UPDATE: LA Metro has now recently brought back the Siemens P2000 light rail vehicles to the Gold Line (now L Line since 2020), all thanks to the nearly completed Regional Connector. Even though the L Line (Gold) will no longer exist by July of this year, LA Metro could celebrate 20 years of light rail service in Pasadena and Northeast LA by rolling the same P2000's that served the Gold Line since 2003. At the same time, LA Metro is now rolling the AnsaldoBreda P2550 LRV's on the Blue Line (now A Line since 2020) also thanks to the RC near completion. Rumor has it that the P2550's might only serve the future E Line (Gold) to and from East LA and Santa Monica, due to the bridges within the Blue Line route too brittle to resist the weight of the P2550's. But all thanks to the Blue Line redevelopment project, it allowed LA Metro to add extra strength to the tracks and bridges in anticipation of the RC.
Crazy. All of a sudden, when I boarded the Gold Line last Saturday heading to Arcadia from APU/Citrus, I caught car 245 with 239-when I took Gold Line back January (last time before last Saturday), all of a sudden, to my surprise, they are back operating since 2013!
Now There Back There 3 Train Model In L Line Kinkishyro P3010 Siemens P2000 And AnsaldoBreda P2550. And AnsaldoBreda P2550 Are Now In Blue Line Now Because Regional Connector.
10 years later rewatching this...wow, now at least Cars 245 and 239 are back on the Gold Line before it splits into Blue and Expo Lines. I remember when they transferred over to the Expo, Blue, and Green Lines and now, they are back to my surprise when I rode Gold Line from APU/Citrus to Arcadia last Saturday! (Headsign outside displayed A LINE (BLUE) LONG BEACH and inside announcers were not working inside showing ARRIVING WASHINGTON
Eas Fan California agreed! But the P2000's aren't leaving anytime soon as the P3010 contract will expire soon and Metro will probably start doing research again for new LRV's (maybe they'll get Siemens S200's like they have on the Calgary C-Train system)
justin mckenzie the problem is LRV's age faster than Subway cars, so they will have to at some point buy more new trains to replace the Aging P2020's and (the ugly) P2000's.
Pretty soon, LA Metro's Siemens P2000 light rail vehicles will roll back on the same old Gold Line tracks once the Regional Connector opens. By then, the original 2003 segment of the Gold Line along with the Azusa segment will be part of the Blue Line (now the A Line) while the Eastside segment of the Gold Line will be part of the Expo Line (now the E Line). At the same time, LA Metro's Ansaldo Breda P2550 light rail vehicles will roll on the Blue and Expo Line tracks for the first time.
@@thiagoknows3504 What do you mean? I saw a RUclips video from Pooh875 of some Breda P2550's test running on the Blue Line route at the 48th Place railroad crossing. And didn't LA Metro redo the entire Blue Line route, making the flyover bridges at Slauson, Rosecrans (near Compton), and Del Amo stronger?
Yeah when the regional connecter is completed siemens p2000 will be in the blue and expo lines to make looking like siemens p2000 is back on the metro gold line
The sliding pantograph shoes can be replaced as part of normal maintenance. Overhead is used when service is on (or partly on) city streets. Third rail can be used when the right of way is completely separate from traffic.
What alot of people dont realize is that this old cars are from the old Green line of Norwalk- El Segundo. Metro is cheape since they dont want to buy new units for the new metro lines. i cant believe mexico has better and newer units than us here in the US .
most electric trains use pantographs like these on these LRV's..the technology has been around for many years..these pantrographs are moderan compared to older trolley poles...however on the septa LRV surface lines system one fleet of LRV's uses trolley poles rather then pantographs..contacts for them don't ware out tht fast because the wires are designe to glide over the pantograph from side to side..like a shuttle on a loom..tht way the contacts get even ware over the whole thing
@@emvvehicles_8 Now the Gold line uses both P3010's and P2550's. The Red and Purple line will soon use new HR4000 Chinese built trains to replace the original Breda A650's.
@@niksterrr1110 When the Regional Connector opens in 2022, the P2000's will be back on the Gold line. As for Metro, I don't like the idea of them ordering China to make the new HR4000 vehicles for the Red and Purple lines. Metro should have had Kawasaki or Anasaldo Breda make the HR4000 trains. China doesn't make good products.
@@theghostofmrcow1985 I hear that the P2020 trains are going to be in storage for a long time. To me, those trains that were built in 1994 or 1995 are in better shape than the original P865's that retired in 2018!!!!
