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Комментарии • 171

  • @throwdown515
    @throwdown515 Год назад +52

    I love this mini-doc. I can’t imagine how much time it took to storyboard, find, and edit these clips to tell your story. But you did so masterfully. Loved every minute!

    • @EpicLightMedia
      @EpicLightMedia  Год назад +16

      Thanks so much!!!! It did take at least 40 hours of work to make this.

  • @drmatthewhorkey
    @drmatthewhorkey Год назад +16

    This was my FAVORITE video from you in a long time... The deeper I get into RUclips the more respect I have for cinema and filmmakers. I also love how I can take advanced techniques and apply them to simple videos for VERY good results. Because of a past video you did on continuity, it's something that I really want to focus on, even for my talking head videos. Thanks again.

  • @Thesupermanning
    @Thesupermanning Год назад +48

    George Lucas: “Forget the actors, forget the story, it’s all about movement” 😂. This answers so many questions I had about the Star Wars prequels.

    • @EpicLightMedia
      @EpicLightMedia  Год назад +21

      It’s all about jar jar

    • @morucek
      @morucek Год назад +2

      @The Supermanning same here. exactly my thoughts

    • @TelekinesisStudios
      @TelekinesisStudios Год назад +1

      Yeah... about that.

    • @thomasmanning9111
      @thomasmanning9111 Год назад

      George Lucas doesn’t take himself too seriously like other filmmakers.

  • @MK-Creator
    @MK-Creator Год назад +6

    Sometimes you watch something you soon will forget that you ever watched. Rarely you will watch something you will never forget.
    This video was nothing else but Epic, and it will never be forgotten by me.
    Thank you so much for sharing this.
    ❤️

    • @EpicLightMedia
      @EpicLightMedia  Год назад +1

      Thanks so much!!!!!

    • @ActorswithStrings
      @ActorswithStrings Год назад +3

      I second everything you said but sadly I will forget the best points when I go and try to make my own films

    • @philgray1023
      @philgray1023 Год назад +1

      I remember the first movie I saw at a cinema. It wasn't age appropriate for me but my older sister who took me clearly thought it was. I had nightmares for years. I don't recommend Atlantis the Lost Continent as their first cinema experience for 5 year olds. There again we only had a massive 18 inch black and white TV back in 1961.

  • @AlexKovshovik
    @AlexKovshovik Год назад +7

    Holy shit, I want to re-watch all these movies now. This is so beautiful, I cried a little.

  • @twentytwentyfilmsltd.790
    @twentytwentyfilmsltd.790 Год назад +5

    Great work. This is why the kuleshov effect is so important, as it shows how an actors performance can completely be altered through the simple effect of cutting. Maybe more importantly though, what the kuleshov effect proves is that one plus one doesn’t equal two. That when the images are edited they create a third meaning that didn’t exist within the images on their own. In this instance that Hitchcock was a dirty old man 😂. Thanks for all the hard work you put into these vids, we’ve learnt a bunch from your channel.

  • @MichaelSavidgeStoryteller
    @MichaelSavidgeStoryteller Год назад +3

    This video reminds me of the following quote from Guillermo del Toro (this was when the Academy decided not to air portions of the Oscars):
    "I would not presume to suggest what categories to cut during the Oscars show but - Cinematography and Editing are at the very heart of our craft. They are not inherited from a theatrical tradition or a literary tradition: they are cinema itself.”
    Great job with this one, thoroughly enjoyed it!!

    • @EpicLightMedia
      @EpicLightMedia  Год назад +1

      Oh wow!! That would have been nice to include in the video!!

  • @lonewalkerproductions
    @lonewalkerproductions Год назад +1

    What a beautiful video man. One of those commentaries that help keep us going

  • @StupidKids
    @StupidKids Год назад +4

    Your videos are the best!!!

  • @joshuatatro4503
    @joshuatatro4503 Год назад +1

    In addition to being a good summation of what makes cinema a real artform, it's also probably the best example of why most youtubers have no clue when they post a throwaway video about making your content look/feel "cinematic." It's almost cringeworthy how often people say it or say what they filmed/edited is cinematic, and I always find myself thinking "did I miss a clever cut? A well-lit scene? A well-framed back-and-forth? A good lens choice? Anything actually cinematic?" What they usually mean is "I used an anamorphic lens or slow-mo and split-toned the footage teal/orange." You know -- **cinema*.* Bothers me almost as much as when people call something "aesthetic," deprived of any commitment to an artistic direction, style, etc., when what they really mean is "I think that looks nice, but I don't know why."
    In any case, I appreciate this a lot. Hopefully plenty of people (or even just the right people) see it.

  • @cameronvanhooft
    @cameronvanhooft Год назад +2

    Not been Subscribed for over 6 months, you're welcome

  • @sotocine99
    @sotocine99 Год назад +1

    The artist makes it art. That's it.

