Cast Iron vs Enameled Cast Iron: Which is Better? | Gear Heads

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @Thi-Nguyen
    @Thi-Nguyen 2 месяца назад +93

    My mom’s cast iron skillet is so old we don’t know the brand. It came from my adopted grandmother who was born in the late 1890s. It was passed down to her from her mother who got it from HER mother. It goes back four generations from my grandmother’s mother. That should make it close to if not 200 years old today.

    • @briannadickson2884
      @briannadickson2884 2 месяца назад +7

      WHOA! 😮

    • @cseggerman
      @cseggerman 2 месяца назад

      Look up websites on "No Name Cast Iron"-- apologies if you have already. I used this to ID some from my Grandmother, but they were not that old.

    • @DSmith-gs4tr
      @DSmith-gs4tr 2 месяца назад +6

      Same here, and still reliable as the day it was made.

    • @ZepG
      @ZepG 2 месяца назад +8

      Just the thought of how many family meals were cooked in it makes it even more special.

    • @Thi-Nguyen
      @Thi-Nguyen 2 месяца назад +8

      @@ZepG yes… just thinking about how much my mom used it alone is heartwarming. To think it goes back nearly 200 years… 200 years’ worth of family meals prepared and enjoyed… 🥹

  • @paullukis3315
    @paullukis3315 2 месяца назад +356

    One day my bones will be dust, but my Lodge pan will still be making eggs and bacon.

    • @foxgloved1
      @foxgloved1 2 месяца назад +11

      My Wagner 🖤that belonged to my great grandmother

    • @workingguy-OU812
      @workingguy-OU812 2 месяца назад +8

      My Griswolds and my Lodge - though I took a flap-disk on an angle-grinder to the surface of the Lodge first. It was really rough.

    • @jandereski6904
      @jandereski6904 2 месяца назад +2

      Absolutely!!! That's the only way to treat these pans. Only NOW are my pans totally non stick!

    • @mermaidstears4897
      @mermaidstears4897 2 месяца назад +8

      I still have my great-grandmother’s cast iron skillet😊

    • @paullukis3315
      @paullukis3315 2 месяца назад

      I want to grind mine down, but I have them all non-stick already. I guess it is a question of how much effort I want to put in.

  • @jstones9872
    @jstones9872 2 месяца назад +187

    honestly, save the enameled for your dutch ovens and use a combination of cast iron and high quality 5 ply or more stainless steel for everything else

    • @louisel.sinniger2057
      @louisel.sinniger2057 2 месяца назад +4

      @@jstones9872 yep, that’s what I do and have been doing for years

    • @Niftynorm1
      @Niftynorm1 2 месяца назад +22

      Don't waste your money on the 5 ply stainless. ATK has tested them and found no improvement over 3 ply, just more $$$.

    • @jstones9872
      @jstones9872 2 месяца назад +10

      @@Niftynorm1 if your using an induction cooktop thicker and heavier works best. My Demeyere cookware works spectacular on the induction cooktop. T 3 ply not so much.

    • @jonslg240
      @jonslg240 2 месяца назад +1

      Lisa has an even more in-depth guide to stripping.
      I didn't say it, the host did in the last part of the video 😂

    • @jonslg240
      @jonslg240 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@jstones9872 I normally don't trust people who don't know how to use "you're," but I trust you as you're correct.
      5 ply will have more even heat distribution.. but only if it has more weight.
      For example: a 4lb 3ply pan will be about the same as a 4lb 5ply pan. So make sure it has more weight.
      In fact a 5lb 3ply pan will be better than a 4lb 5ply pan.

  • @krumbergify
    @krumbergify 2 месяца назад +11

    Thank you so much for this! I regularly oil my cast iron pans, but I used to do it when they were cold! Putting the oil on when they are still hot makes a world of difference! They are really non-stick now!

  • @pennylehrer1306
    @pennylehrer1306 2 месяца назад +18

    Great info on cleaning and maintaining. I use traditional. Bought it at a thrift store and using over 50 yrs!!

  • @Quekens
    @Quekens 2 месяца назад +9

    I love my 10 in lodge pan. I bought it brand new a couple of years ago and after using metal utensils on it almost every day - it’s really smoothed out! I have found that using coffee filters to oil them up after a wash/dry is helpful since there’s minimal lint and it’s super cheap. Another helpful tool is Lodge’s rust remover eraser, it helps so you could tackle small rust spots instead of stripping the whole pan. 🍳

  • @kimarmstrong9161
    @kimarmstrong9161 2 месяца назад +37

    I love my Le Creuset, but we use my grandma's cast iron skillet EVERY DAY! ❤ Good job, Val!!

  • @jimglatthaar4053
    @jimglatthaar4053 2 месяца назад +28

    As someone who has been cooking with cast iron for over 12 years, and who has a large number of vintage (of varying weights and sizes), modern and artisan pans, I agree with some of your recommendations. I have found that both lighter vintage and artisan pans, when properly used, produce a good sear and even browning equal to that of heavier cans but are easier to cook with. I use the reverse sear method for cooking a steak and frequently use a vintage Griswold skillet for the task.
    I don't recommend using flaxseed oil as, over time, it tends to flake off and ends up in cooked foods. I prefer using Grapeseed or Avocado oil to season. I have even made my own seasoning paste with a combination of high heat oils and locally sourced beeswax, which gives artisan skillets a darker, more black seasoning layer than the bronze color the artisan skillets, and even some old vintage skillets, come in.

    • @TheKnifeSurgeon
      @TheKnifeSurgeon 2 месяца назад +8

      Came here to complain about the flax oil recommendation. Hard for me to believe they’ve actually done the testing or they would know. It was a rollercoaster of annoyance, that time after I heard about the magic bulletproof flax seed seasoning that you could even put in the dishwasher (not that I ever tried)! Doesn’t even hold up to normal use. Ive had fantastic luck with rice bran oil along with grape seed.

    • @TheCharleseye
      @TheCharleseye 2 месяца назад +2

      ANother vote for not using flaxseed oil. I'd recommend pretty much any other common cooking oil over flaxseed. Currently, I'm using avocado oil because I have a big jug of Marianne's but grapeseed oil is definitely right up there with it.

    • @julieobrien4056
      @julieobrien4056 2 месяца назад

      Is grape seed different than rapeseed oil?

    • @TheCharleseye
      @TheCharleseye 2 месяца назад +3

      @@julieobrien4056 Yes.

