The Most 80s Gun Ever: COP 357 at the Backup Gun Match
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The C.O.P. (Compact Offduty Police) .357 was designed by Robert Hillberg, patented in 1983, and manufactured by COP Inc in California. It's a stainless steel, 4-barrel, .357 Magnum derringer. It's also an awful pistol to shoot. The trigger is one of the worst I've ever felt, recoil is sharp (although much more pleasant with .38 Special ammunition), and the barrels don't really shoot to the same point of aim...which is a bit tricky to find with the sights anyway.
Naturally, this struck me as a perfect pistol to take to our local Backup Gun Match...and a perfect excuse to break out the headband and sleeveless hoodie!
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Ian looks like a background character in a biker bar that tries to attack the main protagonist with a pool queue and then gets round house kicked through a window
With a stock crashing glass sound and a Wilhelm scream.
He looks like a Mad Gear member.
_....take it! Ugh!_
I had a laugh, nice one
When does his movie get reviewed on Best of the Worst ???
Cross his path, and you're history.
Ian McCollum is...
_The Forgotten Weapon_
This belongs in a greatest hits collection of intellectual youtube comments
underrated comment
I hate how good this is
This comment wins RUclips.
The want.
80's Ian is something I didn't know I needed, until I saw it.
For real. Bad dream woke me up at 4 AM, Ian (and maybe my gf) made it all better lol
Huh,just like pictures of victorian era women flexing. Something you dont expect to appreciate until you see it.
80's Ian has got all the dope cobrays, spas' and calicos...
Hopefully 80's Ian shows up in more videos someday XD
Can we all convince him to do a kind of mini-series of doing this for each decade in the 20th century?
This gun was clearly designed to be cleared with a guitar pick
Or teeth
your suppose to punch the 5th guy and the force knocks the 4 casings out, while you round house the 6th guy wearing your Chuck Norris denim jeans.
@@stevenmike1878 as boss music plays on your behalf and the C.O.P. reloads itself with 30 rounds*
Brilliant
Or a cocaine spoon.
Gun Jesus embracing his true form.
God bless 80s gun Jesus!
Is that his 'Final Form' ?
@@cabinfever7262 no his realy from you can see at the helloween match
@@cabinfever7262 No, that would be a lovecraftian being made of guns.
Jttv Gun Jesus and flannel daddy are converging
Ian.... the sleeveless Forgotten Weapons Hoodie should have printed on it..... THE RIGHT TO BARE ARMS
Ha ha ha!
Underrated comment brother
🤣😅🤣😅
👍😁
😂😂😂
Shut up and take my money
The sights are really more like "guidelines" than actual sights.
The sights are about as ignored as the terms and conditions
They're disinclined to acquiesce to your request for a true zero
This is more of a short range "dump all 4 rounds at target" point-fire weapon than a precision "aim down the sights to get a perfectly placed shot" weapon
"Hey dudes, i´m Ian Rose from Guns and Canons....."
I'd buy that album!
... and dudettes!
@@tenchraven for a dollar!
Cannons. Canon is a totally different thing.
:-D
“ justice is blind and so is the point of impact “
“ I’m the guy they call in who’s crazy enough to pull the trigger “
“ if you need more then 4 rounds and to shoot more then 10 yards , your doing it wrong “
Ian: "I got that guy, just barely at all"
Other dude: "That would be the pelvic area"
A person somewhere: "Are you hit dude?"
Response: "He just hit me in the balls. He got me barely at all."
I have no balls; I would be fine.
80's Ian: "Do I get double points for keyholing?"
Judge: "Eh, perhaps we could arrange something. How much cocaine did you get off that guy?"
O.o
He wasn't asking Ian, he was asking the COP....
....357
Is this enough? ruclips.net/video/pFJ62vlZbls/видео.html
underrated joke
Even the Liberator pistol came with an extractor/ejector. (A piece of wooden dowel)
B- but, the 80s told me that you never have to reload!