  • @EpicLightMedia
    @EpicLightMedia  Год назад +18

    After watching this video people are going to think about exceptions like Birdman or 1917. My response is simple. I don't think those are "movies". They are something different... very good art.. but not pure cinema.

    • @LocksleyLennoxfilms
      @LocksleyLennoxfilms Год назад +4

      Make more video essays, please. You can be better than most filmmaking video essay channels because you actually film too. Not just sit behind your computer shouting your opinions.

    • @JoshChappell
      @JoshChappell Год назад +5

      That’s an interesting point you bring up. I think that one of the most creative elements that goes into a film is the editing. I think of movies like Jaws, The Conversation, or the First Star Wars movie that were saved in the edit. The cuts told the stories better than the dialogue or even the story itself sometimes.
      Movies like 1917 do have cuts in them albeit they are not obvious but the editor still has to make a creative choice based on how good the performances were from one threaded cut to the next.

    • @RevolutionX42
      @RevolutionX42 Год назад

      @@JoshChappell You know, i think it all has to do with time and rythm, even in birdman we see specific actions taking place at specific moments, even in all the other movies.
      Just like you would have a musician playing a master piece, or a dj making that masterpiece another masterpiece, it all comes down to using time to make you feel, you.
      in my opinion, Cuts, are as everything thats part of the film, just a another (important of course) piece of the puzzle.
      You only know something until you see it moving, and you need time for that. i think thats why film is amazing, because it gathers everything we got to create a moment you can feel.

    • @60p
      @60p Год назад +1

      I never understood Birdman to this day. I don't consider it art or cinema as well.

    • @joshuatatro4503
      @joshuatatro4503 Год назад

      @@JoshChappell I think it's still different in the sense that whatever cuts have been in something like 1917 were done either to a) minimize/erase the audience's perception of a cut, thereby keeping the illusion of a continuous take, or b) are done purely for technical reasons (given that filming 90+ mins with interspersed practical/special effects simply isn't possible). Which is just to say, I think it's the intention that counts, and this example diverges from every other piece of cinema where the storyboard through to final editing/production intends for cuts to have weight in the storytelling process, with jumps to different angles, fields of view, levels of background separation, lighting, etc., which in turn accomplishes everything from demonstrating elapsed time to shifting perspective/voice from one character to another. None of that happens in 1917, and so I think it does occupy this weird place between theater, film, and almost like a recorded out of body first-person experience.

  • @gillesmatheronpro
    @gillesmatheronpro Год назад +1

    Cinématographe (from ancien greek "kínēma", meaning "movement", and "gráphein", meaning "writing") is the patented brand of a system invented in 1895 by French engineer and industry major entrepreneur Louis Lumière (which, as a trick of destiny, means "Louis Light") and Jules Carpentier, one of his many engineers.
    Auguste, Louis' older brother, often associated to the Cinématographe invention, had a try at creating a similar machinery but eventually failed, then let Louis take care of developping the concept. To the success we now can appreciate.
    A few bits of History never hurt.

  • @danielakachi3666
    @danielakachi3666 Год назад +1

    4:50 the gun shot matching the soundtrack is fire!!!

    • @EpicLightMedia
      @EpicLightMedia  Год назад +1

      Thanks!!!! Took me forever to get the timing right

  • @JonasBecker
    @JonasBecker Год назад +5

    I love the lighting and overall bts tutorials of you guys, but exploring the history of why we actually do all this is just as amazing to watch! Also: This thing must've been a nightmare to edit together, good job!

    • @EpicLightMedia
      @EpicLightMedia  Год назад

      Thanks!!! Yeah it took forever to put this together right

  • @ShiningStarStudios
    @ShiningStarStudios Год назад +1

    Hahahahha - I love your little disclaimer on us photographers!!!! That is hilarious!

  • @WhySteve
    @WhySteve Год назад +1

    I started with music and now I'm trying to become a film maker, because I realized this exact thing, film is the collaboration of all the art forms I want to do.

  • @Digital.Done.Right.
    @Digital.Done.Right. Год назад

    You tell a wonderful story. Thank you.

  • @thidnascimento
    @thidnascimento Год назад

    Another masterpiece from you guys, love the channel!

  • @brendanclark.8059
    @brendanclark.8059 Год назад

    Excellent work, as always! Really enjoyed that.

  • @maxschoeber
    @maxschoeber Год назад +1

    This might be the best video I’ve seen on RUclips insane storytelling 👏🙏

  • @bj0ernaa
    @bj0ernaa Год назад

    This was so inspirational! Love it

  • @HeISeNBeRg_____
    @HeISeNBeRg_____ Год назад

    I did a Power Point presentation in my class last week about the importance of 'Cinematography' in storytelling. Your videos inspired me a lot. Thank you for making amazing content. Cheers🙌

  • @samueljoshua
    @samueljoshua Год назад

    Beautifully done

  • @merveilleux_mtl
    @merveilleux_mtl Год назад +1

    Wow epic as always!

