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  • @GIOBOZZ
    @GIOBOZZ 2 месяца назад +2

    If you would like to suggest videos for me to react to please fill this reaction request form
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  • @sielukettu
    @sielukettu 2 месяца назад +57

    Shangri-La is like a mythical paradise.

    • @sielukettu
      @sielukettu 2 месяца назад +28

      He's singing about the rottenness of modern culture (in Finland) where we focus on materialism and entertainment instead of actually taking care of stuff and of each other. 😃

  • @Skege1000
    @Skege1000 2 месяца назад +57

    It was about all the shitty things about life in Finland and how politicians don't do enough to help people, and only helps themself.

    • @Aquelll
      @Aquelll 2 месяца назад +17

      Specifically a criticism of individualistic right-wing capitalist politics and the wasteful way off life and problems it causes. So the song is more true than ever just about now. 😂

    • @syrjanen3397
      @syrjanen3397 2 месяца назад +6

      @@Aquelllbetter than leftish😅

  • @JarkkoLaitinen211
    @JarkkoLaitinen211 2 месяца назад +23

    Helsinki - Shangri-La" is a song that depicts the artist Paleface's personal experiences and views of Helsinki. In the song, he compares the city of Helsinki to the concept of Shangri-La, known as a utopian paradise or a perfect place.
    In the lyrics, Paleface portrays the diversity of Helsinki and the city's life from various perspectives. He shares his own experiences in the city and the opportunities it offers, but also its downsides and challenges. The song reflects Paleface's love for the city and at the same time, a critical perspective on its societal and cultural aspects.
    Overall, the song depicts the complex identity of Helsinki and provides listeners with a profound reflection on the essence of the city and its impact on people's lives.

  • @Audiojack_
    @Audiojack_ 2 месяца назад +31

    Funny how you pronounced "Paleface" in some weird finnish way even though it's english :D Because he got the name in the US while he was an exchange student. And Shangri-La is a fictional Tibetan utopia from an old novel.

    • @GIOBOZZ
      @GIOBOZZ 2 месяца назад +6

      That makes sense. 😆

  • @MikaTarkela
    @MikaTarkela 2 месяца назад +11

    He has great songs in english as well + a nice accent :D

  • @ShortRound27
    @ShortRound27 2 месяца назад +13

    Paleface actually got his name while being an exchange student in the US, he got along better with black and latino people so they started calling him paleface because he was so white.

  • @jannelepola4730
    @jannelepola4730 2 месяца назад +7

    Some of my statements might be off leading or biased, but I'm trying to open why this song is so important part of finnish rap-music, all the while it's not even rap/hiphop song.
    It's important to understand the musical reference here against what Paleface is performing. First of all, Paleface was one of the first mainstream artists to get recognition for rapping in English back in ~2000. The song "Back to square one" is one fine gem and important piece of Finnish rap history. From my point of view Paleface had all the cards on his hand and could have become one of the most important figures of Finnish rap scene, but he remained true to self and saw that he had more to say through his lyrics and music than just being a newly throned king of Finnish rap. That crown was very quickly passed to other rappers, who became successful pop artists.
    Paleface has always been political figure and he became frequently seen face on Finnish political left wing, or at least at the events they hosted. He was eager to describe his political views as well, though not being an political extrimist.
    When he released this song I was baffled: This was an old cuplé-song from 1960-70's! It follows the song and chord structure of songs sung by entertainers of common folk way back, "a man and a guitar", which had Finnish melancholy mixed with sad, satiric and comedic lyrics. The form of these kind of songs usually represented life of common people, as well as they did tell satirical stories about those who had the power... and then, after well over 50 years later, one of the most talented lyricists of Finnish rap and hiphop scene decided to do a song, which was more true to it's origins than original songs were! No one saw that coming and no one had even done anything like this (at least on the level of getting recognition).
    Even as you couldn't understand the words, you felt the anger he was building up over the the song. For an example, one of the first verses tells "Let's get rid of all the queers and other parasites, the front of parliament is blazing on fire -- Hallelujah hey, screams the 'zero tolerance', while the security companies and the FPS celebrate!". Basically he is telling how common folk (politically on the left side) are being suppressed by political right and capitalism, or how conservative power is suppressing liberals. Beginnings of verse tell something, which is then contradicted by telling how twisted the reality is -- basically it's about how human rights are suppressed by the capitalism, and that's why the "Helsinki Shangri-La" is a joke about ideal Finnish community, which in reality doesn't exists at least for those who don't live it. It's a contradiction to the reality (or imagination) of Finland being the country of happiest people, because not everyone lives the same reality.
    Yes, it's a left party political and satirical protest song, which mirrors Finnish class struggle. There are those who have everything and live the life, while the others are barely scraping through.
    The song itself has very little do with rap/hiphop, except for the lyrical mastery of Paleface, which is on the level which rap artists are trying to reach to. Since this song was released Paleface has become more well known as an song writer than that of a rap musician. Personally I cannot remember a single song from him since this one, but he is well known for being a coach for young artists who try to get into the music industry as song writers. He is also still active on music scene.

