I'm sorry Anje, but we had to replace you with Chainer. Anje: Who's that again? He has the power to create shadow demons. Anje: Oh, okay. That's fine. And Sevinne, we're replacing you with Pramikon. Sevinne: Who? A very colorful and incredibly infuriating wall. Sevinne: Oh...wait, what?
44:50 Graham plays Seedborn Muse. Fun fact about this card: It is part of one of the bigger judging oopses on the Magic Pro Tour (IMO) where neither the players nor the judges noticed the interaction between this card and the death trigger from Yosei, the Morning Star until after the game was over. This happened in the finals of Worlds 2005 between Frank Karsten (NLD) and Mori Katsuhiro (JPN). I'm a bit on the fence about recommending looking up the video coverage of the event. On the one hand there are some interesting and historically important decks like Karsten Gifts, Ghazi-Glare and Enduring Ideal/Form of the Dragon combo. And the latter was piloted by none other than one of Japan's best rogue deckbuilders of the time, Asahara Akira, wearing an outfit reminiscent of Jon Finkel's when he became world champion. On the other hand, it's blurry and low resolution as you would expect from 2005, but more than that it's _glacially_ slow which is hardly a surprise when we have Frank Karsten in the top 8 piloting a deck with Sensei's Divining Top and Gifts Ungiven. The quarterfinals alone took over 3 hours if I recall correctly. What's ridiculous is that Worlds 2005 doesn't even have a reputation as one of the most horribly slow top 8s. For example the following year we would have Gabriel Nassif playing a deck based on gaining life every turn with Martyr of Sands and getting it back with Proclamation of Rebirth. His only win condition was to skip turns with Chronosavant to eventually deck his opponent and maybe speeding it up by casting Compulsive Research on his opponent. They had to start the semifinals while Nassif was still grinding it out against Tiago Chan's UWR Good Stuff deck. Another infamously slow match was the finals of Worlds 2003 where we had a Mirari's Wake mirror match. Game 1 took over an hour which really cemented this match as legendarily slow (though it got less tedious after sideboarding).
Copying from the official Worlds text coverage of the finals: Game 2: [...] Frank untapped, played Kagemaro[, First to Suffer], and used his last mana to blow everything up. Mori cast a Seedborn Muse and used it to untap at the beginning of Karsten's next turn, which was locked down by Yosei. [...] Game 4: And then things got strange. As the players were shuffling up for Game 4, Head Judge Sheldon Menery informed the players that it been realized that a mistake may have occurred in Game 2. During that game, Mori had used his Seedborn Muse's ability on a turn when Frank Karsten had to skip his untap step due to a Yosei effect. However, since Karsten skipped his untap step, Seedborn Muse wouldn't have had a chance to untap Mori's lands, and Mori ended up using some of those untapped lands to cast Congregation at Dawn at the end of Karsten's turn. The match was put on hold and the judging staff reviewed the video of the event to confirm that this is what had happened. On the video, it was clear this had occurred. The ruling was that, because everybody involved had missed it, it had to be allowed to stand. Mori was given a procedural warning because it is his responsibility to know how his cards work, and we were off to Game 4.
I’m waiting for one day when instead of playing MTG Beej just walks in and says “we’re playing Yugioh now bois!?!” Also, on the note of Yugioh, Graham looking at his Morphs is just him looking him at his trap cards.
the pigimon hub Yu-Gi-Oh with normal non-meta decks would actually be pretty fun I can imagine, there a ton of cards to make pre-cons for them from and the rules are super simple
Here's my opinion: Yu-Gi-Oh TCG format is an equivalent of Modern format in MTG Yu-Gi-Oh Speed Duel format is probably an equivalent of Standard format While Traditional Yu-Gi-Oh is an equivalent of Vintage? *Somebody send these guys some Yu-Gi-Oh decks for them to play!*
I was so happy to see you reference the Defunctland Jim Henson miniseries. It makes me happy when my favorite content creators enjoy each other's work.
Paul: "I'm really glad you all have different colored sleeves. That could've gotten awkward!" Me: Paul, that actually sounds like a really good idea for a FNPF!!! Just everyone playing colors that interlace with each other and to truly not know what the outcome will be. That would be weird yet fun to watch if it's something you're all interested in thinking about!