Those legendary 15 shot Magnum revolvers that could make a car blow up
Ah yes, Uzis with infinite ammo, unless the bad guy is actually going to land a hit on the protagonist, then it jams
I suppose someone could have developeded a four round speed-loader for the COP if the thing wasn't so ridiculously inferior to a snubbie revolver it is just a novelty. Too heavy, too expensive, oddly less concealable than a snubbie, plus the extraction and accuracy problems Ian demonstrates here.
@@WalkaCrookedLine It's more of a last ditch gun, if you need to reload it you're in way too much trouble for it to get you out of...
I love when Ian takes his forgotten weapons to matches
Reloading? Thats a problem for someone that doesn't have enough guns on him.
In stage 3 when the guy said "cue the jeopardy theme please" it actually started playing in my head.
Someone please New York reload in a gun match and post it on RUclips.
Ok Blackbeard
@Tropic Lightning i dont think i couldve hoped for a better response 😂
@Tropic Lightning yes, i know. Thats why i mentioned him
That moment when the cowboy with the percussion cap revolver seems like the far, far better choice. And is also probably faster to reload. (See Inrange)
"Aaaw. Your times up.... But you got a good time, though." 10/10 instructor.
"but you had a good time though" as in, fun...
Imagine the commercial slogan for this: *"The COP 357 - because you never know where your point of aim is"*
BTW: the FW-commercial break totally lacked VHS-filter XD
This gun is 1980s in one weapon. Wild, unpredictable, excessive, ridiculous...
"Dude the COP .357 can shoot all four barrels at once !"
"Hey did you know they invented a three barreled .44 magnum SMG ?"
"They now have plasma ammo that is the size of toy gun cap and hits like a 20mm cannon."
"That new P7 by H&K is full auto ... rant, rant ..."
"Did you see that new movie Alien Nation ? I will buy one of those Casulls because it's the most powerful gun ever !"
"The Baretta is more powerful than a Desert Eagle ! Mel Gibson said so in an interview !"
Ah the 80s when we kids could bullshit each other to death ...
"10mm is the cartridge of the future. The Bren Ten is going to be a huge hit."
@@AshleyPomeroy Bren Ten looked like a cool pistol in my opinion, sadly (as cited on wikipedia) it was sold in a very shitty way with non working or missing magazines and people avoided to buy it at some point. too bad
I remember being a kid in the early 90's just making shit up that sounded like it could happen, everyone did it then too. XD
I'm sure kids still do it... but with how ubiquitous the interwebs is now I imagine it backfires a lot.
Good times...
My older brother who was born in the eighties fed all kinds of those lines of garbage up until I was about six years old. One time just to test him (I kind of started catching on) I asked him what a pipe wrench was for. His answer: well I can't really say it here but I knew it had to be wrong in a lot of ways. "Good" conversations though. I still remember a few of them.
"Cue the Jeopardy theme song"
You know you're having an interesting day when the RSO joins in on the jokes.
i'm about to make it happen
I actually went and got the theme in another tab and it was perfect.
There was a guy humming it in the background
@@eazy8579 I started as soon as the guy said to, but time was called halfway thru the song...😅
A guy asked me for a cig in front of walmart the other day looked exactly like ian in this video
That was probably me
It was Ian checking up on you.
See, RUclips money isn't what it used to be.
Gun jesus works in mysterious ways.
I am guessing he was coked out of his mind just like Ian.
My Dad actually carried one of these in an ankle rig when he was a sheriff's deputy back in the early 80's. 9-10 year old me had a hell of a time with the trigger.
The biceps curl sequence suggests a seamless line extension: "Forgettable Guns."
Really sends me back to John Browning 3:16, "I am the way and the light, except occasionally the light is muzzle flash."
