Good video! Few things though, the hoard levels aren't necessarily the same to everyone when they do their hoard to 100. As you can see in the hoard page where stats are, for example your Armor says 54. It is 54 because you have also upgraded your attached kingdom to atleast 14 and that gives 50% to your hoard "base" stats. In your case it's 50% from 36, which brings your total hoard stat 36+18=54 Also, just incase you are interested how the cost of each of treasure dump is determined, it uses this formula: (600 + (200 x CURRENT HOARD LEVEL)) x NUMBER OF TREASURES USED Basically the only variable in the process is your CURRENT hoard level. The gold cost will stay the same per treasure if your hoard level does not upgrade. This can only happen on later levels. What that does mean though is that for example after level 100 the gold cost per treasure is ~20k, but after level 300 the cost per treasure is ~60k, and it gets incredibly expensive to upgrade the hoard with anything else than basically with lamps and elephants, as they actually gain some levels as their XP amount is higher. My point: if someone plans to do Potionless pure factioning, they really should save their high XP treasures, and simply just pay the gold and use Chalices and Rings. Gold can be grinded, treasures not. I upgraded my hoard to 100 using Rings today, as I still have couple delves where I haven't done succesful potionless runs, and they are expensive ones... so I save my higg xp treasures for those. I also planned to do this kind of video but about everything Underworld related, but like always got lazy lol. It is quite a work to try to put my thoughts into a language that I don't speak often haha...
@@honestrob I am a new player so..no..i dont have much gold..even i had i wouldnt..i will burn them into tiny souls then. Thanks for the quick reply. Cheers.
Starting my first delves in the game, currently I'm level 475, but it seems I can only obtain those treasure troops from using my delve shards. Is there another way in the game to get those treasure troops I'm not aware off?
So, Why do I want to do this? I've played for about 5 plus years and have almost entirely avoided the underworld. When you add treasure don't the delves get harder? I like them to be under level 100 for ease of play. What is the advantage of leveling up in the underworld?
Renown in the underworld translates to more stat boost to all your troops, plus it'll be a steady and daily supply of ingots to upgrade your weapons. And a bit of gold, too. Oh, and every faction in the underworld has a set of troops only available from there that you'll need to unlock using shards you get from delving. So, lots of advantages, really. Also, it's a good idea to keep one faction at level 20 or 30 (but still hoard level 100) for easy and quick farming of beforementioned shards 'n stuff.
@@lindenhoch8396 Thank you. What is a faction team? It, reads something about using a faction team when you look at the underworld stats. Too bad for me but a lot of the underworlds cities are 100 or more. I had no idea what I was doing when leveling them up I guess.
@@adamcarter6862 Not so bad, it's the goal to make them to lv 500 after all, so you're good 🙂. But to get there you also need to boost the hoard levels as much as you can, since it will boost the stats in that faction dramatically, needed to make the higher level battles. Leaving one faction at a low level just ensures you always have a go to easy way to get shards to get the faction troops...the faction team is a team of all/only that particular faction troops. Hope it helps 👍
@@lindenhoch8396 Yes, thank you. this game has a lot of unknown elements to it. I have like 1000 different troops and its very hard to put together strong teams. Getting help from people who have figured it out is very helpful. Thank you.
@@adamcarter6862 Yes, very much so. You really should join a guild, if not already. It'll boost your skills and you'll get plenty of resources. And in a good guild you can draw on the experience of 29 other players for advice.