To: EMDSD14R, Yay! A pantograph person! I am also 'pro-pantograph' as the trolley poles IMPO belong in one place: only -- on trolleybusses! Rail should be either catenary/pantograph, or third rail (mostly for metros). Also is the LA system the predominantly French 750VDC system instead of the usual 600VDC? Thanks!
thank you.i am not an expert on them but I know a great deal about how they work and function..well i like seeing the trolley poles on the PCC cars..septa's rebuilt PCC cars now called PCC II's still use trolley poles as does a fleet of their LRV's..PCC cars look funny with pantographs to me...i'll send you some video's with the PCC II's and LRV's..its been a long time since i've seen or been on a trolley bus..septa has those also..oh so LA went for 750 and not the common 600volt DC..thts unqiue
@@TheRetiredTransitFanChannel Metro has already ordered new trains from China called CRRC HR4000. They will soon replace the Breda A650 trains on the Red and Purple line subway in the future.
I was going to say! Sayonara ALREADY to these Siemens P2000s altogether!? Well I saw that you had indicated that they have been moved overto another (green) line. Maybe you ('singwith') or someone here, is it possibe for the riding public to see out the front ends (through the driver's cab) of the trains on the Gold line? I have seen video after video and it is still not clear! I am thousands of kilometres away in Brasil! So I am obviously not there personally to ride them. Muito obrigado
Diareo Knabo's Quote "I was going to say! Sayonara ALREADY to these Siemens P2000s altogether!? Well I saw that you had indicated that they have been moved overto another (green) line. Maybe you ('singwith') or someone here, is it possibe for the riding public to see out the front ends (through the driver's cab) of the trains on the Gold line? I have seen video after video and it is still not clear! I am thousands of kilometres away in Brasil! So I am obviously not there personally to ride them. Muito obrigado " Sorry that I'm only able to respond 2 years after you made the above comment. I ride it every day. The answer is no, you generally cannot. however the little door between the where the driver sits and where everyone sits has a little window, and if you look through this little window you can see out the front window O:
Surprisingly it looks like Siemens wasn't in the business of propulsion then quite like they are now. These are pretty rare Westinghouse GTO-VVVF inverters, which have long since been replaced by IGBT or newer technologies... We have some here in Dallas on the DART (100 series cars pre-mod) and as we all know the TTC T1s in Toronto. Only other installation I'm aware of are in the Taipei Metro. Definitely the most unique sounding inverters I've ever heard.
Anyone got a can of oil around the place?. Love the trolleys, wish more places had them. But, when you do, they require a strong commitment to maintaining the lines and to ensure they are all top notch, in working order, are safe (no barn owls making nests in them) and clean. They must be financed with enough long-term money as well to ensure they keep high standards. American railroads and trolley/bus/interurbans all all poorly kept up and funded way under requirements. In Europe, for example, rail and trolleys are funded to a level high enough to maintain or even improve service and standards. Here we tend to forget them and then watch ridership drop off and the systems slowly die. Trolleys are going to be an important part of urban and commuter transport in the near future and cannot be ignored anymore.
The motor is the same as the NYC Subway retired R110A train car.
UPDATE: LA Metro has now recently brought back the Siemens P2000 light rail vehicles to the Gold Line (now L Line since 2020), all thanks to the nearly completed Regional Connector. Even though the L Line (Gold) will no longer exist by July of this year, LA Metro could celebrate 20 years of light rail service in Pasadena and Northeast LA by rolling the same P2000's that served the Gold Line since 2003. At the same time, LA Metro is now rolling the AnsaldoBreda P2550 LRV's on the Blue Line (now A Line since 2020) also thanks to the RC near completion. Rumor has it that the P2550's might only serve the future E Line (Gold) to and from East LA and Santa Monica, due to the bridges within the Blue Line route too brittle to resist the weight of the P2550's. But all thanks to the Blue Line redevelopment project, it allowed LA Metro to add extra strength to the tracks and bridges in anticipation of the RC.
I know I watch so many videos the P2550 is now on A line P2000 on the L line
The p2000 are back in the goldline tracks. It took almost 12 years to comeback.
Crazy. All of a sudden, when I boarded the Gold Line last Saturday heading to Arcadia from APU/Citrus, I caught car 245 with 239-when I took Gold Line back January (last time before last Saturday), all of a sudden, to my surprise, they are back operating since 2013!
Now There Back There 3 Train Model In L Line Kinkishyro P3010 Siemens P2000 And AnsaldoBreda P2550.
And AnsaldoBreda P2550 Are Now In Blue Line Now Because Regional Connector.
As of now, they have returned to the gold line
10 years later rewatching this...wow, now at least Cars 245 and 239 are back on the Gold Line before it splits into Blue and Expo Lines. I remember when they transferred over to the Expo, Blue, and Green Lines and now, they are back to my surprise when I rode Gold Line from APU/Citrus to Arcadia last Saturday! (Headsign outside displayed A LINE (BLUE) LONG BEACH and inside announcers were not working inside showing ARRIVING WASHINGTON
The Siemens P2000 is my favorite tram in the Los Angeles Metro.
same
@@abel-bg4ub I am excited to see the new HR4000 trains that are coming from China to replace the Breda A650 cars on the Red and Purple lines.
