Will The BMW M140i Be A FUTURE CLASSIC?
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
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Maybe but there’s too many about for it to be considered a classic IMO
That was also the case for Golfs, Beetles, etc. In m opinion, the question is not so much about whether it will be a classic but when will it be considered a classic. Like you said, there are too many at the moment so it will be a while yet.
Give it time. Trees and power poles should take care of what shitty maintenance and lack of care won't. 🌈⭐
@@richiesworld1 Doubt it. They made too many of them plus they aren't special enough to warrant being a classic. To be a classic there needs something different or a limited run of production.
At the rate they get crashed and given that 95% are modified the stock one with low miles probably will become a modern classic in 5-10 years
@@2candan1 m140 classic in 5 years 😂😂🤦♂️
I had an Alfa 147 GTA. 3.2 V6 amazing noise. Wish I'd kept it. Now that is a modern classic.
Absolutely love the car, but hate the wrap... why hide that Estoril Blue paint, such a shame.
The wrap is real bland
Initially I thought the wrap was ott and not for me but I must say it’s grown on me personally. For a car that isn’t used daily I think it’s great - and it is removable after all!
I think stock ones may hold value well, not sure about ones heavily modified
if you take in to account how many are modified stock ones with low mileage I imagine will be unicorns
Don't think this model is special enough. Great engine though.....
Logic of m135i/m140i buyers, does it have pro nav? No sorry... OK bye
I’ve had both and don’t see why the pro nav is such a necessity.
@@ScottPC makes the cabin look way better. Business nav looks terrible
No way, far too common - much like the golf R or focus st. It's not special enough.
Something limited edition would be.
Its not how common it is , what hot hatch can you buy with rwd and 6 cylinder? None thats why
That's right - its stands out amongst a sea of generic 2.0 4pots. It's one of a kind, which makes it special
@@rosscaskie9768 bmws for years have had 6 cylinder engines which other manufacturers don't. They're not all classic cars. Still awesome though
@@relentlesspursuit6894 it stands out but not enough to be a classic. Too common. Literally see them daily without fail
@@garns8878 being the only RWD 3.0 6 cyl hatchback keeps values strong and more desirable over the likes of a Golf R etc. The only H/B on sale today with true guaranteed classic status though is the GR Yaris 😎
Ha - ha, so many negative comments..
In the compact hot hatch segment the LCI F20/ F21 are the unique offers with 6 cyl. and RWD (plus the better look after the initial horrid design) ... they can be tunned for drag racing, they can be tunned for track fun, can't see a better alternative!
Everyone can have an opinion tough 😁
Honeslty when the wrap is being removed I would consider get m140i yellow love that colour and black also.
Afraid not, still just a 1 series with an awful wrap. Would be much better stock.
Yes I totally agree that’s why I’m never going to sell mine
A few things to look for which won't be available in the future:
- 3 Door hatch
- 5/6 cylinder
- Manual handbrake
- Accessible ECU (to modify)
Prices should go hopefully go up when people get bored of electric and hybrids!
When fuel prices go up and the performance of electric vehicles overtake dramatically for cheaper. I can't see that happening
but also factor in how many of them will be still kicking about. If very few are left in good shape , then price will inevitably high. There is always going to be an enthusiast wanting petrol turbo I6 engine. It's just how hard will it be to buy one?
@@kamilianos The 140i has too many imperfections for that. As much as I love the car, it's just a 116d with a B58, the new supra has the same engine with the handling mods and interior refineries. M140i sells so often due to the value for money (90% of people say). Without that value for money, you've lost a majority market for it.
When do you think fuel prices will start to noticeably go up in the future based on electrification?
@@tackycomrade 2030 onwards possibly. But that's just a guess
Agree with this, but petrol is going to be about for at least another 30 years.
Not much for petrol heads to be worried about. Tax may be an issue, but they will always want to make money off petrol and diesel.