    • @julieobrien4056
      @julieobrien4056 2 месяца назад

      @@TheCharleseye Thank you!! 😊

  • @philoctetes_wordsworth
    @philoctetes_wordsworth 2 месяца назад +71

    5:46 As I understand, the crazing occurs when the enameled cast iron is heated too quickly. Le Creuset instructs that one never, ever start them on anything but medium.

    • @m.f.3347
      @m.f.3347 2 месяца назад +18

      Yes. Iron expands faster than enamel, which is very brittle. If you apply too much heat too quickly the enamel will crack from the pressure exerted by iron's expansion

    • @paulj.l.9696
      @paulj.l.9696 2 месяца назад +5

      Anything BUT medium? I start mine on low all the time...

    • @jonslg240
      @jonslg240 2 месяца назад +1

      *PRO-TIPS: Scrub that nasty pre-seasoning off any cast iron you buy, then season it yourself*
      The artisan cast iron pans (pan#2, 5x the price of pan1) have a flatter surface, which leads to more sticking the same way race cars use "slicks" for tires. However they will become non-stick with about 50% of the oil used in a plain one. But you should be using avocado oil to begin with, which is healthy.
      *MAJOR TIP 3 DO NOT BUY "GLASS COATED" (or ceramic coated) CAST IRON PANS AS THAT GLASS ALWAYS CRACKS AND CRACKS TONS, MAKING THEM SUPER STICKY, AND PUTTING FINE GLASS PIECES IN YOUR FOOD.*
      Don't take my word for all this, watch the video again instead. They admit everything except the downsides of the "artisan" cast iron pans.

    • @jonslg240
      @jonslg240 2 месяца назад +1

      Also the "crazing" (cracking?) Doesn't happen much when you heat it fast. It happens when it cools, and there's nothing you can do about it.
      If you let them slowly cool the glass layer cracks. If you cool them even faster it happens even more.
      The ONLY way it doesn't happen is if you keep turning your burner off and on to cool it extremely slow as you babysit it for at least 20 minutes but probably an hour.
      Remember ATK is an advertising agency first and foremost, and only cooks good recipes because it helps them advertise.
      Overall though they do tell the truth, just sometimes they try to minimize those truths like in this vid slightly and other vids extremely.

    • @SargonDragon
      @SargonDragon 2 месяца назад +5

      @@jonslg240 "...have a flatter surface, which leads to more sticking the same way race cars use "slicks" for tires." This is completely BS. You understand neither how cast iron works nor how race tires work. In fact, pretty much everything you've written in your two comments above is made up BS.

  • @karenroot450
    @karenroot450 2 месяца назад +33

    My favorite cast iron skillet is a 14 inch Wagner Ware my mom left me! It makes the Best fried potatoes and onions! The absolute Best pineapple upside down cake!!

    • @SB-xz6kz
      @SB-xz6kz 2 месяца назад +4

      Nothing beats vintage.

    • @SueK2001
      @SueK2001 2 месяца назад +3

      I have a very old Wagner too and it’s honestly the best.❤

    • @FlintBits
      @FlintBits 2 месяца назад +1

      found the midwest section of the comments.

  • @kenchester3072
    @kenchester3072 17 дней назад +1

    My wife uses a Lodge 10 inch cast iron skillet. I have a 120 year old Erie 10 inch. Recently I found 5 cast iron skillets at the dump needing cleaning they ranged in size from 12 inch to 6 inch. I soaked them in a 5 gallon bucket of water with a can of Red Devil lye mixed in over the following couple weeks with some wire brushing, they were clean. I wore two layers of chemical gloves while cleaning the pans. Then I seasoned them with peanut oil. The results were outstanding, now we have a portfolio of cast iron skillets to use.

  • @louisel.sinniger2057
    @louisel.sinniger2057 2 месяца назад +14

    I have 3 lodge pans and I love them. When I have to cleans some tough gunk I soak the pan with really HOT water, let it sit for no longer than 10 minutes, scrub with (your winning scrub sponge) and that’s all there is to it. I dry the pan right away, plus let the pan air out for a few more minutes then season lightly. So far so good. Thanks

    • @mariaconsuelothomen
      @mariaconsuelothomen 2 месяца назад

      I thought seasoning a cast iron skillet was more complicated.

    • @louisel.sinniger2057
      @louisel.sinniger2057 2 месяца назад

      @@mariaconsuelothomen No, seasoning is not difficult. I’ve even immersed my cast iron pans in warm to hot water for cleaning. As long as you thoroughly dry them, heat them a little (warm) then coat them with a wiping of cooking oil you should be good to go. That’s what I’ve always done and I’ve had my cookware for years. Even used them on camping trips. Good luck.

    • @mariaconsuelothomen
      @mariaconsuelothomen 2 месяца назад +1

      @@louisel.sinniger2057 I had an enamel skillet in France, and to dry it, I used to turn on a burner and put the skillet on it just enough time to dry off the water.

    • @sharonbrooks1545
      @sharonbrooks1545 Месяц назад

      HELP. I bought a 6 inch cast Iron skillet from your company. I scrubbed it with Brillo. It took the enamel off the bottom. Can I still use it or throw it away? I bought it from Cooks.

  • @AnEpicNguyen
    @AnEpicNguyen 2 месяца назад +5

    Val did a great job. That’s essentially how I season my cast irons. It’s not a perfect seasoning (still rough and ngl craggy) but it’s never rusted.

  • @booneflagrllizzieb813
    @booneflagrllizzieb813 2 месяца назад +4

    Yes please! More info/videos on a deep-clean for my old cast iron! Very Needed!! Thank you! Love the gearheads series!

    • @drjsmajor
      @drjsmajor 2 месяца назад

      If you REALLY want to remove all the seasoning, just put it in your oven and run the self clean cycle. Then get it out and re-season. The self clean cycle will remove all or nearly all the old seasoning.

  • @aaronbailey23
    @aaronbailey23 2 месяца назад +8

    Surprised you recommended flaxseed oil. From my experience, it would not stay on very well. Lots of cracking and chipping. The most important aspect of the oil is the smoke point. It needs to be lower than the heat you are applying for polymerization. This is why I prefer seasoning in the oven for better temperature control. I like using canola or even extra virgin olive oil. But I’d recommend everyone try different types for themselves to see what works best.