Was, but not anymore since refurbishment.
I wish the nipponshyro was still here. Imagine seeing one on the gold line.
Not Goodbye, once the Regional Connector is complete, these will return as Blue Line trains to Azusa and the P2550's will also be blue line trains.
The Siemens p2000 in my opinion have aged badly. The Nippon Sharyo P865s have aged well
Eas Fan California agreed! But the P2000's aren't leaving anytime soon as the P3010 contract will expire soon and Metro will probably start doing research again for new LRV's (maybe they'll get Siemens S200's like they have on the Calgary C-Train system)
John Schuster I think metro for a few years should stop buying trains like they did before
justin mckenzie the problem is LRV's age faster than Subway cars, so they will have to at some point buy more new trains to replace the Aging P2020's and (the ugly) P2000's.
John Schuster But look at the P865 They used them for years
😭 we Will miss you semes 2,000
They will be back once the regional connector is complete. Someone caught a p2000 testing by Duarte/city of hope station. Is on RUclips.
ruclips.net/video/WDrCozjzwBg/видео.html
@@theghostofmrcow1985 me too it was Pasadenasubcolin
Pretty soon, LA Metro's Siemens P2000 light rail vehicles will roll back on the same old Gold Line tracks once the Regional Connector opens. By then, the original 2003 segment of the Gold Line along with the Azusa segment will be part of the Blue Line (now the A Line) while the Eastside segment of the Gold Line will be part of the Expo Line (now the E Line). At the same time, LA Metro's Ansaldo Breda P2550 light rail vehicles will roll on the Blue and Expo Line tracks for the first time.
i heard that the P2550s are gonna run the expo line only due to the blue line bridges being to brittle to handle the weight of the P2550s
so the P2550s are gonna be on the expo line only
@@thiagoknows3504 What do you mean? I saw a RUclips video from Pooh875 of some Breda P2550's test running on the Blue Line route at the 48th Place railroad crossing. And didn't LA Metro redo the entire Blue Line route, making the flyover bridges at Slauson, Rosecrans (near Compton), and Del Amo stronger?
@@alexanderbanos8125 well suppose to run on expo line only
@@alexanderbanos8125 can you send the link?
Actually Im glad The Gold Stopped Using Siemens Cars because now it can be a whole lot easier to tell if it is a gold line train
lol I take the gold line almost every day.
The new cars sound like they're from the distant future compared to the old cars >_>
very nice video - last frame of highway scene is superb :)
At Least He Is Still In The Blue Expo And Green Line
Yeah when the regional connecter is completed siemens p2000 will be in the blue and expo lines to make looking like siemens p2000 is back on the metro gold line
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The sliding pantograph shoes can be replaced as part of normal maintenance. Overhead is used when service is on (or partly on) city streets. Third rail can be used when the right of way is completely separate from traffic.
What alot of people dont realize is that this old cars are from the old Green line of Norwalk- El Segundo. Metro is cheape since they dont want to buy new units for the new metro lines. i cant believe mexico has better and newer units than us here in the US .
Metro Sheep030903 They ordered like 735 trains not 235
@@justinmckenzie9851 It's 235, not 735
They'rre tough looking Trams,as we call them down here!,Are they being replaced by newer models?
FishplateFilms nope just being moved, they will return however after the regional connector opens.
goodbye metro gold line
🎉🎉😢😢
The same sound from spencer
Sounds like a dart train in dallas when pulling away
More like a DART Kinkisharyo SLRV sounds like a Siemens P2000 (They have the same engine)
Gold pine
Nice Video
somehow that overhead connection to power supply seems like old technology and bound to wear out the contacts?
most electric trains use pantographs like these on these LRV's..the technology has been around for many years..these pantrographs are moderan compared to older trolley poles...however on the septa LRV surface lines system one fleet of LRV's uses trolley poles rather then pantographs..contacts for them don't ware out tht fast because the wires are designe to glide over the pantograph from side to side..like a shuttle on a loom..tht way the contacts get even ware over the whole thing
Awesome Video Snuffy!
They’re destination signs are outdated like the ansaldo Breda p2550 Both trains clearly need LED destination signs
They'll be back this year once the regional connector is finished.
@Kevin black not sure if it matters of not but it's ansaldobreda p2550
what do they use on the gold line now?
Kevin Black P2550
@@emvvehicles_8 Now the Gold line uses both P3010's and P2550's.
The Red and Purple line will soon use new HR4000 Chinese built trains to replace the original Breda A650's.
R.i.p p20000
Ashley Morgan nope!
P2000*
Also, it still serves the Blue, Expo, and Green Line.
