancer too. Ugh. 🤦🏻‍♂️