    • @dstroma
      @dstroma 2 месяца назад +1

      I've tried seasoning on the stove and it just doesn't work. Either it doesn't get hot enough, or it gets too hot and the seasoning just burns right off. Or even both happen at the same time because there is a hot spot in the middle while the outside is cooler.

    • @aaronbailey23
      @aaronbailey23 2 месяца назад +1

      @@dstroma completely agree. Doesn’t work for me either.

    • @andrewaltrichter5973
      @andrewaltrichter5973 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@dstroma after spending a few years following the cast iron groups on Reddit, I'm convinced that there is no one right way to season. Everyone has a favorite method and at least one that they swear just doesn't work. Never the same from two different people though. The quirks of everyone's different techniques and equipment seem to make different methods work better or worse for them individually.

  • @SB-xz6kz
    @SB-xz6kz 2 месяца назад +8

    I have a almost 100 year old Puritan non enamelled cast iron Dutch oven and cook everything in it, even things that “shouldn’t be done” in it. Haven’t had any problems. Wouldn’t want an enamelled Dutch oven only because I’d always be worried about chipping. All my cast iron has been in the family for 4 generations now and wouldn’t trade it for anything.

  • @yb5515
    @yb5515 2 месяца назад +116

    Enamel lasts many years, cast iron lasts many generations.

    • @Lancers262
      @Lancers262 2 месяца назад +8

      I find it crazy how these manufacturers stay in business. They produce products that last a very long time. I guess the reason is because people underestimate the maintenance that cast iron requires so they get tossed out.

    • @yb5515
      @yb5515 2 месяца назад +6

      @@Lancers262 And of course with a growing population every new household wants their own kitchen ware. Only a few want their parents old stuff even if it is perfectly usable.

    • @user-vv1qf1jk4z
      @user-vv1qf1jk4z 2 месяца назад +6

      @@Lancers262 To be fair every other heritage cast iron American company went out of business. And a lot of pieces were thrown out like you said in favor of non-stick. It's only recently that cast iron has seen a major resurgence.

    • @oldcowbb
      @oldcowbb 2 месяца назад

      @@Lancers262 this is why they keep introducing these coating based pan, all designed to be obsolete

    • @opwave79
      @opwave79 2 месяца назад +2

      Still can’t cook a proper bolognese in cast iron, no matter how many centuries old it is

  • @jpiazzola2853
    @jpiazzola2853 2 месяца назад +1

    I have Lodge and Staub skillets. I love both but making tomato sauce definitely calls for the Staub with the glass glazing. Seasoning the Lodge can become an obsessive activity and be a lot of fun. I've stripped and reasoned mine just for fun sometimes. I also have a 100 yr old skillet that belonged to my mother, which was purchased at Montgomery Ward and is as good as new. In those days mass produced skillets were polished somewhat so this one is considerably lighter than modern day Lodge skillets. It's a smooth as glass and my go to pan for a lot of things. I love it and am very sentimental about it. I'm 82yrs old so almost as old as the pan but not in near as good shape 😂😂😂

  • @ltellis63
    @ltellis63 2 месяца назад +9

    Would love to see a full restore/reseason video for cast iron!

    • @DSmith-gs4tr
      @DSmith-gs4tr 2 месяца назад +1

      Kent Rollins has a couple videos demonstrating both. Check him out.

    • @TheOtherBill
      @TheOtherBill 2 месяца назад

      As Hannah mentioned in the video: see Lisa's article on the website, just search for "seasoning cast iron".

  • @kimlindseyOH
    @kimlindseyOH 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks Hannah! I've been meaning to get a larger cast iron pan - perfect timing for this video!
    Welcome to Gear Heads, Val! Great tips!

  • @jcavenagh
    @jcavenagh 17 дней назад

    We stumbled onto Lodge pans without really knowing much about them. We were young without a lot do-re-mi, but didn't want cheap teflon pans. I remembered my Mom had a cast iron pan and I found one at a demo sale in the basement of the local VFW one Saturday morning. We were so pleased with the results that we eventually bought a whole set with 5 different size pans and 2 sizes of flat griddles. It has been about 25 years and they all have a wonderful seasoning.

  • @maryanngarrimone1153
    @maryanngarrimone1153 Месяц назад

    We used cast iron skillets when I was growing up. My grandma used them them, too! I've purchased lots of the Lodge cast iron pans over the years. I'm 76 yrs old and hope my grandchildren will take these pans after I pass away.

  • @jodiwright4920
    @jodiwright4920 2 месяца назад +3

    Great info! I would like to add a fourth option of buying an old skillet and restoring it if needed. Those are my favorite and less expensive most of the time.

    • @BradiKal61
      @BradiKal61 2 месяца назад

      I picked up a rusty cast iron skillet from someones GARBAGE and cleaned it up and seasoned it in 2 hours.
      Today I see Aldi had a heavy 10" skillet for $10.

    • @the_rzh
      @the_rzh 2 месяца назад

      It's hard to beat a new $20 lodge pan unless your getting your restoration candidate for free. Vintage cast Iron with any of the famous names is very expensive. I've seen warped and rusting griswolds going for $50 and up.

  • @TheMrFarkle
    @TheMrFarkle Месяц назад

    I never had a problem with cast iron, including my grandmother's lightweight skillet (80 years old). Then I bought a carbon steel pan. I never could season it to be non-stick, no matter which method I used. I tried more than 15 times. I finally found that it cooked pretty well at no more than medium-low. I stick with my small cast iron skillets almost all the time. Such is life. I love ATK, Cook's Country, and the Gear Heads!

  • @fullerdav
    @fullerdav 24 дня назад

    I love these videos. I learned the hard way that having the right gear makes a huge difference.

  • @markburton5318
    @markburton5318 2 месяца назад +9

    I have cast iron, carbon steel and enamelled cast iron, as well as stainless steel. Enamel is the most sticky by far, carbon steel the most non-stick. I rarely use the enamelled skillet any more, but I do use enamelled Dutch oven. I would not buy enamelled skillet again.

    • @fancyoo8670
      @fancyoo8670 Месяц назад

      I have all also plus a granite pan.. i use the granite pan the most . I season it similar to cast iron. I'm still learning how to properly use cast iron. I tried grilling a steak. Let the steak rest 1 hour, preheated the pan until water drops danced not couldn't get a good sear. It's beautifully seasoned but a frustrating lodge grill pan

    • @deeholm1644
      @deeholm1644 Месяц назад

      Gave away my carbon steel skillet that I could not get seasoned evenly. I have a convection oven that even at 450 just was not happy with the results!
      I do season my old 8” cast iron skillet on the stove-medium heat for three minutes with olive oil seems to work for me.