You forgot to add some 80s montage music when you were reloading for the true 80s feel
With a shot of him putting his huge combat knife into the sheath, taping grenades to his leg etc. Camo stick to the face, explosive arrows etc.
i bet thats to avoid a copyright strike :(
Reloading? Pshah, dude, in the 1980s no one ever reloaded. All the clips were like 10000% bigger back then. Also you could fire exploding rockets from any type of gun.
I think Ian's problem here was that he didn't wear a denim vest. Those are always enchanted with "infinite ammo".
@@FlymanMS And one shot repeated three times from different angles.
Yea agree i'm hearing miami vice music.
I almost bought one of those back in the 80s when I was a cop, but instead settled on a High Standard over/under .22 Magnum derringer, now that was a sweet little shooter, you could hit easily on the 25 yard targets, in fact my partner and I worked out courses sort of like the ones you shoot now for our PD, and just for shits and giggles we would do a course where we used our S&W 66's for six rounds, drop the revolver, grab the little High Standard and fire the 2 rounds as if we needed it to finish off a gun fight. It was a fun little gun, you should get one for your show, they were a blast to say the least, another gun I wish I had hung on to, but oh well.
My Dad had one,(22WMR). And I call bullsh.t. I shot it many times, and a coffee can at 5-7 yards was the limit.
I am impressed you can pull that 95 pound trigger with one hand!
Clearly, you missed the clip of Ian pumping serious iron LOL
@@eliasgordon4321 As was the style of the 80s
Not only is it heavy, it's also looooong...
@@dr.burtgummerfan439 well someone has gotta do it "Thats what SHE said"
I'll show myself out now....
You know they LOVE seeing Ian roll up to these matches 😂
"Aw hell. What's he bringing this time?"
The Scout called. He said that he wants his pistol back.
Scout makes it seem like empty casings just pop out of 4-barreled pistols, but I never realized how hard it would be to rip them out of a real one. Presumably they expand and contract a little due to the heat, which could really lodge them in there. I'm still not sure if there are any springs or other ejecting mechanism in the one Ian fires.
@@holidaypenguin i think its just quality of manufacturing, I can't think of any additional problems that apply to derriger ejection over revolver ejection.
@chris younts
Or a plug with four pins sticking off of it that you run up the barrel when its open and maybe give a gentle tap. In theory that should dislodge them.
@@isaiahcampbell488 no extra points for re inventing the single action army ejector rod
@@CommodoreFluffy Perhaps one should add a thumbscrew to the ejection rod to keep it in place when not in use like the Rast and Gasser? Or would keeping a cleaning rod in the holster like the Reichsrevolver be a better solution? Ian Could have used the latter solution in the match ad-hoc! :)
“Perhaps it’s best we’re no longer in the 80’s”. Yet Karl did better with a gun made in the 60’s. The 1860’s!!!!!
@@Muster_Muckee_II I mean, self loading flintlocks did exist.
@@Muster_Muckee_II Yeah, that was the common way. Those rotating magazine wonders were a tad dangerous.
@@Muster_Muckee_II Preferably dressed as a pirate with a cutlass strapped on you for when you miss half those shots and basically turn the pistols into bludgeoning weapons. The cutlass is your back up weapon lol.
I need no channel youtube! They did?
So the first outing of Bret Cobray, Real Ladies Home Companion was a resounding success, except it needed more hip fired MACs and guitar synth soundtrack
Check out "Young Warriors" from 1983. The mulleted, camo-headbanded frat boy protagonist stops a liquor store robbery by hip firing his Uzi everywhere for 30 seconds until he runs out of ammo (very realistic, as the Uzi had a 300 round mag), then discovers that the robbers he just turned into ground beef were teenage girls with toy guns. Then he immediately and inexplicably goes to a hooker so the film can have it's obligatory 80s titty scene. Non-stop synthesizer noodling soundtrack.
@@TheRealColBosch ruclips.net/video/s26mbKWTTL8/видео.html
@@LUCNUKEM ruclips.net/video/s26mbKWTTL8/видео.html timestamp. 1:21:14 if you need it
That has to be the official name for the costume, perfect.