  • @kedavis
    @kedavis Год назад

    Changes my perspective of cinema. Excellent video!

  • @anamericanentrepreneur
    @anamericanentrepreneur Год назад

    Great insight! Keep up the amazing work! 😁

  • @scott_the_dreamer
    @scott_the_dreamer Год назад

    Legendary as always

  • @Maddox_Dixon
    @Maddox_Dixon Год назад +3

    I love your videos!!!

  • @karliemorris7318
    @karliemorris7318 Год назад +1

    thank you for this

  • @AJ_UK_LIVE
    @AJ_UK_LIVE Год назад +3

    Great video, as always. Whilst I agree with your sentiment, sadly I do not see much of this in modern Hollywood. I have practically stopped watching films altogether over the last few years. I have found myself gravitating towards short films instead, which are full of interesting stories and ideas, as opposed to 'Generic Sequel 5'.

  • @DethronerX
    @DethronerX Год назад

    Very cool essay! Thanks

  • @profundus8946
    @profundus8946 Год назад

    Gotta say, the "Don't subscribe" closer is pretty brilliant.

  • @NineSevenPictures
    @NineSevenPictures Год назад

    I like this kind of essay 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾

  • @DenysVasyliev
    @DenysVasyliev Год назад

    Like this, thanks. So simply and so complex.

  • @Growler1660
    @Growler1660 Год назад +1

    Opening scene of The Player by Robert Altman is genius choreography with dialogue and camera movement to introduce characters. No cuts for over seven minutes. This is an exception to the rule of cuts, but the style helps set up the overall tone of the movie. A cut should help tell the story.

  • @storybabble
    @storybabble Год назад

    Well done guys.

  • @lucaraimondo5967
    @lucaraimondo5967 Год назад

    Great video!

  • @philm0graphy
    @philm0graphy Год назад +1

    Now that I think about it, cinema is every art form combined besides painting

    • @EpicLightMedia
      @EpicLightMedia  Год назад

      Matte painters work on movies

    • @philm0graphy
      @philm0graphy Год назад

      @@EpicLightMedia oh true, and hand animation and stuff (also I commented this before the part where you mention painting as composition, and that actually makes a lot of sense)

  • @TonyRush21
    @TonyRush21 Год назад

    I love this mini-doc. It is not anything new to me, but the perspective of the presentation makes it so very interesting it's as if all this is being presented for the first time. At first, I actually scoffed at it saying, "yeah yeah, same old same old just to attract viewers," but I decided to stick it and I must confess, I was enthralled. Excellent work!

  • @prottentogo
    @prottentogo Год назад +4

    I consider music as the highest of all art forms. It's also collaborative in it's nature (if you wanna consider that as important) and it has the most emotional impact on us. Think about it. You can hear music on it's own and be totally immerse by it, but you have a hard time feeling a movie without music. Also, not having the visuals being delivered to you while listening to a song leaves room for your own imagination which sparkles a whole different area in your brain, just like literature.

    • @myvideobuffet5398
      @myvideobuffet5398 Год назад

      This is true. Audio is equally as, if not more, important as the visual in a video or film.

    • @mrpix3l_colorist
      @mrpix3l_colorist Год назад +1

      It depends... If you are looking for the simplest and individual way of art, music, can be the highest, or maybe a paint, or a photography, or maybe something architecturally beautiful.
      But movies have images, music, art department, acting, etc, is al combined.
      You can say the same about a good video game, because it also have music, art, acting art(in some games)etc... And also have something other art forms doesn't have, video games are interactive.
      That doesn't mean is the best or the highest form of art, and I dont know what makes an art to be in a better position than other form of art.

    • @TonyRush21
      @TonyRush21 Год назад

      @@mrpix3l_colorist To each his own. We wont always see eye to eye because of personality, charecteristics, choice, etc.

  • @herlambangtanosefren2350
    @herlambangtanosefren2350 Год назад

    Great video

  • @Ed-davies
    @Ed-davies Год назад +1

    Epic!

  • @jamesphilip6737
    @jamesphilip6737 Год назад

    A very entertaining and informative video. I found it interesting that you chose mostly non CGI film clips. It makes one wonder how films with heavy computer generated effects have changed how we view and interpret movies nowadays.