    • @markburton5318
      @markburton5318 Месяц назад

      @@deeholm1644 A highly polyunsaturated fat is best for seasoning. These fatty acids form the chains that make the hard nonstick coating. Flax oil is considered best but grape and sunflower are good. Olive oil is mostly monounsaturated.
      My carbon steel skillet is perfectly nonstick but my wok is not. It just won’t keep a good surface. It basically requires a quick heat to smoke point every time I use it. 🤷

  • @brendaf1033
    @brendaf1033 2 месяца назад +2

    I have Lodge, my great aunt's old Ware 9" skillet but I LOVE my Field cast iron skillets. My enameled cast iron are dutch ovens (LeCreuset). I use some form of cast iron everyday and rarely use stainless steel.

  • @ronalddevine9587
    @ronalddevine9587 2 месяца назад +8

    I inherited my aunt's chrome plated cast iron pans that she bought in the early 1940s. They are priceless.

    • @AlwaysLisaLisa
      @AlwaysLisaLisa 2 месяца назад

      Whut! Never seen those Looking it up now!

    • @ronalddevine9587
      @ronalddevine9587 2 месяца назад +1

      @@AlwaysLisaLisa
      They were made by GRISWOLD

    • @philipmarsh842
      @philipmarsh842 2 месяца назад +1

      If you can get vintage from your family that is awesome! I picked up a chrome #5 Griswold LBL, and a #6 Wagner from someone who was getting rid of her mothers pans 😢

  • @jillbeans1573
    @jillbeans1573 2 месяца назад +3

    I have gotten older, and my wrists no longer enjoy the heavier pans. I have passed down all of my larger Le Creuset pots and all of my regular cast iron except for my great grandfather's grill pan.
    I have kept the smaller Le Creuset pans because they weigh less, and they require minimal maintenance.

  • @Bards.98
    @Bards.98 2 месяца назад +8

    Oh wow, the timing!! I am at the moment with a enameled cast iron skillet in my hand wondering if i should buy it

    • @angelbulldog4934
      @angelbulldog4934 2 месяца назад +4

      My experience? Yes. I enjoy my LeCreuset very much and use it every day.

    • @angelbulldog4934
      @angelbulldog4934 2 месяца назад +2

      Didn't know about the artisan pan but I have cast iron and LeCreuset and get great results from each. Sometimes it depends on the food. A steak or burger will be in a screaming hot cast iron. Sautéing chicken breasts will be done in LeCreuset.

    • @yb5515
      @yb5515 2 месяца назад +5

      Enamel lasts many years, cast iron lasts many generations.

    • @Bards.98
      @Bards.98 2 месяца назад +5

      @@yb5515 good enough for me, no need to last more than 50 years xD

    • @willjay916
      @willjay916 2 месяца назад +1

      Yes. If you're going to make long simmered acidic foods. I make a tomato based chicken and rice that I'm just not comfortable making in the Lodge 12" pan.

  • @barbaracampagna8047
    @barbaracampagna8047 2 месяца назад +1

    Hi ladies. We love both Artisanal (just treated ourselves to a 10” Smithey - love it!) and have been Lodge users for years. Love the way they fry, sauté, and adore the non-stick surface.

  • @Ambimom
    @Ambimom 2 месяца назад +1

    I had a cheap (not Lodge) cast iron skillet that I used almost daily for about 15 years that was so well seasoned, eggs glided off. I washed it in soap and water with no problem. Often cooked tomatoes in it. One fateful day it slipped out of my hands onto my kitchen floor and to my utter dismay it actually broke in two pieces. Apparently, cast iron is brittle and can break if the impact is strong enough. My pans are almost exclusively cast iron. I have found that using them several times a week or more keeps them well-seasoned. I've never oil them after use. I wash them in soap and water, scrape any food residue with a plastic scraper, kosher salt or wire brush and make sure they're dry by placing them on a gas burner until they start to smoke. I've found if I oil them instead, they get all sticky which I don't like.

  • @philipmarsh842
    @philipmarsh842 2 месяца назад +2

    I started with Lodge pans, started using them more over non stick, then stopped using non stick all together and went to all cast iron pans, I have a nice selection with vintage Griswold and Wagner, and then modern Field, Smithey, Stargazer, and Finex.

  • @DogDongDotCom
    @DogDongDotCom Месяц назад

    I tried the Lodge Cast Iron for a few months, but it wasn't for me. Bought a set of Le Creuset and could not be happier. Easy to clean, lighter, and just looks better. I tend to buy a new set every 3 years so duration was never an issue, also never understood why people are so proud to have old cast irons.

  • @TheCharleseye
    @TheCharleseye 2 месяца назад +2

    As someone who owns (what many would consider) a lot of cast iron, let me add some perspective. When she says it will take longer to make a Lodge nonstick than it does a Smithey, that's true. However, it's not $150 worth of time. The fastest I've ever made a Lodge nonstick was a week. The slowest was two months, because I didn't use it as often. I have a Lodge 10" comal that was completely hydrophobic within three weeks. It's still one of my favorite breakfast pans. I got a Smithey to the point of nonstick within three days, once. Considering I'll have these pans the rest of my life and pass them on to my children, the time difference is nothing. Smithey makes a great pan but I wouldn't bother spending the money on one unless you happen to have expendable income. There isn't a single thing I can cook on a Smithey that I can't cook on a Lodge.
    As for enameled cast iron, it has its place but not as a pan. An enameled dutch oven is an amazing tool and I highly recommend one for every kitchen. However, you have to be much more careful with them. If you scratch the seasoning on a regular cast iron dutch oven or pan, it heals itself while you cook. If you scratch an enameled dutch oven or pan, it's ruined and you have to throw it out.
    Edit: Also, you almost never need to re-season cast iron, if you're cleaning and storing it properly. If the seasoning starts to look uneven, you have an excuse to make something like a batch of skillet cornbread or a skillet pizza. Your seasoning will even out and you'll have a delicious treat. Otherwise, just cook with it. Our ancestors didn't spend time dithering over slight imperfections in their seasoning and many of their pans are still around today. I know. I've had a bunch of them.