    • @jannelepola4730
      @jannelepola4730 2 месяца назад +2

      ... and just to add up what he is singing about. It's about everything. There are so many things he covers in such a short song that I cannot describe everything here, and some of those references would be very hard to translate without knowing either the culture or the backgrounds of the things/events being referred.
      Basically the song covers all the failures and misgivings of Finnish people. He covers the alcoholism (for an example, how people cannot get treated), he describes how people are controlled by different powers with either by fear or security cameras, he reminds the people of the Lahti skiing doping scandal (which is one of the worst cultural wounds Finns have ever had) and reminds about one of the saddest moments of this decade, when Pekka-Eric Auvinen, a student, bought 22 caliber gun and threw a school massacre.
      Easiest way to study the lyrics would be to google 'em and throw the Finnish lyrics to an AI for translation and ask it to analyze the lyrics.
      PS. Thanks for making these videos. I was lead here by the history of Finnish rap songs. It was a real shame that the clips of those videos were just way too short, because 5 seconds per song couldn't give any estimation on what the song really sounded like. Still, it's great to reflect own culture against someone else viewing it!
      PPS. In my opinion, even though the song describes how everything is wrong about Finland, it's a "serious satire". It cleverly reminds people of everything that is wrong, even though Finland is one of the better countries to live at. It can be viewed either as a powerful protest song, which yells "can't you see how everything is shit" or either as an eye wink and reminder of the real problems within community that still is the seen as the "happyland" for majority of people living there. Personally I would believe that Paleface has a sense of humor and this song is more about poking the right wing, instead of being too serious depiction of Finland. This kind of poking and self-sarcasm is something that Finnish musicians have been good at. For an example "Eppu Normaali - Tuhansien Murheellisten Laulujen Maa" ("The land of thousands of sad songs"), is very similar depiction of Finnish mentality ~30 years ago and about misgivings and grieves of working class anti-heroes.

    • @uwu_smeg
      @uwu_smeg 2 месяца назад

      hyvää työtä kaveri

  • @ravenfin1916
    @ravenfin1916 2 месяца назад +4

    Shangri-La is a fictional place in Tibet's Kunlun Mountains, described in the 1933 novel Lost Horizon by English author James Hilton.

  • @ilari90
    @ilari90 2 месяца назад +1

    Paleface is the dude, teaching poetry in prisons and such.

  • @JukkaPekkaJuusela
    @JukkaPekkaJuusela 2 месяца назад

    You should check out his earlier production. Late 90s to early 2000s.

  • @moonliteX
    @moonliteX 2 месяца назад +12

    it´s a protest song where every second word is a reference to something that is wrong in our society. it would quite literally be impossible to explain every single reference in a way that you would understand every single undertone, cognitive dissonance, cultural and subcultural meaning of every stab or piece of sarcasm he throws out there.
    or well. it would be a book-sized study paper. maybe someone has made a study of the song? in social studies or something? dunno.

  • @juusoluukkanen
    @juusoluukkanen 2 месяца назад +3

    Like its allready been said, there is a lot of subcontext on the lyrics, and some things only native finnish would understand, but eventhouht I throw the lyrics for the AI to translate and this is what I got. (Hurahuhhah hei is not an actual word, its a chant.)
    When the welfare state is being created in Helsinki
    Facade workers are brought in from Tallinn
    Hurahuhhahhei, from where can we get them the cheapest
    Because that's how we'll make Helsinki into Shangri-La
    Bats and other parasites are eradicated
    Warehouses blaze in front of the Parliament House
    Hallelujahhei, shouts zero tolerance
    Celebrating security companies and FPS
    The flag of regression waves over society
    Surveillance cameras create an atmosphere of fear
    Hurahuhhahhei, paternalistic authority
    Sticker gluers and squatters are thrown into the cell
    Why does everyone know Johanna "agriculture" Tukiainen
    Like three homeless Romanians at the Three Smiths Square
    Hallelujahhei, onto the bonfire of vanities
    It's the seventh day, idols and MTV
    Rich girls with credit cards, loads of debt
    Veikko Hursti, the deceased, has already sunk into oblivion
    Hurahuhhahhei, throw it away and buy a new one
    Visa, payday loan, debt collection letter, credit default
    And in spring, the homeless thaw from the ice
    For a walk of recovery, but not to recovery
    Hallelujahhei, Finland's substance abuse policy
    Pam, pervitin, subutex and Sunday
    Kurtse, Puonti, Pynnönen, and Piippo
    Remind us of Lahti, Hemohes, and skiing
    Hurahuhhahhei, a tip for a man's whiskey bottle
    It's a sting operation, informant, and KRP
    Our country's immigration policy shoots itself in the foot
    If Timo Soini's traumas drive the lively voting
    Hurahuhhahhei, right-wing populists
    Halme, Halla-aho, Jyri Haider, Ku Klux Klan
    AD/HD institute's brain email
    When Pekka-Eric Auvinen bought his twenty-two
    Hurahuhhahhei, for Holmlund's shotguns
    Butchers Kauhajoki's Matti over a dozen
    When the welfare state is being created in Helsinki
    Facade workers are brought in from Tallinn
    Hurahuhhahhei, from where can we get them the cheapest
    Because that's how we'll make Helsinki into Shangri-La