All Gas/Petrol powered cars will be future classics the way things are going🙄
I think people need to stop worrying about values and just drive and enjoy cars while we can, they’re not meant to make you money. Soon enough we’re going to get taxed to absolute hell to force us into electric cars just like they’ve done in Norway
Haven't finished the video, I am pretty sure the m140i is going to be a classic, the last RWD hot hatch. We are facing an era in which inline 6 are going to become rarer and rarer, finding one in a hothatch is going to become a legend!!!
I rate the wrap mate, looks good. I think those that don’t rate are the type to play it safe and keep everything standard 🤙🏼
Great content Luke, good to see you producing more f20 content. A few RUclipsrs been discussed this topic already, I don’t think 140 is a future collectable. Simply because bmw made too many of them.
But a huge proportion are modified or have serious miles one them because they’re so useable. So it’s inevitable that low mileage stock ones will be future classics. The one and only 3.0 rwd hot hatch
I love this car from 2018 I soon hope to own one it’s on the bucket list really like your videos bud
I think you’re too optimistic. I think that taxing and electrification will kill a lot of what you are talking about. M cars, maybe. M1xxi are amazing but comparison to focus rs isn’t fair. It’s more like 2.5 st rather than rs. They will hold value better but you won’t make money one them as they are too popular.
B58 engine is more of a classic than the 1 series. (Former m140i owner). Engine was brill... car was run of a mill like any other 1 series didn't feel special bar it's performance. You have made yours special but as stock car defo not a future classic.
True. Crap car with a good engine.
What did you get after the M140?
Spot on fantastic engine just didn’t feel special
Hope so as I have got one of the Manual ones
I think this car will go up in price it’s iconic to have 6 cylinder hatch Automatic
Love the car but hate the wrap needs put back to blue
No I have to disagree with you, it will not.
What is gonna become one though is the Alfa Giulia GTAm.
Mass produced cars generally dont become classics.
And what are modern classics?
S22B impreza, Clio Williams, 205 GTI, Escort RS Cosworth, Delta HF Integrale evolution, Renault Alpine 310, and so on.
BMW M3 GT
The cars you have listed have been classics for 15/20 years. In 15 years when the numbers have dropped dramatically on the m140i because most have been written off for one reason or another. They IMO will become a classic 👌
Things like the M140 are probably too many knocking around to be a classic. However I get what he is saying. Maybe they will be an 'affordable' car that people will turn to once they realise how boring electric cars are.
I understand your passion for you car mate👍. I have also high affinity to my M140i x-drive. I try to drive it as long as i can😀
I think a lot more ‘M’ cars from BMW will be future classics, not so sure on the M140i as it’s not an official M car. Great engine though that will be the main thing remembered about these, the B58 is a much better engine than the 48 in the new M135i. The M140i is a great car for the money nowadays but future classic? I’m not so sure.
Bmw has already announced the new m240i will be a b58 straight 6! Which poses a great chance a new m140i could well be a b58 too so the future is bright!
Where were you driving? Roads look great!
brilliant engine, average handling, own a manual one
This. I also own one
been planning on getting a 2nd gen 1 series in 3-5 years for a while now
Anyone has any ideas where can I get my steering car wrapped exactly like Luke’s? Don’t mind travelling at all! I absolutely adore this Alcantara steering wheel but seems like can’t find any places that do it..
A mint unmodified one will be.
Nobody will want one thats be thrashed for most of its life and revved in car parks.
Try and buy an unmodified MK2 RS and they are hard to come by now.
The good think being a boy racer car is that a fair few of them will get crashed which whittles down the numbers
Totally agree with you. Mine is a standard manual except for Bilstein B8 dampers but these can easily be swapped back.
Mine too is totally standard with no mods at all. It's a manual with very low mileage.
As for 'There were too many produced'. You seen the price of Cortinas or original Minis these days? Perhaps even look at at the Mustang. Probably the car most would think of when you say 'classic car' but it was mass produced beyond belief.