  • @belindadunne4312
    @belindadunne4312 2 месяца назад +3

    We'd like to see Lisa's in depth oven method. Great job Hannah!!

    • @hannahcrowley2030
      @hannahcrowley2030 2 месяца назад

      I was thinking we should take folks through the whole process, thanks for the feedback!

  • @wildealien
    @wildealien 2 месяца назад +1

    I bought a Lodge and did the polishing myself.
    Grapeseed Oil is the best for seasoning, IME.

  • @jpe1
    @jpe1 Месяц назад

    For those who worry about damaging glass induction cooktops with cast iron pans: put a silicone baking sheet down on the cooktop, and cook on that. The silicone is good to like 600°F, and the induction magnetic fields can still easily reach the pan.

  • @liddybird3608
    @liddybird3608 2 месяца назад +3

    I prefer my antique Wagner. It has a very smooth inside, like most older pans do.

    • @hannahcrowley2030
      @hannahcrowley2030 2 месяца назад

      There's a reason they cost a fortune in vintage shops. They're amazing!

  • @gigivarnum
    @gigivarnum 2 месяца назад +30

    If you need to strip all the seasoning off, you can spray your pan with yellow cap Easy Off oven cleaner (Mr. Muscle in the UK), and wrap it up in a garbage bag for a few hours or up to overnight.
    The active ingredient in oven cleaner - sodium hydroxide (also called lye or caustic soda, depending where you live) - has a very high pH, and will dissolve fatty acids - even polymerized ones - into soap and glycerin molecules. Fun fact: the legal definition of soap is "the alkalized salts of fatty acids". A soak in Easy Off will essentially turn the seasoning on your skillet into soap.
    Since humans are also partially comprised of organic fats, be sure to wear kitchen gloves when handling a pan coated in oven cleaner, and avoid inhaling any fumes. Unlike in actual soapmaking, not all the sodium hydroxide will be catalysed during a soak with a chunkily-seasoned pan. Even though Easy Off only contains 2.5-5% sodium hydroxide (about the same percentage used in lye baths for traditional pretzel- and bagel-making to raise the pH of the dough's surface which accelerates browning, and in certain professional hair relaxer treatments, as well; MUCH lower than the 25-50% solution used for saponification, or the 100% pure crystals sold as drain cleaner at your local hardware store), you probably don't need or want to give your hands an inadvertant chemical peel to accompany your freshly cleaned skillet!

    • @mimosveta
      @mimosveta 2 месяца назад +1

      or you can just pop them in the oven, highest temperature, for 30 minutes - 1 hour, and then wash the ash off. the seasoning will burn off

    • @gigivarnum
      @gigivarnum 2 месяца назад +5

      ​@@mimosveta well, you *can*, but exposing iron to very high temps for an extended period of time is probably a lot harder on the metal itself than a lye bath. Cast Iron Collectors, and other CI groups I've joined specifically to find out how best to accomplish this goal, do NOT recommend using high heat to strip accumulated seasoning build-ups, but they *do* recommend using a lye bath. So... You do you, I guess.

    • @gigivarnum
      @gigivarnum 2 месяца назад +2

      @@path4061 oh, you mean like the hottest setting on a home oven, the self-clean cycle? O.o

    • @sarak.2440
      @sarak.2440 2 месяца назад

      Hello! I have a used airfryer that is honestly a mess on the inside. Do you happen to know if this lye method will work for cleaning it, or will it strip more than the fat buildup and ruin whatever coating the basket has?

    • @gigivarnum
      @gigivarnum 2 месяца назад +3

      @@sarak.2440 oven cleaner is not recommended for aluminum or plastic surfaces, or nondescript/unspecified metals, or nonstick coated surfaces. The parts of your air fryer that are actual stainless steel would be okay, but most toaster ovens and air fryers would be ruined by oven cleaner.

  • @tigerr830
    @tigerr830 2 месяца назад

    I have a Lodge, it was my first cast iron and has held up well for years. I’ve made many cooking mistakes including a grease fire but it recovers from all of them. I’m a fan

  • @theoriginalbridgetconnors
    @theoriginalbridgetconnors 2 месяца назад +2

    I have my great grandmother's cast iron skillet that was made in the mid 1860s. I will give it up when you can pry it from my cold dead hand, and maybe not even then!

  • @deewonda1952
    @deewonda1952 2 месяца назад

    GREAT video!! I LOVE my 12” cast iron pan and now I know how to keep it well seasoned. Thank you!!😊

  • @Niftynorm1
    @Niftynorm1 2 месяца назад +14

    I think a lesson in stripping and proper seasoning of cast iron pans would be a great idea. Also an explanation of using Flax seed oil to season cast iron as it has a very low smoke point vs many other traditional oils would be helpful. Great information and also comments too. Good job Val.

    • @drjsmajor
      @drjsmajor 2 месяца назад

      my stripping lesson, put it in your oven and run the self clean cycle with the pan in there. Very easy. Then fry bacon in there. Follow the seasoning instructions only use bacon and not flax seed oil. simple and easy.

  • @katetrabue
    @katetrabue 2 месяца назад +1

    Still using my mom's 60 year old 12" cast iron skillet. Love all my cast iron.

  • @marie-angebrun7079
    @marie-angebrun7079 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks!! You just save me a lot of $$$, I did want to buy a le Creuset, but I'm a really rough cook! I'll stick to my cast iron pans , I love taking care of them, after cooking!

  • @texasnurse
    @texasnurse 2 месяца назад +3

    The first kitchen ware I bought about 50 years ago was a set of cast iron skillets. They were a cheap set, but have aged well. I also inherited my grandmother's cast iron and rescued a couple more from my mother who used SOS pads on them. She just didn't deserve to own cast iron. Those old pans are slick and don't stick.

  • @JourneymanActor
    @JourneymanActor 2 месяца назад +2

    Lodge now has a Made in USA enameled cast iron skillet. Would like to see a Lodge vs. Le Creuset. 👍

  • @marymcmann9546
    @marymcmann9546 2 месяца назад +1

    My grandmas and mom always had cast iron to cook in. My Mom had a cast iron pan with 3 inch sides, more like a Dutch oven. She cooked everything in it. It was so heavy but even into her 90’s she could sling that pan like it weighed nothing. I called it her weight training pan.