  • @einfachsvenreview
    @einfachsvenreview Год назад +1

    This is a Masterpiece ❤

  • @ShashiPuri
    @ShashiPuri Год назад +2

    Nowadays we have scripts and dialog specifically written for a variety of viewership which often leads to a simplified or shall we say, cookie cutter formula stories to make the movies perform better internationally.
    I agree that strategically located cuts and/or camera movements aide in conveying a cohesive narrative not to mention all the computer magic or whatever Christopher Nolan vibes to with his elaborate on set rigs of engineering marvels.
    There are still movies that portray the desires of our fanciful thoughts; that make us question about the roads not taken or words kept secret due to the dread of rejection.
    I am yet mostly underwhelmed by the current level of commercial 'cinema'. There are 30 second advertisements that tell a story better. I know people have to make money and I don't oppose that. But when a majority of heroes are just there to do a backflip and snap the other guy's neck, it cheapens the experience; no matter the budget.
    While being able to afford the bleeding-edge means of story telling, cinema is now being surpassed by short and long form videos in social media in narrative building.
    Maybe I'm just a nerd who lapped up a lot of epic legends with lore that made an entire universe around itself and made me lose deep withing. And I'm not the intended viewer for the modern movies.
    This video told the story of using moving images to tell a story. I've been a long time subscriber and I know that you even place lights to give a visual narrative of where the subject with respect to the time and space of the story being told. Also the one I watched before this; where you ran around after a horse with a camera before having to give it up as a bad job. And yet that video told the story effectively! This edutainment (dare I use the word) is better for me.
    Thanks for your videos :)

  • @TelekinesisStudios
    @TelekinesisStudios Год назад +1

    LOVE this video. I'm upset you did it first though!

  • @illius85
    @illius85 Год назад

    this film is a milestone 👏

  • @carlosjavier7293
    @carlosjavier7293 Год назад

    Perfect

  • @TheCallejo980
    @TheCallejo980 Год назад

    The silent narrator is just point of view, has been discussed in cinema for a while :) love you

    • @EpicLightMedia
      @EpicLightMedia  Год назад +1

      Silent narrator sounds cool and mysterious though

    • @TheCallejo980
      @TheCallejo980 Год назад

      @@EpicLightMedia very mysterious

  • @WickedMo13
    @WickedMo13 Год назад +1

    That Laurence of Arabia cut was unreal because it was one of the greatest "Match Cuts" ever, layered with symbolic meaning between the two frames. Also, Hitchcock plagiarized that idea from Kulshov lol it's literally called the Kuleshov effect

  • @higherentertainment2343
    @higherentertainment2343 Год назад

    I have to agree. I believe cinema is the highest form of art. Music is the purest, but cinema is the highest. The sheer scope and scale of a film, the amount of collaborators all working to bring to life one vision. The lighting, camera/lens choice, sound, music, acting, set/costume designs, extras, sfx…. It’s the greatest! Cinema really is THE BEST!! Thank you Epic Light Media, you guys rock 🙌🙏❤️

  • @nobodyname
    @nobodyname Год назад

    amazing video, loved it! weird question but at 2:02 you say "when cinema first began, it was a subcategory of theater", i also recently heard that somewhere and i'm going crazy trying to remember where, if it was a studio binder video or a book i'm reading, i can't for the life of me remember where i recently heard that, wondering if you remember where you heard it?

  • @philpritchard5173
    @philpritchard5173 Год назад

    Nice!

  • @benjamincorteslyon6777
    @benjamincorteslyon6777 Год назад

    Where did you get from that Deakins interview?

  • @TravisGrenier
    @TravisGrenier Год назад

    Nice

  • @mikewalker2590
    @mikewalker2590 Год назад

    MILLION DOLLAR CONTENT

  • @themichaelgraeme
    @themichaelgraeme Год назад +1

    First time watching I learned nothing. I was too busy trying to see how many movies I knew from the scene or shot being shown.
    I'll listen to it this time :)

  • @benediktandxenia
    @benediktandxenia Год назад

    Very inspiring! Thank you for this piece and I won't subscribe for sure.

  • @MxXAnthony143Rmx
    @MxXAnthony143Rmx Год назад

    I would say some videogames are using all the steps of film making it and taking a step higher with the fact that you get to be the actor in dynamic movie. Videogames with time will become a medium that will surpass movies.

  • @ukaszrumak7114
    @ukaszrumak7114 Год назад +1

    I love this film so much. One question what is 3:07 song?

