@@alpinecableways Doppelmayr actually, or you could say Doppelmayr-Garaventa as Garaventa would find themselves clawed up by Devilmayr should I say. From what I heard the insane construction costs of building the Alpin Express in Saas-Fee(apparently 41 MILLION FRANCS!!!) did a number on Von Roll's finances. Quite possibly why the VH400 Light and Quattro systems were made, as were a few more standard VH400's after that although they'd been in production since 1984. The VH400 Light and Quattro did not sell well(only 3 VH400 Light's, none survive) and 2 Quattro's(both survive) and we know the rest honestly. Things were better when mehre Herstellern were around. But we let capitalism and what makes the most money dominate us foolishly, and let the big manufacturers shut down everyone who tries to do anything differently(by taking them over). And we let ourselves be told what to think by governmental authorities lobbied by Doppelmayr Leitner and Poma, rather than doing the research ourselves, like I have done, and understanding that the ONLY reason for the longevity of the old lifts is because they are just as safe as the modern ones, although while some systems are not as deropement-proof as some others are, deropements never happen. They have to carry hundreds of thousands to millions of people every year, for DECADES, sometimes even almost a century for lifts like the Rax-Seilbahn, the Schmittenhohebahn, the Predigtstuhlbahn, the Schauinslandbahn and the Fichtelberger Schwebebahn which will have it's centennial this year... They can't have ANY accidents. If the old lifts did have dangerous accidents caused by design problems they would never have lasted anywhere near as long as how they have done, and people wouldn't ride them either. If enthusiasts took responsibility over the lifts instead of governments and corporations, lifts such as the Weissenstein chairlift and so on would probably still be here, as would so many other old lifts. We enthusiasts understand just how much of mechanical artwork the old lifts are, and how worthless and dull the modern lifts are.
You're probably running into a lot of videos of Von Roll VH400's then. This lift is a VH400. Before the VH400 were the VR102(almost extinct, only one left in Switzerland with another moved all the way to Argentina) and the VR101(also only 1 left in Europe, with around 9 more in the United States). However Von Roll did do nearly every lift type possible, ranging from drag lifts, chairlifts(Fixed grip and detachable), monocable gondola lifts, reversible tramway lifts, bicable gondola lifts(only the Madrid one exists), tricable gondola lifts(they only built one, in Saas-Fee, they later had financial issues afterwards) and funiculars. What DOES sound the same though are the modern 8 and 10-seater gondola lifts from Doppelmayr, Leitner, Poma and Bartholet which are destroying every old lift possible as they are faster and more efficient. And they have lots of technology installed in them which the manufactures use to lobby governmental authorities into enforcing unreasonable safety standards which force the old lifts to be destroyed. The modern lifts are mass-produced and don't have a single thing different about them. No different looks, mechanics, or sounds. All the same, not the case with the old lifts as they were made by so many different manufacturers who changed their designs every so often. None of those manufacturers including Von Roll exist any more, all thanks to corporate assertion of domination over them because the global big manufacturers have the most money....
@@CBF1Thats a great text! Yes, Saas-fee had a VR102 but sadly got replaced in 2016. There is just one VR102 left in Switzerland. The Känzeli-Brambruesch one but they sadly already have some plans to replace it by a 10-seater D-Line gondola.
Long live Von Roll. Built better than any other ropeway manufacturer
Yeah... sad that it got buyed by Garaventa 😔
@@alpinecableways Doppelmayr actually, or you could say Doppelmayr-Garaventa as Garaventa would find themselves clawed up by Devilmayr should I say. From what I heard the insane construction costs of building the Alpin Express in Saas-Fee(apparently 41 MILLION FRANCS!!!) did a number on Von Roll's finances. Quite possibly why the VH400 Light and Quattro systems were made, as were a few more standard VH400's after that although they'd been in production since 1984. The VH400 Light and Quattro did not sell well(only 3 VH400 Light's, none survive) and 2 Quattro's(both survive) and we know the rest honestly.
Things were better when mehre Herstellern were around. But we let capitalism and what makes the most money dominate us foolishly, and let the big manufacturers shut down everyone who tries to do anything differently(by taking them over). And we let ourselves be told what to think by governmental authorities lobbied by Doppelmayr Leitner and Poma, rather than doing the research ourselves, like I have done, and understanding that the ONLY reason for the longevity of the old lifts is because they are just as safe as the modern ones, although while some systems are not as deropement-proof as some others are, deropements never happen. They have to carry hundreds of thousands to millions of people every year, for DECADES, sometimes even almost a century for lifts like the Rax-Seilbahn, the Schmittenhohebahn, the Predigtstuhlbahn, the Schauinslandbahn and the Fichtelberger Schwebebahn which will have it's centennial this year...
They can't have ANY accidents. If the old lifts did have dangerous accidents caused by design problems they would never have lasted anywhere near as long as how they have done, and people wouldn't ride them either.
If enthusiasts took responsibility over the lifts instead of governments and corporations, lifts such as the Weissenstein chairlift and so on would probably still be here, as would so many other old lifts. We enthusiasts understand just how much of mechanical artwork the old lifts are, and how worthless and dull the modern lifts are.
I really love the sound of the mechanism. I feel like all von roll ropeway sound the same but not any of the ropeway sound like von roll. Perfect
You're probably running into a lot of videos of Von Roll VH400's then. This lift is a VH400. Before the VH400 were the VR102(almost extinct, only one left in Switzerland with another moved all the way to Argentina) and the VR101(also only 1 left in Europe, with around 9 more in the United States). However Von Roll did do nearly every lift type possible, ranging from drag lifts, chairlifts(Fixed grip and detachable), monocable gondola lifts, reversible tramway lifts, bicable gondola lifts(only the Madrid one exists), tricable gondola lifts(they only built one, in Saas-Fee, they later had financial issues afterwards) and funiculars.
What DOES sound the same though are the modern 8 and 10-seater gondola lifts from Doppelmayr, Leitner, Poma and Bartholet which are destroying every old lift possible as they are faster and more efficient. And they have lots of technology installed in them which the manufactures use to lobby governmental authorities into enforcing unreasonable safety standards which force the old lifts to be destroyed. The modern lifts are mass-produced and don't have a single thing different about them. No different looks, mechanics, or sounds. All the same, not the case with the old lifts as they were made by so many different manufacturers who changed their designs every so often. None of those manufacturers including Von Roll exist any more, all thanks to corporate assertion of domination over them because the global big manufacturers have the most money....
@@CBF1Thats a great text! Yes, Saas-fee had a VR102 but sadly got replaced in 2016. There is just one VR102 left in Switzerland. The Känzeli-Brambruesch one but they sadly already have some plans to replace it by a 10-seater D-Line gondola.
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