@@diegodematteis9711 I don't think they do these live? On some they do drafts and cut straight to after deckbuilding, so there has to be some amount of editing going on. I could be wrong, but just my understanding of it.
@@diegodematteis9711 I don't think they do these live? On some they do drafts and cut straight to after deckbuilding, so there has to be some amount of editing going on. I could be wrong, but just my understanding of it.
My first thought was “Oh poor Ian! U’ve never won a commander game.” But then there was the second game, Ian finally got to do some thing! And Alex and Graham died! Things are looking bright now! But as always Ian is on the short end of the straw. Maybe next time! Congrats Cori!
time code is off, but I believe you mean after Cori played Mandate of Peace, which says "Your opponents can't cast spells this turn" which includes Graham's end step
No, but it is an action you can take any time during the game which cannot be responded to. It thus acts before the stack. This is important when you or an opponent dies with a spell or ability on the stack, as the the one who concedes removes all spells and abilities he or she controls that are on the stack.Can come in handy if, for example, an opponent tries to use the Sydri-Aetherflux Reservoir combo targeting you. Just concede so they won't gain any life and are at single digits.
Second time Cori cast the Wall of stolen identity she should have copied Seedborn Muse, anyways interesting and fun game. The Precons seem to make for a fun and pretty good balanced experience :)
I guessed it was because the last FNPF commander game had Cameron in the spot where Cori was and I was right. Paul must've glanced at it while changing names, saw a C first name and thought it was correct.
If I'm not mistaken once a month is the usual frequency of commander happening on Friday Night Paper Fight, but I don't know if it's always the 2nd or 3rd friday of the month or if it's "random" :)
Eric Heidgerd he’s the commander with the least interaction. Forking 1 flashback spell every turn isn’t nearly as powerful or interesting as playing the top card of your library w/ flash or messing up people’s attacks and targeting certain players.
after the two hour mark, the interactions between them get more and more unhinged and its super enjoyable to watch :D also, 'grats cori- ive never actually seen her win one of these
Manifest then triggers Kadena's second ability, so he should then draw a card. Only thing worse is once you add in a creature flash effect and also play a free morph on every person's turn as well.
@@timothythiessen1378 yeah there's a lot of abilities unused. But as the board state was, maybe he just wanted to balance the game a bit. I guess otherwise she would just end the game
![Commander VS S16E8: Kadena VS Sevinne VS Ghired VS Anje [EDH]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/L9vIqyIu0dk/mqdefault.jpg)
Graham: "Hang on, i need to read this card."
*Reads*
Graham: "Wait, hang on. What?"
*Takes off glasses to read better*
I'm guessing he was reading Bounty of the Luxa
@@ujai5271 At 51:05 he says "This is the card I had to read" when casting Sudden Substitution
I'm sorry Anje, but we had to replace you with Chainer.
Anje: Who's that again?
He has the power to create shadow demons.
Anje: Oh, okay. That's fine.
And Sevinne, we're replacing you with Pramikon.
Sevinne: Who?
A very colorful and incredibly infuriating wall.
Sevinne: Oh...wait, what?
And this is why you say no to tempting offers kids.
James Trevelyan nah. Just get all your stipmibes. Also I just had a fascinating discussion with people about it last night.
Well you see that the three seem to have not that much experience in commander. I actually coudn´t believe that they all took the offering
Andrew James ya I know, but that’s the ideal response.
wellll..... it IS tempting
Oh so tempting, very enticing indeed :3
“I’m gonna fill up the Luxa” is as good as “ Gonna see a man about a dog” for phrases about going to the bathroom - Thank you Alex for that one
56:23
I died when Cori and Graham both look at the card reader and in unison say, "Huh!".
it was hilarious
3:09:01 I laughed out loud as Graham, deeply contemplating his next move, zoomed out to find a wall of playing cards in Alex's battlefield.
Don't vape strontium!"
-Alex Steacy
44:50 Graham plays Seedborn Muse. Fun fact about this card: It is part of one of the bigger judging oopses on the Magic Pro Tour (IMO) where neither the players nor the judges noticed the interaction between this card and the death trigger from Yosei, the Morning Star until after the game was over. This happened in the finals of Worlds 2005 between Frank Karsten (NLD) and Mori Katsuhiro (JPN).
