hello, I have a problem with my La Cimbali M1 coffee maker, everything seems to work properly. When I turn it on, it heats up and brews coffee. If I don't leave the coffee maker idle, everything works. But as soon as I leave the coffee maker for half an hour without attention, nothing can be brewed. The coffee maker says it is cold even though it is not cold. After turning it off and on again, it works fine until there is a longer delay in brewing coffee. Have you ever encountered such a problem? Thank you very much
@@kava463 Hi, I've only worked on the M1,M2 series for a bit. Enough to disassemble and reassemble completely. But one of the concerns was the elaborate programming control. Cimbali went all out with tweaking every aspect of coffee brewing. So how does that affect the "Regular" customer? Those that just want the standard cup of coffee. The multitude of adjustments if left at a high tolerance will show som of the effects you mention. Yes, it's possible there's a bad or worn part. Your probably in need of maintenance by your vendor. Most Super Automatic machines require daily, monthly, semiannual maintenance. M1/2 series will actually lock up after a year (default setting). The customer may be able to perform and reset back to basic settings. Though most won't take the time to learn. As I mention earlier, you could program your self for an insane level of coffee that would shame the average Barista. (Experts also paint pretty pictures on crema. ) OK, back to you: Check and perform daily cleaning. Don't restart as it may ask you to clean again. Don't forget to drop required cleaning pill. Try a single espresso dose (into a glass shot glass). Look at it. Does it look like it should? Compared to what you see on RUclips. It should be close enough to pass casual inspection. If it's perfect then your probably OK and most likely need Vendor's quarterly/annual maintenance. When they show have them check your coffee settings to allow for a more tolerable espresso. Meaning, have them widen or lower the water heating limits to a the lowest recommended settings. The water boiler may be set at max for tea water (British like the hot water at max) but this is not necessarily the best for espresso. There's also several temperature monitoring probes that can go bad or set to a restricted temperature variance. These probes should be checked for failure or readjusted for your needs. On the bad end: Bad heater(s); Boiler, Table heaters, and location warmers. Your probably in needed gaskets change. Look at you dregs drawer for the "Pucks" they should like like a hockey puck. Firm and not falling apart. You should be able to pick it up whole. Loose grounds indicates over filling and low brew heating, and compaction. Either way, it still looks like your out of a tolerance for brewing your coffee at your original settings. (Is it possible this is a second hand machine? Set up at previous owners settings? If so, it needs to be readjusted to your needs.) Final: if no change after cleaning and dose check. Then you will need to have service check and maintenance. If it's a purchase "used" the you will need to locate a programming manual or instalation and set up manual. It's tedious to learn but worth it if your a "coffee aficionado" Aloha, Safe Holliday, Mark (ukeboy57 @ RUclips)
@@ukeboy57 Thank you for the exhaustive answer, I am a coffee enthusiast :-D However, what you describe unfortunately does not lead to the repair or operation of the machine. I will try to describe it again. Maybe I did not describe the problem correctly the first time. So: After the first start of the machine (plugging into a 230V socket), the coffee maker heats up and makes all possible drinks in perfect quality. However, if I leave the machine for a longer time, the boiler gets cold and does not heat up again, the machine only says that it is cold. If at this moment I turn the coffee maker off and on from the socket (230V), it heats up again without any problems and brews several coffees in a row. It seems to me as if it went into standby mode and could not switch back. I performed the annual maintenance and cleared all the counters, unfortunately it did not help. I would be happy for any advice if you can think of anything else.
@@kava463 OK let's establish the groundwork. Can you give me a bit of its history? Who set it up. New or used. Vendor service available? Location. Sorry to get personal as every Location on world has a different setting. Email ukeboy2@yahoo.com
@@kava463 by the way, it sounds like it starts in quick mode then drops out awaiting formal start. It sort of give you the option of a quick start w/o going through the full heat, clean, flush cycle. Still a program set up issue.
@@kava463 I'm not sure if I have a full manual on M1/2 series. I have a 'cheat sheet' for our standard settings here in Hawaii. I'll have to look around a bit. Will let u know if I find it.
Have a M51. Its heating up and after a while the prestostat switch clicks so the power to the heating elements is switched off. But display still says: temperature low. In what way does the machine sense the water temperature in the boiler and what could possibly be wrong it still says: temperature low?