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Good video! Few things though, the hoard levels aren't necessarily the same to everyone when they do their hoard to 100. As you can see in the hoard page where stats are, for example your Armor says 54. It is 54 because you have also upgraded your attached kingdom to atleast 14 and that gives 50% to your hoard "base" stats. In your case it's 50% from 36, which brings your total hoard stat 36+18=54
Also, just incase you are interested how the cost of each of treasure dump is determined, it uses this formula:
(600 + (200 x CURRENT HOARD LEVEL)) x NUMBER OF TREASURES USED
Basically the only variable in the process is your CURRENT hoard level. The gold cost will stay the same per treasure if your hoard level does not upgrade. This can only happen on later levels. What that does mean though is that for example after level 100 the gold cost per treasure is ~20k, but after level 300 the cost per treasure is ~60k, and it gets incredibly expensive to upgrade the hoard with anything else than basically with lamps and elephants, as they actually gain some levels as their XP amount is higher. My point: if someone plans to do Potionless pure factioning, they really should save their high XP treasures, and simply just pay the gold and use Chalices and Rings. Gold can be grinded, treasures not. I upgraded my hoard to 100 using Rings today, as I still have couple delves where I haven't done succesful potionless runs, and they are expensive ones... so I save my higg xp treasures for those.
I also planned to do this kind of video but about everything Underworld related, but like always got lazy lol. It is quite a work to try to put my thoughts into a language that I don't speak often haha...
Good info, and you do really well considering English is not your native language 👍
So glad you attached this video to the new nightmare delve video! Thank you!!
Yes I thought some people would like to see the 'full version' of this method, glad it helped! 🙂
Thanks for this. Very handy to know 👍
Glad it helped
Great video, thanks. Is there any uses of those "coin purses" and "gold rings" in the game anywhere?
They are almost useless. You can drop them into the upgrade Hoard when you have so much gold you don't mind being inefficient with it :-)
@@honestrob I am a new player so..no..i dont have much gold..even i had i wouldnt..i will burn them into tiny souls then. Thanks for the quick reply. Cheers.
@@honestrob I think i ffound a way to use of them even i am gonna trait them..lol..for gold farming with Elspeth..^^..
Once you have all your delves at 100 you can liquidate them for souls
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5x Chalice, 5x Chalice, 5x Chalice, 4x Crown, 4x Crown, 1 Lamp / 2 Crown / 1 Chalice, 1 Sacred / 2 Lamp, 2 Sacred, 2 Sacred.
Starting my first delves in the game, currently I'm level 475, but it seems I can only obtain those treasure troops from using my delve shards. Is there another way in the game to get those treasure troops I'm not aware off?
No, just keep plugging away at the Delves and gaining Shards. Faction Assaults will give you more Shards, but its all about steady progress really 🙂
@@honestrob Thanks for the reply, grinding it will be 😅
@@wimvancoillie3036 All good! 🙂
I am so sad. I have wasted so much money on this the wrong way
Everyone makes mistakes in this game, and at least you know now 🙂
So, Why do I want to do this? I've played for about 5 plus years and have almost entirely avoided the underworld. When you add treasure don't the delves get harder? I like them to be under level 100 for ease of play.
What is the advantage of leveling up in the underworld?
Renown in the underworld translates to more stat boost to all your troops, plus it'll be a steady and daily supply of ingots to upgrade your weapons. And a bit of gold, too. Oh, and every faction in the underworld has a set of troops only available from there that you'll need to unlock using shards you get from delving. So, lots of advantages, really. Also, it's a good idea to keep one faction at level 20 or 30 (but still hoard level 100) for easy and quick farming of beforementioned shards 'n stuff.
@@lindenhoch8396 Thank you. What is a faction team? It, reads something about using a faction team when you look at the underworld stats.
Too bad for me but a lot of the underworlds cities are 100 or more. I had no idea what I was doing when leveling them up I guess.
@@adamcarter6862 Not so bad, it's the goal to make them to lv 500 after all, so you're good 🙂. But to get there you also need to boost the hoard levels as much as you can, since it will boost the stats in that faction dramatically, needed to make the higher level battles. Leaving one faction at a low level just ensures you always have a go to easy way to get shards to get the faction troops...the faction team is a team of all/only that particular faction troops. Hope it helps 👍
@@lindenhoch8396 Yes, thank you. this game has a lot of unknown elements to it.
I have like 1000 different troops and its very hard to put together strong teams. Getting help from people who have figured it out is very helpful. Thank you.
@@adamcarter6862 Yes, very much so. You really should join a guild, if not already. It'll boost your skills and you'll get plenty of resources. And in a good guild you can draw on the experience of 29 other players for advice.