I'm a bit on the fence about recommending looking up the video coverage of the event. On the one hand there are some interesting and historically important decks like Karsten Gifts, Ghazi-Glare and Enduring Ideal/Form of the Dragon combo. And the latter was piloted by none other than one of Japan's best rogue deckbuilders of the time, Asahara Akira, wearing an outfit reminiscent of Jon Finkel's when he became world champion. On the other hand, it's blurry and low resolution as you would expect from 2005, but more than that it's _glacially_ slow which is hardly a surprise when we have Frank Karsten in the top 8 piloting a deck with Sensei's Divining Top and Gifts Ungiven. The quarterfinals alone took over 3 hours if I recall correctly.
What's ridiculous is that Worlds 2005 doesn't even have a reputation as one of the most horribly slow top 8s. For example the following year we would have Gabriel Nassif playing a deck based on gaining life every turn with Martyr of Sands and getting it back with Proclamation of Rebirth. His only win condition was to skip turns with Chronosavant to eventually deck his opponent and maybe speeding it up by casting Compulsive Research on his opponent. They had to start the semifinals while Nassif was still grinding it out against Tiago Chan's UWR Good Stuff deck. Another infamously slow match was the finals of Worlds 2003 where we had a Mirari's Wake mirror match. Game 1 took over an hour which really cemented this match as legendarily slow (though it got less tedious after sideboarding).
ok, what actually happened in the game with those cards? who had the muse and who had the yosei?
Copying from the official Worlds text coverage of the finals:
Game 2: [...] Frank untapped, played Kagemaro[, First to Suffer], and used his last mana to blow everything up. Mori cast a Seedborn Muse and used it to untap at the beginning of Karsten's next turn, which was locked down by Yosei. [...]
Game 4: And then things got strange. As the players were shuffling up for Game 4, Head Judge Sheldon Menery informed the players that it been realized that a mistake may have occurred in Game 2. During that game, Mori had used his Seedborn Muse's ability on a turn when Frank Karsten had to skip his untap step due to a Yosei effect.
However, since Karsten skipped his untap step, Seedborn Muse wouldn't have had a chance to untap Mori's lands, and Mori ended up using some of those untapped lands to cast Congregation at Dawn at the end of Karsten's turn. The match was put on hold and the judging staff reviewed the video of the event to confirm that this is what had happened.
On the video, it was clear this had occurred. The ruling was that, because everybody involved had missed it, it had to be allowed to stand. Mori was given a procedural warning because it is his responsibility to know how his cards work, and we were off to Game 4.
Thank you for the informative followup
I’m waiting for one day when instead of playing MTG Beej just walks in and says “we’re playing Yugioh now bois!?!”
Also, on the note of Yugioh, Graham looking at his Morphs is just him looking him at his trap cards.
the pigimon hub Yu-Gi-Oh with normal non-meta decks would actually be pretty fun I can imagine, there a ton of cards to make pre-cons for them from and the rules are super simple
I would piss myself laughing if that happened.
Here's my opinion:
Yu-Gi-Oh TCG format is an equivalent of Modern format in MTG
Yu-Gi-Oh Speed Duel format is probably an equivalent of Standard format
While Traditional Yu-Gi-Oh is an equivalent of Vintage?
*Somebody send these guys some Yu-Gi-Oh decks for them to play!*
@@novrdd The traditional format is probably the most like vintage, given that it has exactly the same policy towards banned cards.
Yugioh is fun and hilariously fast.
Cori CHOSE to get attacked only by the Populate player? Bold.
And also only be able to attack the player with morphs.
I was so happy to see you reference the Defunctland Jim Henson miniseries. It makes me happy when my favorite content creators enjoy each other's work.
Paul: "I'm really glad you all have different colored sleeves. That could've gotten awkward!"
Me: Paul, that actually sounds like a really good idea for a FNPF!!! Just everyone playing colors that interlace with each other and to truly not know what the outcome will be. That would be weird yet fun to watch if it's something you're all interested in thinking about!
Love being in the Italian time zone! Means I get to watch these right when they drop! Anyway, love the content! Please keep it up!
nice, I'm also in Italy and it dropped at a nice time for sure
@@mrbreeze3954 I would love to catch these live instead :(
TheSpartan4109 fairly certain most of Europe has the same timezone, so with that being said I’m also happy to be in the Italian timezone, Guten Abend!
