That was a lot to chew upon...I now have 3 mind-testicles and my pineal gland shoots out unconsciously to tap out microtonal parallel negative inverted diminished arpeggios.
This was an amazing video on Negative Harmony! I also agree that a theory/technique lessons provide a solid well-rounded music foundation and invaluable. You have done it again exalted one!
Dope, Shred. Thanks for all you do and your consistent high quality videos. I laugh my head off and see new perspectives. Fellow classical guitarist here by the way.
Great stuff, it's always a challenge to deviate from conventional habits and write something both different *and* interesting. I get in a rut when I keep coming back to the same tried and true bag of tricks that always work. Your eroti....umm... exotic eastern minor scales videos revived my passion after one such rut, and likewise, this lesson provided a whole new pallette for me to play around with. Appreciate your content, and kudos for keeping it informative and interesting at the same time.
Shred I appreciate your tuition on scales and theory overall. Would you consider going down the route of Allan Holdsworth's scales and approach to scales and chords from them? That man's playing is an absolute rabbit hole
Good stuff man! This seems very similar to the concept of mode mixture where you combine chords from both a major key and it's parallel minor. But the concept of negative harmony is a totally different, new and fresh approach. I'm gonna have fun exploring this!
Excellent video shred. A related question - does your Scale "Bible" also include bonus Dark Knowledge for things like enslaving souls, vanquishing enemies or at least getting free beer?
I don't get how the motion combinaisons work. I tried to recreate the RPL exemple for C major but I couldn't get Fm as a result. In which order do I have to apply the motions and do I have to apply the different motions on the result of the precedent motion of the combinaison ? I'm absolutely confused ._. Otherwise, it's a pretty good vidéo, thanks a lot !
Excellent videos as always master shred!! I always try incorporate your lessons when trying to write riffs! 🤘🏽🔥 I pledge my allegiance to Master Shred!
Fun fact: If you apply R and then L and then R and then L to any given chord (say C major) you generate all the 24 major and minor chords. In other words, you can go from C major (or whatever) to any chord you want. Also, applying P is the same as doing R and L three times and then R once again. While L is equal to R(LR)^11.
ok, i've managed to grasp some of this but when i work through some of the chord motions you've done I'm not getting the same answers, parallel motion resulting in C#mb5?!? how'd that work out? I'm so very confused... surely A> LP would be Amaj-C#minor(L)-C#Major(P). RLP for C#m should go to G#Major right? not C Major... Unless its a simple typo... RPL works for it...
@@metaljay2896 This is exactly what I was gonna ask. Do only major and minor count as parallel keys, or does any mode or scale count? Logically, the answer is probably that as long as they start on the same root note, any key is a parallel to any other key. So logically, you can probably do many of these same concepts between A harmonic minor and A mixolydian, for instance. Not at all sure how that would sound, but it seems logically acceptable based on what’s going on here between Ionian and Aeolian.
@@metaljay2896 So, the idea behind negative harmony is based on, but intentionally obscures, the fact that the major scale actually inverts not to the minor (Aeolian) scale, but rather to the Phrygian--notice how the C minor scale at 2:50 went from G to G, not from C to C? That's because the Ionian interval pattern is the same as the Phrygian pattern, just in reverse. "Negative harmony" kind of just artificially bumps it back to being the parallel minor of the major key you're starting with, often just as a way to explain mode mixture, as I believe John Williams mentioned elsewhere. In any case, the point of this is to say that other modes have exactly this same type of inversional property. Just order them from brightest to darkest: Lydian Ionian Mixolydian Dorian Aeolian Phrygian Locrian ...and connect the pairs on the opposite ends, and you'll see: Lydian and Locrian invert to each other, Ionian and Phrygian invert to each other, Mixolydian and Aeolian invert to each other, and Dorian inverts to itself!
Isn't an inverted major scale the Phrygian mode? The last two notes of the major scale is a half-step, so inverting should make the first two notes a half-step.
So… negative harmony is essentially based around the same underlying concept as modal interchange, yes? All you seem to be doing here is playing with parallel keys, much like John Lennon’s Nowhere Man chord progression (I > V > IV > I > ii > iv > I), where the fourth is eventually minor, to take E major temporarily into E minor, without counting as a full modulation.