  • @agold1702
    @agold1702 2 месяца назад +1

    We love and use our Lodge pans a lot. If I do some heavy duty cooking or frying I wash it in hot soap and water. If there is stuck on food I gently/light scrape it off.* Rinse. Dry. Then add a little oil and store it away for next time.
    *Note: we also have a $25 Lodge cleaning chain. If you scour the surface with steel wool etc you’ll lose all that wonderful seasoning that’s built up.

    • @charlescourtney4412
      @charlescourtney4412 2 месяца назад

      With stuck on food, I add a half inch of water to the skillet, bring it to a boil, then let it cool enough to handle. Then anything that was stuck will scrape off very easily with minimal scrubbing or damage to the seasoning.

  • @laurahannon1652
    @laurahannon1652 2 месяца назад +3

    Hit flea markets, thrift stores and estate auctions. Find Griswold or Wagner Ware. Restore as needed. Smooth as silk. Good for generations!

  • @JackieDannenberg
    @JackieDannenberg 2 месяца назад +2

    I have a set of Calphalon cookware I bought in 1990 before they came out with the enameled version. I still have it. It has aged very well. I learned just a couple of years ago what I was doing wrong with it. I should have preheated it on my cooktop for at least three minutes before frying eggs and the like. Now that I know that, cleaning is MUCH easier ! I think it compares to the Artisan Cook pan in all honesty. Plus it doesn’t weigh near what the cast iron pans do either. I find that very nice now that I’m in my 60’s. Course Calphalon doesn’t make the non-enameled version anymore. Also with the Calphalon, it doesn’t matter how long you soak them or if you make highly acidic food in them. They also drip dry after washing. Gee, maybe Calphalon better take another look at making these again !

    • @harvey66616
      @harvey66616 Месяц назад +1

      Sadly, the original plain anodized aluminum cookware Calphalon used to make was discontinued some time ago. :(
      I love my anodized pans, but I will admit, I love my cast iron more. They cost less, are readily available, hold heat better, are compatible with induction, don't wear out (the Calphalon pans are very durable, but they still don't do well with metal utensils, and in spite of my best efforts, wind up with dings and scratches...they remain usable for now, which given that they are nearly 30 years old is pretty good, but they are definitely showing their age), and are much more non-stick than the anodized pans (to be fair, as long as I use enough oil/fat the anodized pans release pretty well too, but then that's true of just about any cooking surface).
      Oh, and as I discovered the hard way, the anodized pans should never be used with any alkaline substances (e.g. don't boil your bagels in one). Acidic foods will take away the seasoning in a cast iron pan if left long enough, but alkaline foods takes away the anodizing, and unlike the seasoning, there's no practical way to put it back. :(
      Honestly, I'm kind of glad Calphalon discontinued the plain anodized pans, because if they hadn't I probably would've just kept buying those, but instead I started doing more cooking with my cast iron (which I already had but mostly ignore) and discovered how much I love it.

  • @somebodypeculiar
    @somebodypeculiar 26 дней назад

    I may have only worked as a machinist as a summer job during college, but we machined cast iron with milling machines. And cast iron is still used for engine blocks, which involves extensive machining and honing. I find it really hard to believe that the had polish involved more than a hand operating a machine.
    My mom's two cast iron Grisold pans probably dated back to the 1940's or earlier. They were smooth inside. I was disappointment when I did not find new pans that way when I bought mine in the 1970's.

  • @JeffreyHyun
    @JeffreyHyun 2 месяца назад +4

    You can use dish detergent on any of them. The reason they say not to use soap is because in the old days, lye was a common ingredient in soap and lye removes seasoning. Any properly seasoned cast iron will hold up fine using dish detergent and modern soaps.

  • @wynorawishum5860
    @wynorawishum5860 2 месяца назад

    Great video, with excellent advice. I would love an in-depth video on seasoning from scratch. Thanks

  • @katleiayorkie8311
    @katleiayorkie8311 2 месяца назад +2

    Traditional always. I will be handing mine down through the family. You use oil, but I was raised with lard. My parents cast irons are on their second generation using lard.

  • @afolsom685
    @afolsom685 2 месяца назад +1

    Definitely. Would appreciate Lisa's cast iron tips.

  • @gardenhappy4
    @gardenhappy4 2 месяца назад +3

    Hi Val, Great job!

  • @doloresarispe9247
    @doloresarispe9247 2 месяца назад +3

    Thank you both for great information 😊❤

  • @mosiah9205
    @mosiah9205 2 месяца назад

    Holy crap, that shot at around 13:45 is crazy! It looks like that skillet could repel anything.

  • @nancybarnett2832
    @nancybarnett2832 2 месяца назад +3

    I love all my Lodge skillets!

  • @mikefisc9989
    @mikefisc9989 2 месяца назад

    A good 10.5" cast iron pan by Lodge or similar is a great place to start for someone who is setting up their first kitchen. It is affordable, indestructible and you will still use it 40 years later.

  • @davidhalldurham
    @davidhalldurham 2 месяца назад

    Excellent video!!!! Thank you so much. I have a nice collection of Lodge cast iron pans. They've been with me for years.

  • @wgoconnor33
    @wgoconnor33 2 месяца назад +8

    Just in time I have 4 vintage cast iron skillets I need to season

  • @VeretenoVids
    @VeretenoVids 2 месяца назад

    We have my husband's father's 12" cast iron skillet of uncertain parentage. It's a beast, but it makes fantastic cornbread and frittatas (among other things).

  • @mantoniobanderas2376
    @mantoniobanderas2376 2 месяца назад

    I inherited a 100 year-old Lodge set that has the ridges on the bottom for stovetops from that era. Slicker than oil on a gold tooth.

  • @celinasvahins7502
    @celinasvahins7502 2 месяца назад +3

    Lodge fills my kitchen cabinets. Two of them were my grandmother's.

  • @agwgwegsdg
    @agwgwegsdg 2 месяца назад +6

    Flax seed oil as seasoning oil is not a good pick. It does polymerize easily, but it isn't durable. It's almost disinformation at this point.

    • @bobcoats2708
      @bobcoats2708 2 месяца назад +2

      Yeah, this is pretty well documented. Very surprised by that recommendation.

  • @boyantrifonov
    @boyantrifonov 2 месяца назад +1

    I have 10+ Le Creuset pieces from Dutch Ovens to Skillets.
    I have never paid full retail price.
    All my pieces are brand new.
    There are deals if you look for them.
    30% OFF is a good deal.
    40% OFF is a great deal but rare.