@@diegodematteis9711 I don't think they do these live? On some they do drafts and cut straight to after deckbuilding, so there has to be some amount of editing going on. I could be wrong, but just my understanding of it.
@@diegodematteis9711 I don't think they do these live? On some they do drafts and cut straight to after deckbuilding, so there has to be some amount of editing going on. I could be wrong, but just my understanding of it.
Gee it almost looks like it wasn't worth letting Graham play 4 extra lands in one turn. Huh! Who could've possibly known this!
19:01 I died at Graham's description of anemone movements
1:51:15 no lie, the Thunderbirds theme popped in my head, AND THERE THEY GO
God i love the LRR team
They should have had Ian play the Morph deck. Chrome Shell Crab anyone?
The quiet "My legs are tapping on their own!" killed me
A great bit of showmanship by Alex at 2:18:20
Doesnt the button say "before damage I concede"
"In response, I top."
good thing i'm a switch
@@tomjackal5708
Pfffffffff!
What's Alex's Stand name? My vote is for Hate Mirage, since Ian said it would be a good album.
The way I think of it, Ash Barrens is just Evolving Wilds but you choose which land to tap, rather than the one entering the battlefield.
can we talk about how weird it is ghired, a former member of selesnya, who was exiled from their ranks, has the leader of the guild in his deck?
Is that a jojo reference in my game of magic the gathering
Love being in the Texas time zone! Means I get to watch these right when they drop! Anyway, love the content! Please keep it up!
C R jokes on you it’s midnight for me and I can watch them to o
SnowToad second joke is just above this comment.
At about 3:00 anyone know what game Paul is referring to and if there's video of it?
10/5/2018 The ability that defines Crackling Drake’s power works in all zones.
Ian could have embalmed the manticore sacrificing the horror dealing like 17 damage straight to Cori's face
My first thought was “Oh poor Ian! U’ve never won a commander game.”
But then there was the second game, Ian finally got to do some thing! And Alex and Graham died!
Things are looking bright now!
But as always Ian is on the short end of the straw.
Maybe next time!
Congrats Cori!
Cori's name says cameron on the screen
Worn Powerstone ALSO enters tapped
"We're here for a fun game, not a long game"
Video is almost 4 hours long.
To be fair, the first game ran for about an hour.
It’s better than the 5 hour one with Graham, Kathleen, Cori, and Ian
Cookies Aplenty value
@@fletcherpratt4281 Don't you mean worse? Give me moooooar!
I think it is the first time I don't see the Kadena player die first from the various content creators I watched.
Alex: Did you ever go to MOS burger.
Woah. I’m actually watching this while eating at a MOS.
3:34 Hey! Not much. Hope all is well with you!
What game was Alex playing at the end? I can't seem to figure out the rules.
Pyramid solitaire
Did anybody else notice that graham is wearing a tolarian community college shirt
Reading the card, explains the card ;) … mostly!!
I have been waiting for this
Since the skin thinner was manifested and not morphed couldn’t graham have paid just the two mana and at least destroyed something? 3:06:30
graham's grismould shouldve been one bigger when he attacked ian, bc cori's drake had died blocking ian's eldrazi
The Human creature tokens seem to come from Increasing Devotion.
Since when can't you cast spells in response to a person's end step? 1:31
time code is off, but I believe you mean after Cori played Mandate of Peace, which says "Your opponents can't cast spells this turn" which includes Graham's end step
@@brandonschaber3705 I missed that she played a spell that did that. My bad. Thanks!
When I ordered my C19 I asked for a button (I said in the extra comments part "LRR sent me, button please") and I didn't get one...so sad
AFK - A Friday Knight (paper fight)
Alex playing free cell at the end
Wait, so conceding goes on the stack?
No, but it is an action you can take any time during the game which cannot be responded to. It thus acts before the stack. This is important when you or an opponent dies with a spell or ability on the stack, as the the one who concedes removes all spells and abilities he or she controls that are on the stack.Can come in handy if, for example, an opponent tries to use the Sydri-Aetherflux Reservoir combo targeting you. Just concede so they won't gain any life and are at single digits.