Really enjoyed definitely can play rhythm on guitar and piano also own drums (not the best) and anyone can play bass ... However I listen to metal some its goofy I like things like nightwish or scar symmetry and gwar but ... I actually am evangelical and find myself not listening to metal as my main ... So ... I like country and fiddles, Creed ... Etc ... Five iron POD even country rap but you know everyone country loves hard rock and metal from zz top to acdc rush any of it. I like avenged 12 foot ninja and metal. I also like musician music like you yourself play I will actually learn your trill for fun. : ) I do play lead no problem as well ... Peace. Not mentioning the evil my favorite interviews with megadeth and korn are when they become evangelicals since I am that. But much love. Music theory you can make so many epic sounds. And you are an inspiration because you are alive and trying. I like obviously a lot more. I'm not sold out to metal or punk at all. I do play it and listen to it. Not as often as country or light rock,but I mean i play music I like it all. More of a Jesus lightworker type I do not listen to worship as music though because I like actual music. I liked your points. I liked your trill. You worked hard to make it cool in the end. Good on that. Back to evil, well ... Evil? I don't like big government. That's the end of that then. Evil? You mean the government ...
Malice ... Nah. Selfish as long as its me not you. Murder guns all that. Me not you. If its murder some things are rights. Not wrongs.... Government is them unless it's me. All that. Nonsense to me. Mischief ... Depends on the spirit you can raise a little bit with a good attitude. Anger ... Well anger is what we naturally have to the government who doesn't want to respect rights. But who wants to be angry. I want to be happy. Patience long suffering. Hero. You are a guitar hero. Are you also a villain? Yes. Simply. But .. Just saying for myself. Maybe you aren't a guitar villain. Maybe you are a hero.
Shred, an insightful delve into negative harmony, unfortunately it was something that was left out in my theory classes. May I ask where you gained this forbidden knowledge?
Dude this one is as delicious as WAP! Do you always construct the scale for conversion by starting on the 5th? Also, I would like to check in with you about starting private lessons but I dont use facebook. I have your patreon and maybe can reach out that way? Thanks man I dig this one bigtime!
Does this scale have a name G, A, B, C, C#, D, E, F, F#? It's the keys of G,C, and D in one scale it has all the chords of all those scales. I'm assuming it has a name. I stumbled on this by chance just wondering if anyone knows.
But one thing I don’t get is why everyone was so “wow” when Jacob collier came up with this. I mean seriously even if I don’t understand everything, I always thought that the key of C minor is the negative twin of C major? What’s now so grand about this? Anyway I love you Shred, you are the real mastermind here ;)
Did the real pie’d piper really play the pipe organ at the church I wonder,,,,by the way I am a complete novice on guitar teach myself type slow it is. Your professional ism is good.
How much did pandora scream when you opened her box? that's cool that the diminisheds stay diminished after the flip. time to get famous flipping all the old beatles songs. i like shimmer-verb too. fwiw, i used to take polkas and bluegrass and change them to minor. it sure changed the feel of the songs. off topic: take a look at "Pavane for a dead Princess" by ravel in 1899. super sad song and he pulls it off in the key of G major.
I learned theory in college in the late 80's, then got hit by a car and forgot all of it. I have amnesia and agnosia, which means I can't recognize or make sense of it, which means I can't relearn it. I can grasp aspects of it in the sense that I sort of get how it's done, but I can't process it in terms of note names, scales, modes, etc. I still have the compositional sensibilities I developed in college in terms of how I hear things and make sense of patterns, but that's it. I blindly compose my music, feeling around until I find something that matches the color and flavor of the emotional layers I'm trying to express. Or I hear entire riffs in my head either as a melody or a chord sequence and then figure out the fingering for it. I don't know if you believe in the supernatural, but I believe that spirits enter me and take part in this process. Our minds overlap, I feel some experience they had in life through their perspective and identify it with my own experience, and in that moment of mental overlap, a riff forms as a sort of soundtrack expression of the emotional content of those experiences. The spirit then guides me in the creation of an entire song from it. I take the whole muse thing very literally; not in the purely mythological sense like the specific Greek goddesses, but in the sense that any spiritual communion can produce a creative outcome. A large portion of my compositions come from that process of spirit possession.
There's other ways also. There is mirror harmony (root/tritone axsis) Negative harmony (the in between axsis) There's also I forget the name of it.... it where you use any axsis.
If we're going to talk about Olivia Rodrigo, are we going to include all blues players and singers after the turn of the 20th century as well for always using the same chord progressions and melodies from other artists?
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This is a seriously good way fo coming up with out-there chords and phrasing. That string skipping lick is actually really beautiful!
That was a lot to chew upon...I now have 3 mind-testicles and my pineal gland shoots out unconsciously to tap out microtonal parallel negative inverted diminished arpeggios.