  • @Wordsman
    @Wordsman Год назад +3

    I believe animation and video games are both branches of the cinema artform, assuming we're sticking with the list you used at the beginning. Additionally, animation and video games grant even more unique advantages over even film! Let me explain.
    Cinema's unique advantage over other artforms is not the motion but the editing techniques (as you've explained in this video). As young as cinema is, animation and video games are both even younger artforms. People often talk about the how beautiful a good camera movement is, but how much more beautiful could the same thing be if literally every frame is a painting? The answer, as obvious as it sounds, is animation. Take every advantage film/live action filmmaking has and grant it even more expressive and artistic freedom. This is what animation has over film.
    Unfortunately, if you've only grown up on disney and pixar movies then you haven't had the joy of experiencing the potential of animation, because Japan is the one that has invested in perfecting the animation artform. In the west, the best examples of great animation are either things like the Lion King, Avatar the Last Airbender, or Toy Story, or you would think of more recent releases like Into the Spiderverse, Castlevania or Arcane. While all of these are great, western audiences are still conditioned to think that animation as an artform is somehow lesser than live action film.
    While the Marvel Cinematic Universe is celebrated for its CGI, super hero action, and the ability to distill so much lore into such a tight package, anime franchises like Fate and A Certain Magical Index have existed and been expanding for years. You thought the Matrix was trippy and philosophical? Ghost in the Shell was the direct inspiration for Matrix, plus you have Psycho-Pass, Stein's Gate and Evangelion off the top of my head. Saiki-K and Nichijou provide better comedy even for people who don't understand Japanese culture in many cases. Is there a live action TV show with a more powerful, brutal and winding story than Attack on Titan? What about the OST? For every Schindler's List, there's a Violet Evergarden and a Your Name.
    As for video games, this is the youngest artform by far. I recommend watching Jacob Geller's videos for looking into artful video game discourse. The thing that makes video games arguably the most unique artform to exist is agency. The audience, the viewer, is in control of what happens. In the movie Se7en, you the audience don't get to choose to look in the box. In a video game, not only do you get to choose whether to look in the box, but you also get to pull the trigger to shoot the bad guy. The Green Mile can't have the audience pull the lever to execute the poor man. But video games can.
    I think the argument can be made quite well that due to agency as a factor, video games even deserve to by placed alongside the original 8 you mentioned before. For now, they are still somewhat under-developed as an artform, so I understand if it is treated otherwise. If not their own artform, then video games are Cinema + agency.

    • @gguy3600
      @gguy3600 Год назад +1

      Honestly, I think that videos games are such a broad category that whether or not it counts as a separate artform really depends on the game. There are some (often AAA) games such as the Uncharted series that, to an extent, market themselves as interactive movies, so there's obviously a lot of overlap there. But then you have games like Paper's Please which have practically no overlap with cinema and rely mostly on tools unique to video games as a medium. You also have games which rely so heavily on the "game" aspect such as Pong that it's hard to argue for it being a work of art.
      Overall I feel that video games are a medium that can create art which falls into the category of 'interactive movie' and art which exists in an entirely separate artform, as well as stuff that isn't art at all. I think that the reason why this argument is so confusing is just that there isn't a way of properly labeling the stuff that falls under a separate artform unique to games. But hey, I guess it's stuff like that makes art an art rather than a science.

    • @MrDivinemethod
      @MrDivinemethod Год назад

      What would you say is a good starting point for someone who wants to get into Japanese animated content? If I was your friend who is into cinema but hasn’t really watched much anime - where should I start?

    • @gguy3600
      @gguy3600 Год назад +1

      @Siva Haran If you already like movies then that's probably the best place to start. Films like; Your Name, A Silent Voice, or pretty much anything directed by Hayao Miyazaki will have the broadest appeal. But if you want something more "artsy" then something along the lines of Akira, or a Satoshi Kon film could be good too.
      If you want to get into tv anime though, then your safest bet is probably start with a few mainstream shows. It might be better to stick with shows that are recent or currently airing since it will be easier to find a community for them online, but some of the less recent stuff like Death Note or Cowboy Bebop can be really good gateway anime too.
      I didn't recommend any specific recent shows though, because right now there's just so much coming out (and such a wide variety of stuff coming out) that you might be best off just looking at a list of popular recent shows, and seeing what interests you.
      One thing I will say though, is stay away from the isekai genre until you've already seen a decent number of shows. It's not that the genre is inherently _bad_ it's just that even the super popular stuff in the genre relies very heavily on references and tropes from other anime, so it's not the best starting point for most people.
      All this being said, there's no universal formula that will definitely get someone into anime. The best way to get into anything will vary from person to person, and no matter how much research you do there's a degree of luck involved as to whether or not you'll find the best starting point for you. But it's as they say, nothing ventured nothing gained. As vague as it is the best advice I can give you is to just watch some stuff and see how it goes.