@@M-1996A1 That was the winning name Rock Island Auctions came up with on Instagram when Ian posted the thumbnail a couple of days ago, I can't take the credit, it belongs to RIA.
The sad part is that I kind of wanted one of these back in the eighties. Sanity must have prevailed; that or my perpetually empty billfold.
"Excuse me while I reload"
@XiphiasX10A If you needed 1 shot out of this thing you are better off just throwing it.
It's better than throwing the bullets by hand.
@XiphiasX10A 5th shot: YEET!
Just use it for a knuckle duster!
@@jeffreyroot6300 I think Ian's already reviewed something like that...
Lost 80s points for not having a mini 14 with folding stock.
And a Bren Ten.
Or tech 22
Full nickel, of course!
...And Calico m950 pistol
and a Smith & Wesson full metal double-stacked autoloader, like S&W 659
I was half expecting to see Macaulay Culkin take Ron Jeremy hostage.
Or maybe the other way around... ;)
No,no that was Michael Jackson taking Macaulay Culkin hostage.
You have been watching way too much Daddy Garand videos
That gun was used in the opening of "Blade Runner" when Leon (replicant) shoots Holden (cop giving test).
Also used in matrix reloaded. Loaded with silver bullets.
The Forgotten Weapons sleeveless hoodie I didn't know I needed.
That gun was made to jam into someones belly and start squeezing.
Wouldn't a knife have the same effective range?
@@Skyhawk1998 Ooh. Knife. Yuck.
Well yeah, it's a cop gun.
@@Hansengineering yeah, seems like it was made to be a plant
@@isaackarjala7916 Way WAY too obscure and expensive to ever be a plant.
All these memes will be lost, like tears in rain
🕊️
"Describe in single words only the good things that come into your mind about your mother"
"My mother?"
"Yeah"
"Let me tell you about my mother"
"Cue the Jeopardy theme please" 🤣🤣🤣
Poor 80s Ian.
On the extraction, one of the old officer I knew back in the late 1980's had one of these, he made a four dowel rod punch to use. It lined up with the barrels and he could use it to push the spent cases out of the weapon in one push. It was a weapon that he refused to carry. Only used at the range.
I don't always watch gun matches. But when I do, there's either a cool costume or a gun completely not suitable for the match. Here we have both, 5/5.
@4:51
🥲I have never heard a nicer range officer. What a sweet man. Someone give him a hug :c
This is meme material
S tier sauce
Everything Ian has fun with is meme material
ah, i see. you're a man of culture as well.
Meme machine, meme machine....
More like meme fuel⛽️ 🔥
Folks from north Saskatchewan: "This guy has a really up-to-date fashion sense."
I like how serious you can be for other videos, but be so silly for videos like this one. Perfectly balanced👌🏽👌🏽
Now we need a video of 80s Ian shooting an Uzi or Mac from the hip with 80s action music playing
Looks like one of the street toughs from my favorite old NES game, River City Ransom.
Or Double Dragon.
Kind of fun to see these old belly guns shown for what they were. I can recall being a young cop thinking that this gun would make a great backup or off duty weapon. Now that I see how well they don't work, I am glad I stuck to my Colt Trooper MIII till I got my M1911A1. The trooper failed me at the police Academy when the trigger actually broke where the pin held it in the frame and locked up during a training session at the range. I had to send it to a Colt Certified smith, who did a wonderful job of putting a new trigger in, he also threw in a very nice trigger job on the revolver and made a great shooter out of it for me. I carried it for a very long time till a fellow talked me out of it. I had it fixed with Pacmeyer Rubber grips and carried speed loaders for the weapon on duty. Later in life I came up with a nice .38 special Dimond Back by Colt and learned what a real SMOOOOOth trigger pull was all about. Wish I had that little gun back again, I can't even recall who talked me out of her.
How long is that trigger pull?
Ian: Yes.