Unmodified pristine standard ones are already going up in value. Manual even more likely to hold its value IMO. I am keeping my manual because I love it, if it goes up or holds it’s value then happy days.
No they aren't. Look at ebay used values for 140i are dropping like lead balloon. For example 3 year old cars less than half price... do will drop further in few years no doubt.
@@Blackmamba12345 We buy any car & my local dealer will disagree with you. Been offered £500 less than what I paid for mine a year ago. Several other forum members have sold their cars at higher prices too.
@@AnonymousAndy2 Thats the whole car market though... many on the Golf R forums are doing the exact same... the car market has gone mad.
@@Gr34ters Indeed cos lack of supply for nearly new cars atm. Doesn't matter what make or model ir is. Trouble is only be temporary then these cars will lose value again.
Too many youtubers say they "built this car" no you haven't, you added some mods to it
There's to many around and same to the golf r
Anymore Mk5 gti videos?
if bmw decide to shove the b58 in the f40,make it rear wheel drive,even more aggresive than the f21 and improve the handling,then sadly the f21 will not be a future classic.Nevertheless the f21 is epic
Original C63 had a 6.2L not 6.3L despite the name
Its the other way round mate 🤦🏽♂️
@@juskillz5229 ?? So it was called a C62 AMG and had a 6.3L engine? 😂
@@declancarey1435 no it was a c63 with a 6.3 engine now its only 6.2
Great content. What dash can set up are you running btw mate?
Thank you! It’s a Thinkware F770
Not in that colour scheme it won't 😂
Are you gonna go to caffeine and machine any time soon?
100% they will. Totally agree with you.
I agree with you cause I have one M140i too😊😊
Definitely a great car!
Was looking at the MK2 Focus RS a few years ago and not many for sale now. Prices are going up for most of these older cars now.
Even E46 M3's which were everywhere s few years ago and now hardly any manuals for sale.
I still have no idea what was going through your head when choosing that wrap but nice car still
I think 130i is the modern classic, the one to have. . 3.0l I6 n/a manual rwd, magnesium engine, everything mechanical, hydraulic steering, sounds heavenly and it's super rare. It's the perfect recepie for a classic car. The track width and axle distance is is like a 1M but it's lighter, wich is considered to have the perfect proportions and weight. So yeah...
The M140 will stay desirable in the future without a doubt, like 323ti, 330i E46 or 335i E90/92 are today.
But as you can see on the current prices on these 330i /335i they are not increasing in value !!!
-> they are now traded for ca 30% of the Price of a new car.
The M140 is a great and unique car in the class of hatchbacks,
BUT it’s shape and design is just like a Standard 118i and Not special enough as a Focus RS MK2 or a 1 M Coupé or even a RS3 with its wide fenders.
Even unique V8 M3 are now for sale at around 30-35k, new price was 70-80k: do they lost more than 50% of there value
B58 is at the peak of hatchback engines, 4 or 5 cylinder ones can't compare. Just a matter of time before they become classics. 👍
How much is the raffle for this gonna be? Thanks in advance
How do u know it's being raffled?
@@0mar.1 you'll see
Haha exactly what I was thinking
I can’t see it become a modern classic tbh. Made way to many and not a sort after model like a m car with motorsport heritage. With the mk2 and mk3 rs focus. Mk2 went rallying and won constructors championships. The mk3 didn’t enter anything plus with the early head gasket issues put a downer on the model before it could gain some momentum.
They sold many times more mk3 RS's as Mk2's. The mk3 is a far better car and the nk2 disn't go anywhere near any racing in its standard form, an AWD version that never saw production did.
@@tracktimevideos5164 what does RS stand for ? There’s your answer why the mk3 won’t be considered. It never did any just a marketing ploy to help sell. Look at all the modern classics and there links.
@@chrisreadman4282 blimey, who'd have thunk it eh.... much like 90% of Audi RS cars etc. What do you think 'M' stands for? Marketing ploy as most don't do motorsport.