    • @Wordsman
      @Wordsman Год назад +1

      @@MrDivinemethodTL;DR it depends on your preferences. I have a very extensive list below with separate paragraphs for different genre preferences, namely Comedy/Slice of Life, a couple subgenres of action, and lastly some heartfelt/cry shows that I have to mention. Make sure to read the last paragraph about culture differences if you don't want to be surprised about the difference in content standards. Sorry if this is overwhelming I wanted to be thorough! There's more anime out there than anyone could possibly keep up with.
      I would have to ask about your preferences in cinema first. One of, if not the, greatest anime of all time is Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood. It's 64 episodes, the english dub is great, and I can recommend it because everything that any anime can do great, FMA Brotherhood does at least good. It's like the jack of all trades (and almost master of all) of anime.
      If you like COMEDY, then check out Nichijou for a series of random hilarious skits or Saiki-K for a story about a super psychic introvert just wanting a normal life. You could also venture into the SLICE-OF-LIFE genre with stuff like K-On, a group of freshman high-school girls trying to start a band together, or maybe Kaguya-sama Love is War. That last one I've only heard about but it looks like an over-the-top highschool drama about some highschoolers trying to trick each other into confessing their love for the other.
      ACTION is one of the biggest genres of anime. If you love Quentin Tarantino movies, I'd say start with Black Lagoon and search for similar stuff from there. Combine the worst aspects of cities like Las Vegas, Chicago, Detroit and more and you've got Roanapur, homebase for pretty much every mafia you can think of, as well as the crew of the Black Lagoon Shipping Company. Have fun.
      There's tons of ACTION Sub-Genres from Isekai to Shonen to Seinen to Video Game (I'm not kidding) to other original ideas. For now, I'll list recommended Shonen and Seinen to (hopefully) not overwhelm you too much.
      Shonen. The most popular shows that you've probably heard of were originally Manga (japanese comic books) published in a magazine called Shonen Jump. This is where Naruto, Dragon Ball, Bleach, One Piece, Demon Slayer, My Hero Academia, Jujutsu Kaisen and more started. Shonen is a japanese term meaning "for kids" but it tends to be more akin to the american "for teens" in terms of content. Lots of fun action but also alot of silly comedy, often including surprisingly beefy themes. Closest Western equivalent is Avatar the Last Airbender, but most Shonen, especially modern ones, are more teenage than that, especially in the area of violence. While they are all staples in anime communities, they tend to have super long episode counts (hundreds, some even over a thousand) so lots of people (like myself) just use RUclips to learn the important stuff. Also, if you've heard of Attack on Titan, that is technically a Shonen (published in Shonen Jump) but is not for the faint of heart. When people say "animation is for children," I like to tell them about Attack on Titan, where the MC watches his mother get eaten by a giant humanoid Titan in the first episode. The show goes from brutal survival action to political thriller to all-out-war. It is one of the most popular anime for a reason.
      Seinen is the equivalent of Shonen but for adults. It's one of the less well-defined genres by the community, but generally anything with a more brutal world and adult themes is at least Seinen-esque. The aforementioned Black Lagoon, Ghost In the Shell (this inspired the Matrix movies, it's a brutal sci-fi military world with HEAVY themes about what it means to be human with a fully robot body) There's Psycho-Pass, a psychological horror about the struggle of keeping freewill in a high-technology world. There's Berserk, which is best read in it's manga form instead of watched, a horribly brutal and gory medieval world and a story about pushing forward through hardship.
      There are so many anime I want to recommend and talk about, but I'll finish (absurdly long essay) with HEARTFELT/CRY anime. I'm personally a sucker for these.
      Violet Evergarden is my personal favorite anime of all time. It's about a child soldier after the war has ended. Her major was the only person who treated her as anything more than a weapon of war and so her only true relationship was him. But he ostensibly died in the final battle. This is all pretty clearly set up in the first episode. She takes a job as a ghost writer for hire to write letters for people so she can learn the emotional intelligence to try and understand her major's last words to her: "Violet, you have to live and be free. I love you." Bring a tissue box.
      A Silent Voice is a movie made by the same people who made Violet Evergarden. The protagonist bullied a girl in elementary school and it all backfired on him. Now he is depressed and suicidal and decides to try and mend relations with her. Good God it hits you in the feels.
      Search up the term "Studio Ghibli" whenever you get a chance. Pick a movie and watch it. You won't regret it.
      You might be surprised how good sports anime can be. Haikyuu!! is a volleyball show, Koroko's Basketball is, obviously, basketball, and Blue Lock is a popular one now about soccer/non-american football.
      My final heartfelt recommendations are Blue Period and SpyFamily. Blue Period is about the journey of an artistic guy who falls in love with painting and his struggles going to art school despite a modern society. Spy Family is probably the most wholesome Mr. and Mrs. Smith twist you'll ever see, because the adopted 5 year old kid is a telepath and knows both of their secrets, but, with the intelligence and tact of a 5 year old, Anya thinks it's the coolest thing ever.
      The aforementioned last paragraph. Holy crap I'm so sorry for the length. I just wanted to make sure you knew Japan's culture has alot looser standards in terms of "appropriate content" than the west. This translates to much greater freedom to make good art instead of watering stuff down for the sake of a message, however this also opens the door to stuff that can make people uncomfortable, especially in the realm of sexualization. From the overused joke of walking into the bathroom to the many forms of some guy trying to get a projectile nose bleed and being absurdly dumbfounded by a girl's body, "fan service" is a very common occurrence in anime. The worst of it can be a protagonist straight up groping a girl he finds cute as a joke, but thankfully that stuff is pretty much only found in older content from the early 2000's and earlier. Nowadays you should only really have to worry about camera angles and humorously compromising situations. Do not let this stuff deter you though, just skip through it if it becomes a problem. You'll be missing out on so many incredible and beautiful stories of you do.
      Thank you for reading the third draft of a 30-minute video essay script. Anime fans tend to be quite passionate. Let me know if you need a shorter version lol