I learned a lot of things from your channel. You explain things so easily even to us who are not native English speakers.
Thanks for the descending minor scale from the 5th note of the major tip. By far the easiest method I’ve seen yet.
This was an amazing video on Negative Harmony! I also agree that a theory/technique lessons provide a solid well-rounded music foundation and invaluable. You have done it again exalted one!
Thanks for keeping me sane down here in Australia Shred !!! Truly enjoy your stuff bro
You got me with the "Twinkle Twinkle BIG Star" line.
you were asking what we want to see. This is the good stuff for me!
Never heard of this concept before and my mind is slightly blown. Thank you for the insights!
I feel I’ve played this style of harmony and didn’t even know what it was. Awesome performance Shred.
Shred, you are really kicking around the seXXy stuff! It‘s just friggin’ awesome! I for one ordered your bibles! Danke, keep up the good work!
Epic lesson, definitely expanded my horizons in technique and theory!
Dope, Shred. Thanks for all you do and your consistent high quality videos. I laugh my head off and see new perspectives. Fellow classical guitarist here by the way.
Man you putting in the work 💪 thank you shred!
Shred vids are always good but this the most interesting yet. Got my mind really thinking.
Great stuff, it's always a challenge to deviate from conventional habits and write something both different *and* interesting. I get in a rut when I keep coming back to the same tried and true bag of tricks that always work.
Your eroti....umm... exotic eastern minor scales videos revived my passion after one such rut, and likewise, this lesson provided a whole new pallette for me to play around with.
Appreciate your content, and kudos for keeping it informative and interesting at the same time.
dude your harmonies blew my fkn mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shred I appreciate your tuition on scales and theory overall. Would you consider going down the route of Allan Holdsworth's scales and approach to scales and chords from them? That man's playing is an absolute rabbit hole
Send me a video to my email Shredmasterscott@gmail.com
this will be extremely helpful writing atomospheric black metal for sure!
Yeah, the lead work sounds amazing. Great system.
Nothing better than missing school to watch shred
Im doing online school and it’s great since I can Practice bass more as long as I get work done
Shred IS school
Stay in school I used to do that now I make my own shreds
This is easily some of the coolest music theory shit I’ve ever seen. Definitely gonna be using this…metal af
Good stuff man! This seems very similar to the concept of mode mixture where you combine chords from both a major key and it's parallel minor. But the concept of negative harmony is a totally different, new and fresh approach. I'm gonna have fun exploring this!
Excellent video shred. A related question - does your Scale "Bible" also include bonus Dark Knowledge for things like enslaving souls, vanquishing enemies or at least getting free beer?
Muhahaha of course
Nicely explained
Good vid! I’m gonna negativize some of my existing riffs to see if anything interesting comes out of it.
can anyone explain how E-Fm is RLP (8:22)?
Supercool! It really it is a game changer for me. Thanks man!
And I will use this in my future works.
I seen another video where the negative key of C is between the dominant 5th and major .. making the negative at and around E
The best video/topic/example in a long time...(!)
This will help me streamline all my backmasking inversion compositions
The Cause thanks you for your contribution to our productivity
Another excellent songwriting tool. This one may take a few rewatches to completely understand though. We’ll done on the etude. 👺👹💀🤘
hey shred can you please do a video on Igor Stravinsky the Rite of Spring
Super exotic sounds🤘🏼🎸
I don't get how the motion combinaisons work. I tried to recreate the RPL exemple for C major but I couldn't get Fm as a result. In which order do I have to apply the motions and do I have to apply the different motions on the result of the precedent motion of the combinaison ? I'm absolutely confused ._.
Otherwise, it's a pretty good vidéo, thanks a lot !
Excellent videos as always master shred!! I always try incorporate your lessons when trying to write riffs! 🤘🏽🔥 I pledge my allegiance to Master Shred!
Thanks shred 💯
Hell yeah. My favorite concept!
This is some the best.🤟...IVE EVER HEARD...
1:22 first 3 notes of the C major scale sound like the opening to Dammit by blink-182
Very interesting. Nice 👍
8:45 I'm pretty sure there's an LG ad where the music has these chords
Parallel, relative minor, leading tone
PRL
It sounded badass and harmony at the same time
You base the world bro haha good stuff
The etude sounded like a blend of Dream Theater and Opeth, killer stuff as always dude, \m/
Holy shit... There's a lot to wrap my head around here, but I definitely will be using this in the future
Would the negative mode of the C-Major Scale be a descending Ab-Lydian?
Very interesting!