  • @Bobo-pu8qf
    @Bobo-pu8qf 2 месяца назад

    The artist is paleface and the song is helsinki-shangri-la

  • @FrosToes
    @FrosToes 2 месяца назад +3

    Paleface - Kuuluisat Viimeiset Sanat
    That's some good rap.

  • @juri_xiii9977
    @juri_xiii9977 2 месяца назад +1

    Checkout His old Band called "Hoax", too if you can find it.. He's from Hämeenlinna, and a true Finnish Rap legend..

  • @NestoriG
    @NestoriG 2 месяца назад +22

    More Paleface! this is his protest song for Finland Goverment! Hes Finnish infuencer and Godfather of Finnish Rap since1999... And still Royalty. Like Redrama, ASA and many others..... Please react!

  • @Giraffafi124
    @Giraffafi124 2 месяца назад +5

    I think u should check the lyrics translated to english in the videos also, after the song or at the same time even.

  • @Ardious
    @Ardious 2 месяца назад

    If you are interested where he picked the melody from, it's from "mannakorven mailla" recorded by the famous Tapio Rautavaara.

  • @aatoskallio6634
    @aatoskallio6634 2 месяца назад +1

    Paleface is political rap artist and he started on early 90s

  • @roicekettu9110
    @roicekettu9110 2 месяца назад +3

    Kwan - Late Its old but a good song

  • @mikaruhtinas9223
    @mikaruhtinas9223 2 месяца назад +1

    Check out Palefaces Back to square one

  • @hashishi9
    @hashishi9 Месяц назад

    I really hope you got the translation for these lyrics.

  • @echoslam3695
    @echoslam3695 2 месяца назад

    ITS ME HERE TY FR REACT

  • @joelallonen5501
    @joelallonen5501 2 месяца назад

    I never suggested a song for reaction, but im REALLY curious what you think about rising finnish rap star IBE. The song "IBE - DIIPIMPÄÄ" tells a story about a guy who has it all together but he would like to tell you something deeper.
    I dont listen rap music often but this is some hot stuff!
    (Diipimpää means "more deep" or "deeper" tai jotai sinne päin...)

  • @nebulous962
    @nebulous962 2 месяца назад +14

    2:21 He is singing about all the problems that Helsinki has.

    • @Aquelll
      @Aquelll 2 месяца назад +16

      No he's not. The song is a criticism of individualistic right-wing capitalist politics and the wasteful way off life and problems it causes. Helsinki is just the background for it, because he is from Helsinki.

    • @GIOBOZZ
      @GIOBOZZ 2 месяца назад +1

      😮

  • @2o2b
    @2o2b 2 месяца назад +7

    Sauli Niinistö is not the president anymore Alexander-stubb is

    • @Aquelll
      @Aquelll 2 месяца назад +7

      But he is a president. He is still officially called that, so factually he is not wrong.

    • @Sombreropancake-cakemix
      @Sombreropancake-cakemix 2 месяца назад +1

      All the Presidents keep their title after leaving the office. And they are supposed to be spoken to as mr/ms president even after leaving the office. Although it's mostly being done, when they are being referred to.

    • @2o2b
      @2o2b 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Sombreropancake-cakemix @Aquelll true

  • @joonashannila8751
    @joonashannila8751 2 месяца назад

    You know Finland has a pretty huge hiphop culture for a country of this size. If you wanted to get into that, there are hundreds and hundreds of artists, with decades of history. Finnish hiphop has been around since early 90s. It's been mainstream, and not as well.. Again there is a lot of history in finnish hiphop.

  • @sonjaristolainen5116
    @sonjaristolainen5116 2 месяца назад +2

    Paleface's song Laulu Sisällissodasta makes me cry. It's because my greatgreatgrandfather was killed in Finlands civilwar in 1918. He refused to fight in that war.

  • @ninja-peruna
    @ninja-peruna 2 месяца назад +2

    Hi i live in finland and i now good music. Music name is mökki tie

  • @Tyrisalthan
    @Tyrisalthan 2 месяца назад +2

    If you want to see a song with equally hard to translate lyrics, react to the song: Eppu Normaali - Murheellisten laulujen maa.
    It is a great song, and it says a lot about finnish people, the culture here, and the tradition of pain and sorrow that has passed on from generation to generation. It's so full of references that not even most finns understand them all.