    • @MrDivinemethod
      @MrDivinemethod Год назад +1

      @@Wordsman wow -- never have I ever been given so much love and attention -- even my closest friends wouldn't take the care and detail you have to put this list together. This is amazing. And to think this the RUclips comments section, considered to be the cesspool of human interactions. You have proven it wrong and increased my faith in humanity. thank you! I am going to copy your response over to my notes and start my journey into Japanese anime.

  • @MaraldBes
    @MaraldBes Год назад

    imdb movie list of intercuts please.

  • @NexoBowi
    @NexoBowi Год назад

    "Spoilers" for films every human being has seen💀

  • @jimhestermanphotography
    @jimhestermanphotography Год назад

    Too late, I subscribed a long time ago. I have a problem with authority. Also... great video. I've been wanting to do something similar to this, but different enough, for my first on camera appearance for my channel.

  • @HDBnB1
    @HDBnB1 Год назад

    So what were we looking for with the wolf of wall street scene? I’m dying to know

    • @EpicLightMedia
      @EpicLightMedia  Год назад

      I guess I made it overly confusing. Just the cut. Literally the shot change between the two actors haha

  • @AmaraARW
    @AmaraARW Год назад

    It took me to the end of this video to realize this was Epic Light Media and not StudioBinder lol

  • @mrfryfilmguy
    @mrfryfilmguy Год назад

    I don't care what anyone says, I really like this channel..

    • @thomasmanning9111
      @thomasmanning9111 Год назад

      Most people hate it but thanks anyway

    • @mrfryfilmguy
      @mrfryfilmguy Год назад

      @@thomasmanning9111 Haha, no worries. Keep up the great work 🙏

  • @ZvilgantisKailis
    @ZvilgantisKailis Год назад

    And 9th art is comics / graphic novels.

  • @tonytoffolo9915
    @tonytoffolo9915 Год назад

    I think art goes way beyond those 8 forms outlined though I understand those are seen as the most “traditional” forms.

  • @smakujem3966
    @smakujem3966 Год назад

    5:39 what film is that? Indiana?

  • @NunsenseStudios2110
    @NunsenseStudios2110 Год назад

    Kinda shocked that video games aren't included in the art forms. :/

  • @ramtinnazeryan
    @ramtinnazeryan Год назад

    sound

  • @gkochanowsky
    @gkochanowsky Год назад

    You keep this up and you're gonna get more subscribers. What are you thinking??!!

  • @GeorgeJohnsonJackofAllTrades
    @GeorgeJohnsonJackofAllTrades Год назад

    You only left out EVERYTHING important, you nube. It's okay. I still love you.

  • @BaskenmannZwei
    @BaskenmannZwei Год назад

    Thank you for this video, did you ever experience artful games like Limbo? I think there are games right now which are on pair with the artwork of cinema (as someone who works in the industry, but also has experience in programming). Games, in their best way, can have all the benefits that movies have, plus another artwork which is programming. So as a movie enthusiast and lover of a handful of well crafted games I respectfully disagree :-) !

  • @clayschmoldt8933
    @clayschmoldt8933 Год назад

    What movie is at 8:00?

  • @mr.psyduck4093
    @mr.psyduck4093 Год назад

    As you said, dont subscribe, but you didnt say dont like. So i just did :P

  • @monztermovies
    @monztermovies Год назад +2

    Lewis Potts would have never have bored us with a video like this…..unsubbed….

  • @facts8028
    @facts8028 Год назад +1

    I did subscribe first. But after that request I had to undo that 😞

  • @8lec_R
    @8lec_R Год назад

    There's no specific set of art forms. You forgot the biggest art form (going by how much money is spent on it), games.
    Besides there's no use in trying to categorize which mediums for art are "worthy". Art comes in many different shapes in sizes and it all depends on the audience and what they feel when experiencing it.
    For the record, I personally do not consider a lot of games to be art, due to the fact that they are not made with artistry in mind, but something else. But that's true for other media as well and a separate point altogether

  • @Donbros
    @Donbros Год назад

    Movie is a movie 0:08 but shows tv serie

  • @FharishAhmedPortfolio
    @FharishAhmedPortfolio Год назад

    1:38
    Whaddya mean, we photographers aren't forms???
    We're like painters, only on the extreme lazy side!!!