RS, M, N, GTI, R etc etc is to denote the sporty version of a car, nothing to do with motorsport these days. Stop living in the 80's.
@@tracktimevideos5164 go look at the models of M that hold / go up in value. Only the m3. All the others drop like a stone. Ask yourself why? Gti , rs your right it does denote a sporty model. It’s certain models that become modern classics
@@chrisreadman4282 show me a Ford RS car that hasn't ballooned in value........... i think I'll be waiting a while.
Would the same logic apply to the M240i then (excluding the hatchback bit, obviously!)? Following on some of the logic here it would, especially as I believe they are far rarer!
Neither one of these will increase in value
Not classic , m2 is future classic, I’d be looking at one of them
M2 is never gonna be a classic, bmw has the 1M coupe for this “category”, m2 prices are only going down, 1M prices always went up
Totally agreed
Not with that hideous wrap on it 🤣🤣
At the rate these are crashed and modified, I think low mileage stock ones will hold their value or go up over the next 5 years or so
Old Top gear intro I like it .
I think the seats u used to have.on the m140i should of been put in either the gti or R
Loved the intro !
No. Too common not rare or special enough.
Not in the slightest
a 1 series and the word classic will never go together, so in a nutshell, no 😂
“1M coupe enters the chat”
Damn, y his nose big
Whats the exhaust setup?
Can’t see how people think a golf r to a 140i is a downgrade. 140i is on top in a number of brilliant ways.
I don’t think these cars will become profitable, but I think they will hold their value, so essentially in 10 years they’ll still be around for £25-30k. I for one will be holding onto mine until the day I upgrade. Smashing video and great opinions!
I’d say in 10 years they are about 10-15k
when every car goes electric (if it does) the bmw m14oi will be a rare car because people will try to get it
Sorry, I can't hear you because of the awesome engine and exhaust sounds. 🙏
No
If they're gonna be a classic, like most classic cars, they'll have to be clean, & unmolested ! Sooo, not yours. Doh !!
To all those saying the m140i will not be a classic - I say Austin Maestro.
If an Austin Maestro can do it so can an m140i. It will just take time. In fact given enough time all cars will become classics. Even some of the most ordinary cars - like a 2021 Ford Focus 1.0 will too - just like it’s forerunner has (1960’s Ford Escort 1.1).
No chance, it's just a 1 series with a big engine.
No.
When electric cars take over the petrol will go up and slow 💀 and then the electric cars to charge it up will go up in price and biggest worry it’s up to the owner to dispose the batteries and it’s not going to be cheap buying new ones or getting rid of them
Bought a Manual M140i 3 weeks ago and even bog standard I consistently have a grin on my face, then pop the clutch and kick the arse end out and any crap that's built up over the day just disappears and everything is right in the world. Accept the part when you look like a mental patient laughing to yourself at the traffic lights.
Without even watching the video- YES! Last RWD ICE Hot Hatch, last Inline 6 Hot Hatch. A small, RWD, big meaty engined, manual option, cheapish performance car- we will never see anything like it again!
Nope there was too many made for it to be a future classic.
5 Likes and 2 Dislikes already ? some people just here to hate....take my Like Number 6 :)
Like Mr G has said people are allowed to like or dislike.. or have whatever opinion they like positive or negative. get over it.
Future classic? No.
There's too many about.
However, the value of them will definitely rise. Nothing comes close to how unique they are. They have their flaws without doubt, but it's that uniqueness that will be looked fondly of in a few years.
In todays car world where everything is going AWD, 4 pot 2.0, which personally is boring af, this stands out as something very different and of course with the legislation for 2030 banning ICE sales, I think they will end up being worth a fair bit. Just not a classic.
The only way they will become a classic is if enough idiots who can't handle the power through the rear wheels write enough of them off!
However, a very good video regardless mate!
🤣🤣🤣 classic what? Dream on, there’s about 6 million of the things and let’s face it, it’s hardly an iconic car is it
I think manual version will be a future classic. There are too many autos which are quite boring tbh.
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No