A trigger pull you could set an egg timer to.
That doesn't even make sense.
And about 25 lbs from the look of it.
About two feet behind the pistol.
@@hannibalharkonnen7612 Ironically, the gun is accurate out to about two feet.
Imagine being a break action firearm without an automatic extractor
So cinema got 80's wonder woman while we got 80's gun jesus.
I see this as a win.
I think this might be my favourite video of Ian. The channel as a whole is awesome, but here we see Ian having fun, it made me smile 😃
*Gun Jesus in a 70's outfit*
Gun Jesus: This isn't even my final form.
booooo
GET OFF THE STAGE
" You think this is some kinda costume ? This is a way of life !"
4:46 Ian lets out a frustrated Schwarzenegger "Come on."
Someone has to replace all spoken during stages with one liners from 80's action movies.
The 97 dislikes are of the guys who still wear bandanna’s, fingerless gloves and sleeveless jackets.
But, I didn't dislike the video.
Still?
Bandanas - all summer long. Also, open sleeveless jackets and vests are (insert guitar riff solo) excellent for concealed carry.
@@pteppig oh my, guitars. I feel old already.
@@KurwaRomek girls love guitars. Doesn't matter if its 1720 or 2020
I remember this all over Guns and Ammo back then.
Yep pos then as well . Still prefer a good old fashioned lady's smith&Wesson stud nose loaded with wad cutters
Stub
@@TheRealColBosch lol what ever teacher you get the point take a chill pill and a shot . Maybe get laid 😁
Was David leaving his magazines out again?
@@TheRealColBosch His name IS Spliff bongwater, after all. Expect only the most intelligent and cultured discourse from this fellow.
These BUG match videos area great. They supplement the regular format videos perfectly. It shows why a firearm that might seem not so bad at first turned out to be a forgotten weapon. Or why a particular service weapon was very successful for its time.
This opening reminded me so much of AlphaOmegaSin. Totally different kind of content creator but in those few seconds you were practically his twin.
"Perhaps it is best that we are no longer in the 80's"
BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!!
You can tell Ian has dressed like this before.
Ian first, I love these back up gun matches. Second, please don't ever grow up. You constantly make me smile when smiles are few and far between. Thanx
Just by Ian's look this gonna be good :D
Ian looks like 80's guy without sunglass and bandana anyway :D
Fr as soon as i saw that thumbnail i knew this was going to be a good video
Lmao people thought 💭 that about all sorts of shit in the 80’s .... cocaine for example !!!! 😂
I love these videos! Ian is such a good sport about things and has a great sense of humor.
In my mind, 80's Ian will always be the real Ian
That ready position at 4:17 was beyond righteous! Not a low-ready, can we call it the 'cool-ready' or the 'rad-ready'?
Now THAT'S entertainment...
I guess as a cop, if that was my backup gun and I didn't need to aim because the perp was only 3 feet away from me, it would work, but that's about it.
That's what I was thinking, if you're engaging at knife fighting range then the inaccuracy probably won't make a difference. On the other hand the frequent failure to fire at all probably would...
good for you dogkiller
That's pretty much the point of it. My Dad always said if he had to go for the ankle rig it was probably already too late for him and the perp both.
+21 points per stage for staying in character.
This is becoming performance art .... 🤣
*Tropic Thunder*
"You NEVER go full 80's"
COP 357 : Carry anOther Pistol 357
Thank you Ian for being the honey badger of shooting competitions!
You should have brought a universal unloading stick.
That was my first thought, but these matches have very strict rules about flagging, and I bet using a UUS would have resulted in a DQ.
If not, though, then (while planning for the match) he should have glued 4 dowel rods at the right spots in a pocket-sized block of wood so that he could just drop it down the muzzle and punch out all 4 cases at once. Of course, literally everything about this gun is horrible, so I don't really see the point in doing all that work to mildly improve one minor aspect.