I know man, I was just being ironic
Second time Cori cast the Wall of stolen identity she should have copied Seedborn Muse, anyways interesting and fun game. The Precons seem to make for a fun and pretty good balanced experience :)
Ian, starting the game off strong
i really don't understand how alex was playing mahjong with playing cards?! like can someone please explain
6:15 start
Woohoo! They answered my question and said my name on stream. I have become IMMORTAL! (At least within the MTG PPR community)
Ian tapping selesnya sanctuary for 1 and not 2 the entire second game!
Why does Cori have Cameron’s name
Brenton Barber because they preformed the dance of fusion.
turns up, it was lazav all along
I guessed it was because the last FNPF commander game had Cameron in the spot where Cori was and I was right. Paul must've glanced at it while changing names, saw a C first name and thought it was correct.
So is this dead?
Friday Night Paper Fight streams? All of our magic related content now gets posted on ruclips.net/user/LRRMTG
@@loadingreadylive ahhhh got ya
Down with the Signets
Happy Birthday!!
So do they play commander mouthy? Or do they have a set schedule for commander?
If I'm not mistaken once a month is the usual frequency of commander happening on Friday Night Paper Fight, but I don't know if it's always the 2nd or 3rd friday of the month or if it's "random" :)
I'm pretty sure only Alex plays commander "mouthy." Can't stop the man from saying deeply cursed things. :p
@@Radiodragonofdoom Ahahah that's for sure
*make a 4/4 when it attacks, I don't want any part of that*
10:39 "left"
Are Ian and Cori together?
9:20 I thought he gave that to intern Derek.
The false gods where Emiria, Kozy and Uli. Later to be revealed as The big 3 eldrazi (I believe)
The OG false god for this temple was however Karona
graham and alex start playing blackjack,
alex deals himself blackjack with graham on 20, and dabs
graham deals himself blackjack with alex on 20
Was anyone else interested in the game Alex was playing instead of the commander game around him
WHY DOES NO ONE WANNA PLAY POOR OLD SAVINNE. The only gameplay ive seen of him was from the scg guys and hes the one i wanna see the most
boring
Eric Heidgerd he’s the commander with the least interaction. Forking 1 flashback spell every turn isn’t nearly as powerful or interesting as playing the top card of your library w/ flash or messing up people’s attacks and targeting certain players.
I do want to see him one of my friends sevinne decks is my favorite to play against and I'm always looking forward to other people's take on him
Gerrard Way-therlight Hero
Yay house Hippos
Just watched a video of an anenome swimming and it was kind of cute to be honest...
Watching this has been a wholesome and edifying experience.
Wait, i thought they already posted this episode
What happened to CAM?!
Cam went to MagicFest Vegas during this game. Paul forgot to change the display name to Cori from last commander.
I loved MXC
after the two hour mark, the interactions between them get more and more unhinged and its super enjoyable to watch :D
also, 'grats cori- ive never actually seen her win one of these
Game two, around 1:46:00, Ian pays to much mana for Emmara Tandris. (I apologize for my spelling)
Graham referencing MXC was something I didn't realize I needed until it happened
Alex Steacy, watching osw Review by any chance? \o/
@Graham: Seedborn Muse and Scroll of Fate = every Turn a manifest...u used none of them :D
Manifest then triggers Kadena's second ability, so he should then draw a card. Only thing worse is once you add in a creature flash effect and also play a free morph on every person's turn as well.
@@timothythiessen1378 yeah there's a lot of abilities unused. But as the board state was, maybe he just wanted to balance the game a bit. I guess otherwise she would just end the game
Poor Alex everyone seemed to target hom
Who else gets the reference to Dark Crystal?
Gram noo mimic vat the wall and copy ghired every turn for them sweet etb's..
I think cori picked the worst possible commander from that precon
The altisaur should've gone back under the vat
Alex juggernaut ref ♡♡
Kr’rrik’s real name is Eric his just in an edgy teenage phase.
It's so cool how most of the audio is alex making random noises. Doesn't get old at all.
Glad you're enjoying the lasting appeal!
Alex really should have use Anja, because she is card draw. Cori shouldn't have used Pramikon,
Alex with all the OSW Review references! Get in my boy stable!
myah myah myah
56:23
Idk if i should like the vid.... its at 420
Wall of Gaslighting
yay