    • @hannahcrowley2030
      @hannahcrowley2030 2 месяца назад

      Yes! Marshalls, TJMaxx, and Homegoods tend to have them too

  • @curtismatsune3147
    @curtismatsune3147 2 месяца назад +4

    Both have their applications that are unique and necessary while still having wide overlap that makes for great versatility.

  • @dragon61rider
    @dragon61rider 2 месяца назад +1

    Yes! I'd like to see Lisa showing how to reason cast iron in the oven.

  • @RAM-eb2te
    @RAM-eb2te 2 месяца назад +4

    Traditional. I've been using it for 60 years. 😊

  • @eldibs
    @eldibs 2 месяца назад

    Cast iron is exactly why I didn't buy a glass-top stove, all of my skillets are basic cast iron. I use them because I can go straight from the stovetop into the oven without switching pans, because I can use them with any of the heat sources I have, and because they're cheaper than quality carbon steel pans. I don't worry overly much about the seasoning though, because I can always re-season them. I'm gonna have to get some flaxseed oil though, that's a great piece of info!

    • @williamlaird2136
      @williamlaird2136 2 месяца назад +2

      I have tried flaxseed oil many times based on other "experts" advice. Major failure every time. Grapeseed is what I use mostly but I have been seasoning my 16" Lodge dutch ovens for over fifty years with peanut oil.

  • @SaiChooMusic
    @SaiChooMusic 2 месяца назад +2

    Not sure about the flax oil recommendation, it's known to flake off

  • @michaelbaumgardner2530
    @michaelbaumgardner2530 2 месяца назад

    I've been using cast iron for 50 years and have a collection of older Wagner's and when it comes to cleaning Kent Rollins has the best method,hands down I've ever used.

  • @bigthing75
    @bigthing75 2 месяца назад +15

    Lodge for the win. Use it, that rough texture goes away. Cast iron the only pans, baking dishes, and pots I use. I had a nice old Griswold until someone decided they needed it more than me and stole it out of the back of my truck.

  • @christinegraham2579
    @christinegraham2579 2 месяца назад +1

    My late mother hated cooking and baking with a passion. Once my parents got a dishwasher, she put her cast iron skillet into it regularly! 😱 Then she’d always get very angry when everything stuck to it. 🤦‍♀️
    Thankfully, I know better than to do something so foolish.

  • @paulj.l.9696
    @paulj.l.9696 2 месяца назад

    I love both. Cast iron for searing and sautéing. Enamel for acidic sauces and soups. I love my Field skillet the most! I use it a lot more than my Lodges. It cost a lot more but the smooth surface is great.

  • @jerzcnate
    @jerzcnate 2 месяца назад +4

    Cast Iron for the win for sure as I own 3 Lodge. 1 Lodge stir fry pan .....

  • @WOOF95
    @WOOF95 2 месяца назад +1

    Great video for us amateurs cooks.

  • @melmel-mx6sn
    @melmel-mx6sn Месяц назад

    Best videos explaining iron skillet! Thank you

  • @ZepG
    @ZepG 2 месяца назад

    I have two Le Creuset dutch ovens and two cast iron skillets. I love them all but the enameled cast iron is harder to clean and is not nonstick. I just made sous vide NY strip steaks a few weeks ago and pan seared them on my 17" Lodge cast iron skillet on blazing high heat. After cooking the steaks I just use hot water to deglaze the skillet then scrape it with a flat wooden spoon and wipe it out with a cotton cloth soaked in oil.

  • @johnbradwell3834
    @johnbradwell3834 2 месяца назад +1

    I am a mechanical engineering student and have taken courses that detail the manufacturing process of casting, and the material properties of cast iron. I am no expert, but I can tell you for a fact that “you get what you pay for” does not quite apply to raw cast iron pans. They are all mostly iron with a small amount of carbon and perform the same. You are paying for the artisanal labor, not for the performance of the pan or its durability. Clearly, the enameled pans have their own thing going on which affect the price. The main thing that matters is that the big hunk of iron has a lot of mass to hold onto the heat energy put into it. Thinner walls would make the pan lighter, but whether or not that’s worth the cash difference is only up to the buyer.
    If you want to save some cash and have a smooth surface to your cheapo cast iron pan, you can use an angle grinder and or some sand paper.
    Taking off my formally educated hat and putting on my speculating layman hat, I think probably the bigger issue in pan “quality” is going to be heavy metal contamination. Does the manufacturer use iron contaminated with lead, for example?
    I would be interested to see ATK (or a more scientifically rigorous independent testing organization) test cookware for lead content and perhaps report on some of the health implications. I’m also not trying to fear monger. It’s possible that contaminated iron is rare or that seasoning on cast iron pans prevents any potential contamination from doing you damage. I don’t know.

    • @harvey66616
      @harvey66616 Месяц назад

      _' “you get what you pay for” does not quite apply to raw cast iron pans ... You are paying for the artisanal labor '_ -- which you don't get unless you pay more. Seems to me, you _do_ get what you pay for. Just have to keep in mind what that actually is, and think about whether you care.
      But I don't see any valid rebuttal to their statement here.

  • @lorrieshigley3625
    @lorrieshigley3625 2 месяца назад

    Excellent job ladies ❗👏
    I really needed this information!!

  • @Macknzie
    @Macknzie 2 месяца назад

    I ground and polished my Lodge pan insides. Works fantastic, and they are very non-stick at this point. 5 stars, recommend.

    • @bobcoats2708
      @bobcoats2708 2 месяца назад +1

      I’d be interested in doing that. What did you use to grind and polish?

    • @Macknzie
      @Macknzie 2 месяца назад

      @@bobcoats2708 I used an angle grinder. I don't remember the exact disk; it was probably about 10 years ago. My tips: Do it outside, and air filtering and close-fitting eye protection is absolutely non-negotiable. You don't want to inhale any amount of iron filings or get it in your eyes. If you can clamp the skillet to something, that's ideal, bet regardless, it'll take a while even with a good grinding disk. I just used a finer disk for the final polish.

    • @gfghjfgfghfj
      @gfghjfgfghfj 2 месяца назад

      ​​@@bobcoats2708I started with a drill-mounted paint stripper (looks like a pumice stone) from Home Depot, then a drill-mounted wire brush stripper, then a palm sander through successively finer grits, until I could see a blurry reflection, then season with multiple THIN coats of oil (at first I made the mistake of impatiently slopping flax oil on it, only to obtain a thick plastic coating that sticks, smells, and flakes - you don't want that - take the time to do thin coats of cooking oil). Flax oil = linseed oil (although it lacks the chemicals of boiled linseed oil from the paint store).
      And, yes, it's an all day project.