Re-watching this caricature, I am reminded of when Ian did a "90's gangster" but with an smg (I think it was a Mac-11, or a Tec-9 or something else very just before 1994). Anyway, for all of the gravitas, and remarkable quality this channel brings us, I do enjoy seeing Ian's sense of humor sprinkled in (like the Huot conversion infomercial). Given his vast collection of hats, and other historical garb, maybe a brief parody to the effect of "This decade in firearms" would be a fun occasional aside?
The gangsta Ian was for the weird huge 9mm Skorpion clone iirc
My favorite videos of Ian's are when he lets his hair down, so to speak.
Everyone: "80's joke or reference"
My brain:"yeah the shot stop sucks use the force-a-nature instead"
Nah, stock is better most of the time anyways
@@mr.bobcyndaquil4214 the extra jump you get with the force-a-nature us pretty good.
My Dad actually carried one of those, off duty back in the day. I wish I still had it.
Hopefully he never had to use it because that thing looked unwieldy. Still would be cool to have
@@NoTimeAllTime luckily he didn't. He was a gadget guy and always bought the cool new thing. Luckily the 70s and 80s had a lot of cool weird stuff
@AndrewMichaels I've still got mine! :)
Movie gun trivia...
This was the gun used in the opening scene in Bladerunner by the Leon character in the scene where he shoots his interviewer.
That worked so well they should build a double 1911 and name it the 2011.
@@jonasthemovie I can never forget Jerry Miculek dual wielding those things.
Sometimes I wonder who's having more fun in these matches, Ian doing his goofy themes or the time-keeper/safety-officer witnessing it happen.
COP .357: The Howdah pistol of the 1980s
Only even less usable
Ian, I can speak to everyone else but I'm loving the themed matches. They were the best part of Red October.
This is such a great video, thank you for putting a smile on my face Ian
4- .357 laser bore sights and a dark and smokey room would both add to the 80's factor, and the hilarity.
"THE CREAM OF THE CROP WILL RISE UP TO THE TOP!"
I never shoot a thing cause I'm using a cop!!!
The next Battlefield should have Ian's yell of frustration at 4:23 as an easter egg.
The perfect backup gun to your Bren 10
@chris younts You're only using the COP because you had to throw a the Ten at them in the first place.
Wasn't Sonny Crockett's BUG a Detonics Combat Master .45?
@@billd66 Typical TV, why did they have to spoil it by giving him something that works?
you know, i thought the sleeveless hoodie was a bad idea but i think im sold now.
Waiting to hear, "You boys like Mexico?!"
Littering and, littering and..................
I really enjoyed this, Ian. Thank you.
With the whole 80's theme all I could think about was the line from the Dire Straits song that goes, " Yeah buddy, that his own hair!"
I bought the whole album just for that one song.. was disappointed. They're all good songs though, just none were really like 'Money for nothing'
This video was worth it just seeing Ian in a bandana and aviators. Never change my man!
I can totally see Ian in "Miami Vice" :D
I was just looking at these again yesterday. Ian always knows what I'm into at the moment.
“It’s the Eighties! Do a lot of coke and vote for Ronald Reagan!”
(Just don't so much coke you get the two confused)
Hobgoblins, hobgoblins, what do you do with those hobgoblins? They're over here, they're over there, those darn hobgoblins are everywhere! Yay! Woo!
It’s funny cause thanks to Reagan California has crap gun laws
Trying to explain almost everything from that era.
70's: Cocaine
80's: More and better cocaine.
The 80's never ended! Neocon forever!11!!
I like the silliness of the themed matches. please do more.
We need more content like this. I got a good laugh.
My old LT has one of these. His mother bought it for him when he was a rookie with Oakland PD. She had seen an advertisement for it. He never carried it but it made an interesting conversation piece
Radical Dude! You have a great attitude Ian, having fun and learning stuff! Thanks for posting 👍🏼
That was featured in the original Bladerunner during the interview scene. Leon used it to end the interrogation.