    • @thomasmanning9111
      @thomasmanning9111 Год назад +1

      It’s true…photography isn’t an art form. It should be in my opinion. Kinda

    • @FharishAhmedPortfolio
      @FharishAhmedPortfolio Год назад

      @@thomasmanning9111 Nah, I was just being sarcastic.
      Even my photography professor told us back in the day, that, "We steal other people's work, just from a different point of view"
      😁

  • @muthamalarajesh3757
    @muthamalarajesh3757 Год назад

    🇮🇳❤️

  • @massetozacarias5693
    @massetozacarias5693 Год назад +4

    did you just used Margot Robbie in the thumbnail cause she's hot and might get clicks? if so I'm into it

  •  Год назад

    Actually theater is not an art itself. Theater is considered the collaboration of all the other arts. But not one of the seven. The one you missed is dance

    • @EpicLightMedia
      @EpicLightMedia  Год назад +1

      I just googled art forms and found a few sources

    •  Год назад

      @@EpicLightMedia Yeah I just did the same. Wikipedia has it as "Performing" arts which includes both :)

  • @mengshun
    @mengshun Год назад

    Photography is an "art form", kidding aside. And yes I've read a number of sources through the years. The concept of "the 7 art forms" is a rather quaint, perjorative - and most importantly - temporal view. As Sylvia Walker noted, "back in the day, the seven different art forms were called the Liberal Arts, consisting of Grammar, Logic, Rhetoric, Arithmetic, Geometry, Astronomy, and Music." And based on formal education and experience, art is anything we deem it (enjoy proving the negative) and "art forms" is just more needless BS cateogrization, like how the French try to decide what's French or not and end simply artificially constraining ideas, communication and thought while boundlessness of reailty makes a mockery of it.

    • @thomasmanning9111
      @thomasmanning9111 Год назад

      I like the list otherwise really good accountants and dentists would claim to be artists

  • @s.simun01
    @s.simun01 Год назад +1

    "Unless you lived in a Rome or another barbaric time in history"
    Romans, who proudly juxtaposed themselves to barbaric tribes: "are we a joke to you?"

    • @EpicLightMedia
      @EpicLightMedia  Год назад

      Oh I should have said Ancient Rome I forgot people still lived there haha

  • @CoffeeandPhotographyTalk
    @CoffeeandPhotographyTalk Год назад

    This video was so good it made me unsubscribe and subscribe to 5 other channels!!

  • @mtj_zuffa
    @mtj_zuffa Год назад

    i will report you to Curtis!! -9db!!!

    • @EpicLightMedia
      @EpicLightMedia  Год назад +2

      it was sounding too crunchy on our phones so we lowered the volume.

    • @mtj_zuffa
      @mtj_zuffa Год назад +1

      nah no problem at all, thanks for the explanation, sorry for being salty, just wanted attention, great video!

  • @pedroesteves3018
    @pedroesteves3018 Год назад

    squid game is a great movie..

  • @levicochrane
    @levicochrane Год назад

    Last

  • @jeremysanchez8118
    @jeremysanchez8118 Год назад

    To go over the point you made about thinking that cinema is the highest of the artforms is a thought to be sure, but I think animation (although not considered to be a distinct art form, although no one would debate it) is the highest. Since it has everything that regular cinema has, and includes the liberty of being able to completely create any idea you have. Although one could also include animation as a subset of cinema. But this was a good video, keep it up, just unsubbed.

    • @jeremysanchez8118
      @jeremysanchez8118 Год назад

      I did some very light research and the concept of art forms are just kind of weird since you can't quickly find out who came up with the original 5 art forms, then 6, and later 7, and now 8 (shoutout to camera conspiracies) it kind of ignores other types of art forms such as culinary arts. Which then could lead you on a tangent about what is art, wikipedia describes it as possibly being an endeavor that could "employ skill and imagination to produce objects, performances, convey insights and experiences, and construct new environments and spaces." So then under that definition could you consider a torture chamber art? Since it takes both skill and imagination, creates a performance (performance art if your GENEROUS) creates an experience for all involved, and constructs a new space. I wouldn't want to allow it but art is an abstract concept which allows that argument to be made, and makes my previous comment kinda dumb since art is so subjective. Idk, Movies are nice.

  • @sdsfilmsaz
    @sdsfilmsaz Год назад +3

    How dare you educate and entertain me at the same time. Unsubscribe!

  • @finnfransen_official279
    @finnfransen_official279 Год назад

    And dancing is nog even included in your so called art list! + there are more more art forms than this.

  • @djangokroon6108
    @djangokroon6108 Год назад

    Great video! Unsubscribed!

  • @BrandonHinojosa
    @BrandonHinojosa Год назад

    Needed this, thank you, and forever unsubscribed!

  • @ShowCat1
    @ShowCat1 Год назад

    I just got through NOT subscribing.

  • @MrDivinemethod
    @MrDivinemethod Год назад

    This -- this is the content I don’t like seeing on epic light media the most. And that’s why I have NOT subscribed. Please don’t make any more of these types of videos. EVER!