So I can do negative harmony by replacing the major scale with a minor?
Negative harmony rocks!
Very cool ty friend
Fun fact: If you apply R and then L and then R and then L to any given chord (say C major) you generate all the 24 major and minor chords. In other words, you can go from C major (or whatever) to any chord you want. Also, applying P is the same as doing R and L three times and then R once again. While L is equal to R(LR)^11.
damn this is a great lesson.thank u shred
Shred manages to shoot this knowledge in my ear with a curve-shot so it doesn't fall out the other one!
AWESOME!!!
I don't understand the combined motions. Can you explain that?
What a fucking legend.
ok, i've managed to grasp some of this but when i work through some of the chord motions you've done I'm not getting the same answers, parallel motion resulting in C#mb5?!? how'd that work out? I'm so very confused... surely A> LP would be Amaj-C#minor(L)-C#Major(P). RLP for C#m should go to G#Major right? not C Major... Unless its a simple typo... RPL works for it...
How do we do negative harmony in other keys?
Does A major also go to A minor just like C does?
yes, works the same in any key
Do the modes occur in the same pattern when we flip the relative major scale to minor?
Like would D Dorian become D locrian?
Parallel keys… every key has one.
@@metaljay2896
This is exactly what I was gonna ask. Do only major and minor count as parallel keys, or does any mode or scale count? Logically, the answer is probably that as long as they start on the same root note, any key is a parallel to any other key.
So logically, you can probably do many of these same concepts between A harmonic minor and A mixolydian, for instance. Not at all sure how that would sound, but it seems logically acceptable based on what’s going on here between Ionian and Aeolian.
@@metaljay2896 So, the idea behind negative harmony is based on, but intentionally obscures, the fact that the major scale actually inverts not to the minor (Aeolian) scale, but rather to the Phrygian--notice how the C minor scale at 2:50 went from G to G, not from C to C? That's because the Ionian interval pattern is the same as the Phrygian pattern, just in reverse. "Negative harmony" kind of just artificially bumps it back to being the parallel minor of the major key you're starting with, often just as a way to explain mode mixture, as I believe John Williams mentioned elsewhere.
In any case, the point of this is to say that other modes have exactly this same type of inversional property. Just order them from brightest to darkest:
Lydian
Ionian
Mixolydian
Dorian
Aeolian
Phrygian
Locrian
...and connect the pairs on the opposite ends, and you'll see:
Lydian and Locrian invert to each other,
Ionian and Phrygian invert to each other,
Mixolydian and Aeolian invert to each other,
and Dorian inverts to itself!
Isn't an inverted major scale the Phrygian mode? The last two notes of the major scale is a half-step, so inverting should make the first two notes a half-step.
would love to see a what if bach played nirvana
thanks
Yes. Yes yes yes. I know what I'm working on
So… negative harmony is essentially based around the same underlying concept as modal interchange, yes? All you seem to be doing here is playing with parallel keys, much like John Lennon’s Nowhere Man chord progression (I > V > IV > I > ii > iv > I), where the fourth is eventually minor, to take E major temporarily into E minor, without counting as a full modulation.
Really enjoyed definitely can play rhythm on guitar and piano also own drums (not the best) and anyone can play bass ... However I listen to metal some its goofy I like things like nightwish or scar symmetry and gwar but ... I actually am evangelical and find myself not listening to metal as my main ... So ... I like country and fiddles, Creed ... Etc ... Five iron POD even country rap but you know everyone country loves hard rock and metal from zz top to acdc rush any of it. I like avenged 12 foot ninja and metal.
I also like musician music like you yourself play I will actually learn your trill for fun.
: )
I do play lead no problem as well ...
Peace.
Not mentioning the evil my favorite interviews with megadeth and korn are when they become evangelicals since I am that.
But much love.
Music theory you can make so many epic sounds.
And you are an inspiration because you are alive and trying.
I like obviously a lot more. I'm not sold out to metal or punk at all. I do play it and listen to it.
Not as often as country or light rock,but I mean i play music I like it all.
More of a Jesus lightworker type I do not listen to worship as music though because I like actual music.
I liked your points. I liked your trill.
You worked hard to make it cool in the end. Good on that.
Back to evil, well ... Evil?
I don't like big government.
That's the end of that then.
Evil? You mean the government ...
Malice ... Nah. Selfish as long as its me not you. Murder guns all that. Me not you. If its murder some things are rights.
Not wrongs....
Government is them unless it's me.
All that. Nonsense to me.
Mischief ... Depends on the spirit you can raise a little bit with a good attitude.