  • @hanaa1871
    @hanaa1871 2 месяца назад +4

    React: paleface Aakkosmurha

  • @Zinetha
    @Zinetha 2 месяца назад

    It's a political song, like most of his songs. He's a radical leftist.

    • @GIOBOZZ
      @GIOBOZZ 2 месяца назад

      😮

  • @mole1714
    @mole1714 2 месяца назад +2

    Not Finland's president anymore

    • @jusas1
      @jusas1 2 месяца назад +1

      Yes he is, only former president now

  • @billw.overbeck8913
    @billw.overbeck8913 2 месяца назад

    This is why never Helsinki

  • @riqu-elmeri6473
    @riqu-elmeri6473 2 месяца назад

    If you dont understand Finnish politics, you wont understand this song

  • @ristusnotta1653
    @ristusnotta1653 2 месяца назад +1

    The singer is a political figure and most of his songs are made with a leftits/anarchist mindset 😃

  • @stoner84x
    @stoner84x 2 месяца назад +1

    This is a leftist utopia song

  • @riqu-elmeri6473
    @riqu-elmeri6473 2 месяца назад +3

    This was so bad song to react

    • @MrBanaanipommi
      @MrBanaanipommi 2 месяца назад +1

      Best song from him, not rap tho

    • @Xmies23
      @Xmies23 2 месяца назад

      Amazing tune

  • @EskoTeroPetteri
    @EskoTeroPetteri 2 месяца назад +2

    Paleface is a 0/5 rapper tho :/

    • @bamuzzz
      @bamuzzz 2 месяца назад +8

      wdym, he's really talented

    • @Gibbetoo
      @Gibbetoo 2 месяца назад +6

      i can see that you don't know anything about him.

    • @Spugedelia77
      @Spugedelia77 2 месяца назад +4

      Is the fact that Paleface doesn't share your political views make him a bad rapper in your opinion?

    • @santtumoilanen3065
      @santtumoilanen3065 2 месяца назад

      @@Spugedelia77 i used to like him but stuff he has done in media i cant

  • @morningstarfin8835
    @morningstarfin8835 2 месяца назад +8

    Apparently links in comments are not accepted, my previous comment has disappeared. I'll copy-paste the translation.
    Helsinki - Shangri-La
    We're re-inventing the welfare state in Helsinki
    Let's bring in workers from Tallinn to build the facade
    Hurahuhhahei, as long as it's cheap!
    This is how we turn Helsinki into Shangri-La

    Let's terminate bats (1 - see author's note) and other parasites
    In front of the Parliament house the storage's are aflame
    Halleluijahhei, they scream "Zero tolerance!"
    Security guards and FPS (2) celebrate

    Society - hoist the colours of recession!
    Security cameras keep everyone afraid
    Hurahuhhahei, Nanny state!
    Let's imprison taggers and squatters

    Why does everyone recognise Johanna "agriculture" Tukiainen (3)
    As well as the homeless Romanian under the Three Smiths (4)
    Halleluijahhei, build a bonfire for futility!
    It's 7-days, Idols plus MTV (5)

    Teen princesses have their own credit cards, piles of debt
    The late Veikko Hursti (6) is long forgotten
    Hurahuhhahei, throw it away and buy a new one!
    Visa > payday loans > collection letters > bad credit score

    And in the spring it's time to defrost the homeless
    They can go for a stroll but there's no room in rehab
    Halleluijahhei, Finland's alcohol politics!
    Pamidronate, Pervitin, Subutex, it's a Sunday

    Kurtse plus Puonti, and Pynnönen and Piippo (7)
    This reminds me of Lahti, hemohes and skiing (8)
    Hurahuhhahei, a bottle of whiskey to the informant!
    There's a buy-and-bust, a snitch, and KRP (9)

    Our country's immigration politics is pissing all over itself
    If Timo Soini's (10) traumas can get the people voting
    Hurahuhhahei, right wing populism!
    Halme, Halla-aho (11), Jörg Haider, (12), Klu Klux Klan

    The ADHD institution's brain wave emails got mixed up
    when Pekka-Eric Auvinen bought his .22 long rifle (13)
    Hurrahuhahei, here's to Homlund's rifle! (14)
    Matti from Kauhajoki slaughtered twenty (15)

    We're re-inventing the welfare state in Helsinki
    Let's bring in workers from Tallinn to build the facade
    Hurahuhhahei, as long as it's cheap!
    This is how we turn Helsinki into Shangri-La
    lyricstranslate.com

    • @GIOBOZZ
      @GIOBOZZ 2 месяца назад +5

      Thanks for sharing