@@niksterrr1110 When the Regional Connector opens in 2022, the P2000's will be back on the Gold line.
As for Metro, I don't like the idea of them ordering China to make the new HR4000 vehicles for the Red and Purple lines. Metro should have had Kawasaki or Anasaldo Breda make the HR4000 trains. China doesn't make good products.
It's coming back when the regional connector is complete.
@@theghostofmrcow1985 I hear that the P2020 trains are going to be in storage for a long time. To me, those trains that were built in 1994 or 1995 are in better shape than the original P865's that retired in 2018!!!!
Maybe old technology, but its something that works, and works very well. It works well enough for the TGV & Shinkansen.....
To: EMDSD14R, Yay! A pantograph person! I am also 'pro-pantograph' as the trolley poles IMPO belong in one place: only -- on trolleybusses! Rail should be either catenary/pantograph, or third rail (mostly for metros). Also is the LA system the predominantly French 750VDC system instead of the usual 600VDC? Thanks!
Awesome
They should be removed from the blue line too keep it old school with Nippon electric cabs only
Private Duck I agree. The people living along the Blue line don't respect the newer cars.
Richard Sequeira 880900
I saw that last time
thank you.i am not an expert on them but I know a great deal about how they work and function..well i like seeing the trolley poles on the PCC cars..septa's rebuilt PCC cars now called PCC II's still use trolley poles as does a fleet of their LRV's..PCC cars look funny with pantographs to me...i'll send you some video's with the PCC II's and LRV's..its been a long time since i've seen or been on a trolley bus..septa has those also..oh so LA went for 750 and not the common 600volt DC..thts unqiue
Snuffy. Is. Gold. Line. Extension. Ready
Good thing it got removed or it will make squeaky
santos mejia it's squeaky on the blue line!
@@TheRetiredTransitFanChannel I thought it was 2022?
@@TheRetiredTransitFanChannel Metro has already ordered new trains from China called CRRC HR4000. They will soon replace the Breda A650 trains on the Red and Purple line subway in the future.
Its squeaky because the train was too old and the wheels were detached from the rails thats why it sound like squeaky
I was going to say! Sayonara ALREADY to these Siemens P2000s altogether!? Well I saw that you had indicated that they have been moved overto another (green) line.
Maybe you ('singwith') or someone here, is it possibe for the riding public to see out the front ends (through the driver's cab) of the trains on the Gold line? I have seen video after video and it is still not clear! I am thousands of kilometres away in Brasil! So I am obviously not there personally to ride them. Muito obrigado
Diareo Knabo's Quote
"I was going to say! Sayonara ALREADY to these Siemens P2000s altogether!? Well I saw that you had indicated that they have been moved overto another (green) line.
Maybe you ('singwith') or someone here, is it possibe for the riding public to see out the front ends (through the driver's cab) of the trains on the Gold line? I have seen video after video and it is still not clear! I am thousands of kilometres away in Brasil! So I am obviously not there personally to ride them. Muito obrigado "
Sorry that I'm only able to respond 2 years after you made the above comment.
I ride it every day. The answer is no, you generally cannot. however the little door between the where the driver sits and where everyone sits has a little window, and if you look through this little window you can see out the front window O:
Oh, cute. Treating light rail like real rail with loud level crossing gates and all...
they look like buses in the front.
whats better p2000 or p2550
p2000
Both
P2000 in terms of driving imo
P2000 is my favorite car in Los Angeles Metro.
Carl jr
1:29 sounds like T-1 subway trains in toronto
Yeah
1:29
yeah
LakeshoreTransit1998 probably because the propulsion system in T1's are possibly made by Siemens.
Surprisingly it looks like Siemens wasn't in the business of propulsion then quite like they are now. These are pretty rare Westinghouse GTO-VVVF inverters, which have long since been replaced by IGBT or newer technologies... We have some here in Dallas on the DART (100 series cars pre-mod) and as we all know the TTC T1s in Toronto. Only other installation I'm aware of are in the Taipei Metro. Definitely the most unique sounding inverters I've ever heard.
Hi. Snuffy. Nice. Vidio
Anyone got a can of oil around the place?. Love the trolleys, wish more places had them. But, when you do, they require a strong commitment to maintaining the lines and to ensure they are all top notch, in working order, are safe (no barn owls making nests in them) and clean. They must be financed with enough long-term money as well to ensure they keep high standards. American railroads and trolley/bus/interurbans all all poorly kept up and funded way under requirements. In Europe, for example, rail and trolleys are funded to a level high enough to maintain or even improve service and standards. Here we tend to forget them and then watch ridership drop off and the systems slowly die. Trolleys are going to be an important part of urban and commuter transport in the near future and cannot be ignored anymore.
I prefer to refer them as light rail vehicles