Anger ... Well anger is what we naturally have to the government who doesn't want to respect rights.
But who wants to be angry. I want to be happy. Patience long suffering. Hero.
You are a guitar hero.
Are you also a villain?
Yes.
Simply. But ..
Just saying for myself.
Maybe you aren't a guitar villain.
Maybe you are a hero.
The chords remind me of God of War 1 the background music on some of the levels. Sounds cool!!!
Hey Shred. I saw a book that's name was 4001 scales. How many do you have?
There aren’t that many scales....but when you have all scales listed in each of the 12 keys 🔑 then you get a big number
666
Can't wait for payday I've been meaning to get this bible
5:35
I could listen to this shit all day long.
Shred, an insightful delve into negative harmony, unfortunately it was something that was left out in my theory classes. May I ask where you gained this forbidden knowledge?
Isn't it obvious? You must sell your soul!
Dude this one is as delicious as WAP! Do you always construct the scale for conversion by starting on the 5th?
Also, I would like to check in with you about starting private lessons but I dont use facebook. I have your patreon and maybe can reach out that way? Thanks man I dig this one bigtime!
Does this scale have a name G, A, B, C, C#, D, E, F, F#? It's the keys of G,C, and D in one scale it has all the chords of all those scales. I'm assuming it has a name. I stumbled on this by chance just wondering if anyone knows.
But one thing I don’t get is why everyone was so “wow” when Jacob collier came up with this. I mean seriously even if I don’t understand everything, I always thought that the key of C minor is the negative twin of C major? What’s now so grand about this?
Anyway I love you Shred, you are the real mastermind here ;)
Teach me your ways
Yo Shred... Where do you reside? You need to make a bio my dude!
Did the real pie’d piper really play the pipe organ at the church I wonder,,,,by the way I am a complete novice on guitar teach myself type slow it is. Your professional ism is good.
Negarive harmony be like "Distort Distort, Large Black Hole"
6:32 that's literally me rn
Like connecting the moustache hair with the nose hairs. \m/ namaste
Isn't there something wrong in Twinkle Twinkle Minor? Shouldn't the two G's of Bar 3 be D's?
You .. one..Angel.from Devil...Bad evel Guitar.. MASTER
How much did pandora scream when you opened her box? that's cool that the diminisheds stay diminished after the flip. time to get famous flipping all the old beatles songs. i like shimmer-verb too. fwiw, i used to take polkas and bluegrass and change them to minor. it sure changed the feel of the songs. off topic: take a look at "Pavane for a dead Princess" by ravel in 1899. super sad song and he pulls it off in the key of G major.
Etude was killer.
I learned theory in college in the late 80's, then got hit by a car and forgot all of it. I have amnesia and agnosia, which means I can't recognize or make sense of it, which means I can't relearn it. I can grasp aspects of it in the sense that I sort of get how it's done, but I can't process it in terms of note names, scales, modes, etc. I still have the compositional sensibilities I developed in college in terms of how I hear things and make sense of patterns, but that's it.
I blindly compose my music, feeling around until I find something that matches the color and flavor of the emotional layers I'm trying to express. Or I hear entire riffs in my head either as a melody or a chord sequence and then figure out the fingering for it.
I don't know if you believe in the supernatural, but I believe that spirits enter me and take part in this process. Our minds overlap, I feel some experience they had in life through their perspective and identify it with my own experience, and in that moment of mental overlap, a riff forms as a sort of soundtrack expression of the emotional content of those experiences. The spirit then guides me in the creation of an entire song from it. I take the whole muse thing very literally; not in the purely mythological sense like the specific Greek goddesses, but in the sense that any spiritual communion can produce a creative outcome.
A large portion of my compositions come from that process of spirit possession.
There's other ways also. There is mirror harmony (root/tritone axsis)
Negative harmony (the in between axsis)
There's also I forget the name of it.... it where you use any axsis.
American is the best Guitar.Player..from World
I tried the link to buy your book but i cant figure it out, sorry man.
Do Holy Balls by megadeth
This is nice, but can you play fire in the sky?
3:31 ah, a classic
If we're going to talk about Olivia Rodrigo, are we going to include all blues players and singers after the turn of the 20th century as well for always using the same chord progressions and melodies from other artists?
Great ! (as always huh ?)
Top notch, watch out shredding too hard will singe beards
The Relative Minor is a gateway drug down the rabbit hole.
I *LIKE* it! Although personally I think It is too advanced for applying from my level... . 😇 ✌🏻 😅
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