There's two circuits that handle temperature. The main is the pressure switch (aka pressurestat). The 2nd is a temperature probe. It's a small plug tith a short 3 inch wire ending in a yellow plug. It's usually around the upper end of the tank. There may be a 2nd probe in a separate water tank if it's an older machine with a dual tank (pre heat exchanger model)
Honestly. I always wondered why they added this type of temperature probe. It does go bad but not often as it's just a twisted bi-metal wire buried in epoxy. I'll try to post a video today. Aloha, Mark
hello, I have a problem with my La Cimbali M1 coffee maker, everything seems to work properly. When I turn it on, it heats up and brews coffee. If I don't leave the coffee maker idle, everything works. But as soon as I leave the coffee maker for half an hour without attention, nothing can be brewed. The coffee maker says it is cold even though it is not cold. After turning it off and on again, it works fine until there is a longer delay in brewing coffee. Have you ever encountered such a problem? Thank you very much
@@kava463 Hi, I've only worked on the M1,M2 series for a bit. Enough to disassemble and reassemble completely. But one of the concerns was the elaborate programming control. Cimbali went all out with tweaking every aspect of coffee brewing. So how does that affect the "Regular" customer? Those that just want the standard cup of coffee. The multitude of adjustments if left at a high tolerance will show som of the effects you mention. Yes, it's possible there's a bad or worn part. Your probably in need of maintenance by your vendor. Most Super Automatic machines require daily, monthly, semiannual maintenance. M1/2 series will actually lock up after a year (default setting). The customer may be able to perform and reset back to basic settings. Though most won't take the time to learn. As I mention earlier, you could program your self for an insane level of coffee that would shame the average Barista. (Experts also paint pretty pictures on crema. ) OK, back to you: Check and perform daily cleaning. Don't restart as it may ask you to clean again. Don't forget to drop required cleaning pill. Try a single espresso dose (into a glass shot glass). Look at it. Does it look like it should? Compared to what you see on RUclips. It should be close enough to pass casual inspection. If it's perfect then your probably OK and most likely need Vendor's quarterly/annual maintenance. When they show have them check your coffee settings to allow for a more tolerable espresso. Meaning, have them widen or lower the water heating limits to a the lowest recommended settings. The water boiler may be set at max for tea water (British like the hot water at max) but this is not necessarily the best for espresso. There's also several temperature monitoring probes that can go bad or set to a restricted temperature variance. These probes should be checked for failure or readjusted for your needs. On the bad end: Bad heater(s); Boiler, Table heaters, and location warmers. Your probably in needed gaskets change. Look at you dregs drawer for the "Pucks" they should like like a hockey puck. Firm and not falling apart. You should be able to pick it up whole. Loose grounds indicates over filling and low brew heating, and compaction. Either way, it still looks like your out of a tolerance for brewing your coffee at your original settings. (Is it possible this is a second hand machine? Set up at previous owners settings? If so, it needs to be readjusted to your needs.) Final: if no change after cleaning and dose check. Then you will need to have service check and maintenance. If it's a purchase "used" the you will need to locate a programming manual or instalation and set up manual. It's tedious to learn but worth it if your a "coffee aficionado" Aloha, Safe Holliday, Mark (ukeboy57 @ RUclips)
@@ukeboy57 Thank you for the exhaustive answer, I am a coffee enthusiast :-D However, what you describe unfortunately does not lead to the repair or operation of the machine. I will try to describe it again. Maybe I did not describe the problem correctly the first time. So: After the first start of the machine (plugging into a 230V socket), the coffee maker heats up and makes all possible drinks in perfect quality. However, if I leave the machine for a longer time, the boiler gets cold and does not heat up again, the machine only says that it is cold. If at this moment I turn the coffee maker off and on from the socket (230V), it heats up again without any problems and brews several coffees in a row. It seems to me as if it went into standby mode and could not switch back. I performed the annual maintenance and cleared all the counters, unfortunately it did not help. I would be happy for any advice if you can think of anything else.
@@kava463 OK let's establish the groundwork. Can you give me a bit of its history? Who set it up. New or used. Vendor service available? Location. Sorry to get personal as every Location on world has a different setting. Email ukeboy2@yahoo.com
@@kava463 by the way, it sounds like it starts in quick mode then drops out awaiting formal start. It sort of give you the option of a quick start w/o going through the full heat, clean, flush cycle. Still a program set up issue.
@@kava463 I'm not sure if I have a full manual on M1/2 series. I have a 'cheat sheet' for our standard settings here in Hawaii. I'll have to look around a bit. Will let u know if I find it.
Have a M51. Its heating up and after a while the prestostat switch clicks so the power to the heating elements is switched off. But display still says: temperature low. In what way does the machine sense the water temperature in the boiler and what could possibly be wrong it still says: temperature low?
There's two circuits that handle temperature. The main is the pressure switch (aka pressurestat). The 2nd is a temperature probe. It's a small plug tith a short 3 inch wire ending in a yellow plug. It's usually around the upper end of the tank. There may be a 2nd probe in a separate water tank if it's an older machine with a dual tank (pre heat exchanger model)
Honestly. I always wondered why they added this type of temperature probe. It does go bad but not often as it's just a twisted bi-metal wire buried in epoxy. I'll try to post a video today. Aloha, Mark
I've speculate this probe is for precise heat control of heating (for brewing?) But thought it an option more for the coffee perfectionist.
It's morning here, give me a couple of hours. I'll look up the part# and any other info.
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