    • @bobcoats2708
      @bobcoats2708 2 месяца назад

      @@Macknzie Thank you!

    • @bobcoats2708
      @bobcoats2708 2 месяца назад +1

      @@gfghjfgfghfj Wow, that’s a ton of work, but I know you must be pleased with the results. Thank you 😊

  • @AmericaFirstNow
    @AmericaFirstNow 2 месяца назад +16

    A palm sander with the right grit paper will smooth out the rough surface.

    • @workingguy-OU812
      @workingguy-OU812 2 месяца назад +5

      An angle-grinder with a flap-disc can as well, as would an orbital sander.

    • @dennisbishop3842
      @dennisbishop3842 2 месяца назад

      It might be worth trying.

    • @jimnyenhuis560
      @jimnyenhuis560 2 месяца назад +1

      Not really. You need something more aggressive, or be prepared to be at it all day.

    • @AmericaFirstNow
      @AmericaFirstNow 2 месяца назад +1

      @jimnyenhuis560 perhaps you missed the part about the right, or I should have said correct grit paper. Start with a little coarse, then go finer. It doesn't take that long. I did it to a newer pan that was gifted to me.

    • @jimnyenhuis560
      @jimnyenhuis560 2 месяца назад

      @@AmericaFirstNow Well, we had different experiences then. I've bought some antique pans since then, and there's a large difference between them and what I was able to achieve (with reasonably coarse grit) on a Lodge.

  • @capchemist
    @capchemist 2 месяца назад +3

    MORE VAL

  • @franks4973
    @franks4973 Месяц назад

    Nice review ladies. I would have liked to see the fried egg test on each pan after 1 seasoning. Thx

  • @jennteal5265
    @jennteal5265 2 месяца назад +2

    The whole reason I _haven't_ purchased a cast iron skillet is because of the weight. I have psoriatic arthritis and handling pans that are 8 lbs is just way too much for my hand and wrist joints. I'm now at least interested in the enamel option tho because if it's less heavy, I might be able to handle it.

    • @hannahcrowley2030
      @hannahcrowley2030 2 месяца назад

      They're less heavy, but not light. I just checked and the 12-inch enamel from Le Creuset is 6.75 lbs and the Lodge is 8.75 lbs, so two pounds is nothing to sneeze but but still, not light. For lightweight skillets I usually recommend stainless steel or ceramic nonstick. We tested lightweight Dutch ovens because a cast iron Dutch oven is SO heavy! Winner was stainless steel. We're always looking for testings that would help people, so let us know if there are any other pieces of equipment that give you trouble and we will add it to the list.

    • @Wishuponapancake
      @Wishuponapancake Месяц назад

      just get carbon steel, it's like cast iron but way lighter, and cheaper, can be easier to season as well

    • @Wishuponapancake
      @Wishuponapancake Месяц назад

      @@hannahcrowley2030 why not carbon steel??

  • @barcham
    @barcham 2 месяца назад

    When it comes to seasoning, if you have a carbon steel wok, just season both pans the same way. If you are accustomed to maintaining one of them, keeping the other in good condition will come naturally to you. And do not forget to season both the inside and outside of both.

  • @MinimalistCarnivore
    @MinimalistCarnivore 2 месяца назад

    Carbon steel :) I like the DeBuyer
    Personal choice of course handles are better and quicker reaction etc...

  • @xnonsuchx
    @xnonsuchx 2 месяца назад

    Vitreous means LIKE glass, not necessarily “derived from” glass.
    Short soaks in vinegar also helps remove rust.

  • @JacksonWalter735
    @JacksonWalter735 Месяц назад

    For straight up skillets I prefer raw cast iron skillets alongside a stainless steel pan. For dutch ovens I prefer an enameled dutch oven

  • @DrDocDRM
    @DrDocDRM 2 месяца назад +17

    NOT flax oil!
    Creates layers that can easily flake. Can impart odors to food. Worse on carbons steel pans than on cast iron, but for the most folks it’s easier to use any fully refined oil versions of sunflower, canola, regular vegetable oil, etc. (but I’d never actually cook with them). The BEST choices are usually avocado and grapeseed. But they MUST be refined.
    NEVER USE: olive oil, butter, coconut oil. Fine to cook with those, but not for actual seasoning.

    • @karenroot450
      @karenroot450 2 месяца назад

      Hey thanks for the seasoning advice. I’ll do so from now on🤗

    • @drthmik
      @drthmik 2 месяца назад +2

      I have found this to be true, My cast steel pan always was flaking back when I was using flax. Canola has the second most amount of the specific oil compound that polymerizes, and you can get a gallon of it for the same price as a tiny bottle of Flax
      the only other use for Canola oil? Fire starters made out of waxed cardboard cartons and newspaper

  • @digitalpunkdiva2894
    @digitalpunkdiva2894 2 месяца назад

    I have both cast iron and enameled cast iron. I love my pans equally. Enamel I use for dishes that are acidic. I'm team Staub.

  • @tomsparks6099
    @tomsparks6099 2 месяца назад

    I lucked out on a Martha Stewart close out enamel cast iron that never fails and is a snap to clean. I have an ancient one as well that I use nostalgically and I also have a enamel grill pan which needless to say is a bear to clean. In addition as a tip, never submerge while hot in water, even hot water -- cast iron can and does warp.

  • @petercofrancesco9812
    @petercofrancesco9812 2 месяца назад

    I have a Lodge and always wanted an artisanal. Maybe one day. I've hear you can sand the Lodge smooth though I'm not sure if it makes it more non stick, some say the texture prevents the seasoning from flaking. It is true you don't want to cook tomato based sauces, it really take off the seasoning.

  • @gcvrsa
    @gcvrsa Месяц назад

    Short answer: It depends on what you are trying to do. Both seasoned and enamelled cast iron have their uses.

  • @nancyvanbeest7989
    @nancyvanbeest7989 2 месяца назад

    I use my grandmas cast iron . I love ir . Great tips here . Thanks

  • @beckygarcia3755
    @beckygarcia3755 2 месяца назад

    I love love my Le Creuset… says never heat up fast, I start low and move up the heat.